Transcript for KIOTR Chat  -  November 1st, 2008
Topic: Wolverine First Class #8, and the new Wolverine and The X-Men Series

 

Amokitty

Hi everyone, Kiotr Chats are back and there’s a lot to talk about!  We have recent X-stories, and today’s finales of Book of Magik and A Whole New World.  Can’t wait to get to it!

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Author376

Hello!

 

Amokitty

376! Good evening! Nice to see you here!! :)

 

Author376

It's nice to be here. I was all worked up this morning because I thought that the chat was last night and I'd forgotten about it, but MadR set me strait! ::smile

 

Amokitty

Heh, heh. It's almost always held on a Saturday, but there have a few exceptions here and there...

 

Author376

I know, but with all the papers and such I've got going on at school I just got mixed up. Heh, happens to us all!

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Amokitty

Jeremy!! Yay, you're here!!!

 

Author376

Hi! J_Harper, welcome!

 

J_Harper

Hello.

 

J_Harper

How is everyone?

 

Amokitty

What's shaking? :)

 

Author376

Greetings, salutations, and we're all well. I think...

 

Amokitty

I'm doing pretty good, actually. You?

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Xakko

hi there!

 

Amokitty

Hi there, Xak!!  :)

 

Author376

Hi, Xakko, welcome and all that jazz!

 

J_Harper

Nothing much. Been on vacation for a week. Going back to work Monday. Could use another week, but who couldn't?

 

Author376

Yeah, I know, the weekends seem shorter every week!

 

Amokitty

Tell me about it! Where did you go? Or did you stay home and sleep, and blissfully do nothing?

 

J_Harper

Hello, Xakko.

 

Xakko

oh, I dunno, this has been one of the longest weeks of my life

 

J_Harper

Slept alot. Binged on a new game I got: Fallout 3. That's about it. Was pretty much a stick in the mud.

 

Amokitty

Well, the contest IS a lot of responsibility...

 

Author376

Well, for all the longest week angst, you've capped off a wonderful story, thanks again for sharing it with everyone, Xakko!

 

Author376

I imagine the contest was a load and a half, like Amokitty said.

 

Amokitty

Jeremy: But at least you're rested and refreshed somewhat. Stay at home vacations should never be underrated. ;)

 

J_Harper

True.

 

Xakko

(actually, I was talking about the bronchitis - no sleep and no energy made the days drag from one coughing fit to the next)

 

Author376

Ugh, bronchitis is evil. My brother and older sister had it almost chronically as kids. I can still remember how miserable they were every winter.

 

Amokitty

How are you and Deb doing, Xak?? You mentioned starting to get better.

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Author376

Hello Kirayoshi!

 

J_Harper

Hey.

 

Kirayoshi

Yo, y'all

 

Xakko

hiya kirayoshi!

 

Amokitty

Kirayoshi in the house!! So happy you're here! :)

 

Xakko

I'm doing better, deb - I dunno, she's been feeling pretty cruddy today

 

Kirayoshi

So, any good anti-Brubaker rants I miss?

 

Amokitty

Sorry about that, Xak. My better half isn't so well either.

 

Author376

Sorry about Deb, hope she feels better soon too.

 

Xakko

gah, poor Mark!

 

Kirayoshi

hope they're feeling better soon.

 

Amokitty

Not yet, K, heh heh. Fraction should be lynched.

 

Xakko

well wishes and virtual chicken soup to him!

 

Author376

Oh, how is your husband Amokitty? What's the problem?

 

Amokitty

Thank you, Xak. :)

 

Amokitty

Sinusitis. In the worst way possible, unfortunately.

 

Kirayoshi

Have them try some hot chai with ecenachia.

 

Amokitty

So how was everyone's Halloween?

 

Xakko

the buggy season has started out rather ominously

 

Amokitty

Will do, K. Good idea.

 

Author376

Uck, that's terrible. Right now, the kids my classes are observing have been handing our a grab-bag of every kind of virus and cold they've got to everyone BUT me, so I've been lucky.

 

Author376

Though, now I've jinxed myself...

 

Kirayoshi

I've managed to stay bug-free thus far.

 

Amokitty

:D

 

Xakko

knock on wood you two

 

Author376

I can't find any, all my furniture is over-rated pressed paper pretending to be real wood!

 

Kirayoshi

I just picked up a new computer desk myself

 

Amokitty

That's just typical IKEA furniture, 376!

 

Author376

Cool, new furniture is good!

 

Kirayoshi

Clearance sale at Office Depot.

 

Author376

Not IKEA, Wal-Mart and Lowes... Heh, college!

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Xakko

hiya Rose!

 

Author376

Hi MadR!!!!

 

Kirayoshi

And the battle is joined!

 

Amokitty

Hi there, Rose! Great to have you!! :D

 

Kirayoshi

Oh, nice finale, Xak.

 

J_Harper

No kids last night. Traditionally we've never gotten many children, but I think now all the parents are too pussy to actually let them walk the streets, so they take 'em to the mall for candy, which makes me feel a little sad and old.

 

Xakko

thanks, K

 

MadR

Hiya all!

 

Xakko

writer's blocked for months, then it all comes out in one night.

 

Kirayoshi

I hear ya.

 

Author376

We don't get that many kids because their parents take them to local church parties that are anit-halloween.

 

Amokitty

The times they are a-changin', Jeremy. For once we had no candy left. Wonder of wonders.

 

Kirayoshi

I was tackling a problem I had with But Not Forgotten

 

Xakko

we had 37. we have like 7 bags of candy left.

 

Author376

We got a kid dressed as Prince Zuko who was cuter than all get out, though, and he made my Halloween!

 

Kirayoshi

Namely, how do I get around the giant bullet's magic barrier.

 

Xakko

should have brought Talisman along... but a little late for that now

 

J_Harper

I remeber, some months back, while driving home from CVS, seeing two young kids playing on a residential street without any adults around, and my first thought was 'why are the out unsupervised'. And when I realized that was my first thought, I thought what a lousy place the world is now.

 

Author376

The magic barrier is a problem.

 

Kirayoshi

Melodyrider's post, with that alliterative story, gave me an idea.

 

Author376

We live in a rural area, so kids are allowed to be unsupervised... but I wish they weren't allowed to be unsupervised on ATV's and 4-wheelers and such. That's how spinal inuries occur.

 

Amokitty

At least trick or treating in the malls is safe. My lord, out at night alone.... Geez.

 

Xakko

puff is hovering behind my chair - i fear she's gonna be a bit of a pest tonight

 

Kirayoshi

If Kurt has posession of the Soulsword, he can use it to remove the magic aura.

 

Author376

My parents just went with me when I went trick-or-treating. I don't see why parents won't do that now.

 

Kirayoshi

My folks didn't go in for trick or treating.

 

J_Harper

Magic barrier? I haven't read 24 or Annual 1 yet. I knew the bullet was travelling at trans-light, but didn't know that there was anti-magic as well. Was I right about the Breakworlders being Sorcerer-Scientists?

 

Author376

Whee, you're right, Kurt could do that! Brilliant! *virtual cookies*

 

MadR

I doubt the world's really more dangerous for kids, though, we just hear more about bad things that happen.

 

Amokitty

Then pet the Puffmeister, Xak! Don't make her suffer! ;)

 

Xakko

most of the kids we had were supervised here.

 

Kirayoshi

It's indicated in Giant-Sized AXM.

 

J_Harper

That's what I think Rose.

 

J_Harper

Huh.

 

Kirayoshi

Won't give anything else away.

 

Author376

I also agree with Rose. Media's just gotten HUGE.

 

Amokitty

Yes, Jeremy. The Auguers are sorcerers.

 

Author376

Spoilers have stopped, sighs.

 

Author376

Can anyone else hear crickets chirping?

 

Amokitty

It only lasts a moment, 376. Then it gets furious again!

 

MadR

I haven't reread AXM lately, but you could always handwave though.

 

Author376

Hee, sorry, too much sugar!

 

J_Harper

Don't particular care any more, K. I've pretty much given up on comics for a variety of reasons.

 

Amokitty

I dropped AXM. Just not interested.

 

MadR

Heh, 376....you know I don't type that fast.

 

Kirayoshi

Not a Warren Ellis fan, huh?

 

MadR

I wonder how many of us Whedon lost for Marvel?

 

Author376

I'm still boycotting Marvel. On the plus side, I've saved some money! and spent it on gas...

 

Xakko

I'm trying to pet and read... she's just going to have to deal.

 

Author376

Multi-tasking with a rabbit. Very handy skill to have!

 

Amokitty

I like Ellis on some things, and for part enjoyed his Excal run. But I'm not liking his version of Ororo on AXM.

 

Xakko

I've cut back, but no full boycot

 

J_Harper

Never realized rabbits had personalities. But then, I've never been around rabbits...

 

MadR

Now picturing Xakko at his computer with Puff in his lap like a really bad Bond villain.

 

Kirayoshi

I'm holding out for the next issue of Nexus myself.

 

Author376

Oh God!!! Dr. Evil!

 

Amokitty

*for the MOST part* she tries to type... if only she COULD type. sigh

 

Kirayoshi

There was an anniversary sale at my local comic book store a few weeks ago.

 

Author376

Sales are good.

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Kirayoshi

I picked up the Echo tpb by Terry Moore, and vol. 1 of Runaways.

 

starsinger

Hi!

 

Author376

HI Starsinger, great last chapter on New World!

 

Amokitty

Hi Starsinger! Glad you're here tonight!!

 

Xakko

Puff isn't a laprabbit., she's more like the ones that brought defeat and humilation to Napoleon

 

Xakko

hi starsinger!

 

starsinger

Thank you, that's exactly how I wanted to end it!

 

Kirayoshi

Ended up getting some freebies as well, including a variant cover of Booster Gold 1, and a Women of the DCU poster by Adam Hughes.

 

MadR

I still haven't picked up the last trade of AXM with Kitty and Piotr still in it. The ending of their story just wrecked me and I fell into DC.

 

MadR

Hi Starsinger!

 

starsinger

hey Rose!

 

Author376

So she's a Russian Rabbit? And she shows you the folly of your invasion schemes?

 

Xakko

I liked both of those, K... more than I expected for "Echo", since "Strangers From Paradise" didn't do anything for me

 

Kirayoshi

To paraphrase Bugs Bunny from the cartoon What's Opera Doc, "So what did you expect from Whedon, a happy ending?"

 

Author376

I know that MadR fell into DC, she took me with her.

 

Kirayoshi

I always enjoyed SiP, although it kinda meandered during the last few years.

 

Amokitty

Do you suppose Fraction will give us either??

 

MadR

Oh lord, I was even dumb enough to watch Doctor Horrible and after that I am Done With Whedon. The man's a hack who needs therapy.

 

Amokitty

A happy ending, that is…

 

Kirayoshi

I understand Terry Moore had a specific direction going, but decided to change it after the WTC attack.

 

Xakko

she's british, apparently, but from the "Book of General Ignorance", apparently Napoleon once had to run from hundreds of rabbits hopping at him (at 35 mph)

 

Author376

I am hoping for happy endings, but I am not holding my breath.

 

MadR

376: we were hypnotized by Booster. He's just...so....shiny......

 

Kirayoshi

From Marvel these days, I'd be amazed if they ever produced an ending, happy or otherwise!

 

Author376

Ah! A British Bunny it is then!

 

starsinger

I lost hope with the end of One More Day

 

Kirayoshi

They don't end stories, they just finish one arc and it leads directly to the next.

 

Kirayoshi

OMD, then BND.

 

Xakko

Strangers In Paradise, thanks K... it really didn't work for me

 

Kirayoshi

Or as I like to call it, SSDD.

 

Amokitty

No couple in Marvel aside from Reed and Sue have ever stayed together. It's like that has made into law or something.

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Author376

Guh, I don't know what's with Marvel and DC right now! Too Much Angst!

 

Xakko

hiya turtle!

 

Amokitty

Froggie!!! Welcome! :)

 

MadR

Hiya Turtle!

 

Author376

Oh, hey Turtle!

 

Kirayoshi

Like I said, that's why I prefer the Marvel Adventures titles.

 

theoddlittleturtle

hi!

 

Kirayoshi

Self-contained, done in one and, in the case of Avengers, screamingly funny.

 

MadR

The marvel adventure titles are the best ones out there.

 

starsinger

hey turtle

 

Author376

The Adventures titles are better, but I'm still burnt out right now.

 

theoddlittleturtle

*waves*

 

MadR

Light, single issue story, and no angst.

 

Kirayoshi

They had Galactus playing baseball! How cool is that?

 

Amokitty

Too bad Wolverine first class can't match the Marvel kids' titles in quality!

 

Author376

Wonderfully cool.

 

Kirayoshi

"He's pointing to Arcturus, Giant Girl. Go way back!"

 

Amokitty

:D

 

Author376

I'm sad about Wolverine First Class. I don't even know how they end up with so many continuety errors.

 

Author376

Way, way, back!

 

J_Harper

Manley Wade Wellman once wrote a horror story called The Dreadful Rabbits...

 

Kirayoshi

The latest issue had Thor dating Ororo while the rest of the team tries to keep Odin from finding out.

 

MadR

Because the writers don't read back issues as obsessively as fen.

 

J_Harper

Continuity? What's continuity?

 

theoddlittleturtle

lol

 

Xakko

because the continuity errors are about Kitty, not so much about Wolverine. tho' some of those exist too

 

Author376

Hee, Odin having a cow would be a terrible and funny ting to watch.

 

Amokitty

Are the rabbits rabid, or something? ;)

 

starsinger

I don't think those writers would know continuity if it got up and bit them

 

J_Harper

Marvel doesn't care, and DC is too obsessed with it.

 

J_Harper

Two extremes.

 

Kirayoshi

"Hey, Odin, you were right, Logan is a troll!"

 

MadR

Snort, the scene with Odin at the restaurant was cute. On scans daily.

 

Author376

It could bite them. If it were a rabbit.

 

starsinger

I got licked by a cow!

 

Xakko

no, they were tame. they'd been brought in to be hunted, but instead, they thought Napoleon was the guy that fed them. rabbits can be VERY insistent about suppertime

 

J_Harper

Can't remember. Something about a curse, or a pact with rabbit ancestral spirits. Wasn't one of Wellman's better stories.

 

Author376

You're right about the extremes. They really need to learn balanace, DC and Marvel.

 

Amokitty

Van Lente screwing up Kitty's powers this issue is a BIG mistake that can't be overlooked. The editors are sucking as usual.

 

Kirayoshi

Meanwhile, Marvel's finally cancelling Spider-Girl, for real this time.

 

Kirayoshi

What did Van Lente do? I missed it.

 

J_Harper

It's had a good run. Well over a hundred issues, right?

 

MadR

brb

 

theoddlittleturtle

i must have missed it too

 

J_Harper

Really can't complain, considering it has always been on the cusp of cancellation.

 

J_Harper

Lot of good books don't get that much. Orion only got 25. The new Thing series only got, what, 8?

 

Author376

Point, but all of the Marvel news has been so "down" lately, it's just depressing.

 

Amokitty

Van Lente had Kitty phasing Peter to the nuclear core. She couldn't phase anyone but herself as Sprite. She only phased another person for the first time in Uncanny #174.

 

Kirayoshi

I have one bias against the MC2 continuity, and that is that the Human Torch is still married to Lyja.

 

Xakko

8, yes.

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Kirayoshi

Whoa, time warp!

 

Author376

Can't make your mind up!

 

theoddlittleturtle

oy...what happened?

 

J_Harper

Orion was an excellent book. I heard Thing was very good, but didn't really get into it.

 

starsinger

OH, Xakko, loved the ending ]of bom!

 

Author376

Yes, GREAT ENDING!

 

Kirayoshi

In UXM #168 she did phase a weight with her in one scene.

 

Amokitty

Turtle: you need to keep the Java open to continue chatting. :)

 

theoddlittleturtle

it was... i think...

 

Amokitty

Sorry, Java PAGE open.

 

theoddlittleturtle

noob... sorry

 

MadR

Haven't read the BoM update, saving it for tomorrow: but don't mind discussing spoilers.

 

Amokitty

Don't worry, these things happen a lot! :)

 

Xakko

thanks, star!

 

theoddlittleturtle

oh good... i'm not the only one then??

 

Author376

Nope, it does it to everyone.

 

Amokitty

BoM had the ending that we all wish could happen in 616.

 

starsinger

knee, kiss, Illyana getting in on the act! Loved it!

 

theoddlittleturtle

oh good

 

Kirayoshi

I want to see a Marvel Adventures X-Men title.

