Transcript for KIOTR Chat 12/30/06

Topic: Astonishing X-Men #19

 

 

 

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Amokitty

Hi everyone, time for another chat, and I'm stoked. Loved the latest Astonishing issue and I can't wait to discuss it.

 

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xakko

hellooooooooooooooo shari!

 

Amokitty

Evening, Xak! :)

 

xakko

are you feeling better?

 

Amokitty

Well..... today hasn't been so great. I'm tired of this to the point of tears. Probably heading back to the doc on Tues. Darn it.

 

xakko

gah... i'm so sorry... sick during the holidays... *hugs*

 

Amokitty

Yah. Doesn't that just suck?

 

Amokitty

*hugs Xakko back*

 

xakko

has Mark avoided it?

 

Amokitty

I was hoping we might discuss a little Ultimate X-Men tonight too. Whaddaya think?

 

Amokitty

Yeah, he's doing a LOT better. Not sure what my deal is....

 

xakko

dunno much about it, but sure

 

xakko

Millar ensured that there would never be Ultimate Kiotr

 

Amokitty

I haven't read an entire issue in ages, but I've read enough bits and pieces that I'm hoping to talk about it.

 

Amokitty

That's one of my main beefs with the book. If NOTHING else those two are meant to be very close friends, and that's not being shown in Ultimate.

 

xakko

my only real experience with the Ultimate crew was when they show up in Ultimate Spidey

 

Amokitty

Not happy with Bendis either, actually. His portrayal of Kitty lately leaves a lot to be desired.

 

xakko

really? i just figured it was a different character

 

Amokitty

She's become clingy, whiny, and a bit desperate when it comes to Spidey.

 

xakko

oh, i haven't read anything since the Deadpool trade.

 

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xakko

hi Rose!

 

Amokitty

Hello, Rose!!!!! :D

 

MadR

Hiya

 

xakko

(deb's trying to distract me with Animaniacs episodes...)

 

Amokitty

We're just talking about problems with Ultimate X-Men....

 

xakko

how old is Ultimate Kitty supposed to be?

 

Amokitty

Naughty Deb! Maybe she can stop by later!

 

Amokitty

I think 15.

 

MadR

I think Ulti-Kitty is about sixteen

 

xakko

that makes sense... around Peter's age (Spidey)

 

Amokitty

Either age, to me she's been acting weird in the hands of Bendis.

 

Amokitty

Her behavior is pissing Peter off, and is going to drive him back to MJ. Then Kitty's heart gets broken again!!

 

xakko

well, let's be honest... Peter and MJ... it's tough to keep them apart

 

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xakko

Mr Harper!

 

Amokitty

I know..... but making Kitty into a shrill to do it is bogus!

 

MadR

TPTB probably never took Kitty & Spidey seriously anyway

 

J_Harper

Heythere.

 

Amokitty

Jeremy!!! Hi!

 

MadR

Hiya Jermey

 

J_Harper

Hi everyone.

 

Amokitty

Didja get my e-mail?

 

xakko

we're actually discussing Ultimate X-men...

 

J_Harper

Only just. Didn't have time to look at the issue, but thank you.

 

J_Harper

did Ultimate Kitty break up with Ultimate Spidey?

 

Amokitty

The issue was really good, I thought.

 

Amokitty

They haven't broken up yet, but it looks like it's heading in that direction.

 

J_Harper

I don't know if Lia will be on tonight. I didn't talk to her today. :/ I think she's busy with something, but I did text her a reminder.

 

J_Harper

Are they making Kitty a harpy?

 

xakko

i hope she can make it...

 

Amokitty

We'll miss Lia if she can't make it, but RL waits for no man! Or woman..... :)

 

J_Harper

Very true.

 

xakko

gah, RL

 

Amokitty

Yeah, I think Bendis is making Kitty a little too desperate when it comes to Ultimate Peter and he's starting to back off now.

 

J_Harper

Oh well... What can you do?

 

MadR

I hope we don't end up with the Kitty/Bobby/Rogue triangle again

 

xakko

that is too bad... it was a cute relationship.

 

xakko

since Millar's a jerk.

 

J_Harper

What's the point of having a new continuity if you just follow the patterns of the old one? :/

 

Amokitty

I wish Ultimate Kitty could be happy. She doesn't even have a simple friendship w/Colossus, and that bugs me.

 

J_Harper

Is anyone in the Ultimate Universe happy?

 

MadR

I've been reading Stan Lee's Riftworld (novel, not comic) Anyone ever hear of it?

 

xakko

no... what's the story?

 

Amokitty

Stan wrote a novel, recently??

 

J_Harper

Vaguely. Is it about super-hero types coming through from another dimension?

 

MadR

Behind the scenes at a comic publisher when real superheroes show up

 

J_Harper

Ah, I've heard about them, but never read 'em. I don't usually touch media tie-ins.

 

Amokitty

Sounds similar to the comic insert that was in the X-3 DVD.

 

MadR

Ghost-written, mid-nineties. I think it would be funnier if I knew more about the Marvel PTB...because they're definitely parodying real artists and writers.

 

xakko

hrmmm... that was in one of the Astro City trades... or She Hulk

 

Amokitty

Heh. I'd like to know about how Stan REALLY feels about Joey Q, Shooter, and CC.

 

J_Harper

I'm reading Popeye: I Yam What I Yam. Gary Groth may be a liar and a snob, but I must admit, his company puts out books I'm interested in.

 

Amokitty

I'm reading a book my Mom got me for Christmas. Queer Eye for the Straight Guy help book on beauty. I've been laughing my ass off.

 

J_Harper

Heh heh. Sounds amusing.

 

Amokitty

It's an autographed copy. Wondering if she's trying to tell me something??? LOL.

 

MadR

Is it the 'of course every woman can spend five and a half hours on grooming' kind of funny?

 

Amokitty

YES. Exactly! How onearth did you know? Hee.

 

Amokitty

Predictable aren't they? I'm sure those guys have stylists for the nails and eyelashes!

 

J_Harper

So what did you all think of Astonishing? I haven't gotten a chance to see it yet, but I don't mind being spoiled. Lia read it.

 

xakko

i liked it a lot.

 

Amokitty

Liked it!

 

J_Harper

She's cautiously hopeful.

 

xakko

Joss had Kitty and Peter talk...

 

xakko

and Peter told a joke!

 

Amokitty

But their discussion wasn't nearly long enough.... I was hoping maybe Peter would talk to Kitty about his fears about destroying Breakworld.

 

MadR

It wasn't bad. I like the twist they seem to be setting up.

 

MadR

I would have liked to see more of a conversation between Peter and Kitty.

 

J_Harper

I'll have to try to get to the shop next wee. I'm just short on cash right now.

 

J_Harper

I know it seemed to have inspired you, Rose. Nice ficlet, by the bye. I really need to comment more. I just don't think I'm that good with useful C&C.

 

xakko

i wanted Peter to reply to her comment that Zsaji was somehow "better"...

 

Amokitty

I want Joss to tell us what Peter is thinking! He's just found out that he's going to kill a planet, and he cracks a joke. He's got to be stunned and fearful. I wish Joss would write a Peter monologue.

 

MadR

Thanks, Jeremy.

 

Amokitty

That "better" comment really pulled at my heartstrings. Did NOT expect Joss to bring up Zsaji!

 

Amokitty

I disagree Jeremy. You're a writer after all.:)

 

J_Harper

That surprises me too. I swore Marvel wanted to pretty much sweep Zsaji under the rug. I can't remember her being mentioned since that Arcade issue way back in the day.

 

MadR

If he brought up Zsaji, I was hoping they'd really deal with that whole mess. And that the Break-World would to turn out to be the Beyonder's patchwork planet.

 

xakko

by name, i can't think of a time after that, no. i thought 197 was meant to start the healing process on that

 

Amokitty

Oooooh cool theory, Rose. Bothers me that Joss brings Zsaji up, but K & P don't discuss her. Why bring her up at all then?

 

J_Harper

Heck, she isn't even mentioned in any of Peter's offical write-ups, I think. I know of at least one Marvel write-up that doesn't even mention Peter breaking up with Kitty.

 

xakko

she was mentioned in the magazine that comes with the lead miniature.

 

J_Harper

? Never heard of that.

 

xakko

actually, that has conflicting information about Peter and his relationships in there.

 

J_Harper

What mini?

 

MadR

What I'm afraid of is that Joss likes his heroines bitter. And it was a throwaway line to support backing them off after one night.

 

Amokitty

For someone who was a lame plot device 22 years ago, and is DEAD, that broad sure is getting a lot of mileage!

 

J_Harper

Snort.

 

xakko

* drops an anvil on Jim Shooter, fthoi

 

MadR

brb

 

Amokitty

Thank you, Xak!

 

J_Harper

I say this a lot, but all we can do is wait and see.

 

J_Harper

Whedon's got five more issues and an annual.

 

Amokitty

Because Peter is responsible for destroying Breakworld, will Joss kill him for the same reasons that Dark Phoenix had to die?

 

MadR

I think there's a plot-twist in the 'destroying Breakworld' idea

 

xakko

i'm hoping you're wrong about that

 

J_Harper

Depends on how it's destroyed, I think. Phoenix destroyed that world for a selfish reason. Who knows what scenario will evolve around Peter.

 

xakko

the missle is a likely explanation. or rather, a likely decoyt

 

Amokitty

Oh god, I want to be wrong too! Joss is twisting the scews something fierce!

 

Amokitty

screws I meant. Typing's off per my usual....

 

Amokitty

I'm definitely wondering if the missile is a red herring.

 

MadR

What was that line about saving us from ourselves? I think Peter's going to destroy the warrior caste's way of life.

 

xakko

that was one of my thoughts...

 

xakko

i'm REALLY hoping Cassie isn't in his head

 

Amokitty

So will the X-Men aid the rebels against the Open Hand?

 

MadR

I'm just worried about Blindfold and one of them not coming back....I'm thinking that maybe Peter will become the new powerlord and stay there to work out peace...giving Kitty the time she asked for?

 

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Amokitty

Oh God... that makes sense, Rose.

 

MadR

Hiya Deb

 

Amokitty

Hello Deb! So nice to 'see' you! :D

 

deb

hi. xakko when to get some dinner

 

J_Harper

Hey there.

