Unfortunately, Madripoor Rose could not attend this chat due to illness. We hope you’re feeling better, Rose. :)
Within this transcript is the mention of a Kiotr themed video made by Leafee LeBeau. It’s called ‘My December’, and is highly recommended. Enjoy!

Transcript for KIOTR Chat 9/23/06 - Topic: Astonishing X-Men #17

 

Amokitty

Evening everyone. I'm really looking forward to tonight's chat. Astonishing #17 was such a suspense thriller!

 

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Amokitty

Hi!

 

Amokitty

Glad to see you here, Loneraven.

 

LoneRaven

hey : )

 

Amokitty

You're the first to arrive tonight! I can hardly wait to discuss the book. Did it drive you crazy like it did me?

 

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LoneRaven

Ohh yeah. I'm kinda confused about the Emma thing, and the Kitty parts drove me insane

 

Amokitty

Welcome Leafee!

 

LeafeeLeBeau

Thanks. ^_^

 

Amokitty

LOL.

 

Amokitty

The baby thing has got me tearing my hair out. Why was a child chosen for this hallucination?

 

LoneRaven

probably to get her more determined to reach into that thing to grab the thing with all of her might

 

LoneRaven

and will

 

LoneRaven

and what more to push it than her own child?

 

Amokitty

So sick, wasn't it? Bad Joss!! ;)

 

LeafeeLeBeau

*Dies* I need to get that issue!!!

 

LeafeeLeBeau

I like spoilers. ^_^

 

Amokitty

OMG, you don't have it yet? Awww. Well I take it you've been spoiled already Leafee. And Yes, it's so good!

 

LoneRaven

i'm so very sad about Lockheed

 

Amokitty

Good grief, what the hell's up with that? Lockheed's no traitor. This makes absolutely no sense to me.

 

LoneRaven

I know, he would never betray Kitty. Ever.

 

LoneRaven

I thought for sure it was Blindfold or Hisasko

 

LeafeeLeBeau

I have to drive 30 minutes to get to a comic shop ::sad but I have seen the spoilers.

 

LeafeeLeBeau

Poor Lockheed...

 

Amokitty

I feel for you Leafee. Growing up the nearest shop for me was about 30 miles away. So I never went as often as I wanted to.

 

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Kirayoshi

Hey gang.

 

Kirayoshi

sorry I'm late

 

LoneRaven

awe, i had a comic shop about ten minutes away when i was a kid and never found out about it until i was like 11

 

Amokitty

Howdy, K!!!!

 

LoneRaven

hey

 

LeafeeLeBeau

Aww. I'm determined to get the issue next week!

 

Amokitty

You're not late dear.

 

Kirayoshi

So...now what?

 

Amokitty

You won't be sorry Leafee. It's a blow your mind kind of ish.

 

Kirayoshi

Definite mind-screw, yep.

 

Amokitty

Well K, we're talking about Lockheed. I'm still stunned.

 

LoneRaven

I can't see him doing something like that..

 

Kirayoshi

I'm still under the theory that Lockheed was either coerced or chipped.

 

Kirayoshi

Or, after CW #4, cloned is even a possibility!

 

LoneRaven

im in denial about it.

 

Amokitty

His loyalty to Kitty has never come into question until now. Don't really like this.

 

Amokitty

Me too!

 

LoneRaven

yeah...and is the first time he's shown up in the arc? I don't think I've seen him in astonishing for awhile.

 

LoneRaven

I can't recall it anyways

 

Amokitty

Since Astonishing #9 or #10 I think....

 

Kirayoshi

He appeared briefly in 'Dangerous'.

 

LoneRaven

yeah

 

Kirayoshi

Kitty commented that her link with him was intuitive in nature.

 

Amokitty

Yeah, he was with the kids in the Danger Room. Then nothing.

 

LoneRaven

that's a bit silly to bring him in now then

 

Kirayoshi

I suspect that Brand coerced him into helping, making him believe that it was the only way to protect Kitty.

 

LoneRaven

oh that could be possible

 

Amokitty

I agree Loneraven. This really came out of nowhere.

 

Kirayoshi

I think he was in Kitty's room just before she went to confront Peter in #13

 

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LoneRaven

hmm I'd have to check my comics.

 

Amokitty

Brand is evil. She'd stop at nothing, including lying.

 

Kirayoshi

Hey Lia!

 

Amokitty

Hello, Lia!!!

 

Lia

Hey guys! how's everyone doing?

 

Kirayoshi

we're playing "Pin the Blame on Agent Brand"!