 

Author376

Yep, 616, Xakko has pawned your ending.

 

Kirayoshi

Maybe now that X-Men First Class has run its course they can go that route.

 

Author376

His is just better.

 

starsinger

author, did you like what I had Logan do to Warren?

 

Author376

That would be nice.

 

Xakko

I still hate the Darkchilde simulacrum they're hawking now.

 

J_Harper

Does anyone read the Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction? Lucus Shepherd had a review of Iron Man in the double-sized issue. I skimmed it, didn't read it in detail, and got the impression that he's finally gone off the deep end.

 

MadR

Did they cancel X Men First Class? I know the LJ comm for it completely fell over dead.

 

Amokitty

A whole New World wrapped up everything pretty neatly too. Warren went DOWN! ;)

 

Author376

Heh, taking control away from Warren was probably the best punishment, Starsinger, and it was original.

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Kirayoshi

There was a XFC special this week, and a mini in a few months called "Final Grade", but apart from that, stick a fork in it.

 

theoddlittleturtle

ergh...

 

Xakko

X-Men: First Class is going back to at least one more mini. After Weapon X: First Class

 

Author376

Turtle: the chat is making fun of you!

 

theoddlittleturtle

should i be worried??

 

Author376

Okay, one more mini, then.

 

Amokitty

X-Men First Class has been reduced to occasional specials only. So we'll get to see it maybe a couple of times a year. I'm betting the same thing happens to Wolverine First Class.

 

Kirayoshi

I suspect that Wolverine First Class will be next on the chopping block.

 

Author376

Nope, it does that to everyone! It's just decided to pick on you today. It's usually booting Xakko off, acutally.

 

MadR

Oh, too bad. XFC was adorable. I've got the first trade. I should have known since noones posted about it for months.

 

starsinger

Thank you, I'm kinda working on story that's a "9 Year old Rasputin twins go to Summer camp." X-men meat Meatballs

 

Amokitty

Nah! Like I said, Turtle. It happens sometimes, but it's no big deal. ;)

 

Xakko

I could see MA: X-men being pretty good, only I worry it'll be MA: Wolverine and the X-men

 

starsinger

It had me last time

 

Kirayoshi

Which may be good news, in that if that title dies, we may have the REAL Kitty Pryde back in the MU!

 

Author376

Ooh, that will be fun! I've always wanted to write a short about Piotr having to deal with his daughter/Illyana's first date/crush. He'd spaz.

 

Amokitty

Meatballs!!! OMG! Fantastic! I loved that movie!

 

theoddlittleturtle

heh... i'm having trouble keepin up... lol

 

Kirayoshi

Has anyone seen that new X-Men cartoon yet?

 

MadR

Starsinger: that sounds hysterical!

 

theoddlittleturtle

nope

 

starsinger

ty!

 

Author376

Yep, check for Amokitty's posts of it! She's been nice enough to supply us with the new Wolverine and the X-Men cartoon here.

 

MadR

Wolverine and the X Men? uh-huh. Not terrible....

 

starsinger

I'm still trying to comprehend our having earthquakes around here, we don't have earthquakes

 

theoddlittleturtle

earthquakes?

 

MadR

earthquakes in texas? o.O

 

Kirayoshi

I've got a few scenes in my mind for later chapters in But Not Forgotten myself.

 

starsinger

my thoughts exactly

 

Author376

We had one in Kentucky a few months ago... People seem to foget that the fault line we've got makes California look sissy. Last time it went off they felt it in London.

 

Amokitty

I have to stop occasionally and carefully read everything Turtle. It moves a little fast for me!

 

Author376

Oooh, can't wait for But Not Forgotten (but will )

 

Kirayoshi

One where Magneto confronts a Shi'ar guard about to torture Polaris.

 

theoddlittleturtle

i didn't feel it... i live in sc ky

 

MadR

Wolverine and the X Men cartoon: no kiotr at all. Piotr's back in Russia.

 

Kirayoshi

"You stand between me and my daugter. There is no more dangerous place in the universe."

 

Author376

That will be great, watching Magneto get an angry dad moment.

 

Kirayoshi

Awww...

 

Author376

Yep, awww, and Magneto gets to harm people!

 

Kirayoshi

Does it follow X-Men Evo in continuity?

 

Amokitty

Some of us here have seen Wolverine and the X-Men, K. It's okay, so far. Some hits and misses, but not too bad.

 

Author376

Who deserve it.

 

Author376

I don't thin kit's related to Evo.

 

Kirayoshi

No Lance?

 

theoddlittleturtle

yeah, amo... hopefully, noone's directed too much my way while i'm typing...

 

Author376

Oops, type. Nope, no Lance. Avalanche, yep, Lance Alvers/Kitty, no!

 

Kirayoshi

Well, that's some consolation.

 

Kirayoshi

Never bought those two as a couple

 

starsinger

My mom's dog (wire haired dachsund) is proving spasdic tonight, fave squeaky toy is proving no opponent

 

Kirayoshi

More of a Buffy/Spike thing.

 

Amokitty

No Evo continuity AT ALL. This is a whole new ball of wax, but the animation is very similar.

 

Xakko

Avalanche is definitely more his comic incarnation, and Toad like the Ultimate version

 

MadR

And the bubble hair. What is with the bubble hair on this toon?

 

Amokitty

Kitty is barely in this new series. *sigh*

 

Kirayoshi

Figures.

 

Author376

I'm holding out hopes for Kiotr, later, though. Maybe next season if the show sticks. There was flirting in the pilot!

 

Xakko

I think Rogue is fairly Evo, and the Jean/Scott had shades of it. Logan very much so

 

theoddlittleturtle

so when's this supposed to be hitting us? next spring or so?

 

Amokitty

The pilot had some definite flirting going on! And Colossus' voice was teh sexy!

 

Kirayoshi

Lance Alvers reminded me more of Richtor than Avalanche anyway.

 

Author376

Oh, goodness, yes, Piotr's voice was melt-worthy!

 

MadR

Sometime next spring, but since Nicktoons scheduled by monkeys, who knows?

 

Kirayoshi

As long as he didn't talk like Boris Badenov!

 

Author376

Drunken monkeys, MadR!

 

Amokitty

It's officially coming to the US in March - supposedly.

 

Kirayoshi

Considering how they botched Avatar's scheduling.

 

starsinger

"What is this moose and squirrel?"

 

Author376

Yep, Moose and Squirrel can live on unmolested :)

 

theoddlittleturtle

ah, now there's an image that won't soon leave... ;)

 

MadR

Given what they did with Avatar, I'm not sure I trust WATXM to be on when they say it will.

 

Author376

Heh, I see someone is going for the new usage of that word!

 

Amokitty

No, K. For once they got his voice right! He sounded like he should! Amazing, I know.

 

Kirayoshi

I'm still concerned about this live Avatar movie trilogy they've got planned.

 

MadR

Oh yes, the voice actors have all been very good!

 

Author376

The movie trilogy does have me worried... Is it live action or what, for avatar?

 

starsinger

btw, my mom's b-day is today

 

MadR

M.Night Shamalayan doing Avatar....oy.

 

Author376

Tell her happy birthday.

 

Kirayoshi

I second that 'oy'.

 

Amokitty

Happy birthday, Starsinger's MOM! :D

 

Xakko

many happy returns to her, star!

 

Author376

Shamalayan... *screams in terror for the fun of the once great series*... On noes...

 

J_Harper

He's too young to have had the brain eater get him... Wonder what happened to his talent?

 

MadR

Happy birthday to her from us all.

 

theoddlittleturtle

oh, yes, happy birthday starsingers mom

 

Kirayoshi

Y'know who should direct an Avatar movie? Robert Rodriguez.

 

J_Harper

Happy birthday.

 

Author376

Ooh, that would be neat!

 

Amokitty

What? Shaymalan is doing Avatar? really?

 

starsinger

that man needs to keep his hands off Avatar. Mom says thank you!

 

Kirayoshi

Scary, huh?

 

MadR

While I'd love to have some of the trailing plot threads from Avatar answered URSA I'm not sure he's the one to do it.

 

Amokitty

*waves to Star's mom* HI!

 

Xakko

I think I saw something about that on AICN... but not in a thread specifically about it

 

Author376

*waves as well*

 

MadR

The latest Zutaran/Kataang wank has been hilarious, though.

 

Kirayoshi

Shamalayan-a-ding-dong needs to prove he can do a movie without trying to be the second coming of Rod Serling before I'll be convinced he can do Avatar.

 

starsinger

Shamalan's "The Happening" was voted as one of the least scary movies of all time

 

J_Harper

Slight X-Men connected thing. Brian Ratner, or whatever his name is, is going to be directing the new Conan movie. Everyone on my Howard list has given up seeing a Conan movie comparable to LOTR in fidelity and intelligence for the next twenty years.

 

Author376

I'm aweful, I like Zutara, but I really wish that some of those 13 year olds had beta's... and maybe english teachers interested in them enough to guide them a little.

 

Kirayoshi

No faith in Ratner, J?

 

Kirayoshi

I don't blame ya.

 

Xakko

that's right, it was in the interview with Jon Favreau... James Cameron is producing, then?

 

Author376

No blame here, either.

 

MadR

Someone saw Dante Brasco, who v/o Zuko, at a con, and got him to tape saying he never loved Mai, asking Katara to be his Firelady...the canon fangirls had a meltdown.

 

Amokitty

Oh no! Ratner's doing Conan now? Everybody in Hyboria needs to get scared!

 

J_Harper

None at all. Howard properties can't catch a break. Solomon Kane doesn't sound much better, either.

 

Kirayoshi

Hey, I want to see the Thor movie by Kenneth Branaugh.

 

Author376

Ha!!! Go Brasco:)

 

Author376

Oh, yes, Thor movie is a must, though production seems to be going slow.

 

Kirayoshi

Hey, Jer, you see that new western Appaloosa yet?

 

MadR

Gotta heart actors willing to provide fanservice.

 

Amokitty

No way! Branaugh is doing Thor??! *squeals in happy fangirl delight*

 

Kirayoshi

They got a director now, that's progress.

 

Author376

Yes, you do, MadR

 

Author376

Yes, the director is good, he's shakespearian, and gives me hope.

 

J_Harper

I may give it a chance, though. We'll see. Supposedly they are going to make a Bran Mak Morn movie, though I doubt they'll get anyone to do justice to the character, or the probable story a movie will be based on, Worms of the Earth, which is perhaps Howard's best fantasy/horror story.

 

MadR

I like Branaugh, and he might be able to do a Thor movie right.

 

Kirayoshi

I see Karl Urban as Thor.

 

Author376

I just like seeing Karl Urban...

 

Amokitty

I'm not Jeremy, but I saw Appaloosa last month. Viggo is understated and STILL hot!

 

MadR

Can't be worse than the 80's Governator version, though, right?

 

Author376

He's nice to look at :)

 

Kirayoshi

I was curious if Jer had seen it because it's based on a novel by the guy who created Spencer.

 

Author376

Viggo owns every movie he is in, it's wonderful to see a good looking actor who can actually ACT!

 

Kirayoshi

One of his favorite characters, if memory serves.

 

J_Harper

Yeah, saw it last Saturday on my birthday with my buddy Joe. Liked it a lot. Could tell it was based on a Parker book. The dialogue had his style and candances, and the characters were definitely his usual.

 

MadR

Robert B Parker? I didn't know that. I'll have to put Appaloosa on my list.

 

theoddlittleturtle

Urban is yummie... so's viggo...

 

Amokitty

I wondering the same thing,K. I know what a fan of Robert Parker's Jeremy is. :)

 

J_Harper

Filthy, quick gunfight.

 

Amokitty

They have that same look, don't they Turtle?

 

theoddlittleturtle

*drools*

 

theoddlittleturtle

heh

 

Author376

They've got an *air* about them.

 

J_Harper

Very good. Whole audience laughed at the line after the gunfight. "They could shoot."

 

Kirayoshi

Hmm, since it's Brannaugh directing, they'll have to get Brian Blessed in there somewhere.

 

J_Harper

It was a pleasure seeing a movie where the audience was all adults, as well.

 

Kirayoshi

Either as Odin or Volstagg.

 

theoddlittleturtle

i'll fallow if they just include me in the "air"

 

starsinger

Well, unfortunately, my mom needs to go to bed and the computer is in her room. I will see ya'll later! Good night!

 

Kirayoshi

Aw, already?

 

theoddlittleturtle

ack follow

 

MadR

G'nite Star

 

Author376

Good night!

 

Kirayoshi

Later

 

theoddlittleturtle

night

 

Author376

I'd follow too..

 

J_Harper

Got the new Spenser novel. Don't know why I bothered, since I can burn through one in three hours, and they haven't been that great in quite a while.

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J_Harper

G' night.

 

MadR

Brian Blessed is perfect for Volstagg.

 

Xakko

g'nite star

 

J_Harper

Missed her.

 

Amokitty

I thought Zellweger was the weakest thing about the movie.

 

Xakko

darnit!

 

Amokitty

Jeremy! You're leaving so soon?

 

Kirayoshi

Most classic westerns, it's about the two guys.

 

Amokitty

Wait, who left?

 

Amokitty

Me am slow at reading...

 

J_Harper

I don't think the script did her any favors, since she was playing one of Parker's weak woman types.

 

theoddlittleturtle

starsinger

 

Kirayoshi

I think J was saying goodbuy to Star.

 

MadR

Nods, Parker's kind of jumped the shark with the Spenser novels a while ago.

 

J_Harper

I'm still here for now.

 

J_Harper

Yeah.

 

Amokitty

I hope Star makes it back. :)

 

Kirayoshi

How about Anthony Head as Loki?

 

Author376

She said she had to go to let her mother sleep, so I think star's gone for the night.

 

J_Harper

The Jesse Stone novels can be good, but I didn't like the last one when he brought back Crow.

 

Author376

Ooh, I can totally see Anthony Head as Loki.

 

Author376

He'll have to own Loki, though, after Ledger's joker.

 

Amokitty

A very belated goodnight, Star. And thank you for coming! :)

 

Kirayoshi

Ledger's Joker will be tough to beat.

 

MadR

Anthony Head's busy with Merlin, playing Uther Pendragon right now.

 

Author376

Well, there goes that idea.

 

Kirayoshi

I'll have to catch that when it's on BBC America.

 

Kirayoshi

Hmm..possible Loki's...

 

J_Harper

Anthony Head? Was he Giles on Buffy?

 

MadR

Oh, yeah, lot of fan chatter about Joker and whether they'd recast or something. Lot of disappointed fans who wanted Harley Quinn.

 

Amokitty

Yep!

 

Kirayoshi

Chistopher Ecclestone?

 

J_Harper

Ah.

 

MadR

He might be out of the series by the time filming started on Thor, though.

 

Author376

It'd be nice to see Harley, but recasting just wouldn't cut it after that preformance.

 

Author376

You're right, there is still hope for Loki.

 

J_Harper

Found out that he's the younger brother of they singer who wrote and sang One Night In Bangkok. Funny what facts you run across on the 'Net.

 

MadR

David Tennant will be free soon.....

 

Kirayoshi

Head also did a run in that role, from the musical 'Chess'.

 

Amokitty

Yeah! He's the brother of Murrey Head! that tickled me!

 

Kirayoshi

He also played Dr. Frank N. Furter on the stage version of Rocky Horror.

 

Xakko

I saw that, Rose - not coming back for 2010

 

J_Harper

heh.

 

MadR

There's a bit of a family resemblance there, too, dunno why we never noticed.

 

Kirayoshi

You can find a clip of him singing Sweet Transvestite on YouTube. For my money he kicked Tim Curry's butt on that track!

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MadR

Doctor Who fandom's having an aneurysm over it...even though switching Doctors regularly is the freaking premise.

 

J_Harper

So, has anyone found out why Wolverine is going to throw the Hulk at Peter next year?

 

Kirayoshi

Was it something I said?

 

MadR

Ha, your turn to bounce!

 

Author376

Oops, cat stole my wireless mouse!

 

Author376

I got it back though!

 

Xakko

heh... animal problems abound!

 

Kirayoshi

Last I heard they're considering a black actor to replace Tennant.

 

Author376

Hey, my cat is sneaky... I never should have named her Pirate.

 

MadR

Because Wolverine's a jerk!

 

theoddlittleturtle

what a great name

 

Author376

Because when the writers can't figure out what else to do they beat up on Kitty or Piotr.

 

MadR

Pirate....kitty. okay, you win the universe.