 

Amokitty

Have you read the latest Astonishing, Deb?

 

deb

yes!

 

J_Harper

I see Kitty is still in a pisser mood.

 

Amokitty

And....? Didja like it? 'Cause I loved it.

 

deb

yes. i hate having to wait for the next book

 

Amokitty

So much of the issue had ideas that you already wrote about in Imperishable, Jeremy. I think you'll be amused.

 

xakko

i think Joss is secretly reading your fanfics

 

J_Harper

Heh. Doubt that. :)

 

Amokitty

February is a LONG time. I hate it too! And yet I'm also fearful so... two edged sword there.

 

xakko

i don't know if we'll have to worry until issue #24...

 

MadR

Yep, I still don't trust Joss as far as I could throw him.

 

MadR

As long as neither Kitty or Piotr ends up dead, I'll be happy.

 

Amokitty

Didn't the solicits mention something BIG happening in #22?

 

Amokitty

I'll definitely be unhappy if your theory is right Rose. Peter will be shoved off to limbo.

 

deb

if either of them end up dead i'll probably quit reading comics. ::mad

 

Amokitty

Joss still doesn't have a handle on Peter I think, but this issue was an improvement I thought.

 

MadR

brb

 

deb

i loved his attempt at a joke

 

J_Harper

Poor Peter... Ah well...

 

Amokitty

I'm with you, Deb. I'm tired of either Kitty or Peter in limbo for a few years. Without them it's not fun to read the books.

 

xakko

ditto... i may stay in to read some Dan Slott books...

 

Amokitty

Some people have been saying that Whedon wrote the joke with Peter using a thick unnecessary accent. I didn't notice this. Any of you?

 

xakko

i did... he has him speaking broken English, nearly all the time

 

xakko

i explain it away in my mind that while he was with Ord, he reverted back to thinking in Russian.

 

deb

oh yeah, i do like dan slott's stuff. maybe i wouldn't quit altogether

 

Amokitty

The way I read the joke, it could've been uttered by anybody, not a "foreigner". But that's me. I probably have it all wrong.

 

J_Harper

I haven't really noticed a broken accent. Peter is just a bit... concise...

 

MadR

I haven't really noticed it.

 

J_Harper

I have no idea how all this is going to pan out.

 

Amokitty

I'm so troubled over who is going to die, it's hindering my enjoyment of the book a bit.

 

MadR

Same here, the first think I think after every issue is 'not yet'.

 

deb

from what i've read peter doesn't seem to be a big talker usually

 

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xakko

it wasn't so much his joke, but his explanation... "This is why I don't make so many jokes. I never know when is good"

 

MadR

Peter's pretty laconic. And his dialogue has always been kind of stilted, formalized, English Is A Second Language style. At least it isn't the bad fanfic v's and w's.

 

Amokitty

You're right, Deb. But Peter has also been shown on occasion to be extraordinarily eloquent. Logan said to Peter once on something he had said that, "Shakespeare couldn't have said it better."

 

MadR

Hey Kirayoshi

 

J_Harper

Hey K.

 

Amokitty

Kirayoshi! Hiya!!!

 

Kirayoshi

So, what's plan C?

 

xakko

hey there, Kirayoshi!

 

J_Harper

Fight through it and save the day. What else?

 

Amokitty

LOL.

 

Kirayoshi

Oh, that trick again?

 

Kirayoshi

Hey, if it works...

 

J_Harper

It does.

 

Amokitty

How was Christmas, K?

 

Kirayoshi

So, are we in anguish over AXM #19 or celebrating?

 

Kirayoshi

Not bad at all.

 

deb

i'm taking a quick pb&j and hot chocolate break. i didn't eat dinner and it's after 11 now.

 

xakko

i liked it, but there's trepidation

 

Amokitty

Don't starve, Deb! It was awfully nice of you to come!! :)

 

J_Harper

I really don't know what to think.

 

Kirayoshi

Anyone wanna bet that Cassandra managed to possess Hisako?

 

MadR

"I think this line's mostly filler!" issue.

 

Kirayoshi

Plus we now have some background on Breakworld.

 

MadR

It set up the next story arc, but not a lot actually happened.

 

Amokitty

I loved the ish, and yet I'm exasperated by it.

 

Kirayoshi

I'm getting the feeling that maybe a good 'breaking' is just what Breakworld needs.

 

J_Harper

It seems to be a pretty vile place.

 

Kirayoshi

I was half-convinced that Kitty was going to announce that once this mess is resolved she was going to shake the dust of Salem off of her shoes and sever all contact with the X-Men.

 

Amokitty

Yep. That society is BROKEN. Peter is gonna fix it. One way or another...

 

Kirayoshi

Peter included.

 

MadR

Yep, it's the upper class that hired the augars and they see Peter destroying their way of life....the stupid war...

 

Kirayoshi

So I'll take "I just need some time" as a positive thing.

 

MadR

It was kind of the cookie dough speech, wasn't it?

 

Amokitty

At least Kitty didn't tell him to go to hell!

 

J_Harper

Peter really needs to respond to that, try to assuge her fears. He needs to remain proactive with her.

 

Kirayoshi

I got the idea that the rebels were victims of some genetic cleansing thing.

 

Amokitty

Love that, Rose. Does Kitty need to finish baking?

 

Kirayoshi

Which would make this resonate more wite X-Men.

 

J_Harper

That's possible. It seems to be Darwinism run amuck.

 

Kirayoshi

My only real problem was that Kitty still blamed Emma for the mindf*** when it was clearly Cassandra's doing.

 

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xakko

hi mel!

 

Kirayoshi

Mel!

 

Amokitty

Then again, Joss is writing Kitty in a more adult, and quite ruthless manner I think. She's getting rather fond of that gun. I don't see how ANYONE can accuse Kitty of looking immature now.

 

MadR

Joss does tend to reuse bits of old plots.

 

Kirayoshi

NORM!

 

Amokitty

Hey there!

 

Kirayoshi

Norman...

 

melodyrider

Hello everyone!

 

MadR

Hi Mel

 

J_Harper

Hallo.

 

xakko

well, she calls it "emma's little puppet show", and it was Emma's brain that did it to her

 

Kirayoshi

I thought it was more Cassandra's show.

 

xakko

well, it was a representation of Cassie in Emma's mind

 

J_Harper

Every time you say Cassie I think Stature from YA.

 

Kirayoshi

And I'm gonna call it, Hisako is gonna bite it before the end of the arc.

 

Kirayoshi

Assuming she's not dead already!

 

melodyrider

It might explain why she doesn't appear in any of the other titles

 

xakko

sorry, Jeremy... i'd call her "Nova", but that would get her confused with Richard Rider

 

MadR

Maybe it was that viciously cruel twist to it that marks it as Emma's doing in Kitty's mind? For all she knows Cassandra just ordered her to make Kitty open the box?

 

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Amokitty

Joss has stated that he's trying to get every hero in the MU for the finale. Can't help but wonder as to why?

 

xakko

it was said that Hisako would lead the X-Men in Runaways

 

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Kirayoshi

And Cassandra could be the current model Batgirl.

 

Amokitty

Hello Tomaka!

 

xakko

g'bye tomaka?

 

MadR

Who was that masked stranger?

 

Kirayoshi

I was worried that C. Nova had possessed Hisako(Illyria-style).

 

Amokitty

I think he/she closed the Java page...

 

xakko

that's the general thought, K... if not, C-Nova is in Piotr

 

Amokitty

Kirayoshi, I really think you're right on this. And from Hisako she could jump into anybody. Even Peter.

 

melodyrider

It'll be interesting to see how that pans out. Wonder how long it will be before she starts acting strangely

 

MadR

In fact, doesn't Scott say Emma did it that way to try and get Kitty to kill her?

 

xakko

yeah, he did

 

Kirayoshi

I'd say Hisako because Cass pretty much said she was going to possess her when Kitty didn't work out.

 

Amokitty

Hisako's armor comes from her ancestors. I think they'll have a part to play in this also.

 

melodyrider

Oooo, I hadn't considered that Amo. Nice catch!

 

xakko

Hisako is really cool and it would be a shame to lose her. But better her than Kitty or Peter

 

Kirayoshi

Given that was the sole reason that Kitty was brought back into the team, I somehow suspect that she'll be out of the team before Joss is done.

 

MadR

Why three years of simulated hell when 'Oops, I packed up my old costumes in this box with the corded packing tape and I don't have a knife on me' would work as well?

 

Amokitty

Joss is casually tossing so much stuff out there MR, that I have to read and re-read until I'm blue in the face! Heh.

 

Kirayoshi

Because the way the box's molecular structure kept shifting would have made Kitty suspicious.

 

melodyrider

I've been doing the same thing. It's fun how every issue adds a new shade to the events in previous issues!

 

MadR

Kirayoshi: heh, yeah. But y'get what I mean. there's no real reason to put Kitty through hell to get her to open the box....there are other illusion scenarioes.

 

Kirayoshi

That's it! We need to call "Do Over" on Civil War and get Joss to rewrite it!

 

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melodyrider

Hi Lia!

 

MadR

Hiya Lia!

 

xakko

hi Lia!

 

Kirayoshi

Ah Lia!

 

Lia

Hi everyone!

 

Amokitty

Lia! You're here! Woo-hoo!! Hello, how are you?

 

Kirayoshi

and other Dio songs!

 

J_Harper

Hey sweetie. :)

 

Amokitty

Oh, K!! Hee.

 

melodyrider

I know, I still have no idea how they planned to get Kitty to pull their "rescue" before Peter arrived on the scene

 

Lia

I'm good. I hope everyone's been having a good holiday.

 

Kirayoshi

Maybe hook her up with Pete in the dream sequence?

 

Kirayoshi

Anyone get a look at What If: Enemy of the State?

 

Amokitty

I haven't yet, K.

 

MadR

One scan of that with Peter and Kitty in it. Do they actually do anything?

 

melodyrider

I read it. It was nice to see Kitty in a What If where she doesn't die :)

 

Kirayoshi

I think Peter was one of the first casualities.

 

J_Harper

Is that the Vulcan one?

 

Kirayoshi

No, this was Wolverine: Enemy of the State.

 

MadR

I was saying we should have a fanfic challenge to write the story off panel of all the comics that have Peter standing in the background.

 

xakko

no, that's Deadly Genesis

 

melodyrider

The Wolverine agent of Hydra one

 

Kirayoshi

Only in this one Wolverine manages to kill most of the MU.

 

xakko

the big in Thing #8 would be great

 

xakko

bit, sorry

 

Amokitty

The challenge is a worthy one, Rose. I'm so tired of seeing Peter as a wallflower!

 

MadR

It should be pretty easy because the framework of the plot's there....you just have to rewrite 'em from Peter or Kitty's pov.

 

melodyrider

I liked that challenge idea. The Blindfold-Dru-River one sounded fun, too

 

Amokitty

Oh man, that was hilarious!

 

deb

i'm back. i think the breakworld would have been a peaceful happy place if they had pb&j and hot chocolate. it's made me happier ::smile

 

J_Harper

LOL!

 

Kirayoshi

I'm gonna submit that one in the Rumbles forum at CBR

 

Kirayoshi

Deb.

 

MadR

The Thing's Superhero Poker Championship would be perfect. Especially with the stuff Doctor Strange said had happened earlier.

 

Kirayoshi

You may be onto something.

 

Amokitty

Breakworlders have diamonds stuffed into their pillows, so I'm SURE you're onto something there, Deb!! :)

 

MadR

Please, forward the challenge anywhere you think you can find writers.

 

melodyrider

Now I might have to buy those Thing issues. Ach, my wallet...

 

Kirayoshi

It'd make a great "They just Sit and Talk" thread.

 

deb

you can't go wrong with a good poker tourny

 

Amokitty

Should a challenge be posted at the comm???

 

J_Harper

Kitty: Peter, are you as bored as I am?

 

xakko

are we each supposed to take the same issue, or just grab random cameos?

 

J_Harper

Peter: Da.

 

J_Harper

Kitty: Wanta sneak off somewhere and make out.

 

MadR

Random cameos. Write as many as you like, too.

 

J_Harper

(Peter thinks about it for a moment) Peter: Of course.

 

Kirayoshi

A moment?

 

Amokitty

*dies*

 

Kirayoshi

That long?

 

J_Harper

There. My submission to the challenge. :)

 

MadR

We could annouce it at the comm.

 

xakko

granted, Peter kicked Logan's butt at gin... he might be a decent poker player

 

melodyrider

Bravo! :)

 

MadR

Ha! Jeremy!

 

Kirayoshi

Maybe after Ben and Alicia kick the rest of them out of his apartment, they head off to the bedroom, then hear some noises in the closet.

 

xakko

LOL!

 

Kirayoshi

Ben(opening the closet): Geez, get a room you two!

 

Amokitty

If you guys could see me laughing right now....

 

J_Harper

Heh heh heh. :)

 

MadR

ROLFMAO

 

J_Harper

I come up with these smut ideas, and K. improves on them.

 

Kirayoshi

Thanks!

 

Kirayoshi

Hey, you gave me the idea for that Kitty/Peter/Rachel fic.

 

Amokitty

*sigh* I WISH there were wonderful fluff & smut to be found out there. Alas....

 

xakko

don't look at me, i'm already in two unfinished projects...

 

Amokitty

Ha!

 

xakko

but i hear "Deathless" is near a conclusion, right Jeremy?

 

Kirayoshi

I did stumble onto a lengthy X-Evo smut fic at adultfanfiction.net called "Hanging By A Moment" by Slickboy444

 

Amokitty

Read it.

 

J_Harper

Yeah. Just one more chapter. I've been a bit tired, and with Christmas and all I haven't had the chace to write. Hopefully soon.

 

Kirayoshi

It's a 'no-powers' AU, and largely Scott/Jean, but most of the main couples are represented, including some nice Kiotr.

 

Kirayoshi

We await patiently, J.

 

Amokitty

We're TRYING to be patient anyway..... ;)

 

Kirayoshi

Slickboy's latest involves the X-Women becoming Playboy centerfolds.

 

xakko

i pulled out Kit's today, and got one freaking line written. GAH

 

MadR

....I know I'm going to regret this.....I've never written smut, but I suppose I could skim through some old romance novels (with the purple highlighted passages) and see what happens....

 

J_Harper

Well, hopefully when I start it, I'll finish it quickly. It's going to be relatively short.

 

Kirayoshi

Mainly involving Kitty saving Peter, one would assume?

 

xakko

don't write anything you don't feel, Rose... unless you're trying to expand your craft or somesuch

 

MadR

No promises folks.

 

J_Harper

Erotica, along with comedy, is one of the toughest things to write.

 

Amokitty

Personally speaking, it would be nice to see smut with tenderness thrown in. Smut written well is almost non-existent. I would love you forever, Rose. Sorry Mark!

 

J_Harper

Though I've never had much trouble writing erotica. Must be because I'm a dirty little monkey.

 

Kirayoshi

Someone once said that the main difference between erotica and pornography is the lighting.

 

Amokitty

I guess I am too, then. heh. Please don't be hatin'!

 

J_Harper

I think I've heard that, too, K.

 

J_Harper

Here's a quote I wish some of the comic book writers would learn: Happiness, too, is inevitable.

 

Kirayoshi

I liked that line.

 

J_Harper

I wish I could remember who said it.

 

MadR

Seriously. There's enough angst in RL

 

melodyrider

Gloria Leonard was the one who said it

 

Amokitty

amen.

 

J_Harper

Thank you.

 

melodyrider

No problem :)

 

deb

there is no happily ever after if you fight bad guys for 5 decades+

 

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Kirayoshi

I was looking it up in Google

 

xakko

hi DS5K

 

melodyrider

Hi Darkstorm!

 

Amokitty

Darkstorm my dear! Hey there!!! :)

 

darkstorm5000

Hi everybody, Happy Holidays!

 

Lia

hi darkstorm!

 

MadR

I've also been reading DC Showcase: Captain Marvel, kind of the DC version of Essentials. Circa 1970. They're all so silly, and innocent.

 

Kirayoshi

Tell that to Joe Q next time he decides to screw Peter Parker!

 

MadR

Hi Darkstorm!

 

Amokitty

How was Christmas????

 

Kirayoshi

Darkstorm!

 

J_Harper

Hey there. :)

 

darkstorm5000

It was nice, getting...stuff

 

Amokitty

Cool stuff?

 

deb

i like spidey too ::biggrin poor peter parker

 

darkstorm5000

Yeah, Justice League Unlimited DVD set for one

 

Kirayoshi

I'll be cashing in my vacation pay in January, so I'll get a sizable bonus.

 

Kirayoshi

I'm debating buying tickets to see Blue Man Group when they hit the Arena.

 

deb

cha-ching

 

Amokitty

Spidey has the worst luck of anyone. The only good thing that he's got is MJ, and look where Joe Q wants to go with THAT.

 

melodyrider

My wife's been begging me to take her to see them next month

 

deb

BMG is cool!!

 

Kirayoshi

I saw a video of them.

 

deb

i have a dvd of them

 

Amokitty

Wonderful, DS. Is it any good? (for those of us who haven't seen it?)

 

Kirayoshi

They do a killer version of "Baba O'Reilley".

 

xakko

yeah, i saw that on the DVD...

 

deb

they're big rockin' smurfs

 

Amokitty

Mark and I saw them in Vegas a couple of years ago. They REALLY believe in audience participation! Great show.

 

Kirayoshi

Very energetic performance

 

deb

but they don't keep saying smurfy all the time

 

xakko

i am not doing the behind the head leg stretch

 

Kirayoshi

They don't say anything, do they?

 

Amokitty

Sadly they don't say anything, do they? Heh.

 

deb

no

 

darkstorm5000

So far, yeah. I've only gotten through the first couple episodes. Alternating my free time between that and the Dungeons and Dragons set I also picked up. Now that's a Saturday morning flashback.

 

Kirayoshi

Jinx, Amo, you owe me a soda!

 

deb

they'll give you a big blue kiss though

 

MadR

Dungeons and Dragons!

 

xakko

i loved the D&D cartoon

 

melodyrider

We've been watching that on Boomerang off and on

 

Kirayoshi

I wish Spokane cable had Boomerang!

 

Amokitty

Awww. Saturday morning D&D..... makes me fell young again.

 

melodyrider

We had to switch to Dish

 

darkstorm5000

I hadn't thought about it, until they started replaying them on cable again

 

Amokitty

name your poison, K!!!

 

Kirayoshi

I miss classic Looney Tunes on Cartoon Network!

 

Kirayoshi

I'm a Coca-Cola man, myself.

 

Amokitty

Me too!! Been addicted since I was 5.

 

MadR

I wish they'd release the last season of X-Men Evolution on dvd

 

deb

we got the looney toons vol 4 box set from our neices ::smile

 

xakko

yeah, Rose, i want the last season out too, since i didn't get to see it

 

Amokitty

Why is the wait so damn long on Evo dvd's???

 

Kirayoshi

I rented the box sets on Netflix.

 

Kirayoshi

They got some gems on those discs.

 

Kirayoshi

Last batch featured a vintage documentary, some Private Snafu cartoons, plus an Army recruitment film by Chuck Jones featuring a teen-age version of Ralph Phillips.

 

xakko

we have the complete Private Snafu on DVD

 

Kirayoshi

I have the complete Fleischer Studios Superman on DVD.

 

Kirayoshi

Those cartoons rock!

 

xakko

ooooh...

 

darkstorm5000

Now that's some beautiful animation there

 

deb

cool li love the old superman

 

Kirayoshi

Oh, and the new Looney Tunes set features a disc full of Speedy Gonzales!

 

Kirayoshi

How's that for cool?

 

Amokitty

They DO rock! The animation is so beautiful, even now.

 

deb

arrribbbaaa!!!

 

Amokitty

heh, heh.

 

MadR

That is cool! Even the one with Slowpoke Rodregiuz

 

MadR

I know I didn't spell that right.

 

Kirayoshi

I remember Cartoon Network once refused to air Speedy cartoons because they were afraid of offending Hispanic viewers.

 

deb

si ::biggrin

 

deb

they have disclaimers at the beginning of the box sets

 

MadR

Too politically correct, yeah.

 

Amokitty

Speak any Spanish, Deb?