 

Xakko

I saw that, K. though someone suggested Tilda Swinton, which would be interesting. Also Daniel Radcliffe...

 

Kirayoshi

Spefically Patterson Joseph, who played the Marquis de Carabas in the mini Neverwhere.

 

Amokitty

So far Jeremy, it's looking like Marvel has finally used one of Claremont's old unpublished stories. It may take place in the past.

 

Xakko

I still need to see that. I've read the book and comic and liked both

 

Kirayoshi

Actually, if you ever saw Neverwhere, Joseph would be a dynamite Doctor!

 

Author376

I actually named her that because she had a black patch over her eye, but she grew out of it... It actually really fits because she's this tiny 8 pound cat that the other cats live in total fear of.

 

J_Harper

I love Peter, think he's a lot better of a fighter than he usually gets portrayed as, but even I won't say he has a prayer. My Piotr Black Sun, maybe, but not mainstream Peter.

 

Amokitty

Pirate Kitty. 8dies8

 

MadR

Aw, she sounds adorable!

 

Author376

She is, though now she's eyeing the blinds... BRB.

 

MadR

brb

 

Author376

Okay, Pirate Kitty has been exiled to the hallway to terrorize the other kitties.

 

Kirayoshi

My theory is that that X-Men/Hulk thing is set just after Piotr met Pete Wisdom.

 

Amokitty

Why they're doing another Logan needs to punish Peter story scares me. I mean, why?? Claremont already wrote this story over 20 years ago. I hate it when writers start beating on dead horses.

 

Xakko

that'd be appropriate.

 

Author376

Oh! If it was set right after the Wisdom thing it would make some sense, but poor Piotr was a bit out of it, so it hardly seems fair.

 

theoddlittleturtle

is there anything that's going on in hulk?

 

Xakko

dunno, not reading the title. they really blew the fight in WWH:X_men

 

Kirayoshi

Wasn't it officially retconned that he was suffering from brain damage during that period, when he first joined Magneto's Acolytes?

 

Amokitty

K: Yes indeed.

 

Xakko

that wasn't a retcon- but the damage was healed BEFORE #92

 

Kirayoshi

I don't know how I feel about that.

 

Xakko

in #71, actually, I believe

 

J_Harper

Well, if it's set in the hear and now, I can't think of any reason that would make sense for Wolverine to do something like that.

 

theoddlittleturtle

or its just an advertising ploy

 

J_Harper

Oh well.

 

Author376

I guess we'll have to wait and see what the writers are up to.

 

Author376

Hmm, good poin on the ploy thing.

 

theoddlittleturtle

like the whole redhead in uxm

 

Author376

Even if it's real it could be a bad writing ploy.

 

Kirayoshi

Wasn't the damage dealt with at the end of the Fatal Attraction arc?

 

theoddlittleturtle

lol

 

Xakko

yes, K

 

theoddlittleturtle

yeah, but he went back with the magneto anyway

 

J_Harper

Not like I'm going to pick it up. Probably won't go back until Joey da Q is gone, even though that may take years. He seems firmly esconced in the eic chair.

 

Xakko

he honored his commitment, specifically to be a voice of moderation

 

J_Harper

He did it because he gave Exodus his word, and wanted to reform the Acolytes.

 

Xakko

and he was pretty subversive in the scenes, defending an Acolyte put on trial by Exodus and stuff

 

theoddlittleturtle

yeah... but... but... oh well

 

Kirayoshi

Which didn't work, IIRC.

 

J_Harper

And had lost most of his faith in Xavier's dream.

 

J_Harper

Still, his character evolved because of it.

 

Kirayoshi

Pretty much everyone has now.

 

Amokitty

Even if it is set in the past, there's no excuse for Logan to take it upon himself to teach Peter a lesson. This presents Peter in a light that makes it seem like he's a child in need of scolding or something. It's silly. It worked in 1984 because Peter was still a teen in need of some guidance.

 

theoddlittleturtle

which i thought was weird because xavier's dream was supposed to be for peace

 

Author376

As poorly handled as the writing's been, the dream is easy to loose faith in. I halfway want to see someone else start a new X-Men team away from Scott and Xavier and Emma...

 

Xakko

well, then Holocaust blew up Avalon, and he ended up rescuing Magneto, being rescued in the Arctic...

 

J_Harper

At least until Ellis got a hold of him. :( But I've beat that horse so much, there's no flesh left on it's poor, dead bones.

 

Author376

Hmmm, story idea? Kitty and Piotr get back, Hank goes with them, new school...

 

Kirayoshi

How's this for a big crossover: CIvil War X.

 

theoddlittleturtle

can we have some cable too??

 

theoddlittleturtle

yum

 

Author376

Cable's good...

 

Author376

Don't know what I'd do with him, though

 

Xakko

I still think it would work post Exc 92 - partly because Piotr was beating himself up over it, and it might help

 

Kirayoshi

Xavier, Scott and Ororo fight over the direction of the team, and by the end of the series, the rest of the team tells them to get over themselves!

 

theoddlittleturtle

give him a baby.. lol

 

Author376

Gigglesnort!

 

Xakko

LWW assumed that was what Marvel was setting up, K - maybe after "War of the Kings"?

 

theoddlittleturtle

or twins...

 

Author376

That would be interesting, the big fight over the team, and then none of the big members gets it. I'd love to see an X-Team run by Hank...

 

Xakko

Almost like they've pulled out the notes on CC's "Summers' Rebellion" and are going with that.

 

theoddlittleturtle

oh that would be cool too

 

Xakko

just as they went and did CC's "Dark Wolverine Sage" as "Enemy of the State"

 

Xakko

brb

 

Author376

Well, Hank's logical and a sweet heart, he'd be a good leader, and less inclined to the over-training that seems to lead to a nearly brain-washed Scott in some angles.

 

Amokitty

I think writers steal ideas right and left. They're profiting from Claremont's work. There are also instances where I'd SWEAR they read fanfiction.

 

Kirayoshi

Na, if they did, Kitty would be out of the bullet and married to Piotr by now.

 

Kirayoshi

::laugh

 

theoddlittleturtle

oh they definitely do... under anonymous names like newyorknewyork1234

 

Author376

I bet you they live to read fanfic, and they WRITE it secretly as well, just to get all the ideas out that their supervisors nix.

 

MadR

bak

 

Author376

Who knows, maybe some of the nice fanfic where they're married with kids is written by some of these guys?

 

Amokitty

Hey, if they could be influenced by GOOD fanfiction, then yeah. But there's far more bad fanfiction out there, and few of Marvel's writers are looking particularly bright these days. :P

 

Author376

Internet = anonymity

 

MadR

Well, we know Gail Simone and Warren Ellis hang out on Scans daily....facepalm.

 

Author376

If they were stealing from the bad fanfic, that would expain everything!!!

 

theoddlittleturtle

o.O

 

J_Harper

You know, Amokitty, I read a recent interview with Wendy Pini, and she said the problem with comics today is that the current batch of writers just read comics and can't draw from personal experience and other literary sources, which makes for a shallow, repetitive experience for readers.

 

Author376

"Hey, look, a half illiterate 12 year old wrote it, it must be good!"

 

Kirayoshi

Interesting theory.

 

Kirayoshi

You may be onto something.

 

Author376

BRB

 

J_Harper

As one of the most important comic creators of modern times, she's worth listening to.

 

Kirayoshi

Here here.

 

Amokitty

That's a great point, Jeremy. And it figures. I love Wendy and Richard Pini. Today's writers are the kids who collected comics 20 years ago. Maybe they should've joined the Peace Corps? Heh, heh.

 

J_Harper

Did you know, when she was first making it big with Elfquest, Jim Starlin walked up to her and said bluntly, 'I hate you.' ?

 

Author376

*sighs* Pirate locked herself in the pantry trying to get into the cereal. Let her out.

 

Kirayoshi

Unfortunately, Marvel's EIC is one of those kids, and thinks that Spider-Man, at least, should always be written that way.

 

Xakko

really? wow

 

J_Harper

She talks about it in the interview. I'm not sure if it was because of sexism, or because she was making a lot of money and not tied to a work for hire publishing house.

 

Author376

I agree with the take on comics writers, they started out as very imaginative people, but now they're a little too bogged down in the genre.

 

Xakko

did he hate it when the X-team threw all the Elfquest references in there?

 

Amokitty

Nuh-uh!! Get out! Starlin said that to her?!! Holy crap.

 

J_Harper

And Starlin was jealous.

 

MadR

Oh I still think Queseda's taking his midlife crisis out on Peter.

 

J_Harper

Yeah. Another creator did the same thing, but I can't remember who.

 

Author376

Oh, the midlife crisis angle makes sense!

 

Kirayoshi

I know that Kurt Busiek and Scott McCloud were friends in high school.

 

Amokitty

Are these men threatened by women in the business??

 

Xakko

how are sales right now? anyone follow those?

 

Author376

They probably are terrified of women in the business. It's been their private playground and they're afraid that they are going to have to 'behave' now.

 

J_Harper

Maybe. It is a very masculine industry. I think that's why Wendy is a lot more comfortable in the world of manga, where there is a far better gender balance.

 

theoddlittleturtle

that makes sense

 

Kirayoshi

I know that DC dropped its licencing deal with the Pinis.

 

Amokitty

Wow. Talk about little boys who never grew up... I'm shocked.

 

Author376

I don't mean that as something against men in general, just in certain situations. Mainly because people tend to forget that women like comics how they are, if they like them, and don't want to change them.

 

J_Harper

But also it could be jealous. She and her husband were making a lot of money in an industry where most of the great writers and artists were being paid very shitty wages and got no royalties or benefits.

 

MadR

They are not very happy about fangirls arguing about gender issues in comics, thats ferdamnsure.

 

Kirayoshi

They had been publishing the older Elfquest books for awhile.

 

J_Harper

Jealousy.

 

J_Harper

Don't know what happened with that.

 

Amokitty

Women in Fridges. Poor things.

 

MadR

The whole Steph Was Not A Robin thing.

 

Author376

Jealousy probably does make more sense, but fear often comes from jealousy. The thought that they're *better* and might take over.

 

theoddlittleturtle

worked with someone like that.. not fun

 

Kirayoshi

I read a bio of William Mouldon Marsden, the guy who created w

 

Kirayoshi

Wonder Woman

 

J_Harper

Anyhow, all I know is her new, non-Elfquest story, Masque of the Red Death, is very good, and very different. I'm not quite that comfortable with the gay sex, but the themes and power of the story carry me past my discomfort.

 

Kirayoshi

At 22, he discovered the systolic blood test that led to the invention of the polygraph test.

 

Kirayoshi

His experiments with polygraphs led him to believe that women were inherently more honest and forthright than men.

 

MadR

Nods, and that inspired the lasso that makes people tell the truth.

 

Amokitty

I was thinking of getting that Jeremy. You've got me sold now. :)

 

Author376

I've got a classmate whose a middle-aged housewife who just decided she wanted to go back to school to learn to teach. She resents the younger students and when she isn't lecturing us she's making fun of us or something, but she's obviously just threatened by being around women half her age all day. We've got other female students who are older who are really rocks to us when we're trying to learn, and they teach us a lot, but she's frightened and nasty all the time. I imagine comic writers can be like that too.

 

Kirayoshi

He and his wife also lived with another woman in a menage-a-tois ting.

 

Kirayoshi

thing

 

Author376

Well, if no one is getting hurt, then that just makes life more interesting!

 

MadR

Yep, and he was into bondage too, which was why early WW lost her powers if she was held captive.

 

Author376

Now that makes life a LOT more interesting :)

 

Amokitty

Insecurity definitely can make people lash out, 376. Sorry you have to deal with it.

 

MadR

You can see why Latham >spelling? had his followers saying comics were preverting children.

 

Kirayoshi

IIRC, he modeled Wonder Woman as an amalgam of both his wife and their lover.

 

Author376

I don't really dislike her as much as I feel sorry for her.

 

theoddlittleturtle

now that make ww much more interesting... heh

 

Author376

and for the kids she's going to teach.

 

MadR

376: Us versus Them syndrome again, sigh.

 

Amokitty

At least she won't feel threatened by children. ;)

 

J_Harper

Heh. It is very good, and if aging male sf and fantasy writers tend to indulge in their kinks in their dotage, why not the female ones? ;)

 

Amokitty

Fair IS fair... ;)

 

Kirayoshi

I think his name was Wortham, Mad.

 

Author376

Everyone should be as kinky as they like! it's a free country, mostly :/

 

MadR

Wortham, right. The guy who led the crusade against comics.

 

Kirayoshi

"Seduction of the Innocent", yeah, that hack.

 

theoddlittleturtle

just not in public please... lol

 

Amokitty

:D

 

Author376

::laugh

 

Author376

Turtle for the Win!

 

Kirayoshi

I've always said, if you're opposed ot gay marriage, don't have one.

 

Xakko

I dunno. I saw this on one of my friends journals, and I'm of mixed feelings of it... how would you explain to your three year old what "Zack and Miri Make a Porno" means

 

theoddlittleturtle

:)

 

J_Harper

Basically, Wertham was saying to the parents of American, when he wrote Seduction, 'it's not your fault your child is a semi-literate thug. It's these nasty comic books!'

 

Amokitty

Kevin smith wouldn't be Kevin smith if he couldn't push an envelope.

 

J_Harper

Bleah.

 

Kirayoshi

Which led to the Comics Code Authority.

 

Kirayoshi

You ever read Frank Miller's speech regarding the CCA?

 

theoddlittleturtle

er... how would the 3 year old know the words if they can't read them?

 

MadR

Well, there's explaining away the title to a kid....and there's taking the kid to see the movie itself. And you know there are morons who'll try that.

 

Author376

I don't mind rules about warnings and labels on the net and other places, but as a teacher it really all comes down to supervision with children, because the naughtier it is the more easily they seem to find it for some reason.

 

J_Harper

My friend is getting interested in Young Avengers. I thought that was a good series. Are they doing anything with the characters now?

 

Xakko

well, the lj was complaining that they've had to shorten it to "Zack and Miri" in some of the public advertising.

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MadR

Radio and tv commercials saying it, Turtle

 

J_Harper

Heard Stature joined Iron Man's team in Civil War, which disappointed me.

 

Kirayoshi

I hear that the YA are set to return next year, after this Dark Reign arc.

 

Author376

Hello DB!

 

db91939

hey there kids

 

Amokitty

Darkbat!! Hi there! :)

 

MadR

Hiya!

 

Xakko

some of the Young Avengers are getting promoted to the big team, based on early sketches for Slott's Mighty Avengers lineup

 

J_Harper

Original writer, whatshisname, from the OC coming back to it?

 

Xakko

Stature and Vision, at least

 

Kirayoshi

Yo ::tips his hat::

 

J_Harper

Hello.

 

theoddlittleturtle

ah.. i don't have children so it never even occurred to me... wow..

 

Xakko

hiya DB!

 

theoddlittleturtle

hi db!

 

db91939

how was all of your halloweens?

 

Author376

Ooh, speaking of Avengers, can't wait for that and the Captain America movie!!!

 

Kirayoshi

That same pic also has Scarlett Witch, and I don't see her joining any team any time soon.

 

Author376

Halloween was pleasant, we had an adorable little boy dressed as Prince Zuko.

 

Amokitty

My Halloween was busy for a change!

 

Kirayoshi

Are they casting the Cap movie yet?

 

db91939

busy?

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Xakko

they'd almost have to, wouldn't they? t

 

Amokitty

We had a bunch of kids this year, DB.

 

Xakko

hi DS!

 

MadR

I still think Matt Keeslar from The Middleman would be a great Captain America.

 

Author376

I don't know if they're casting, but I've heard it's going to be an origin move drawn from that new Origin comic with all of the WW2, Cap in his element, goodness.

 

db91939

fun

 

Amokitty

Darkstorm! Yay!! Good to see you! :D

 

darkstorm5000

Hi everybody!

 

Author376

Hi Darkstorm!

 

db91939

oh man.... this woman wants to get 38 KKK breast implants

 

Kirayoshi

The gang's all here!

 

Author376

You need bigger boobs?

 

MadR

Blond, square jawed, looks great in an eisenhower jacket....

 

theoddlittleturtle

i heard that they hadn't even started scripting cap movie yet...

 

Amokitty

Yeah. And I'm really happy about that, K. Ya'll made it!

 

Kirayoshi

They'll do the Cap movie in WWII, ending it with his being stuck in the ice

 

Author376

Oh, yes!

 

db91939

right now she's like... 34 FFF.

 

Author376

Bring on the Eisenhower jacked!

 

Kirayoshi

then the Avengers movie can have him thawed out.

 

theoddlittleturtle

hi dark storm

 

db91939

she wants them to weigh 30 pounds each.

 

db91939

ugh.

 

Author376

And that's not enough?

 

MadR

Heard about the Cap cameo in the Hulk dvd that was cut from the movie?

 

Author376

Why would anyone want those back problems?

 

db91939

exactly

 

Xakko

and restored in the DVD, rose

 

theoddlittleturtle

wait... what??

 

Author376

No, I haven't heard about the cut cameo?

 

db91939

maybe it's because she lives in Texas

 

db91939

"Everything's bigger in Texas"

 

Author376

I've been to Texas, seen the boys, it's a lie.

 

db91939

lol

 

MadR

When David Banner's in antarctica he passes Captain America frozen in the ice.

 

Kirayoshi

Oh, Snap!

 

Xakko

ouch!

 

Author376

Ooh, that's...

 

Author376

Can't speak

 

Author376

Cool!

 

Kirayoshi

I believe the term is 'pwned'!

 

Author376

Totally!

 

Kirayoshi

David Banner?

 

Kirayoshi

That wasn't the Bill Bixby series, Mad!

 

Author376

Bruce Banner?

 

MadR

Maybe he's the Hulk at the time, I haven't seen the movie yet.

 

Kirayoshi

Thank you.

 

db91939

has anybody been watching "Wolverine and the X-men?"

 

Author376

Yep! Thanks to Amokitty! :)

 

Xakko

thanks to Amokitty, yes

 

MadR

Facepalm....yeah, the Bixby series has been rerunning on RetroTV and I latched onto the series name

 

Kirayoshi

I think that you can catch a shot of Cap's shield in Tony Stark's lab at one point in the Iron Man movie.

 

Xakko

it was about the only productive thing I did all week, before Friday

 

Author376

BRB, want to tell my brother about the DVD Cap cameo.

 

Kirayoshi

IIRC it was the scene where Pepper saw Tony being pulled out of his armor.

 

Xakko

I wish Favreau was directing the Avengers movie

 

Kirayoshi

I understand he'll be producing it at least.

 

theoddlittleturtle

brb

 

Author376

I like it, it's like the poster in Ultimate Iron Man with little boy Tony's room, where he has a Cap poster.

 

MadR

Haven't seen Iron Man either, but yeah, there's a scene of the shield on his workbench. Supposedly in the tiein comic that came with one of the DVD sets, his father made the shield for Cap and it was a prototype.

 

Xakko

not really the same.

 

Amokitty

Watching the Wendigo last week on Wolverine and the X-Men had me in stitches, DB. They just copied CC's Uncanny story and animated it!

 

MadR

Wolverine And The X Men has been better than I thought it would be.

 

Kirayoshi

Steven Colbert has that shield on his set for the Colbert Report.

 

Amokitty

brb.

 

theoddlittleturtle

bac

 

Kirayoshi

front

 

Kirayoshi

side

 

db91939

that he does

 

MadR

The Wolverine/Hulk buddy comedy episode!

 

Author376

Hee

 

Kirayoshi

I was watching Elizabeth the other day.

 

Kirayoshi

The Kate Blanchett version.

 

Kirayoshi

Good stuff.

 

Author376

Very good stuff.

 

Author376

The Golden Age was great too.

 

theoddlittleturtle

haven't seen it.. not really into period pieces...

 

Kirayoshi

Oh brother...

 

Amokitty

Back!

 

theoddlittleturtle

though having said that the affair of the necklace was enjoyable

 

Kirayoshi

Cartoon Network has that Doctor Strange cartoon movie on

 

db91939

I haven't seen the Golden Age

 

db91939

was it as good as the first one?

 

Amokitty

I'm curious if anyone has heard of, or seen preview pages for Uncanny #504. It's coming out in less than 2 weeks and I'm nervous as hell about it.

 

Author376

I liked it, but that's my opinion, and it wasn't quite as good as the first one, but still very nice.

 

theoddlittleturtle

haven't seen anything

 

Kirayoshi

I'm expecting to see Piotr mope for 4 issues, and nothing will be changed by the end.

 

MadR

Damn, I've been wanting to see the Doctor Strange movie.

 

Author376

Still hiding in fanfiction.

 

Xakko

Colbert's shield originally commissioned by Mark Gruenwald,

 

theoddlittleturtle

i'm assuming everyone (well, almost everyone) has read 503?

 

MadR

It'll probably be rerun again, though.

 

J_Harper

What's this arc suppose to be about?

 

Kirayoshi

An anti-mutant cult in San Fransisco?

 

db91939

what's in 503?

 

MadR

Don't read comics regularly.

 

theoddlittleturtle

maddie pryor's back

 

db91939

me neither

 

Xakko

:rollseyes

 

Author376

Jean Clone... Oh noes...

 

theoddlittleturtle

interesting s&m implied scene

 

Amokitty

Marvel mentioned that the Kitty issue would be addressed. And there's supposed to be some connection with her and who/whatever Peter is dealing with. I'm really scared, folks. Fraction can not be trusted.

 

db91939

I rely on you guys to alert me to anything relating to our favorite characters

 

Kirayoshi

The solicits said something about a "threat from the old country".

 

Author376

Now I'm scared to. More Kitty/Piotr angst with THEM in charge? BAD.

 

MadR

That psych profile thing really bugged me about Marvel's longterm plans for Piotr.

 

Amokitty

The fact the arc is called "Lovelorn" even scares the crap out of me.

 

theoddlittleturtle

i bought it today because the comic store was having a 20% off sale... can't resist sales... oy... also got the ghost box mini... v. confused now

 

J_Harper

Jesus fucking Christ, Pryor's back?

 

db91939

that psych profile was horrible

 

Author376

the psych plan was not good at all. Lovelorn is a terrible indication

 

Kirayoshi

My prediction: a demon from Eastern European myth will make Piotr an offer; save Kitty in exchange for his soul.

 

J_Harper

I'm about ready to scream.

 

db91939

it was just... ugh, like unbelievable

 

db91939

most of those things a real psychiatrist wouldn't say

 

Author376

Oh God Kirayoshi, you had to be right.

 

MadR

So deeply stupid.

 

Author376

I know you're right.

 

theoddlittleturtle

yup... and emma and scott didn't do anything... scott and maddie did

 

Author376

It sucks.

 

Kirayoshi

I'm praying I'm wrong.

 

Amokitty

Yeah, and Scott kissed Maddie too!

 

darkstorm5000

Brand New Piotr?

 

J_Harper

I could do somethign with that. Hell, Koschei would love a scenario like that.

 

J_Harper

Who's this Fraction?

 

Author376

Actually, Jeremy, you're right!

 

Kirayoshi

Koschei was seen in Hellboy.

 

Author376

You'd right it better anyway.

 

Xakko

he's one of the new up and coming writers

 

J_Harper

What did he use to do?

 

J_Harper

or write?

 

Kirayoshi

Matt Fraction. Currently writing Invincible Iron Man, and is much better there than in X-MEn

 

Xakko

he's been doing a fairly acclaimed job on Iron Man

 

theoddlittleturtle

did he come from DC?

 

MadR

Tie Bloodline into it, Piotr's still carrying a chunk of Rasputin.

 

J_Harper

Hmmm... Never heard of him.

 

Xakko

and also wrote "The Order", about the Californian Initiative team

 

J_Harper

But the, I've been out for a while, and have no respect for most of Marvel's writers, so no big surprise.

 

theoddlittleturtle

the bloodline plot would be interesting...

 

Kirayoshi

My problem currently is that they got some decent writers on the X-books, but none of them are bringing their 'A' game to the franchise.

 

Amokitty

Matt Fraction is the current writer for Uncanny. He has barely written Peter at all. He's been as AWOL as Kitty has. But the one brief time he wrote him, Peter looked like an idiot.

 

Xakko

oh, he did "Five Fists of Science"... we actually have that.

 

theoddlittleturtle

i just hope he doesn't go to the savage land for some reason...

 

MadR

Yup. Only two comic book things I'm excited about are the Batman Brave And The Bold cartoon starting the 14th....

 

MadR

And the Watchmen movie in March.

 

J_Harper

I have a story in mind that, if it were canon, I think would be good for Peter, and add something new to the Marvel Universe, instead of these lame retreads.

 

Author376

Ugh, now I've got a fic idea! Rasputin's soul-lingering-thing offers Piotr HIS ability to save Kitty, ans says there are no strings attached, then it's revealed that he wants to possess the soul of the baby Kitty might be having...

 

Author376

Watchmen!!! Owlman does things for me :)

 

db91939

ooooh!

 

J_Harper

Don't think I'll be able to write it, though. Haven't been able to write anything good in a long time.

 

db91939

a baby

 

theoddlittleturtle

ooh... 376: that would be interesting!

 

MadR

376: Ooh, good plotbunny!

 

Amokitty

New story!! Jeremy, please share!!!

 

Kirayoshi

My new theory; they retconned the end of House of M.

 

theoddlittleturtle

great theory!

 

MadR

Daniel is dreamy! Middle aged, chunky, yet dreamy!

 

Kirayoshi

Instead of "No more mutants", Scarlett Witch said, "No more happy endings".

 

Xakko

howso, K?

 

Xakko

heh!

 

db91939

ha ha

 

theoddlittleturtle

scratch that lol

 

Author376

I love the middle aged chunky look, actually.... admits with a shrug.

 

J_Harper

If you want. I actually posted the start of it on the Kiotr LiveJournal site. Child of Fire.

 

db91939

I miss the old marvel comics

 

Amokitty

Holy cow, 376! That's creepy. And Good!

 

Author376

Yep, saw Child of Fire start, fantastic!

 

Xakko

I'm starting to relate too much to the middle age chunky look

 

db91939

with silly little comics with no purpose other than to be silly and funny

 

Author376

Yep, creepy plotbunny, but not my fault!

 

theoddlittleturtle

me too db, so i bought uxm 168 today

 

Kirayoshi

Oh, that one where Peter leaves the X-teams and becomes a bodyguard or somesuch?

 

Amokitty

Thank you, Jeremy! :)

 

J_Harper

Sometimes I think Moore is nothing but a charlatan, but I must admit that Watchmen is very good, in a soul crushing sort of way.

 

Author376

Then the story becomes about them trying to thwart Rasputin before he can do anything aweful.

 

Author376

awful

 

db91939

I love that issue

 

J_Harper

No, this is a different story.

 

db91939

also the Pirate Kitty issue

 

J_Harper

I'll sketch it out a bit here, if anyone is interested.

 

theoddlittleturtle

i have the classic of that one not the original

 

theoddlittleturtle

i'm interested J

 

MadR

Watchmen is excellent, and deeply depressing. Must have been a hard thing for Moore to follow up on.

 

db91939

you know, I blame little Rogue fans

 

Xakko

I've liked a lot of Moore - the original LoEG, V for Vendetta, Swamp Thing, Whatever happened to the Man of Tomorrow...

 

Author376

Watchman is something you read to cry, not to be happy.

 

Author376

I'm interested too

 

db91939

they get all obsessive over her and love her angst, and they're one of marvel's biggest markets

 

Amokitty

Jeremy, please do!

 

Kirayoshi

Watchmen was a dark story, but in later years, Moore reversed the trend for himself by writing more fun stuff.

 

db91939

so they want to increase sales by pandering to those stupid emo children's love of the angst

 

J_Harper

Okay. It's going to be something of an unpleasant story.

 

Author376

emo kids, sighs.

 

Kirayoshi

Tom Strong, Promethea, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

 

MadR

I've heard he was upset that the comics industry seemed to follow the lead and make more gritty depressing stories.

 

Author376

Bring it on Jeremy! *waits happily*

 

Xakko

Promethea was good too.

 

Kirayoshi

Heck, he took a Leifeld concept and made it good, That's genius!

 

db91939

have you guys seen that Obama attack ad with George bush in the rearview mirrors?

 

MadR

It's still one of the works that gave real weight to the term 'graphic novel'. I find something new every time I read it.

 

db91939

that's the creepiest thing I've ever seen

 

theoddlittleturtle

nope, i've given up on politics

 

Amokitty

Eh, I'm trying to stay away from the political nastiness, DB. It gives me heartburn. :P

 

theoddlittleturtle

to quote 367: fanfiction

 

Xakko

no... we only have the "I'm not George Bush" "True... but you voted with the President over 90% of the time" and the tax one

 

Xakko

Wednesday will be a blissful day

 

db91939

exactly

 

Kirayoshi

Oh hell yeah!

 

MadR

Whatever happens will make history.

 

J_Harper

After the first scene I wrote, Peter drives past this red neck dive. He's in some state south of New Jersey, traveling with no purpose save to forget. As he's driving past the bar, he sees this gang of six men in their early twenties dragging a young girl, maybe 15, around the back of the bar. Peter stops his van and follows them, sees that the six young men are about to gang rape the girl.

 

db91939

I'm going to this bar by my house on Tuesday. They're having dollar long islands and election coverage

 

Xakko

or a day to go lead a revolt against Premier Election Services (FKA Diebold)

 

Amokitty

I cannot WAIT for Tues. to be over!!

 

Author376

Ooh, cool Jeremy!

 

MadR

I get to go to the dentist before I vote. sigh.

 

db91939

I already voted

 

Amokitty

I'm filling out my absentee ballot tomorrow, and then no more politics. No more crap.

 

Kirayoshi

I sent my ballot in.

 

db91939

Yeah, last Sunday I waited in line for 3.5 hours to go see Obama on my campus

 

Author376

I'm voting Tuesday, they're letting us out of class to do it.

 

theoddlittleturtle

i should have absenteed... but i have to stand in line...

 

Author376

I'd skip class if I had to.

 

db91939

it was so crowded, it was amazing. 50,000+ people

 

theoddlittleturtle

looks great jeremy

 

Author376

I don't trust absentee, I was in Florida in 2000, and that was rigged. Plain and Simple.

 

Xakko

I wonder if it'll be bad here. We're a completely blue state, and I've never waited more than 5 minutes

 

Amokitty

Jeremy, that sounds chilling. Wow. And then...??

 

Author376

They had SWAT vans parked in front of the polling places in parts of towns that weren't mostly white.

 

MadR

brb

 

db91939

376, seriously?

 

Author376

Yes. Jeb Bush was governor at the time.

 

J_Harper

Peter stops the rape, beats the everyliving shit out of the six without using his changeform. Asks the girl if she wants him to call the cops. She says no. Asks the girl if she wants him to take her away, she says yes. He tells her to go to his van. While he's walking away, the leader of the young men says that Peter's changed nothing, that his dad owns the county and that the cops will pick Peter and the girl up and he'll rape the girl in front of him before he has Peter killed.

 

db91939

ugh. makes sense

 

Author376

Wow, Jeremy, that's something else. Cool.

 

db91939

whoa!

 

Kirayoshi

Nice neighborhood you got there, Peter

 

theoddlittleturtle

ooo...

 

Kirayoshi

Sounds like High Noon, X-Men style

 

db91939

That's chilling

 

theoddlittleturtle

agreed

 

Xakko

gah, that is nasty, Jeremy

 

Kirayoshi

Or is that Piotr as a young Clint Eastwood?

 

J_Harper

Peter looks at the man and his friends, then simply says that 'Then there's no reason for me not to kill the whole lot of you here and now.' And all six of the young men realize he means it, and they found out about a minute ago that there's absolutely nothing they can do to stop him, if he wants to do so.

 

Amokitty

Oh my god, Jeremy. That's brutal and disturbing, but so engrossing. I hope you reconsider and finish it. Peter needs an adult story where he can shown in a different light.

 

Author376

Hmmm, the bad guys are scared. :)

 

J_Harper

No, Peter as Spenser during Valediction. Kitty's lost has destroyed him, and he doesn't give a damn any more.

 

theoddlittleturtle

woo! love a little ass kicking by piotr

 

Author376

Piotr kicking ass needs to be seen more.

 

db91939

right

 

Author376

They water him down to make other characters look tougher.

 

theoddlittleturtle

yes, but also with talking

 

J_Harper

Peter then tells the young man to forebear and forget that he ever saw Peter or the young girl.

 

Author376

With talking, yes.

 

db91939

everyone at Marvel is way too obsessed with Wolverine ass-kicking

 

Author376

Agreed, DB.

 

theoddlittleturtle

not so much as "in my metal form... blah blah blah" but with some good words

 

Author376

Cool.

 

Kirayoshi

I suspect that the end of Lovelorn will involve Peter kicking Scott's butt.