 

deb

7 years in high school and colege

 

Kirayoshi

But then some LA Hispanic civic leaders started a petition to get them to air the cartoons again, saying that Speedy was a positive role model.

 

xakko

i hadn't noticed that, K

 

Kirayoshi

Both intelligent and agile.

 

deb

just don't ask me to spell college

 

Amokitty

Wow. Me too, Deb. That's both funny and neat.

 

Amokitty

ha!

 

Kirayoshi

Of course now they won't play anything that they didn't produce themselves, so ugh!

 

MadR

I don't suppose anyone else is watching Avatar on Nick?

 

deb

they have robot chicken

 

darkstorm5000

That's about it too

 

Kirayoshi

I keep hearing that they're trying to get some live-action films made based on their properties.

 

J_Harper

Folks, I hate to do ths, but I have to head out. I had a busy day last night and didn't get much sleep tonight. I'm fading.

 

melodyrider

I've watched an episode or two, but it hasn't really hooked me

 

Kirayoshi

There was talk about Jackie Chan playing Samurai Jack

 

Kirayoshi

And the Rock as Johnny Bravo.

 

MadR

G'nite Jeremy.

 

Kirayoshi

Later, J.

 

melodyrider

Night J

 

darkstorm5000

Goodnight Jeremy

 

Amokitty

I'm so gald you made it Jeremy! Thank you for coming by!

 

deb

g'nite

 

Kirayoshi

Happy New Year

 

xakko

happy new year, Jeremy

 

Amokitty

Night, and Happy New Year!!!!

 

deb

live action could be a very abd thing

 

J_Harper

Take care all. It was a pleasure as always, Amo. Happy new year to you too. All of you.

 

Amokitty

Take care, Jeremy!

 

J_Harper

Love ya, Lia. Talk to you tomorrow.

 

melodyrider

Have a great New year, J!

 

Lia

I'm afraid I have to go too. I'm pretty tired out today for some reason. But thanks for having me, amokitty! I hope you guys all have a happy New Years.

 

Kirayoshi

Aw, the two lovebirds are heading out together?

 

MadR

See Ya, Lia. Happy New Year

 

Kirayoshi

Cya Lia.

 

deb

happy almost new years

 

melodyrider

Goodnight Lia!

 

xakko

and prospero ano felicidad to you too, Lia!

 

Lia

Bye guys. Take care!

 

J_Harper

G' night!

 

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Amokitty

Lia, thanks a lot for coming! Be careful out there! Happy New Year!

 

Lia left.

 

 

MadR

A new version of Samurai Jack would have the same problem Avatar's currently facing: the late Mako voicing a major character and recasting.

 

Kirayoshi

This is true.

 

xakko

yeah...

 

MadR

Uncle Iroh was one of the best things about Avatar, I'm really hoping they can find someone decent, but they'll never really replace him.

 

xakko

so how's the KP fic coming along, K? i watched "So the Drama" to try to make sense of it...

 

Kirayoshi

Maybe they could get George Takei.

 

deb

if the harry potter movies can handle it they'll come through

 

Kirayoshi

I just finished Fear Factor recently.

 

Kirayoshi

I

 

Kirayoshi

I'm considering doing a more action oriented follow-up.

 

Kirayoshi

A bit of a crossover, actually, with Lupin III.

 

MadR

I heard George Takei's going to be on Heroes next season.

 

melodyrider

That sounds pretty awesome, K. I can just see those two sparring

 

Kirayoshi

Later this season, you mean?

 

Kirayoshi

He'll be playing Hiro's father.

 

darkstorm5000

That would be cool

 

MadR

Yeah, new-episode time season.

 

Kirayoshi

Also slated to appear on Heroes is Christopher Eccleston.

 

Amokitty

The Doctor! or former doctor that is.

 

MadR

I hate these split-season tv schedules. It was so much simpler when I was a kid.

 

Kirayoshi

Yep.

 

Kirayoshi

He's also rumored to star in a new remake of the Prisoner.

 

Amokitty

I know what you mean, Rose. The whole concept of mid-season cliffhanger is new to me.

 

MadR

And trying to keep track of when different shows are returning....argh.

 

Amokitty

Takei mentioned Heroes when I met him a few months back. He couldn't say what, but boy was he laying it on thick! What a tease!

 

xakko

i am finding that i can't get into any shows anymore.

 

darkstorm5000

Heroes are one of the few that I try to keep up with regularly

 

Kirayoshi

Save the cheerleader, save the world...

 

Amokitty

I'm watching TV less and less. Heroes is exceptional though, Xak. You should watch.

 

Kirayoshi

Hey, Hiro mentioned Kitty Pryde, he can't be bad, can he?

 

MadR

Hiro is totally One Of Us.

 

Kirayoshi

One of us, one of us...

 

melodyrider

Big time, definately

 

Kirayoshi

I'm assuming that I'm the only person here who saw Freaks.

 

Amokitty

I totally love Hiro. no joke. He's adorable.

 

xakko

i watched part of one episode, and this woman was talking to the mirror or something...

 

Kirayoshi

Ah, Nikki.

 

Kirayoshi

Sort of like Rose and Thorn.

 

Amokitty

You're not, K!

 

Kirayoshi

And her husband phases.

 

Amokitty

Very surprised by DL's phasing ability.

 

Amokitty

Darn it! did it to me again!!!!!

 

Amokitty

Dammit, K! ;)

 

Kirayoshi

Anyone have Cartoon Network?

 

Kirayoshi

They just started a Hellboy cartoon movie.

 

Kirayoshi

As in right now!

 

melodyrider

Sure do

 

MadR

I have Cartoon Network, pretty much only watch the occasional Futurama rerun

 

xakko

we'd have to stop watching Animaniacs.

 

MadR

Ooh, Storm of Swords! Saw that a few months ago.

 

Kirayoshi

Animation looks surprisingly like Mignola's pencils.

 

MadR

And sometimes they rerun Iron Giant and I always have to watch that.

 

Kirayoshi

Or Spirited Away.

 

Kirayoshi

Anything by Hayao Miyazaki, actually.

 

MadR

Sword of Storms? something like that.....

 

Kirayoshi

Their Fantastic Four cartoon was actually fairly watchable too.

 

melodyrider

Miyazaki is fantastic. I've loved his stuff since Kiki

 

deb

i liked when they had harvey bird man attourney at law

 

deb

wow i can't spell tonight

 

darkstorm5000

Watched Ultimate Avengers 2 on Cartoon Network, 'cause there was now way I was going to buy or rent it after the first one came out on DVD and was on TV a month later

 

Kirayoshi

Check out Lupin III: Castle of Cagliostro if you get the chance.

 

MadR

the fantastic four cartoon was cancelled before I really figured out when it was on

 

Amokitty

Yep, Deb. Late night Cartoon Network was awesome. Loved Space Ghost. Even have the DVD. Don't watch Adult Swim though. Gettin' old I guess.

 

melodyrider

That's exactly what happened to me, too, Rose

 

Kirayoshi

Was unaware it was cancelled.

 

xakko

Ultimate Avengers 2 was pretty lame.

 

deb

robot chicken and futurama are about the only good things on adult swim now

 

xakko

but the extras were funny

 

xakko

I'm eating at Tony Starks House of Ribs!

 

Amokitty

I haven't seen robot chicken in ages!

 

melodyrider

Why does Marvel have such trouble with decent televised animation?

 

darkstorm5000

I know Xak, glad I saw it there

 

Kirayoshi

I only saw a few eps of Robot Chicken.

 

deb

worth a rent on UA 2 just for the blooper reel

 

Kirayoshi

That's Seth Green's show, right?

 

MadR

I liked the art for Ultimate Avengers 1 & 2...but the plots were kinda meh.

 

xakko

yeah, K

 

Amokitty

I need to put this stuff in my Netflix queue.

 

deb

yeah i like robot chicken worth at least a rent

 

Amokitty

Deb is now reading my mind...... :D

 

Kirayoshi

I did like the Electric Mayhem: Behind the Music bit.

 

darkstorm5000

Robot Chicken is one of the few other shows I look forward to

 

Kirayoshi

And the Composite Snowman/Santa.

 

Kirayoshi

::Santa/Snowman starts to power up for a devestating attack:: "...yeah, I got nothing."

 

xakko

did they cancel Harvey Birdman?

 

deb

i think they did

 

melodyrider

yup, this year was its final season

 

xakko

darnit. i loved that show too

 

deb

so there should be another dvd out then i hope

 

melodyrider

I kept missing it. I think the only episode I've ever seen the whole way through was the Apache Chief one

 

deb

that was a good one

 

deb

i also liked the flintstones one

 

Kirayoshi

The Dabba Don?

 

deb

yeah that was scary how they didn't have to look far to make them look like mobsters

 

Kirayoshi

Meanwhile, new eps of Kim Possible start in February!

 

melodyrider

That's going to be fun. I'm looking forward to it!

 

deb

naked mole rat!!!

 

melodyrider

cheese!

 

Kirayoshi

I hear that the Tweebs and Wade will be redesigned slightly.

 

Amokitty

About Astonishing.... I was wondering what all of you thought of Kitty and Peter's conversation, specifically. I loved it because it seemed so adult. THEY seemed adult. How often have we seen them talking like this?? It was like a breath of fresh air. I hope Joss gives us more of this.

 

xakko

so do i

 

Kirayoshi

I was afraid that Kitty was going to tell Peter and the rest of the team to go to hell, so I'm taking it as a positive sign.

 

deb

yeah. it took the writing a long time to catch up with their age

 

xakko

Peter's been fairly adult the whole time. Kitty- if she's really 20/21 years old, she should vacilate between teenagery angst and maturity

 

MadR

I'd love to see them really talk things out. This was more Kitty yelling at him and him standing there.

 

Amokitty

Exactly, Deb!

 

melodyrider

It was very well done, I thought.

 

Kirayoshi

She didn't really yell.

 

deb

then again charlie brown should be talking about the food in his retirement home by now

 

MadR

She brings up Zsjai and his suicide, and he doesn't say anything.

 

Amokitty

I really wanted to hear Peter say NO! when Kitty said Zsaji was "better". didn't happen and it should've.