 

db91939

I'd say it'd be more brutal to be punched by a steel fist than sliced by claws

 

Author376

Kicking Scott's butt wouldn't be remiss...

 

theoddlittleturtle

yeah, well look at the damage to shaw during axm

 

Author376

Crushing injuries actually do hurt more.

 

db91939

look at Pete Wisdom

 

theoddlittleturtle

lol

 

Author376

Hee, I took too much pleasure out of seeing Pete Wisdom smooshed.

 

Amokitty

Ha!

 

theoddlittleturtle

y'know i still haven't read that issue

 

Xakko

I still think it is impossible for a normal human to survive a full power punch from Peter if it connected

 

theoddlittleturtle

thus far it has not ended up in the 49 cent comic bin

 

db91939

hm. I might like to do a story about Pete trying to consol Piotr about Kitty being lost.

 

db91939

but it ends up with Pete muttering awkwardly

 

Xakko

the shot to Wisdom's gut would have pulverized the entire digestive tract and his spine

 

Author376

Oh, definitely. A full power punch would do someone in. Turn their ribcage to jelly. I like the idea of Piotr basicall just 'slapping' him around.

 

Amokitty

You're right, Xak. don't ever believe any ridiculous notion that Wisdom can roll with a punch from Colossus - only silly fanboys can justify something like that.

 

Author376

Pulling punches, but being out of it.

 

J_Harper

So Peter drives the girl away. Talks to her. Her name is Erin Ayers. She seems very jaded, very distant and hostile. She asks him why did he save her, then before he can answer asks if she wants her to suck his cock. Peter is taken aback by this, and then sternly tells her that he saved her because it was the right thing to do, and if she would like he'll let her out here and now.

 

Author376

Good for Piotr!

 

J_Harper

Peter is a Class 100 brick. Any normal human who gets hit full powered by him is going to die.

 

Amokitty

Darkbat, I'd love to read that! And I hope you do it.

 

Author376

It would be great Darkbat!

 

db91939

it may have to wait until after graduation

 

theoddlittleturtle

creeepy jeremy

 

Xakko

we need to get more fic going... but we can be patient.

 

db91939

I'm taking 20 credits, applying for internships and working. I'm swamped!

 

Author376

I need to go back and write the next bit of the Pete rescues Kitty with Von Doom, returns her to Piotr, bit, where he and Wolverine get drunk and tear up a bar together while sappily missing Jean and Kitty.

 

Xakko

(it's always easy to say that after I finish a project)

 

Amokitty

I'm fascinated by the story, Jeremy. Colossus would get his own "Max" story as it were.

 

Author376

Oh, goodness, you must be going under with that many hours!

 

Author376

Definitely a really cool idea Jeremy.

 

db91939

oh yeah... it's fun having about 4 hours of sleep a night!

 

Author376

Heh, as another college student, I can attest to that!

 

Xakko

yikes, db!

 

db91939

where do you go?

 

Author376

School in Kentucky... Little bitty school.

 

theoddlittleturtle

oh, i remember those type hours... i'm so glad i don't have to do it anymore

 

Author376

My high school in Florida was bigger :)

 

db91939

yikes!

 

Author376

It's a great school, though. Nearly one on one teaching and plenty of help!

 

db91939

good yeah

 

db91939

I hate having 100 people in a class

 

J_Harper

Erin is shamed by this, and apologies. They then talk for a bit. Peter finds out she's running away, and the thought of going back to her mother sends her into hysterics. Peter, knowing that it's probably not a good idea, since he's probably abetting the deliquency of a minor, and could maybe even be accused I've violating the, what's it called, the Mann act?, still decides to let Erin travel with him as long as she wants.

 

Author376

Our classes only run about 20.

 

Author376

Wow, that's neat, cool Jeremy, Piotr would certainly take care of the kid.

 

Xakko

so, what, Amber alert out for Erin, then?

 

theoddlittleturtle

oh! does Piotr get a sidekick?

 

db91939

Is Piotr going to hide away the fact that he's a mutant at first?

 

db91939

I'm not reading much marvel, is the same stigma attached to being a mutant as before M-Day?

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Xakko

hard to tell, db. they've been inconsistent.

 

theoddlittleturtle

everyone's in SF now

 

Xakko

(Marvel - go fig)

 

db91939

ha ha

 

Xakko

X-factor's in ... Detroit?

 

J_Harper

Not quite, Xakko. You'll see. I'm not sure yet if Peter reveals he's a mutant to her just yet. I have to think on it.

 

Kirayoshi

I thought X-Factor was in Chicago

 

Xakko

you really know how to set the stage well... you've got me ready to read it

 

theoddlittleturtle

I thought they were in ohio...

 

Amokitty

Jeremy, I'm not exactly sure what FF.net's policy is on adult stories, but if you do it and they give trouble, PLEASE let me know. I'll post it here and give it a shout out Everywhere. This needs to be read.

 

Kirayoshi

I had a plot bunny regarding the current rumors re: Norman Osborn.

 

Kirayoshi

Sort of an X-Men/Thunderbolts crossover.

 

Author376

Hate to leave, having fun, but if I stay up too late tonight, I'll stay up tomorrow night, and I need to get some sleep for my Monday class. it's been a lovely chat, thanks for putting up with me! Goodnight!

 

db91939

bye!

 

Kirayoshi

The current rumors are that Norman Osborn will be named the new director of SHIELD and will use his power to discredit all superheroes.

 

theoddlittleturtle

night

 

Kirayoshi

SOrry to see ya go, Author.

  Author376 left.

 

 

db91939

I know ff.net doesn't allow like, romance novel-type stories. Nothing too explicit

 

darkstorm5000

goodnight!

 

Kirayoshi

Anyway, back to the story.

 

Amokitty

Gosh I missed her! She left too darn fast!

 

db91939

so from your description of the story so far, I'm sure they'll allow it

 

Amokitty

Thank you 376 for coming!!

 

Amokitty

I wonder if Rose is coming back??

 

Xakko

gah, g'nite 376

 

J_Harper

Anyhow, they stop at a motel for the night, and Peter gets her a room ajoining his. Money really isn't much of a concern to Peter, since Xavier had trustfunds set up for both the original and all new team way back in the day, and he still has a lot of money back from his gravy days as Peter Nichols. So Peter and Erin go to bed. Well, Erin does, but Peter hasn't really been sleeping. He's sitting on the bed, looking at a bottle of sleeping pills he bought at a pharmacy earlier in the day, then in a fit of rage throws it against a wall and buries his face in his hands. He then just lies on the bed, in a sort of gray states, when he hears distressed crying from Erin's room.

 

Xakko

(bunny getting into trouble, may be afk from time to time)

 

theoddlittleturtle

when did Rose leave?

 

Xakko

a few minutes ago - I thought it was a glitch thing

 

J_Harper

She dropped out a little while ago. Maybe it's a glitch.

 

Amokitty

Just a few minutes ago. She didn't say 'bye' so I'm thinking she'll be back. :)

 

theoddlittleturtle

hope so

 

Amokitty

Jeremy: AND....????? Don't leave me hanging!

 

theoddlittleturtle

how long do these chats normally last anyway? not that i'm complaining!!

 

db91939

varies

 

db91939

I've gone out for the night, come back and it's still going

 

Amokitty

The chats last as long as folks want it too. Stay as long as you like!

 

theoddlittleturtle

cool... don't mind if i do :)

 

J_Harper

Peter goes to the next room, through the joining doors, sees Erin in the throes of a nightmare, and that she's glowing, surrounded by an aura of red-gold light. He somehow calms her down, and she falls back to sleep. He go gets dressed, then spends the rest of the night watching the girl, wondering what he got himself into.

 

theoddlittleturtle

brb... pitstop

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  MadR left.

 

 

Xakko

gah!

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Amokitty

Well, crap.

 

J_Harper

Rose must be having computer problems.

 

J_Harper

Hey rose.

 

Xakko

Rose, is that you?

 

Amokitty

Yay!!! We misse dyou, dear. :)

 

MadR

Yep, back!

 

Amokitty

*missed YOU* that is... ;)

 

Kirayoshi

difficulty with your computer, Mad?

 

MadR

Sorry, had a few nite-time chores to do and when I got back, had been kicked offline.

 

Amokitty

Ah. but you're back now and everything is great again! :D

 

MadR

<g>

 

theoddlittleturtle

back... hey rose!

 

J_Harper

Next morning comes, Erin is a little off-put by finding Peter in her room, but he explains that she had a bad nightmare, and wanted to make sure she was all right. He asks if she is hungry, and takes her to breakfast. Oddly enough, to Peter, he finds that, after of days of not wanting to eat, he actually has an appetite.

 

Amokitty

Now if we could hear a word or two from Darkstorm to let us know he's still alive, I'd be perfectly happy. :) :)

 

darkstorm5000

Oh, I'm still breathing and everything!

 

Amokitty

Taking care of Erin helps Peter to recover?

 

darkstorm5000

Just enjoying all of the interesting conversing here!

 

Amokitty

DS: Good to hear, my friend. ;)

 

MadR

Heh. BTW: Jeremy, think this is a dark and cool story you're outlining, and liked Darkbat's Pete Wisdom & Piotr idea.

 

db91939

where IS Pete nowadays?

 

Kirayoshi

Captain Britain and MI13

 

db91939

Like I've said, I'm severely out of the loop

 

theoddlittleturtle

i should have asked when everyone was here, but am i the only one that LOL'd at the refrig message from xavier in wolverine first class?

 

db91939

thanks!

 

Kirayoshi

Paul Cornell's new book

 

db91939

which refrig message?

 

db91939

er, which issue?

 

MadR

And now I THINk I'm caught up on the conversation from before I went to let the dogs out, toss in a load of laundry and turn the chicken marinade.

 

Amokitty

The taking out the trash comment, Turtle? FUNNY.

 

theoddlittleturtle

"My X-men: take out the trash on thursdays. - X"

 

MadR

Heh, that's cute.

 

db91939

heh

 

Amokitty

DB: from Wolverine First Class #8.

 

theoddlittleturtle

and of course the corks on wolvies claws

 

db91939

geez, I did not even catch that

 

db91939

oh I saw the corks, that was funny!

 

theoddlittleturtle

and the WTF bunnies were just cuuute

 

MadR

I think Pete Wisdom is still in an Excalibur book? See, not having a local comic store or following the big industry websites, I mostly know what turns up on Scans Daily.

 

theoddlittleturtle

i seriously only read first class for the little strips at the end...

 

Amokitty

Kitty wearing Mole Men glasses was great!

 

theoddlittleturtle

oh that was too funny

 

J_Harper

As they're eating two cops walk into the diner they're at and try to arrest Peter, saying that he's accused of taking away Erin and beating up six men who tried to stop them. Peter calls them on it, and the cops all but admit that they know the story is bullshit, that they're grabbing Peter because he beat up the son of the county's political boss. Peter gets up, pretending to surrender, then faster than the two cops can react, kicks one in the groin, and gets the jump on the other one, telling him that he'll make him eat his gun if he tries to draw. The cop does, Peter punches him out, then he takes their weapons, unloads them, breaks the cylinder off the big revolver one of them has, cuffs them back to back, then walks out with Erin, who is practically wetting her self in fear.

 

db91939

I like W: first class.

 

J_Harper

He did this in his human form, by the way.

 

db91939

It has a lot of the pointless silly things that I've been missing

 

theoddlittleturtle

i loved the paper written by kitty at the beginning

 

MadR

bad ass Piotr there.

 

J_Harper

Yeah, taking care of someone else starts heal Peter a bit.

 

Kirayoshi

the First Class special had a two-pager with a Young Charles Xavier, in Edward Gorey style art.

 

Kirayoshi

pretty creepy.

 

db91939

oooh! I love Edward Gorey

 

MadR

The Gorey Xavier was at scans daily, that was brilliant. And creepy.

 

db91939

I creeped out my sixth grade teacher by reciting the Gashleycrumb tinies

 

Amokitty

Peter taking on cops and bad guys to save the girl. This is an attention getter.

 

theoddlittleturtle

i'll have to check it out, i'm not currently collecting xfc

 

J_Harper

He should be bad ass. He's gentle, yes. His not as pugnaciously aggressive and short tempered like Wolverine, but even out of his change form he's someone you don't want to mess with. He's probably one of the worst people you'd want to pick a fight with - a big, very strong man who knows how to fight.

 

db91939

and those Eastern European men, while being viciously hot, also always look brooding and dangerous. Like they'd punch you in the face without thinking

 

theoddlittleturtle

has anyone done a fantasy-esque kiotr fic with Peter as a true knight and kitty as a maiden?

 

MadR

Like I used to say about that one Evo episode....out of his armor, he's still 6'8, pissed off, and walking toward you.

 

theoddlittleturtle

agreed jeremy

 

Xakko

it sounds familiar, but I can't think of one, OLT

 

theoddlittleturtle

brb dogs barking outside... gotta let em in before they wake the neighborhood

 

Amokitty

Peter SHOULD be threatening. He's Colossus after all. I hope K is wrong and the Lovelorn arc isn't all about Peter moping. Yes, his feelings over her disappearance badly need to be addressed and they're way overdue, but so does some decent character development.

 

J_Harper

So they're driving along, Erin is all in a panic. Peter makes a phone call, contacts Abigail Brand. Brand asks him what she owes the pleasure of this call. Peter asks her to convince the county boss to lay off him, before he's forced to do something drastic. Brand says, besides the fact she has no authority concering terran or domestic matters, why she should do this for Peter. Peter tells her that she owes him for two years of pain and misery.

 

db91939

I was wondering when that was coming

 

theoddlittleturtle

back...

 

db91939

I was always miffed that Piotr didn't corner Brand and call her out

 

db91939

one of the many things Astonishing was lacking

 

MadR

And I just reminded myself, if I do ever write that Marvel/DC crossover, I need to do something about Piotr being taller than Booster Gold. I don't think Booster's used to that.

 

Amokitty

Hell yes! That green haired bitch OWES Peter for everything she and SWORD did to him! I hate the fact that Brand and Emma did terrible thing in Astonishing, and yet they get glossed over, and they're really good guys somehow.

 

db91939

a Marvel/DC crossover?

 

J_Harper

They spar over this for a while, and Brand says she wants to know why Peter wants her to apply pressure. He tells her what's going on. She chuckles and says. "Regular knight in shining armor. Your parents should have name you Ilya, Rasputin." "They thought it too old fashion. What the hell do you know about Muromets, Brand?" "I know about a lot of things. Give me thirty minutes. Be talking to you, Rasputin."

 

db91939

fun!

 

theoddlittleturtle

in reality, the whole Peter and Kitty getting together lasted all of a week within the pages of axm, didn't it?

 

db91939

I've read a few that have tried to do it, but it just ends up with stupid stupid things.

 

db91939

Like Ororo and Batman hooking up

 

db91939

ew. no.

 

MadR

I wrote a snippet of amnesiac Kitty being adopted by Blue Beetle.

 

db91939

less than a week

 

MadR

They're both from Chicago suburbs, brown haired agile tech nerds.....

 

db91939

they slept together, next day the mindfuck and being abducted into space

 

theoddlittleturtle

that's sad, no wonder noone has done much of anything

 

db91939

and the whole breakworld events couldn't have taken more than 2 days

 

theoddlittleturtle

did they even do a memorial? i wasn't collecting last year

 

Amokitty

Turtle: unfortunately, yes. Carey's rendition in X-men #202 doesn't really fit in with continuity. So yeah. Like a week.

 

MadR

This idea keeps getting cooler, Jeremy

 

Kirayoshi

Powerful stuff, Jer.

 

theoddlittleturtle

i agree, jeremy

 

J_Harper

Brand calls back after a half-hour, tells him its done. Erin is just looking at him, asking just who are you. He shrugs, says no one in particular, just been around a lot, is all.

 

MadR

Ororo and Batman? Um, no, that wouldn't work for me. But then I have Batman Issues.

 

Amokitty

What could we do to convince you to write this Jeremy? Something like this could fill an awful void.

 

theoddlittleturtle

the offering on a different board is chocolate pudding...

 

db91939

well, number one Ororo's chlaustrophobia wouldn't allow her in the caves

 

theoddlittleturtle

wait... batman and ororo? no... i'm too much of a batman/catwoman fan

 

MadR

And you'd think his Metahuman prejudice would extend to mutants.

 

MadR

Ooh, ooh, ooh, Ororo finding out about Brother Eye, that he built the local equivalent of Sentinels, and frying his batbutt! Now I'm on board with the idea!

 

db91939

lol

 

J_Harper

Some domestic stuff happens between Peter and Erin. He buys her some clothes, some things a young woman needs, that Erin doesn't have. After a day, we go back to the bar, two men drive in. One of them, named Hound, says the trail becomes confused here, they need to investigate. The other man, Freak, nods and agrees. Hound is a small, blond man, sort of old and wizened, his blue eyes sharp, mean-looking, strangely hungry. Freak is a huge, muscled man, maybe two inches taller than Peter, completely bald, with deep set eyes, sharp cheekbones, and a Roman nose. They go into the bar.

 

db91939

nooo, I love Batman. and his insanity

 

Amokitty

batbutt. LOL.

 

theoddlittleturtle

"do you know what happens when lightning hits a bat?"

 

J_Harper

Thanks for the praise. I don't know if or when I'll write it. I've been having a hard time writing, lately.

 

theoddlittleturtle

"the same thing as everything else."

 

MadR

Heh, well, I love Ted Kord and Maxwell Lord, so Batman still tends to make me froth at the mouth a little.

 

theoddlittleturtle

i am the gd batman...

 

Amokitty

I know it's challenge, Jeremy. But considering how terrible X-books are these days, a really good story would take away so much of our pain. :)

 

theoddlittleturtle

zkow...

 

Xakko

actual time together? depends how long it took to get to the Breakworld. since the fight with the "Brotherhood" was the night after "it's totally your fault"... I'd say three days, tops

 

theoddlittleturtle

"you were the gd batman"

 

Amokitty

BoM was a balm that soothed my soul today.

 

db91939

I"m in the process of reading that

 

theoddlittleturtle

i've still got to read it...

 

db91939

but you all are distracting

 

Xakko

* blushes... thanks again for the beta - I really need one

 

Xakko

I just do NOT see my own typoes anymore

 

Kirayoshi

You mean "Hellfire Club" Xak?

 

Amokitty

I'm glad to do it, Xak. Another opinion never hurts anyone. :)

 

J_Harper

The two men take a seat, order beers, look around. Hound looks around, sees the young punk from the beginning of the story and his followers playing billards, tells Freak: "That one. He can help us find the trail". Freak nods, goes up to the punk, says 'my friend would kindly like to talk to you.' The punk, who's still smarting from the beating Peter gave him and the dressing down he got from his dad for the visit from the polite yet menacing SHIELD agents, says: "I ain't a faggot. Get lost."

 

Xakko

I'm thinking of posting some of my challenges from last years LWW writing contest - the poker tournament with Bruce Wayne, Clark Kent, Tony Stark, Emma Frost, Peter Parker and Dorreen Green, for one, and probably The Adventures of Lockheed comic

 

Xakko

yes, Kirayoshi, the "Hellfire" Club

 

db91939

ha ha

 

db91939

I would love that poker tournament

 

db91939

Bats would demand lead-lined playing cards!

 

MadR

Jeremy, this boy just don't learn, does he?

 

MadR

Oh that poker tournament looks interesting.

 

Xakko

db - http://forum.livewireworld.com/viewtopic.php?p=71409#71409

 

Kirayoshi

One weird thing about this Doctor Strange movie. They're treating magic training like it was martial arts training.

 

Xakko

I'd just need to tidy it up for FF.net

 

MadR

I haven't been reading over at LWW....I dunno, something about the message board format bugs me a little.

 

J_Harper

Freak insists. The punk turns and hits him in the side of the head with a pool cue, breaking it. The blow just makes Freak cant his head slightly. There's a big dent in his head, that pulses for a minute then reshapes itself. It's like the punk hit a bag of liquid silicon. Freak scowls, then grabs the punk by the shirt, lifting him up effortlessly, as if he weighed no more than a feather. Hound calls out. "Don't kill him yet, Freak. I still need to talk to him."

 

J_Harper

Yeah, he's pretty stupid. He's a spoiled brat raised by a man with criminal ethics and is used to getting things his own way.

 

MadR

Kirayoshi: that's an interesting slant. Comparative to Avatar and martial arts/bending?

 

J_Harper

Haven't found his name yet. Think it's Johnnie.

 

theoddlittleturtle

jeremy, the plot just gets better and better

 

Amokitty

Now we have dark and disturbing original character to add in the mix! It gets better and better, Jeremy.

 

Amokitty

Ha! We're thinkin alike, turtle!

 

theoddlittleturtle

yay!

 

theoddlittleturtle

now i really feel like i belong :D

 

Amokitty

You did from day one, Turtle. We're all fans of your work. :)

 

theoddlittleturtle

*blushes*

 

Kirayoshi

Welcome to the Kiotr-Men, Turtle. Hope you survive the experience.

 

db91939

oh yeah

 

Amokitty

LOL.

 

db91939

I'm in LOVE with "Warrior with no Name"

 

theoddlittleturtle

lol

 

db91939

It's riveting

 

theoddlittleturtle

oh, i guess that was the subtle hint of.. ahem.. "updat now!" ?

 

theoddlittleturtle

lol

 

Amokitty

Well now that you mention it...

 

db91939

ha ha

 

Xakko

heh

 

Amokitty

:D

 

db91939

that would be MUCH appreciated

 

theoddlittleturtle

oops.. update

 

Kirayoshi

If that was too subtle, how about this: UPDATE NOW!

 

J_Harper

So Freak has the punk by the shirt, says to bartender, without turning around "you go for that shotgun, I'll kill every fucking redneck in this pigstye." Drags Johnnie over to Hound, slams him face down on the table, holding his arm in a hammerlock, while Hound introduces himself in a mocking manner. "You think you're a big man, because your father runs a small part of this world and pulls your ass out of the fire and makes bodies occasionally disappear." Takes a sip of beer, then spits it in Johnnie's face. "But you're not. You're dogshit, and you are going to tell us what we want to know, or else we are going to kill you, and there's nothing either you or your father or anyone else around here can do to stop us."

 

theoddlittleturtle

lol

 

Amokitty

Here's where the shit hits the fan, right?

 

db91939

oh my gosh. So there's this commercial for Loreal double extend mascara. The model in that commercial looks like how I've always pictured Emma Frost

 

db91939

let's see if I can find out who she is

 

Amokitty

I can't but wonder if Emma will be featured in the new X-Men movie I hear is in development.

 

db91939

ah... a blond Linda Evangelista, apparently

 

theoddlittleturtle

another one? i thought that wolverine was supposed to be the 3rd x movie

 

Xakko

I've heard of three - Wolverine, Magneto, and one called "First Class"

 

theoddlittleturtle

hadn't heard of first class

 

Amokitty

A new movie that will focus on the younger students. Unless I'm confusing that with the X-Men First Class movie I've also heard about. I've been under the impression they're 2 different movies. could be wrong though!

 

Kirayoshi

The Wolverine movie also is supposed to have Deadpool and Gambit.

 

theoddlittleturtle

and ryan reynolds is supposed to be deadpool... i think...

 

Xakko

that's first class, amo...

 

Amokitty

Gotcha.

 

db91939

ugh

 

db91939

I'm dreading when Wolverine movie will come out

 

Xakko

Zak Penn directing

 

theoddlittleturtle

so would that mean kitty would be featured in first class?

 

theoddlittleturtle

i'm not... but i'm into big action films

 

db91939

The internet will explode with fangirls gushing about Gambit's role

 

Xakko

she graduated - so that's an unknown

 

Amokitty

The Original Five is in the new movie I think, turtle.

 

theoddlittleturtle

gambit... ugh

 

J_Harper

Hound proceeds to ask Johnnie about Erin. They get his version of what happened the night before, though not after Freak breaks a few fingers, and Hound grinds his thumb into his closed eye, threatening to put it out. they leave the bar, Johnnie on the floor practically wetting himself. Hound says that this explains why the trail became confused - Erin met a person of power. Freak's not impressed. Says a third grader with a q-tip could take the punks in there. Hound says that 'your power skews your perspective, King Freak. A man beating up six other men without breaking a sweat is very unusual." King Freak just shrugs. "Don't care if he's Captain America back from the dead, this man tries to keep Erin away from us, he dies. No matter how good he is, a normal man is no match for me."

 

theoddlittleturtle

oh, now that would be cool

 

darkstorm5000

Is it a reboot then?

 

J_Harper

Yeah, the shit hits the fan about here, Amo.

 

theoddlittleturtle

v cool jeremy

 

Amokitty

King Freak!! You've mentioned him before, Jeremy! A-ha!

 

theoddlittleturtle

i hope you have time to write this

 

Xakko

Jeremy - you have so much of it planned out, it's amazing

 

J_Harper

And I think I'll stop here. Don't want to spoil the entire thing.

 

theoddlittleturtle

oh drat

 

Amokitty

Well, damn.

 

Kirayoshi

You're evil, y'know that?

 

MadR

Very cool Jeremy. Hope you find the energy to write it.

 

Kirayoshi

And I mean that in the nicest way possible.

 

Xakko

ditto

 

MadR

Hee! Outline cliffhanger! cool.

 

Kirayoshi

Anyway, that X-Men/Thunderbolts plotbunny of mine...

 

J_Harper

Heh. Well, we'll see. I've flirted with it for a while. Part of the reason I haven't been writing is because I'm sort of suffering from creative paralysis. I have so many ideas, for various things, I don't know which to work on.

 

Amokitty

Yes, please expand on that, K. You didn't finish it!

 

Kirayoshi

I didn't want to interupt Jeremy.

 

J_Harper

I have pretty much the entire thing sketched in my head, and even have an idea for a sequel.

 

Amokitty

How has the original fiction gone, Jeremy? And anymore Ranma stories planned?

 

MadR

Whistles innovently, Nanowrimo started yesterday.....

 

Amokitty

Oh yeah. It's November already. time for folks to write!

 

theoddlittleturtle

nanowrimo?

 

theoddlittleturtle

i must be waay out of the loop...

 

Kirayoshi

Anyway; Norman Osborn, the new head of SHIELD, has launched a major TV ad campaign, calling for all superheroes to be outlawed(part of that Dark Reign arc).

 

MadR

national novel writing month. Challenge thing where you try to write a 200 page? novel before december.

 

Xakko

no deadlines for me, thanks.

 

J_Harper

Original fiction, I was working on a story, but I think I need to restart it. I don't want to discuss it in public. Ranma, I have several ideas for continuing a story I'm writing called Your Touch. Pure, romantic, sensual fluff, which makes me wonder how I could be writing it when my favorite author is Robert E. Howard...

 

theoddlittleturtle

oh! ... heh... i forgot all about that...and i have a book on it... wow...

 

theoddlittleturtle

thanks for the memory jog...

 

theoddlittleturtle

*hides under a log*

 

Amokitty

Well, Xak, you've been busy with RL. But hopefully you'll have more free time to write your harry Potter/X-Men crossover.

 

Xakko

yeah, I need to look into that.

 

Kirayoshi

But in Chicago, a newly elected city councilwoman, Theresa Pryde, has launched a counter-attack, angrily challenging Osborn's tirades. She declares, "My daughter sacrificed her life to save this world. We owe these metahumans our lives time and again! I won't stand by while Osborn sullies their name with his ambitions!"

 

MadR

Oh, cool idea Kira!

 

Xakko

whoa! go Ms. Pryde!

 

Amokitty

Life would be boring if one only liked a very specific genre and nothing else, Jeremy. Vive le differance!

 

theoddlittleturtle

oh definitely, k

 

J_Harper

That sounded interesting, Xakko. I like the idea for the scene, when the kids were going to be de-aged, Kitty freaks out realizing she'll be twelve, and peter 17, and that means she couldn't fool around with him for who knows how long.

 

J_Harper

Kids. X-Men, I mean.

 

Amokitty

Come out from that log this instant, Turtle! ;)

 

Kirayoshi

Osborn then quietly orders Bullseye, Scorpion and Venom, backed by some SHIELD Dreadnought-bots, to "take care" of Mrs. Pryde. Scott sends Colossus, Wolverine and Nightcrawler to defend the councilwoman.

 

Xakko

especially given the ending of BoM, Jeremy

 

theoddlittleturtle

:)

 

Kirayoshi

And of course at one point Piotr has a long heart-to-heart with Kitty's mom.

 

J_Harper

I'll have to check it out. Haven't been reading much X-Men fic for a while. Long while.

 

theoddlittleturtle

k, how did ms. pryde become councilwoman?

 

MadR

Kitty's mom is still an underused character in canon and fic. Very cool idea.

 

Xakko

the fic Deb and I may write together may be a Harry Dresden/X-men crossover, Amo

 

Kirayoshi

Most of the fanfics I've seen paint her as unsympathetic, I think that should be changed.

 

Xakko

aren't Scorpion and Venom the same dude now?

 

theoddlittleturtle

oh, nm.. i had to reread the post up above... oy vey... sorry

 

MadR

Oh, Dresden XMen could be very cool!

 

J_Harper

Amo, could you ping me, please? I don't have your name up on my screen.

 

Amokitty

I'd love to see Teresa's opinion on her relationship with Kitty. It's been hinted that it's contentious, but no one has bothered to delve into it. I'd love to see her and Peter talk. I wanna read this!! *Wheedles K to write it*

 

MadR

The Dresden Files fic has been drying up. I miss Bob.

 

Amokitty

Sure jeremy, just give me a second. :)

 

J_Harper

Fandom been quiet, or were you working on one, Rose?

 

Kirayoshi

I kinda lost track of who's who there.

 

MadR

Fandom has been quiet. I'm on two lj comms for the 13 ep tv show, and noone's posted for a month.

 

Xakko

It's too bad the novels never appealed to you, Rose. Butcher is really a guy after my own heart - superhero references, Looney tunes and muppets...

 

Kirayoshi

Another plot bunny I may consider:

 

MadR

I love his Spiderman tie in....I dunno. Book Harry's attitude and Element Bob just annoy me.

 

Kirayoshi

Alternate UXM #183: instead of the bar that they ended up visiting, what if Peter, Logan and Kurt ended up in Callahans?

 

MadR

Oooh. Callahan's Place fic?

 

Xakko

Callahans - refresh my memory?

 

Amokitty

brb guys.

 

db91939

Xakko- that poker story was awesome!

 

theoddlittleturtle

isn't that in salem center?

 

db91939

just finished reading it!

 

Kirayoshi

Spider Robinson's Callahan's books.

 

Xakko

thanks, that was fun to write

 

Kirayoshi

The bar is in New York's Suffolk County.

 

db91939

I loved the commentator's inadvertant puns

 

Xakko

of course, then Selene ends up with unlimited Juggernaut power.

 

MadR

Semi-magical bar you only find when you need it. Regulars who have a knack for solving problmes and easing pain.

 

db91939

"Diamonds are a girls best friends" and "flying through the preliminary rounds"

 

Kirayoshi

"Shared pain is halved, shared joy increased."

 

theoddlittleturtle

cool

 

Kirayoshi

Real cool series.

 

MadR

The early books are great, the last two or three, eh.

 

MadR

Oh, and Kurt has totally been to Lady Sally's.

 

theoddlittleturtle

brb

 

Kirayoshi

Just remember, the drinks are 50 cents, with the option of 50 cents to throw the glass in the fireplace after making a toast.

 

theoddlittleturtle

bak

 

theoddlittleturtle

i think...

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J_Harper

Now you're back.

 

MadR

bounce.

 

theoddlittleturtle

ah...

 

MadR

the turtle moves....

 

theoddlittleturtle

check!

 

MadR

(silly discworld reference)

 

Xakko

heh

 

Kirayoshi

By Great A'

 

Kirayoshi

A'tuin!

 

theoddlittleturtle

whilst discworld was going, i was busy reading star wars...

 

theoddlittleturtle

got a's in english because of the vocab words within the pages (extra credit whenever we found a word)

 

Kirayoshi

Oh, you don't know what you're missing, Odd.

 

Xakko

it's not done yet... not til Pratchett's Alzheimer's robs us of his talent

 

theoddlittleturtle

Standard was one of our words....

 

theoddlittleturtle

i'll have to check it out

 

MadR

Sigh, speaking of snippets I never followed up on, that one with Lockheed ending up in Lady Sybil's swamp dragon shelter....

 

Kirayoshi

Sam Raimi was supposed to make a movie out of the Wee Free Men, but I hear it's in production hell now.

 

Xakko

too bad.

 

MadR

And I'm still on the waiting list for Nation from the library.

 

theoddlittleturtle

sounds like most of hollywood

 

theoddlittleturtle

oh, did i actually type that??