 

darkstorm5000

I didn't really get that from her, but it was kind of a one-sided conversation scene

 

deb

maybe it will in the next conversation

 

xakko

reading the scene, she's laying it out- Emma was able to create the scenario because of Kitty's fears over Piotr's earlier "mistakes" - Zsaji and the Legacy Cure

 

Amokitty

Deb!!!! *cracks up*

 

Kirayoshi

I can understand that, but at least she didn't slam the door on any chance of them getting together.

 

Amokitty

I want to hear Peter say more than, "Are you going to yell at me some more?"

 

melodyrider

Exactly, Xak. She's asking for time not because of what Emma did, but so she can get over those fears that created the illusion in the first place

 

Kirayoshi

Peter does tend to be the strong silent type.

 

MadR

Isn't 'Da' and 'It was a fantasy" ALL he has to say in that scene? And the next time we see him he's cracking jokes. poorly.

 

xakko

i do too. Peter should challenge the assertions... maybe next issue he can explain why she doesn't have to fear those things anymore

 

melodyrider

Yeah, but he makes up for that a few pages later :)

 

Kirayoshi

Hopefully before the end of the arc he'll have his say.

 

melodyrider

oops, typed before I finished reading the line

 

Amokitty

I Absolutely agree on this, Rose. Peter's conscience should be on overdrive with fear as to the prophecy I would think. Not joking about it. Though it WAS funny and I liked it.

 

MadR

That's why I had the musebash about him defending himself.

 

Amokitty

God, that was a great story!!!

 

xakko

it was incredible, and so quickly done, rose

 

xakko

* is jealous

 

xakko

(again)

 

Kirayoshi

More than likely at some point Peter will say one thing, that'll turn out to be the right thing.

 

Amokitty

Joss needs to delve into Peter's thoughts about this. It's HUGE and he's GOT to have an opinion. I'd like to hear Kitty's opinion too.

 

Kirayoshi

Example: And to be clear, you are not crowding me...nearly enough.

 

MadR

That's another thing: If Joss mentioned Zsaji, I was so hoping one of the bits he'd reuse would be Warren and Katrina from Buffy.

 

xakko

Joss admits he finds Peter hard to write. if that means he restricts himself to quintessential lines, i guess i can deal

 

xakko

can you fill in the non-BtVS watchers, Rose?

 

MadR

The obvious mental coersion makes Zsaji NOT HIS FAULT.

 

Kirayoshi

Is it established that Peter was coerced?

 

MadR

Xak: geek with a hot ex-girlfriend invents a mind control device to get her back.

 

Amokitty

Guess I'm greedy then, cause I want more. He's alive now and I want more! Kitty's lover is going to destroy a freakin' PLANET. So I figure she must be beside herself.

 

MadR

Gimmie a minute....

 

Kirayoshi

brb

 

Amokitty

It mentions coercion in uncanny xmen.net

 

xakko

has it ever been touched on in canon?

 

Amokitty

Boy did THAT link get screwed up!

 

xakko

CC went the other route making it that Peter was scared (as Rose pointed out)

 

Amokitty

But Zsaji's empathic abilities are shown as an explanation there. I wish more people read this!

 

melodyrider

I think the thing that really made it clear to Kitty that she couldn't prevent the breakup was when he used poetry to describe Zsaji

 

MadR

Flipping through Secret Wars and I can't find it, dammit....

 

melodyrider

Oh, God, did I just kill the chat?

 

Kirayoshi

I suspect that he was coerced, but didn't want to make that his excuse.

 

MadR

We have the evidence of Johnny Storm and Peter Parker both admiring Zasji after healing.

 

xakko

well, it had a definite effect on Johnny Storm, and she didn't use the mist on him. she did with Peter

 

MadR

Peter is more badly injured, and needs more healing treatments of longer duration.

 

Amokitty

No. Heh. You make a good point, MR. I still remembering reading that passage all those years ago like it was yesterday. Broke my teenage heart that did. Poetry for another woman.... that just killed me.

 

MadR

Peter goes from daydreaming about his wedding to Kitty to thinking of Zsaji almost constantly.

 

Kirayoshi

Johnny practically forgot her before the end of the SW.

 

Kirayoshi

Mainly because John Byrne wanted to set him up with Alicia Masters.

 

xakko

beat me to the punch, Rose

 

MadR

Yeah, but she only has to touch Johnny once. Peter keeps getting the treatment.

 

Kirayoshi

I remember reading that issue. I thought, "If that's poetry, then I'm Charles Dickens!"

 

MadR

And then there's the conversation where Nightcrawler points out that Peter's acting irrationally and Zsaji seems to be responsible.

 

melodyrider

The important thing is that Kitty thought it was poetry

 

Kirayoshi

I also wondered, "Why is Peter telling Rogue all this?" before I realized that Kitty had gotten a haircut.

 

melodyrider

Ha!

 

Amokitty

Peter acted irrationally throughout the entire mini!!! Shooter can't write for spit. CC took months afterwards trying to repair the damage somewhat.

 

Kirayoshi

Seriously, she looked like Rogue, minus the bleach streak!

 

Kirayoshi

Mainly that Arcade story, IMO.

 

melodyrider

That was a great issue, K. One of my favorites

 

xakko

well, Annual #8 as well

 

Kirayoshi

Wasn't that Illyana's answer to Kitty's Fairy Tale?

 

xakko

yes, and ended with Kitty and Peter talking

 

Amokitty

Annual #8 was too bittersweet for me. I was collecting at the time, and the whole thing still stunk to me.

 

melodyrider

Yup. The adventures of Lockheed the Space Dragon and his pet girl Ktty

 

Amokitty

The whole thing meaning the breakup I should say....

 

Kirayoshi

I can understand why Shooter wanted them split, but the manner of the split was hamfisted at best.

 

xakko

i don't want to plug my own stuff, but i liked the idea that what Peter felt for Kitty was too important for words

 

Kirayoshi

I think Joss likes that idea.

 

Amokitty

That actually fits, Xak. Will this be touched on more in Kit's?

 

melodyrider

I can't understand why nobody thought to remind Shooter that Sue Storm was *twelve* when she met Reed

 

Amokitty

Thank you!!!!!!!

 

darkstorm5000

Twelve? Really?

 

Amokitty

Yep. At the family boarding house, correct/

 

Amokitty

Meant coorect with a question mark.

 

melodyrider

Yep, Reed stayed there while he went to college

 

Kirayoshi

Reed and Ben were in college, and Sue was making googoo eyes at Reed all summer.

 

melodyrider

you owe me a soda, now K!

 

Amokitty

Hee!!!!!!

 

xakko

i don't know, shari, what conversation will end up taking place between our favorite couple

 

Kirayoshi

I remember a fairly good What If where Victor Von Doom wasn't expelled from college after the accident.

 

Kirayoshi

And as a result he encounted Reed, Sue, Ben and Johnny years before they became the Fantastic Four.

 

MadR

Hah! Got it! "I can understand a man following his heart--going with what feels right! there's no honor lost in that. But can't he see that this obsession of his is just a side-effect of her healing power?"

 

MadR

Right there, black and white, page 279.

 

Amokitty

I'm wondering if we're even gonna GET one. After all Joss has implied that Lockheed's betrayal won't be touched on by him now. Probably won't explain Brandís tattoos either.

 

melodyrider

What were those two words again?

 

Amokitty

I love you, Rose. Passionately. Deeply. *hugs!!!!*:)Hooray!

 

MadR

You want angst pal? Let Joss write about Kitty finding out that Peter's feelings for Zsaji were induced, and Wolverine KNEW and did NOTHING to STOP IT!

 

melodyrider

That healing factor's about to come in real handy

 

Amokitty

Yep! Logan shoulda, woulda, coulda.

 

darkstorm5000

Might turn out like that What If? I thumbed through with Kitty and Wolverine recently

 

Kirayoshi

OI!

 

Kirayoshi

Which What If was that?

 

Amokitty

People need to stop saying stupid junk like Peter dumped Kitty due to lack of sex, or because he loved someone else. It's crap. It's a lie. And it's gone on too long!

 

MadR

I kinda went off in Likeadeuce's LJ on that when she asked who this floozy Peter dumped Kitty for.

 

darkstorm5000

One where Wolverine couldn't break his HYDRA brainwashing during Enemy of the State. I think Kitty put him down by phasing and solidifying her fist into his brain, losing her hand in the process to stop him

 

Amokitty

I must read this, and I will!!!!

 

Kirayoshi

Oh that one.

 

Kirayoshi

Not pretty.

 

Amokitty

Read her essay on Whedonesque by the way. Brilliant.

 

xakko

geez, thanks, Rose... i'll need to keep that in my pocket for future reference

 

xakko

i've tried to stay out of the Comixfan relationship thread, but that bit about "no sex" did irritate me...

 

Kirayoshi

Haven't seen that one.

 

MadR

I mean, at least Nightcrawler tries to report it. The next scene he starts to tell Xavier. "Professor! Colossus is..." "I know."

 

Amokitty

It pissed me off to no end, Xak. Probably for the best I don't post there anymore, huh?

 

MadR

It took me a long time to stop thinking of Wolverine as pond scum after reading Secret Wars.

 

xakko

probably... but most of the forums are irritating me a lot right now

 

Kirayoshi

No one came out of SW looking good!

 

Amokitty

I haven't read in decades. I haven't the stomach for it..... yeah, I hate it THAT much.

 

Kirayoshi

Seriously, it was like all the non-mutant heroes went and joined "Friends of Humanity" just before the mini started!

 

melodyrider

To this day I've never actually read SW

 

darkstorm5000

Guess it's good I've yet to read it, even though I actually own the TPB

 

Kirayoshi

Count your blessings, Mel.

 

Kirayoshi

It's the most overrated comic book ever written.

 

xakko

SW was one of my first exposures to a lot of non-X Marvel heroes

 

Kirayoshi

And you're still reading Marvel?

 

Amokitty

Oh the crap, MR. Save your money. Everybody looked like fools. SW was god-awful.

 

Kirayoshi

The only decent bit was a battle between Beyonder and Doctor Doom toward the end.

 

xakko

i don't think of it so badly, but Colossus gets the shaft more than anyone else.