 

Xakko

well, Raimi isn't a fave of mine

 

Kirayoshi

I know there's a mini series based on "Color of Magic" and "Light Fantastic"

 

Kirayoshi

Plus there's that cool mini based on "Hogfather".

 

Xakko

the movie was pretty good

 

MadR

I think Raimi could do a decent job on Discworld stuff....

 

Kirayoshi

HAVE YOU BEEN NAUGHTY...OR...NICE? HO...HO...HO!

 

MadR

Hogfather was excellent. Never did check out if the Color of Magic made it to dvd over here.....

 

Xakko

it'll probably come out later - it took a year for us to get Hogfather

 

Kirayoshi

I always liked Death's description of curry; "Have you ever bitten into a red-hot ice cube?"

 

Xakko

we have the animated films of Soul Music and Wyrd Sisters

 

Kirayoshi

Some German amatuer filmmakers did an adaptation of Lords and Ladies.

 

Kirayoshi

You can find clips of it on YouTube.

 

MadR

I'll have to look for that, Lords and Ladies is one of my favorites.

 

Kirayoshi

I've been reading the Watch novels lately.

 

Xakko

Sky 1 is next going "Going Postal", apparently

 

Kirayoshi

Just finished Men at Arms

 

Xakko

those are my favorites

 

Kirayoshi

Sky One's not bothering with chronology are they?

 

Kirayoshi

I love Vimes.

 

theoddlittleturtle

so what happens when Peter and Wolverine go to Callahan's or did I miss it when I got logged out?

 

Kirayoshi

And Carrot.

 

Xakko

not really. just seem to be doing whatever they like

 

Kirayoshi

Haven't really gotten past the concept.

 

theoddlittleturtle

okay

 

Kirayoshi

But I definitely imagine Piotr at the fireplace line, saying "To Katya," and throwing his glass.

 

MadR

probably the gang at Callahan's help Piotr ease his grief over losing Kitty and his guilt at not saving her? Plus old blues songs, lots of bad puns, and a bar fight or alien invasion or both, depending on how closely Kirayoshi follows which book.

 

Kirayoshi

I don't see Mick allowing a fight in his place, and given his resources, I think he might be able to deal with a fight easily enough.

 

Kirayoshi

Uh, Mad, my story is set just after Secret Wars.

 

Kirayoshi

Sorry for the confusion.

 

MadR

Oh after Secret Wars! Thought you meant the 'Piotr crying in his beer' bar scene.

 

theoddlittleturtle

So he wouldn't say "To Zsaji" ?

 

MadR

Nah, it's me. Getting to be 2 am and getting slaphappy.

 

Kirayoshi

Hmmm...possible.

 

theoddlittleturtle

which i say to thee, "ick"...

 

Kirayoshi

Although if he does, I wonder if Fast Eddie would quip "Gezundheit."

 

MadR

gigglesnort.

 

theoddlittleturtle

sniggle... appreviated what madr said

 

J_Harper

You didn't get your hour back yet, Rose, with the fall back, or did that all ready happen out where you are?

 

db91939

I think that happens around 2

 

db91939

then it goes to 1

 

MadR

nah, havent' set the clocks yet.

 

Kirayoshi

Of course the whole thing would be from Jake Stonebenders' POV.

 

MadR

Haven't read the books in years, and brain made of tapioca....didn't they do an emotional vampire/ predatory empath story in Callahan's? Or am I misremembering Lady Sally and the bitch with the mind control opal

earrings?

 

Kirayoshi

I think that was in Callahan's Lady.

 

Xakko

whee! we get our hour back

 

Xakko

and I've wasted so many this week :)

 

Kirayoshi

There was a vampire who served as a bouncer/designated driver for a few stories.

 

Kirayoshi

Ironically enough, the vampire's name was Pitor.

 

MadR

I'm trying to remember if they had something like Zsaji, though.....

 

Kirayoshi

Empathic healer?

 

Kirayoshi

They had a couple of telepaths, and one precog.

 

Kirayoshi

Plus an extremely long-lived woman in one story.

 

MadR

And our fannish interpretatation that she was unwittingly (or not) coercing Johnny Storm and Piotr into loving her.....damn, I could almost swear that was a plotline....

 

theoddlittleturtle

lol

 

MadR

Too many years since I've read the books though. I'm probably wrong.

 

Kirayoshi

The regulars are all fairly empathic, but not superhumanly so, IIRC.

 

Kirayoshi

Oh, and there's the talking dog.

 

theoddlittleturtle

now i'm definitely going to have to read these books

 

Kirayoshi

Loved Ralph Von Wau Wau.

 

Xakko

ugh. needy bunny... hold on

 

Kirayoshi

Mad scientist surgically altered a dog to give it human lips and voicebox, but the dog turns out to be a mutant with human intelligence.

 

theoddlittleturtle

wow... that's... wow... kinda like being dead but abducted by aliens and brought back to life wow

 

MadR

Loved the fact that most of the Lady Sally sequel was created as a Dan Rather joke....

 

Kirayoshi

If I was to write the story post-AXM, there is that one guy who was left in a Bolivian prison for 10 years. He'd empathize with Piotr.

 

Kirayoshi

I wonder if Mickey Finn would be aware of some of the aliens that the X-Men had faced.

 

MadR

The PI that looked like the anchorman, the suitcase nukes, and 'What's the frequency Kenneth?"

 

J_Harper

Christ, I still remember the donnybrook, that clown at CBRF picking a fight with Shari saying in the rudest way Zsaji didn't have empathic manipulation.

 

MadR

Not X Men but I bet Mickey and the Silver Surfer would have a lot to talk about.

 

Kirayoshi

That'd be interesting.

 

Xakko

GAH. there were some major jerks at CBR.

 

theoddlittleturtle

they pop up everywhere

 

Xakko

* writes note to self about Harry Dresden offering a Sword of the Cross to Piotr.

 

J_Harper

Actually, the anti-Kiotr/Colossus ones probably weren't the worst. I remember one guy, usually seemed pretty reasonable, but absolutley always had to thread crap in any thread dealing with animated Teen Titans.

 

Xakko

why, Jeremy?

 

J_Harper

ChaosBurnFlame. He was so bad, he pretty much killed all conversation about that show on the board by the time they banned him from going into threads about ATT.

 

MadR

Well, I'm about to faceplant into the keyboard here, so I'd better call it a night.

 

Xakko

g'nite Rose, thanks for coming!

 

theoddlittleturtle

aww... good night

 

theoddlittleturtle

it was fun!

 

J_Harper

Because he was walking proof of John Gabriel's Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory. Normal guy plus internet plus anominty plus audience equals Fuckwad.

 

MadR

It was fun chatting, I've missed you guys, I need to jump back over into Marvel from DC comics fandom.

 

Amokitty

Ah, dammit now that I'm back..! I'm sorry to see you go Rose!

 

J_Harper

Take care Rose.

 

Kirayoshi

Later

 

darkstorm5000

'night Rose!

 

Amokitty

Good night dear. :)

 

MadR

I'll seeya around the net! Good night!

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Amokitty

Now what have I missed?? Only everything right? ;) :D

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Kirayoshi

Here we go again

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Amokitty

*goes back and reads*

 

Amokitty

Troubles?

 

Xakko

all I know is that every time I turn around I've got a bunny flopped behind me

 

theoddlittleturtle

oh foot...

 

theoddlittleturtle

am i still here?

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theoddlittleturtle

foot

 

Xakko

I think you are?

 

theoddlittleturtle

ah ha!

 

Amokitty

turtle, do you have the latest version of Java installed on your computer?

 

J_Harper

Your Puff is very demanding. Probably more pleasant than my friend's parent's new kitten, Max. He's a little bastard. Last saturday, after I saw Appaloosa, I tried to pet him and he took a swat at me. I thought maybe he was playing, so let him hit me the next time, and he scratched me good.

 

J_Harper

Admittedly, he doesn't know me yet, but he's not very friendly.

 

theoddlittleturtle

i'm on a laptop that automatically updates when it wants to... there's no telling what i've got on here...

 

theoddlittleturtle

but i think i do...

 

Xakko

Puff is very demanding, and has become more so this week, since I was home and awake for much of it.

 

db91939

did somebody once write something about Piotr and Logan watching hockey?

 

Xakko

yes!

 

theoddlittleturtle

oh that would be fun! does anyone have a link to that?

 

Xakko

gah, was it starsinger or 376?

 

J_Harper

brb.

 

db91939

was it on the comm board or ff.net?

 

Xakko

of course, W:FC had Logan watching the Stanley Cup

 

db91939

yeah

 

darkstorm5000

I know 376 did one on her lj comm a while back.

 

Xakko

I'm trying to remember now.

 

Kirayoshi

"It's my right as a Canadian, to watch hockey whenever I want!"

 

theoddlittleturtle

lol

 

db91939

I was just reading this interview with Alex Semin, and it was fun hearing a Russian's view of hockey

 

db91939

"And in Russia people like beautiful hockey, and not dump and chase."

 

Amokitty

I'd love to see a Peter and Logan bonding over hockey. Priceless.

 

db91939

I would too

 

db91939

maybe I'll add that to a stack of things to write

 

db91939

Piotr would SO be a capitals fan. with new Russian hotshots Semin and Ovechkin (best thing since Gretzky, by the way)

 

theoddlittleturtle

that would be awesome

 

Xakko

Fedorov too

 

db91939

yeah

 

db91939

Logan of course would love the Habs

 

Xakko

But I think he would've been a Wings fan back in the old days

 

Kirayoshi

I'm starting to zone out here.

 

db91939

I could also see him pulling for the Flames

 

Xakko

apparently Logan's a Flames guy

 

db91939

er... the Oilers

 

db91939

I hate that he's a flames guy

 

db91939

I despise the flames.

 

Kirayoshi

I'm going to hang it up.

 

Kirayoshi

Cya

 

Xakko

aw, g'nite K

 

Amokitty

Aw, darn, K.

 

Amokitty

Thanks for coming tonight! :)

 

db91939

bye K

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Xakko

I could tell I'm not "sick" anymore, 'cause the Sabres won tonight. They went 0-2-1 while I was under the weather.

 

Amokitty

congrats to your home team!

 

theoddlittleturtle

oh i missed k... good night!

 

db91939

poor Sabres

 

Xakko

(the actually beat the Caps tonight, 5-0, but Ovechkin is back in Russia with his sick grandfather)

 

db91939

my prediction for stanley cup will be the Caps or the Sabres in the east, Red Wings or Wild in the west

 

Xakko

Kitty's a Hawks fan, I imagine.

 

db91939

oh yeah

 

db91939

hm. She'd probably get into it too, this season, with Kane

 

Xakko

Bobby's area would probably be NY Islanders.

 

Xakko

(Iceman, that is)

 

db91939

I couldn't really see anyone else having much of an interest

 

db91939

although it'd be funny if someone unexpected was

 

Xakko

I wonder if Dani's an Avalanche fan.

 

db91939

like Emma being a huge Bruins fan

 

theoddlittleturtle

like siryn?

 

db91939

her getting all decked out on game day. Positively worshiping Bobby Orr

 

Amokitty

I was hoping to get some thoughts on the upcoming Manifest Destiny with Peter and Illyana coming out next week. This story is what will lead into Ex Infernus. And it's another story that scares the beegeezus out of me, because of its potential to crap all over everything that has come before it.

 

Xakko

I *really* hate that Illyana simulacrum

 

Xakko

and it's so bloody easy to retcon too...

 

theoddlittleturtle

manifest destiny thus far, 616 has been erased in astonishing

 

theoddlittleturtle

at least that's what it lead me to believe when i read it today

 

theoddlittleturtle

oh wait that was ghost box

 

Amokitty

Even the name of it bugs me. Manifest Destiny. What a crock.

 

theoddlittleturtle

my bad

 

Xakko

I haven't been to a comic store in three weeks, I think

 

theoddlittleturtle

manifest destiny in x-men was little snippets of insight into the characters

 

theoddlittleturtle

i didn't even touch the wolverine one

 

Amokitty

It sounds like Illyana and Peter will be pitted against each other for a little "drama".

 

Xakko

*sigh*

 

theoddlittleturtle

brb... have to break up a cat fight

 

Xakko

good luck!

 

theoddlittleturtle

bak

 

theoddlittleturtle

darn cats

 

Amokitty

It a cheap ploy to create familial tension. Peter and Illyana wouldn't behave like that, but this new Illyana is a whole 'nother animal.

 

theoddlittleturtle

adopted my sisters so she wouldn't send it to the pound and the other four hate him

 

Xakko

not illyana! I'm not listening! lalalalalallala *fingers in ears

 

theoddlittleturtle

i prefer the 'deliverance' version of illyana

 

Xakko

it was right there in "Quest for Magik" - Belasco just used magik to coalesce a bunch of memories about her. it isn't really her (even if it thinks it is)

 

J_Harper

Idiots. Marvel is employing some very cheap hacks right now.

 

theoddlittleturtle

going back and rereading the magik miniseries, there was an underlying eww factor between Belasco and Illyana...

 

J_Harper

I use to like Marvel. Marvel early in the Q's tenure was revitalized, after a good decade of abuse. Now we get all this shit. Civil War, Brand New Day, House of M. Bleah.

 

theoddlittleturtle

but people are still reading, so they're still writing...

 

J_Harper

Yeah, I know. Maybe I just grow old.

 

Amokitty

People aren't putting any effort into their writing anymore. Flimsy plot lines... I'm floored that most folks are satisfied with that, especially when they've had better with back issues.

 

Xakko

as Yogurt would say, it's all about marketing!

 

theoddlittleturtle

I keep hoping it's like a book... starts out kinda slow and then gets into the meat of it a little bit later

 

Amokitty

I like yogurt!!

 

theoddlittleturtle

lol

 

theoddlittleturtle

it took me a second...

 

theoddlittleturtle

need to lay off the rum...

 

Amokitty

Without Kitty being a part of this (barring some miracle from Lovelorn), this new mini is going to found lacking from the start.

 

theoddlittleturtle

i hope not... i would love for illyana to make a reappearance for "real"

 

theoddlittleturtle

and not with the dagger that pixie just used in 503

 

Xakko

I'm so down on Marvel, I almost want them to limbo all my favorites until better administration comes by

 

theoddlittleturtle

"Embrace change."

 

theoddlittleturtle

teehee

 

J_Harper

I just had a horrible thought - must be because I'm tired. What if in Lovelorn this Fraction does a retcon saying Peter slept with Kitty when she was a minor?

 

J_Harper

Sometime after the Brood saga.

 

Amokitty

Oh christ, don't get me started on Pixie!! she whupped Manuel de la Rocha's ass this last issue. That's impossible and we all know it!!!!

 

Xakko

that's just wrong, Jeremy

 

theoddlittleturtle

Woo! .. oh wait...

 

J_Harper

I know. That's why it is a horrible thought.

 

darkstorm5000

That wouldn't surprise at this point, given what they've done with rewriting other past continuity.

 

Xakko

c'mon, Doug Ramsey almost beat the snot out of him once. OK, after the rest of the Mutants had a go, but still

 

theoddlittleturtle

but... how in the world would they retcon?

 

J_Harper

Not a recon. Just something that happened off page after the Brood saga, but before Secret War.

 

J_Harper

Wars.

 

Xakko

there *is* that time when she was under Lilith's influece, but that could hardly be blamed on either of them. If anything Lilith would have raped Piotr

 

Amokitty

Oh god, that would destroy everything. Fraction is so lousy, it wouldn't be imposible at all. that's an awful thought, but you never know. Fraction is having x-folks engage in a lot of sex.

 

theoddlittleturtle

eww... plot bunny...

 

theoddlittleturtle

of course... dazzler was even singing it!

 

J_Harper

I like sex just fine, but I would prefer it not to be gratiutous.

 

J_Harper

Of course, I may also be a hypocrite, since I like XXXenophile, but that comic is funny and humane. i doubt that Fraction will be either, but I don't know him.

 

Amokitty

The sex in X-men is kinda slutty actually. Claremont for all his teases never delved THIS far.

 

Xakko

I thought he really did OK with The Order

 

theoddlittleturtle

but Marvel no longer has to conform to the comic authority...

 

J_Harper

I don't know him. i don't want to judge him without reading him.

 

J_Harper

But I also don't want to read him.

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DB

gr

 

DB

my computer hiccuped or something

 

Amokitty

You're back. :)

 

DB

and apparently I've been cloned

 

theoddlittleturtle

SKRULL!

 

DB

AH!

 

theoddlittleturtle

kill it!

 

DB

oh dear

 

Amokitty

LOL.

 

theoddlittleturtle

:D sorry couldn't resist

 

J_Harper

Since I'm bored and tired and don't know any better, let's talk about sex in Kiotr fanfic.

 

Amokitty

Having read Brubaker's Divided We Fall with Peter, Logan , and Kurt in Russia; I have little hope of this new stroyline of being any good. Just so you know, Fraction assisted Bru on the writing with that arc.

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Xakko

will we get a skrull turtle now?

 

theoddlittleturtle

was it something i said??

 

theoddlittleturtle

nah... kung fooey

 

Xakko

I'm in favor of it, Jeremy

 

Xakko

so long as it's present day

 

Amokitty

Poor Turtle! *hugs turtle for the crap the room's giving her*

 

Amokitty

Kiotr sex. What the world needs more of..... *nods*

 

J_Harper

I didn't mean bored. I am tired, though, and I don't know any better.

 

J_Harper

heh.

 

Xakko

I just can't write it, myself

 

theoddlittleturtle

wow... what a first time... ;)

 

theoddlittleturtle

oh seconded, amo

 

Amokitty

Stretch your boundries, Xak! You can do it!!

 

J_Harper

Kiotr sex is nice. I like Ranma and Akane sex as well, but that's a different fandom, and has a whole lot of baggage attatched to it when it comes to romance.

 

Amokitty

Like Kiotr doesn't have baggage? ;)

 

Xakko

depending on the temperature of the showers, Jeremy?

 

Amokitty

*cracks up*

 

J_Harper

Trust me, Shari, Piotr/Kitty/Pete is a spring breeze compared to the great Fiancee wars.

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J_Harper

Depends on if you think Ranma and Akane would experiment like that. Though I don't think sex in a cold shower would be much fun.

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DB

bonjour!

 

Amokitty

What bugs me the most is the potential that's lost now. Kitty and Peter entered a real relationship. Something that could expand the characters, and bring fresh ideas. And they let Joss throw it away.

 

theoddlittleturtle

um... should we disect the other one?

 

Amokitty

Bon soir!

 

DB

you know, I just think that they're scared of writing the unfamiliar

 

Xakko

hiya DB (again)

 

DB

so they go to the tired stand bys: Jean being resurrected, Wolverine dealing with his past, Rogue doing... anything

 

Xakko

the drama of a stable relationship is too nuanced for most writers.

 

J_Harper

No, they just think stable relationships are boring.

 

J_Harper

Yes.

 

J_Harper

It's too hard for them to write, or they think they are boring.

 

Xakko

instead, we get Scott and Emma as our "stable relationship".

 

J_Harper

Heh.

 

Xakko

I guess so long as its kinky...

 

DB

which, I guess is true of all mediums

 

J_Harper

Perhaps.

 

theoddlittleturtle

i think most of the writers watch too many soap operas...

 

DB

I mean, they're adding pointless tension to Jim and Pam in the Office and Meredith and Derek in Grey's

 

J_Harper

But then, I think about the Thin Man movies, and the relationship between Nick and Nora was definitely anything but boring.

 

DB

happy endings only exist in Reese Witherspoon movies

 

theoddlittleturtle

rofl...

 

Xakko

if nothing else, why can't there be that one relationship to throw the other ones into sharp relief?

 

J_Harper

Spenser and Susan Silverman can get a bit twee, but still, I can't think of Spenser being without her.

 

DB

right

 

theoddlittleturtle

unfortunately they are doing that with scott and emma... well, now that he's technically cheated... dunno...

 

Amokitty

What I love the most about the current crop of fanfiction I'm seeing is that no one is shying away from Kitty and Peter being depicted realistically by them being together as a couple. The stories have a more 'real world' feel to them, because they're shown working through things together like couples do every day. It gives a realism that comics lack.

 

Amokitty

There's a lot of kink in X-Men lately. The S&M stuff has gone way, WAY overboard though.

 

DB

which some people find just as interesting

 

J_Harper

I remember Morrison or someone saying something about realistically, how could Scott not jump on someone with tits like Emma. I call bullshit. Yeah, there are men who cheat. But there are men who don't, despite being tempted. Who isn't tempted once in a while?

 

DB

I mean.. Mad About You was on air forever

 

DB

and from what I remember they were stable, normal, and relatively happy

 

theoddlittleturtle

except that scott was already written as a cheat... pyscho... er.. psylock

 

DB

lol

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J_Harper

But some people won't, just as some people will. All things are possible. I wish that Marvel would realize that. Even Spider-Man wins in life sometimes, back in the classic Lee/Ditko run.

 

Xakko

y'know, that's going to be a challenge for the next project, Amo. Kits was their angst about not being together. BoM progresses them... the HP X-over will be really about them as a couple. Albeit a de-aged one having to live in seperate dorms

 

Amokitty

Acting on the temptation is what killed Scott's integrity.

 

Xakko

it's still fixable

 

theoddlittleturtle

i did it! i killed the skrull! *looks around*

 

Xakko

but they won't

 

Amokitty

Dammit, the Java window must be on the fritz... What the hell.\

 

DB

ha ha! good job!

 

theoddlittleturtle

do i get to level up now?? :D

 

theoddlittleturtle

lol

 

Amokitty

But now order is restored!

 

Xakko

Wasn't the Psylocke thing confirmed to be the Revanche mind influencing him?

 

DB

God... stupid Kobe

 

theoddlittleturtle

oh... yeah...

 

theoddlittleturtle

apparently its like whomever said... the writers missed the back issues...

 

Xakko

It isn't that hard to think that Emma was at the very least reading his mind during their "therapy" sessions, finding every weakness to exploit to seduce him

 

DB

but you'd expect Scott, the leader of the team, to have more integrity, realize what she was doing and be able to not cheat

 

Amokitty

Xak: Kitty and Peter will be thrown in old and very familiar circumstances, but how they react to it is a whole new ball game. They're partners in love and life, and will be looking at things and each other VERY differently now. Being stuck in school will heighten the tension for sure!

 

theoddlittleturtle

especially since she admits that she has to "remind herself not to read his mind while he's sleeping"

 

Xakko

you would expect that, but this is also right after Cyclopalypse, so the remaining Poccy thought patterns could easily provide an opening

 

theoddlittleturtle

*sighs* here's to wishing emma be a bad guy again...

 

theoddlittleturtle

oh, has anyone read axm 27?

 

Xakko

warning bells should have gone off when she suggested psychic roleplay, but if she had laid the faulty logic down well enough...

 

Xakko

um, I think so? it really doesn't stick with me

 

theoddlittleturtle

where cyclops threatens brand?

 

theoddlittleturtle

and then humor ensues

 

DB

what's that urban legend about the Washington Redskins and the presidential election?

 

theoddlittleturtle

uhhh...

 

Amokitty

Has anyone wondered what Peter's thoughts were after he and Kitty consummated their relationship? We know that Kitty was "floored", but was Peter in his own way? I hate Joss for giving us Kitty's thoughts, but not Peter's. Peter is more experienced than Kitty, but I'd like to think he was just as affected. there needs to be a story on this!

 

Xakko

if they lose, it means the incumbent party loses the White House

 

Xakko

it worked every year up until 2004, when GB won but Bush stayed in office

 

theoddlittleturtle

there wasn't one??

 

DB

THAT'S why the redskins are on MNF

 

theoddlittleturtle

destiny?

 

DB

I was like... this is going to be a horrible game. Why on earth would they pick this matchup?

 

Xakko

since 1936, that is. they are 17/18

 

Xakko

the Redskins are good this year.

 

theoddlittleturtle

oh wow.. me no sporty...

 

Amokitty

Alas Turtle, me neither. though I do enjoy the odd baseball game.

 

DB

I'd rather see Giants/Dalls or Jets/Buffalo, Indy/NE, GB/Titans

 

DB

any of those games would be better

 

theoddlittleturtle

er... i've never gotten into sports at all... unless you count gymnastics and figureskating (only for watching of course)

 

Amokitty

me too. :)

 

DB

yeah, I'm a sports nut. It's a problem

 

DB

I watch hockey highlights instead of studying.

 

theoddlittleturtle

and wwe only bc my husband's a diehard fan of the ... um profession... and our best friend is a "professional" on the indy circuit

 

Amokitty

Cool!

 

Xakko

one wonders how experienced Piotr really is. Nereel and Fahe... Zsaji... Callisto (as Peter Nicholas)... and then Kitty. any others I missed?

 

theoddlittleturtle

rogue?? oh wait.. that was just kissing right?

 

Xakko

I used to be a big football fan, but that's diminished. hockey fandom's increased over the years

 

J_Harper

Maybe a farmgirl or two on the commune ;)

 

Xakko

I mean, that's really three one night stands (well, Kitty twice, "totally your fault" and "woof"), and a relationship while he was someone else

 

theoddlittleturtle

if i took the time, i could probably get into hockey or football... i used to be into football when i dated the captain... but that was highschool and he was um.. a year younger than me and in junior high... hehe

 

DB

poor Piotr

 

Amokitty

I don't think so, but he's more experienced than Kitty relatively speaking... He defintely appears to be naturally "gifted" in that area if Kitty's reaction is anything to go by. But did she utterly rock his world too? That's what I want to know.

 

DB

no wonder he's so broody

 

DB

Oh I bet she did.

 

J_Harper

Well, it helps when you're in excellent shape... as both of them are.

 

Xakko

Kitty definitely with Wisdom over a period of time. Dunno about Seth

 

DB

and I bet just the culmination of their whole relationship and everything were enough for Piotr.

 

Xakko

doubtful about Danny, or anything in college.

 

Amokitty

Good point about Seth, Xak. Claremont had her nuts about the scumbag. Ugh.

 

theoddlittleturtle

missed seth.. who?

 

DB

yeah, who?

 

Xakko

Neo, from X-men 100

 

theoddlittleturtle

er.... brain comes up empty...

 

Xakko

tried to kill the X-men and convince Kitty to run off with him. Or rather, plummet from a space station back through Earth's atmosphere

 

Xakko

the plotline died with Revolution

 

J_Harper

I had in mind a series of basically sex stories, post-Deathless, post-Tearing Down Walls. Had one in mind, they're looking at the Kama-Sutra or an Anne Hooper sex-help book, and Kitty's pointing out various things and Peter protesting that he was in no way as flexible as she is.

 

theoddlittleturtle

well that would turn me off...

 

Amokitty

I mean you can love someone with all your heart and not have the most fantastic sex in the world. Peter apparently doesn't have a genuine on anything. When was the last time we saw a thought balloon coming from him? Seriously.

 

theoddlittleturtle

oooh jeremy you must write...

 

Amokitty

*begs Jeremy pitifully*

 

J_Harper

Basically fluff, before I brought in Turgenav Zmeivitchl

 

J_Harper

Zmeivitch.

 

theoddlittleturtle

*whines*

 

J_Harper

Who is definitely not fun.

 

Amokitty

Genuine THOUGHT... good god why can't I type?

 

Xakko

I still wonder where CC was going with that. He was having Kitty say how much she had grown and how Piotr still thought about her as a child, but the words and thoughts he gave Piotr didn't gel with that at all.

 

theoddlittleturtle

was wondering what you meant, amo... but ... i thought it was the rum...

 

Amokitty

There must fun before it all goes to hell though! It's an unwritten rule or something....

 

theoddlittleturtle

;)

 

theoddlittleturtle

no no it's written!

 

J_Harper

Koschei was a decadent, yet he kept Piotr as Nikolai celebate. didn't want his Warlord getting distracted by trivial pleasures.

 

theoddlittleturtle

i'll write it if i have to

 

J_Harper

Seth was a strange episode. I read those scans Amokitty put up. Man, Kitty was a brat in that.

 

theoddlittleturtle

"There must be fun before all got to hell" Rule #3578 of writing fanfiction, romance or type of fiction... non-fiction: anything goes

 

Amokitty

Oh there were defintely mixed messges coming from Claremont. He pushed boundaries as much as The Code let him. but something to consider is that even twenty, twenty five years ago, depending on the people involved age differences like K&P's weren't that frowned upon. It's amazing what has happened to public opinion in that time. Read books and romance novels from that period and you'd be shocked. Lots of stories with 17 yr. old girls with 30 yr. old men, and lots of guardian and ward romances.

 

J_Harper

Marion Zimmer Bradly once said she was told that the best stories involved someone having his ass in a beartrap and his efforts to get out of it.

 

theoddlittleturtle

goes

 

J_Harper

i still think Shooter flipped his lid because he thought Peter was in his mid twenties or something, not 18.

 

theoddlittleturtle

or he had a daughter...

 

Amokitty

Well Turtle, thank heavens you will because it's a job that needs doing! *ducks at veggies thrown* Seriously, I hope you do it!

 

J_Harper

Hell, Peter and Kurt looked a lot older when they first appeared, than what Claremont finally established.

 

theoddlittleturtle

did i just volunteer by accident...?

 

theoddlittleturtle

lol

 

theoddlittleturtle

did i mention rum??

 

theoddlittleturtle

and cola and triplet sec...?

 

Amokitty

I agree Jeremy. They were portrayed very differently in the beginning. Hell, I don't even think Peter was shown as an artist until Uncanny #174 with K& P's attic scene. LOTS of things changed along the way.

 

Xakko

heh. wish I could join you

 

Amokitty

*brings turtle booze* Name your poison!

 

Xakko

I'm sure that'll violate one of the cautions on one of the various drugs I'm taking

 

Amokitty

but on the bright side, Xak, you'll feel so much better!

 

darkstorm5000

Well guys, I think I'm going to call it a night

 

J_Harper

G' night!

 

theoddlittleturtle

poison: captain morgan and whatever cheap triple sec and walmart brand cola! woo! i'm such a cheap skate

 

Amokitty

Darkstorm, it was good of you to come tonight! It's really appreciated. :)

 

Amokitty

Have a great weekend, okay?

 

darkstorm5000

I enjoyed it very much! Goodnight all!

 

theoddlittleturtle

good night darkstorm... had fun!

 

Amokitty

Good night DS

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J_Harper

I should go too. I'm beat, and I need to get back to a semi-normal sleep cycle, since I return to work Monday. I'm glad you thought well of my story summary. I make no promises, but we'll see. Take care of yourselves.

 

Amokitty

I knew it! You guys leave in packs! ;)

 

J_Harper

Heh.

 

theoddlittleturtle

now i feel like i ran everyone off lol

 

theoddlittleturtle

have a good night

 

Xakko

gah, g'nite belatedly DS!

 

Amokitty

Thank you so very much for coming tonight, Jeremy! It's always a pleasure!

 

J_Harper

Thank you. g' night. :)

 

Amokitty

Night1

 

Xakko

g'nite Jeremy

 

Xakko

thanks for showing!

 

J_Harper

Farewell! Until we meet again. Peace be with you. May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house. ;)

 

Amokitty

I'll be in touch tomorrow, jeremy. Until then! :)

 

Amokitty

Ha1

 

J_Harper

Thanks again. G' night. :)

 

theoddlittleturtle

... um...

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theoddlittleturtle

i think i log out everytime someone logs out...

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Amokitty

this may have been the latest he's stayed to chat. Very good of him to do that.

 

Amokitty

Hello? who's there? ;)

 

theoddlittleturtle

am i still here?

 

Amokitty

;)

 

theoddlittleturtle

lordy...

 

Amokitty

We see you fine, Turtle. Just teasing!

 

theoddlittleturtle

oh good

 

theoddlittleturtle

heh

 

Xakko

I'm here.

 

theoddlittleturtle

at least i've not replicated or... anything

 

Xakko

But the bunny may have to go in her cage

 

theoddlittleturtle

are bunnies fun?

 

Amokitty

Is Puff going to bed?

 

theoddlittleturtle

i'm not trying to sound sarcastic...

 

Xakko

she's being a little snotnose

 

Amokitty

uh-oh.

 

theoddlittleturtle

heh

 

Xakko

she's cute and she's cuddly and she gives kisses

 

Xakko

she doesn't "play" much... some do

 

DB

alright kids, I've got to go to bed

 

theoddlittleturtle

just wondering... the last bunny i was around didn't like me very much

 

Xakko

g'nite DB!

 

theoddlittleturtle

aww... good night

 

DB

have fun!

 

Xakko

Puff is very antisocial except for me and Deb. she lurves us lots

 

DB

and I love all of your story ideas and such!

 

Amokitty

Night DB, and thanks for coming by!! :)

 

Xakko

have a great night!

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Amokitty

How long has Puff been free today?

 

theoddlittleturtle

i'm still here! i didn't get logged out! *elated*

 

Amokitty

Heh, heh.

 

Amokit