 

melodyrider

Yeah, no plans to buy it. Seems like everything I might ever need to know about it is available in online summaries

 

xakko

and not in an Ultimate X-Men sort of way

 

MadR

Just another overblown multi-book event. More things change, the more things stay the same.

 

Kirayoshi

UGH!

 

Amokitty

I've been debating if I should post scans of it in New Arrivals. Opinions?

 

Kirayoshi

Did you have to say that?

 

xakko

no, i guess not

 

xakko

sorry

 

Kirayoshi

It's not that I mind Colossus being gay in the Ultimate universe, but it's like that's all he is!

 

darkstorm5000

And whines. Alot.

 

Kirayoshi

They need to get Illyana in the book, just to give Peter some character development.

 

melodyrider

Lately it seems that he's also incredibly protective... of Kitty

 

xakko

we were discussing that before you came in, K and mel

 

Kirayoshi

Missed it.

 

Amokitty

Yes, K! I want to know if Ultimate Peter actually has a personality! Is he interested in art??? Why aren't he and Kitty at least FRIENDS??

 

darkstorm5000

If he's shown an interest in art, I can't remember it right off-hand

 

melodyrider

Not sure. It's starting to llok to me like she's on her way out of the title so she can spend more time with Spiderman

 

Kirayoshi

Assuming that Bendis doesn't decide to get him back together with MJ.

 

darkstorm5000

He and Kitty seemed to just start off on a bad foot, and rarely say anything to one another. At least til recently...

 

MadR

I don't remember anything about art with Ultimate Piotr....he does play the guitar and they had Dazzler fag-hagging him so maybe they were going with musci

 

MadR

music.

 

Amokitty

Bendis is already writing Kitty as too much for Spidey, I think. He's planning for Kitty to push Spidey away, and then break them up.

 

Kirayoshi

I suspect that after this Clone War arc, he'll have MJ and Kitty both dump him at the same time.

 

Amokitty

I can't like Ultimate Peter because he's a completely different character who happens to be Russian.

 

Amokitty

I'd like that, K. I don't want her heart broken again. Can't understand what she saw in Bobby anyway.

 

Amokitty

Ultimate jerk Bobby, that is.

 

xakko

i don't know if i want to read the next Ult Spidey trade

 

MadR

One thing that's been bugging me is Ultimate Piotr's family...seems to have different people than 616.

 

xakko

is Ult. Bobby worse than Ult. Kurt?

 

melodyrider

brb

 

Amokitty

Good point!

 

darkstorm5000

You mean crazy Ult. Kurt?

 

Kirayoshi

Homophobic Ult. Kurt?

 

Kirayoshi

Just what we need.

 

Amokitty

Homo phobe Kurt?? Stalking Kurt??? What a joke.

 

darkstorm5000

It's like they're seeing which character they can make the biggest mess out of

 

Amokitty

I can't believe you did it to me AGAIN, K. I must owe you like, what, 3 cokes now????

 

Kirayoshi

Well, Thing was just possessed by Thanos, does that count?

 

Kirayoshi

I'll settle for a Jolt.

 

Amokitty

heh. :)

 

Kirayoshi

Or maybe a Sioux City Birch Beer.

 

xakko

gah... Ultimate Spidey is really the only bit i've liked, and it looks like that's going downhill too

 

Kirayoshi

Haven't had that in a long time.

 

Kirayoshi

They just made Doc Ock into a low-level Magneto, power-wise.

 

Amokitty

The new clone saga is good, but Kitty has been a little off lately. I really want to see her rescue Spidey. Haven't read the latest ish. My LCS sold out.

 

Kirayoshi

She finally puts in an appearance./

 

melodyrider

back

 

Kirayoshi

Xavier wants her to sit it out, but Cyclops agrees to take the team in to help Spider-Man.

 

darkstorm5000

She shows that Kitty Pryde stubborness we all know and love

 

xakko

well, Ult. Spidey is more deb's comic anyway, so it isn't like it's my choice to drop it

 

Amokitty

Aw man...! I really want to see this now!

 

darkstorm5000

The rest of the issue seems to take the whole arc one step backwards, though

 

MadR

Kitty and Spidey just started dating in the last trades I picked up, so....

 

Amokitty

How, DS?

 

Kirayoshi

This Hellboy cartoon is surprisingly good.

 

darkstorm5000

Without spoiling things too much for you, they kill alot of the story potentials that had been opened up

 

Kirayoshi

Very heavy in Japanese mythology.

 

Amokitty

You mentioned Ultimate Peter's family, Rose. Could you expand on that?

 

Amokitty

Such a multi-tasker, that Kirayoshi.

 

MadR

That Hellboy cartoon was pretty good, I think they got all the actors back to voice.

 

Kirayoshi

I also have a roast in the oven.

 

darkstorm5000

Ultimate Peter has a two or three younger siblings, if I'm correct

 

Kirayoshi

That's definitely Ron Perlman as Hellboy.

 

Amokitty

Kills some potential? Hmmmm. That a good or bad thing, DS?

 

MadR

Okay, when Pete quits the team and ends up working at an auto plant in St. Petersburg and Scott and Jean go to get him back, he's living with an old woman and two 6, 7 year old boys

 

darkstorm5000

Bad thing, IMO

 

Amokitty

It's 10:30 and you've got a ROAST in the oven, too??? Wow.

 

MadR

When they fly his family in for Parents' Day, there's the silhouette of a teenage girl.

 

Kirayoshi

Late dinner.

 

darkstorm5000

brb

 

MadR

And the one where they go to the boardwalk, he's trying to beat a carny game to win Illyana a stuffed animal.

 

Amokitty

Hmmmm, wonders if Ultimate Mikhail is a child and Illyana is the older one.... interesting.

 

Kirayoshi

Am I the only person who wants to see an Ultimate Lockheed>

 

melodyrider

That would be fantastic!

 

deb left.

 

 

Amokitty

I would!

 

xakko

deb says that she's tired... and thinks she just got disconnected for inactivity

 

MadR

....I wonder how they would 'ultimate-ize Lockheed' though?

 

xakko

but she says she had fun and good night until you all

 

Amokitty

Bye, Deb. Hope you have a Happy New Year!

 

MadR

Tell Deb G'nite then.

 

Kirayoshi

jMaybe make him a giant dragon, one that can serve as transportation in a pinch.

 

Kirayoshi

Bye Deb.

 

xakko

would a giant dragon work in the allegedly realistic Ultimate Universe?

 

melodyrider

Or do the reverse of Mystique. Make Lochkeed a human or mutant character

 

Amokitty

I want Joss to resolve the Lockheed situation, and it looks like he won't. Not happy about this at all.

 

MadR

I'm still boggling over Kitty having Lockheed in the X Men Three novelization.

 

xakko

i don't know if he'll explain everything... but i still think the dragon's on the SWORD ship

 

Amokitty

I thought the Evo idea of a stuffed dragon was cute. Even cuter? Lia's name for it. "Martin". Swear to God, that cracks me up every time!!!!

 

MadR

That was very cute.

 

xakko

i wish Lia felt the creative energy to write more

 

Amokitty

I really miss reading her work. It's clever and emotional. It grabs you. Especially her latest. I was hoping Lia would write more of it, but not yet, apparently. I'm telling you guys, it is absolutely marvelous. It is simply beautiful.

 

melodyrider

Hm, new AXM musebash fic just got posted on the Kiotr LJ

 

Amokitty

Isn't Rose the cat's meow?

 

Kirayoshi

Link please.

 

Melodyrider

http://community.livejournal.com/kiotr/30253.html#cutid1

 

Amokitty

Link?

 

MadR

another one? yay!

 

Amokitty

Whoops. I'm too slow on the uptake. As usual.

 

Amokitty

That's great. The comm has been a bit slow lately. This site too. I think it must be due to the holidays.

 

Kirayoshi

Could be.

 

MadR

Yuletide tends to take a lot of people's free time.

 

Kirayoshi

I may have a Kiotr fic in the near future.

 

xakko

ooooh!

 

MadR

Yahoo!

 

Kirayoshi

Had some ideas for a possible epilogue to Joss' arc, at least how I think it might end.

 

xakko

(pretty strong fic that...)

 

melodyrider

*cheers*

 

Kirayoshi

And with those cryptic words, I really must head out.

 

Kirayoshi

Talk at you folk later.

 

Kirayoshi

Cya

 

Kirayoshi

Peace out.

 

MadR

Gnite Kirayoshi

 

melodyrider

Good night K, have a Happy New Year!

 

Amokitty

Kirayoshi, you just made me so happy. :)

 

Kirayoshi

Happy New Year to you all too!

 

Kirayoshi left.

 

 

Amokitty

I'm so glad you came by!

 

Amokitty

Darn.

 

xakko

gah... if you read the transcript, K, hope you had a happy new year!

 

Amokitty

I love his work, and I'm really looking forward to the latest.

 

xakko

i love everyone's work.

 

Amokitty

Hope your New Year's Day is safe and wonderful, K!

 

xakko

+everyone brings something different to the table, different insights, different attitudes, different voices

 

MadR

Looking forward to reading a new one by K.

 

Amokitty

Aren't we the luckiest, Xak? Getting to talk with such talented people? (yourself included!!!)

 

melodyrider

I agree completely, Xak. The many approaches everyone chooses leads to some fantastic variety

 

xakko

thanks, but i still have barely two works to my credit. then again, oldprydefan has just the one, and darned if that isn't still one of the best

 

MadR

I really need to do some writing myself.

 

Amokitty

Exactly.

 

xakko

(says the most prolific of us all)

 

MadR

Oh, I wish Oldprydefan would come back and finish Paper Flowers.

 

Amokitty

Are you planning to add more to your Essential Colossus, Rose?

 

MadR

One of the stories I'm juggling.

 

xakko

Rose, your fics generally leave me with the happiest feelings... i think you have the highest quotient of Happy Endings.

 

Amokitty

Happily Ever After too, then? *looks hopeful*

 

MadR

SentinelAngst's dueslist policy was good training, but I'm getting lazy.

 

MadR

Yep, working on Happily Ever After too.

 

Amokitty

Fantastic.

 

Amokitty

Darkstorm, I've been meaning to ask if there's anything you'd like to share plotwise with your latest?

 

MadR

My Former Fandom was mailing list based, and you had to produce a story every two months or they'd ban you.

 

Amokitty

Whoa.

 

xakko

i thought it was funny when the editor of the OHOTMU questioned me about my disapproval of the description of the Peter-Pete fight in Exc #92

 

Amokitty

What?!!!

 

melodyrider

That's a pretty stiff rule. Bet it helped jog the muse, though :)

 

Amokitty

I haven't gotten my copy yet. Supposed to be in next week, I think.

 

xakko

i would've gotten banned after chapter 4 of Kits, I think... maybe 5

 

MadR

Nah, the list mods were pretty easy with extensions, and you could get someone else to 'donate' a story once in a while. But it gave you a deadline.

 

Amokitty

Xakko, did you get your copy then?

 

xakko

of the OHOTMU? yeah...

 

Amokitty

Do you miss that a bit, Rose?

 

MadR

OHOTMU?

 

Amokitty

Damn! I don't have mine!!

 

xakko

Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe

 

Amokitty

yeah.

 

darkstorm5000

back

 

MadR

It's a little too easy to put off writing without that artificial goal, yeah.

 

xakko

it basically gives the Kete version of the fight

 

MadR

Ooh.

 

MadR

What'd he say when you corrected it?

 

Amokitty

DS, I was hoping you'd tell us about any plot bunnies you'd like to share with your latest project.

 

xakko

i just said that it was factually correct for the most part but would lead to an incorrect conclusion

 

xakko

namely that Peter was trying to kill Wisdom in a murderous rage.

 

Amokitty

And.....? Did the editor agree?

 

darkstorm5000

Well, right now I'm working on my prequel fic. It focuses more on Thunderbird, and his feelings about being around his X-Men teammates.

 

xakko

he didn't reply.

 

xakko

i'm waiting for the Ketes to jump on me for it.

 

Amokitty

Of course he didn't. figures.

 

MadR

Aw well. At least you tried.

 

darkstorm5000

Particularly, his feelings towards Storm...

 

melodyrider

whoo, close one. I almost owed you a soda, there Amo :)

 

MadR

Oh, cool, DS.

 

Amokitty

Darkstorm, I LOVE T-Bird. I am so looking forward to this. He, like Peter, gets stereotyped too much. Too quiet also. I can't wait to read it!

 

Amokitty

Ha!!!!! :D

 

Amokitty

Where did your correction take place, Xak?

 

xakko

there's a thread for it on CBR...

 

Amokitty

I'm sick of Kete's ignoring canon. This book will just perpetuate the stupidity.

 

xakko

that was my concern.

 

darkstorm5000

That's what I want to avoid, with him being just the quiet one, or the one with some kind of weird death wish. That's why I think it's easier having them as teenagers, wiping that slate a bit

 

xakko

they get their story as reference material

 

MadR

brb

 

Amokitty

Maybe a bit more like how Ultimate SHOULD be, DS??

 

darkstorm5000

I know

 

Amokitty

Sloppy reference work for the handbook. Man, does this irk me. I'm tired of being the undeserving underdog, you know?

 

Amokitty

Kete's have been quiet for a bit. Wonder when the next ish of Wisdom is out. anyone know?

 

xakko

to be fair, it's the Wisdom entry. I just can't remember when Colossus last got a write up

 

melodyrider

Not till February

 

Amokitty

Huh. And I thought Astonishing was bad.

 

melodyrider

Apparently the artist is slower than molassas. He's been replaced for issue 4

 

melodyrider

oops, my bad. Jan 10

 

Amokitty

I still want to know when Peter became an American citizen. I've read the marvel.com version of AOA history, and I'm telling you I never read it. What is this anyway? Colossus saved Kitty from Sabertooth? WTH?

 

Amokitty

I wonder if editors play fast and loose sometimes with continuity and then don't bother to let the readers in on it.

 

xakko

all the time

 

darkstorm5000

Or just plain don't pay attention to it is more likely

 

xakko

of course, Joey Q has said that at this moment Marvel has the greatest editorialship stable ever

 

Amokitty

Then that's WRONG. If AOA Colossus saves Kitty from Sabertooth, then it's only fair that I get to read it.

 

Amokitty

yeah right!

 

Amokitty

Who is writing the "official" untold story anyway? I would really like to know this. Those backstories seem interesting.

 

Amokitty

My turn to kill the chat now. :)

 

MadR left.

 

 

xakko

it may have been in a backstory to give to the AoA writers

 

xakko

oops... Rose go byebye?

 

Amokitty

She wouldn't leave without saying Bye. I'm sure she'll be back.

 

Amokitty

Just curious if Lobdell wrote all this AOA history that's never been shown is all.

 

melodyrider

Were any theories tossed out for how everyone will survive the missile attack launched at the end of this issue?

 

xakko

not that i've seen

 

xakko

clearly, Scott's got a plan C

 

xakko

(which was an amazing line)

 

Amokitty

I'm wondering if there will be any survivors. That planet is in civil strife right now. Thousands are dying anyways, if those babies are anything to go by.

 

xakko

yeah... they do have their teleportation beam....

 

melodyrider

It would be over the top, but right now my money's on Kitty phasing the whole ship

 

xakko

hard to picture that... since he had her struggle to phase just the X-men through the giant sentinel's beam

 

Amokitty

A sentinel blast is one thing, but a ship might be beyond her abilities. We know they survive it. Watch Lockheed somehow save them. heh.

 

MadR joined.

 

 

MadR

bak

 

Amokitty

hey dear.

 

melodyrider

Yes, but she aslo had 18 virtual months to expand her phasing abilities

 

xakko

hello again

 

Amokitty

Very true!

 

xakko

excellent point

 

Amokitty

Can't help but wonder what Peter thinks about her torture. God knows he could relate.

 

MadR

guess I got knocked off for inactivity; had to let the dogs out, there was a raccoon situation, etc...

 

Amokitty

I love raccoons, but they like to make messes.

 

Amokitty

If Kitty would just open up to him, I think he could help her.

 

melodyrider

Bet Sam could help her get over it too :)

 

darkstorm5000

That's something I noticed and always thought odd about Evo: Kitty. That she could phase the X-Jet through a mountain at such a younger age on one episode, while the rest of the character's power-levels were fairly in tune with their 616-canon counterparts.

 

Amokitty

Oh yeah, Joyride!

 

melodyrider

She also phased an entire train once on Evo

 

MadR

Of course, Evo also had her leave her toothbrush in Hank's chest cavity....

 

darkstorm5000

Maybe she was intentionally meant to be the show's exception to the rule?

 

xakko

Kurt could teleport more than early Nightcrawler could

 

Amokitty

They kinda dumbed Kitty down quite a bit, so the power level thing maybe makes up for it?

 

xakko

(in 616)

 

darkstorm5000

"With great power, comes a hefty price..."

 

Amokitty

LOL.

 

MadR

They took a lot of her geekiness too. No scifi refs.

 

Amokitty

No ballet either.

 

melodyrider

No Cubs even

 

Amokitty

*smiles*

 

xakko

you don't see many real sports teams... and unless i'm mistaken, being a huge Cubs fan was a later addition to her character

 

melodyrider

I'd have to research that

 

Amokitty

Then again 616 Kitty wouldn't give Avalanche the time of day, let alone her phone number. This too, is a case of being very, very different. Needless to say I'm not a huge Evo Kitty fan. Maybe that's why I love the Evo fanfic (when its good).

 

MadR

Isn't there a Cubs fan reference in one of power-baseball bits?

 

xakko

possibly. but later CC writing makes the Cubs fan an essential aspect to her. i like it, but she seemed to grow into it

 

Amokitty

Rose, Lia, DS, Jeremy... all of your Evo stuff is better than TV. Quoted for truth.

 

darkstorm5000

The Kitty/Avalanche pairing not withstanding, I thought Evo: Avalanche was a bit of an improvement over his 616 version personality-wise

 

xakko

she mentions it especially in GLMK2, Mekanix, X-men: The End, etc...

 

MadR

It's been a while since I reread my Essentials, so I'm fuzzy on the little details.

 

melodyrider

Girls' School From Heck...

 

MadR

I know I made her a Cubs fan in X-3 Movieverse fic to explain that *&&%% TV Set.

 

melodyrider

That was a great story ::laugh

 

Amokitty

616 has no personality. He's supposed to be Greek and married. Another case of stories being told without really showing it.

 

Amokitty

Avalanche that is...

 

MadR

I can really only remember one plotline 616 Avalance was even in. Very forgettable.

 

darkstorm5000

Glad you did. Because, the only thing that I could come up with was that he went and took it from Scott's after...you know. Which I know it's wrong for thinking it, but it's the first thing that came to mind

 

MadR

I love how the director and producer actually admit in the dvd commentary that the only reason for the TV scene was to show how ridiculously tall Danny Cudmore is.

 

xakko

but Evo Avalanche was really Rictor...

 

xakko

which means he'd be a better pairing for an Evo Northstar... or Shatterstar

 

darkstorm5000

And I didn't catch on to that until much later

 

xakko

i still haven't seen X3

 

Amokitty

Really, Xak? I thought it was a good girl - bad guy scenario similar to the Kitty/Wisdom fling.

 

Amokitty

No desire to see the movie yet??

 

Amokitty

Daniel Cudmore is ridiculously gorgeous you mean! ;) I would've so appreciated him having more lines in the movie!

 

xakko

well, it definitely played off that, but it looked more like Rictor than Avalanche anyway...

 

xakko

and no, no desire to see X3. i put it on my Secret Santa suggestion list, but didn't get it

 

Amokitty

Yes. Lance is a dead ringer for Rictor in looks.

 

MadR

The best thing about X3 was the SciFi Heroes poster magazine that came out with the Daniel Cudmore in costume poster. Drools.

 

Amokitty

Not willing to pay to see it huh? Heh, can't blame you. I only bought the dvd hoping for deleted scenes with K&P.

 

Amokitty

I wish I could see that, Rose. :(

 

xakko

deep down, i've got a strong Scott-Jean fandom, and watching X3 will just raise my blood pressure

 

Amokitty

I wanna Daniel Cudmore poster too, and who can blame me!

 

MadR

I've got it on a corkboard over my computer desk here, along with the Wizard Magazine poster of the Astonishing Kiotr-romance novel cover.

 

Amokitty

Yes, yes it will. Jott was treated badly in the movie, Xak.

 

xakko

it was treated badly for the entire series... clearly Singer was no fan

 

Amokitty

*laughs at Rose* I like how you put that! Romance novel cover..... I've got it on a t-shirt!

 

xakko

i'm envious, tho' i doubt i would wear it in public

 

Amokitty

Clearly Ratner's not a fan of Colossus either.

 

darkstorm5000

Despite Singer's flaws regarding Jean and Scott, X3 was downright disrespectful in that aspect IMO

 

Amokitty

I wore it to my LCS once. Not one comment. I just sleep in it now.

 

MadR

It so looks like a romance novel cover. The way she's leaning back against his bare chest and reaching up to touch his face? total romance novel cover.

 

Amokitty

Isn't it wonderful?

 

Amokitty

It's disrespectful to fans too, DS. No one at Fox thinks about that though.

 

darkstorm5000

Yeah, it's all about money. Which is why I'm not all that excited about rumors of an X4 movie

 

MadR

It really wasn't well written. But it had cool fight scenes and explosions, and that's all TPTB care about.

 

xakko

and yet, if they do movie Dark Phoenix, and Scott's there, how does Logan take center stage?

 

Amokitty

By screwing the fans of the story over, that's how.

 

xakko

precisely

 

xakko

maybe i'll have Jean back alive in my current fic

 

MadR

X Men 4: Everybody Loves Logan.

 

melodyrider

Kit's or the new one?

 

darkstorm5000

Since he's getting his own movie, I don't think he'll even be in it

 

Amokitty

I understand it when people say that the movie can't mimic the book in every way. Of course. But Scott is central to all of it!!! Change the other stuff, that's fine. But the whole frigging saga is about Jean and her redemption thanks to Scott!

 

xakko

the new one

 

xakko

Kit's is set between Gifted and Danger...

 

Amokitty

Rose just killed me..... :D

 

xakko

gah...

 

melodyrider

It'd be cool to see how you bring her back

 

Amokitty

Any hints you'd care to share Xakko, about your new story?

 

MadR

And on that note, I'm afraid I'm going to have to call it an evening. A morning, actually.

 

melodyrider

'Night Rose!

 

darkstorm5000

Goodnoght Rose

 

MadR

Happy New Year, all. Great chatting with ya.

 

Amokitty

Rose, thank you dear. I'm glad you made it!

 

Amokitty

Happy New year to you!!!

 

Amokitty

Night, sleep tight!

 

MadR left.

 

 

Amokitty

I keep forgetting the time difference. How you holding up, Xak?

 

xakko

it's 3 am...

 

Amokitty

Do we have lag?

 

xakko

no... i was just checking another site

 

xakko

gah, missed rose... happy new year!

 

xakko

i think i need to go to bed...

 

melodyrider

3am is pretty late...

 

Amokitty

I understand. Maybe next time you'll share some spoilers for your story?

 

melodyrider

please? :)

 

Amokitty

LOL.

 

Amokitty

Maybe he's off again? Oh well... :)

 

xakko

no, still here...

 

xakko

spoilers... um, ok... to hell and back?

 

xakko

(hopefully?)

 

melodyrider

Hell?.. Or Limbo?

 

Amokitty

Illyana!!!!!!! Please?

 

xakko

could be, wabbit

 

Amokitty

Oooooh...... I hate waiting!

 

xakko

(considering the file's currently called "Rescuing Illyana", i hope so)

 

xakko

working title only.

 

Amokitty

I LOVE XAKKO! There, I said it!!!!!

 

xakko

* blushes...

 

xakko

and with that, i bid you all a good night, and a wonderful new year

 

Amokitty

I gotta say, I am thrilled with this.

 

Amokitty

Thank you so very much!

 

xakko

may Joss resolve to keep Kitty and Peter together with a happy ending

 

darkstorm5000

Goodnight, Xak!

 

Amokitty

Happy New Year to you and Deb! Be careful tomorrow night!

 

xakko

i did ask in our last chat what people's illyana rescue ideas were

 

Amokitty

Indeed!

 

xakko

g'nite! thanks again for hosting, shari! happy holidays to you all!

 

Amokitty

Foreshadowing, huh?

 

Amokitty

Night, Xak!

 

xakko left.

 

 

Amokitty

Well, I'm just all kinds of happy with the sneak previews I've gotten tonight!

 

melodyrider

darn, missed Xak

 

Amokitty

I'm sure he'll catch it on the transcript. I hope to have it up tomorrow.

 

melodyrider

Yay for his new story, though. Can't wait for him to post more!

 

Amokitty

Darkstorm's new story with Thunderbird, mariko-Sunfire, and Morph is so well written! Thanks for the hints on it, DS!

 

darkstorm5000

No prob! I'm just glad you find it interesting

 

Amokitty

Well, it IS interesting! Story speaks for itself!

 

Amokitty

Speaking of... in Looking for a New Connection, the chaps all seem to be individual stories, but they aren't. I know its part of a much larger set-up. Care to expand on this?

 

darkstorm5000

They'll all connect into a larger arc, eventually. It's just that I wanted to give some background on the various characters, before jumping into a nother all-out slugfest, which is what I'm building towards long-term.

 

melodyrider

sounds pretty cool, DS

 

darkstorm5000

And since I skipped a year from the end of the series, there had to be a number of character developments in the meantime. Like with Rogue, and having her able to control her powers. In an upcoming chapter, it'll go further into what it means for a person in self-imposed isolation to have to deal with that reality of being able to touch, and how scary that may acutally be.

 

Amokitty

It is cool, MR. There are little hints through out the story of something coming together for something BIG. Quality Evo story.

 

melodyrider

Well, looks like it's time for me to turn in.

 

Amokitty

Good of you to come by!

 

melodyrider

Thank you. I had a great time chatting with all of you!

 

Amokitty

Hope and your family have a Happy New Year, too. :)

 

darkstorm5000

Have a good night MR!

 

melodyrider

Good night and Happy New Year to both of you!

 

Amokitty

YOU and your family that is... lord, my typing tonight.

 

Amokitty

Good night!

 

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Amokitty

You know the wait is getting bad on resolving your "Connection" story right? heh, heh.

 

Amokitty

*looks askance* not hinting or anything..... ;)

 

darkstorm5000

Yeah, I know. Wish I could push it along a little faster, but I have to admit to getting lazy over the holidays ::glare

 

Amokitty

Oh you writers are all getting lazy!! Now why would you want to go and do a thing like that to us for?!! LOL.

 

darkstorm5000

Part of the problem is that some of these plotlines I had originally written form my movie-verse fics, and it's just taking me time to decide what I still want to use and how

 

Amokitty

You have more plot bunnies to write? Cool!!!

 

darkstorm5000

I have too many. And like a kid with ADD, I get distracted easy. Hence, a fic with a hundred individual stories going on at once

 

Amokitty

You sound just like Rose!

 

darkstorm5000

Heh

 

Amokitty

I'm not complaining though! I'm selfish like that. always wanting more....

 

darkstorm5000

One thing I have been toying with is the death of a major character, and if I'd really want to go through with it

 

Amokitty

wow. Is this a character you like?

 

darkstorm5000

I like most characters. And yeah, you could say he's been fairly central to everything I've written. And before you get worried, it's not Kitty or Peter ::biggrin

 

Amokitty

I wasn't gonna ask. Honest!

 

darkstorm5000

Still, wanted to keep your mind at ease

 

Amokitty

what are your thoughts on who might die in Astonishing??

 

darkstorm5000

That changes with every issue for me. My most likely remains Emma or Hisako, but with Joss you just never know. Hank also comes to mind, just because of the misleading AXM #4 cover way back when

 

Amokitty

I hadn't thought of the cover. Good point. I really don't want anyone to die, but this Joss we're talking about here. If Hisako dies, I fail to see how earthshaking this finale is going to be. On the other hand, Joss has already killed off Wing, so Hisako seems like cannon fodder.

 

darkstorm5000

That's why I tend to lean away from Hisako, because she seems like the most likely. I think Emma is next, because her death would reverberate to other areas of the X-Universe, and it seems that he's moving Scott into a whole new direction

 

Amokitty

Emma is the flavor of the month now. It would take GUTS on Whedon's part to do that. Oh the hell that would break loose if that happened..... Personally, I'm afraid it's Hank, or Kitty. Maybe Peter, but that would be so stupid (to me) to bring him back, just to turn around and off him again. It would completely ruin how marvelous Astonishing #4 and #5 were.

 

darkstorm5000

Unless he gives her a 'Buffy' death, i don't think it would be Kitty. But like I said, I guess everyone's fair game except Wolverine. And it wouldn't surprise me if it was Wolverine, and his god-like healing factor brought him back next ish.

 

Amokitty

*laughs* I know what you mean.

 

darkstorm5000

I think it's getting about time for me to turn in

 

Amokitty

Thank you for coming tonight, Darkstorm! Any New Year's Eve plans?

 

darkstorm5000

Not really. I try to stay in on New Year's Eve, just to keep from having to deal with the surplus of knuckleheads that seem to come out.

 

Amokitty

All the crazies on the loose.... yeah, things tend to get weird. It's worse when they're behind the wheel of a car. I understand completely. We don't have plans either. Been under the weather, so i think we're staying home.

 

Amokitty

I'm so glad you came tonight!

 

darkstorm5000

I'm happy to! And look for my next chapter of 'Before Evolution' hopefully within the next week if not sooner. And as a spoiler, look for Dazzler to make her first appearance in the next chapter of 'Connections'...

 

Amokitty

Awesome! Thanks again, DS. Happy New Year to you, dear!!

 

darkstorm5000

Happy New Year! Good night and talk to you again real soon!

 

Amokitty

Good night! :)

 

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Amokitty

Really insightful evening. So many interesting points were given about the Breakworld prophecy. Another reason (of many) that I love these chats. Hoping that Tomaka can stick around next time.Disappointed that I didn't get Lia's opinion on the Kitty and Peter conversation in this latest Astonishing issue, but there's always so much going on! Very glad that we all had a chance to visit though.It's so much fun! Loved the fanfiction hints too. Gives me something to look forward to.

 

Amokitty

May everyone have a happy, healthy, prosperous New Year!! Peace. Good night all!

 

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