 

Kirayoshi

I just splurged today.

 

Kirayoshi

I broke down and bought a used PS2

 

LoneRaven

I never remember her name. I always remember 'hyrda hair' instead.

 

Kirayoshi

With Kingdom Hearts and FFX

 

Amokitty

Things are mostly good. Brubaker was an ass to me today, but other than that, okay

 

Amokitty

!

 

Lia

Really? That's sad, I thought he was nice.

 

Amokitty

PS2? Cool!!

 

Kirayoshi

I probably won't get the next gen unit, but I figure I'll have plenty of fun with this one.

 

Kirayoshi

And by the time I finish up Kingdom Hearts, the sequel will be available for less!

 

Amokitty

The man never looked at me, made eye contact with me, spoke with me. Just rude. He signed my stuff without acknowledging I was even there. I attempted speaking to him, but he was too busy talking with other people. Pfft.

 

Kirayoshi

Ah. Sorry to hear that, Amo.

 

LoneRaven

aw, that's too bad.

 

Lia

Im sorry. He sounds like a jerk.

 

Amokitty

yeah well, I DID get my stuff signed. Not a total loss.

 

Kirayoshi

Last comic-signing I ever went to was when Kurt Busiek visited a local comic shop.

 

Kirayoshi

He couldn't have been nicer!

 

Lia

I've heard great things about him. And Loeb is supposed to be a really good guy, too.

 

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Amokitty

See, Adam Kubert was just the coolest person when I met him. Wonderful guy. Lovely conversation with him. I even had a better conversation with Claremont! I don't get this.

 

Amokitty

Hey hon.

 

Kirayoshi

Problem, AmoC?

 

Kirayoshi

Hey, at least it wasn't Byrne.

 

Amokitty

I think he goofed.

 

Kirayoshi

He's becoming the Rush Limbaugh of comics from what I heard!

 

Amokitty

Oh god, Byrne! I heard real horror stories.

 

amocat

Having some probs on my pc.

 

Lia

His personality is destroying his legacy. He says such awful things!

 

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Amokitty

Sorry dear.

 

Tomaka

hola

 

Amokitty

Hello Tomaka. Welcome!!

 

amocat

gonna check out for a minute..

 

Tomaka

hey everybody!

 

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LoneRaven

hey

 

Lia

Hi Tomaka!

 

Kirayoshi

He ranked on Steve Irwin just days after his death.

 

Amokitty

Cool to see a new face!

 

Tomaka

ya, this is my first time here

 

Kirayoshi

We should have invited Melody Rider

 

Amokitty

Yeah I heard about that, K.

 

Tomaka

I've been meaning to get in here for a while

 

LoneRaven

really? what did he say?

 

 

 

 

Kirayoshi

Don't recall the details, but I understand the phrase 'his wife and kids are better off' was involved.

 

Tomaka

oh my, that's not very nice

 

LoneRaven

oh my goodness

 

LeafeeLeBeau

Oh my

 

Tomaka

I loved Steve irwin

 

Kirayoshi

He's like school in the summer.

 

Kirayoshi

No class.

 

Tomaka

lol

 

Kirayoshi

I thought Steve was a cool guy!

 

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Amokitty

Well Byrne gave a bit of a lecture at his Byrne Robotics site about how Irwin being a father should never have put himself in danger like that, forgetting that people put themselves in danger everyday. Police, circus performers you name it. A definite holier than thou tude.

 

Kirayoshi

A little nuts but passionate about wildlife preservation

 

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Tomaka

oops

 

Kirayoshi

And probably a cool guy to know!

 

Amokitty

That's cool Tomaka. :)

 

LoneRaven

Ah, and yeah, I bet he was a pretty cool guy to know.

 

Tomaka

I would have loved to have seen him

 

Kirayoshi

Okay, quick poll;

 

Amokitty

Byrne is such a sour puss I'm surprised the man still gets work.

 

Kirayoshi

Kitty and Peter, post "Torn":

 

Kirayoshi

Talk about it or let it fester?

 

Amokitty

Oh God, K. I dunno!!! *wrings hands*

 

Lia

Talk about it. Hopefully Kitty moves passed the anger and they can bond over their pain dealing with their imprisionment.

 

LoneRaven

i think they'll try to put it behind them for awhile, then it will come back at them sometime in the near future.

 

LoneRaven

yeah, perhaps.

 

Amokitty

By the way, Lia named the traitor correctly. *hands Lia HER no-prize* heh.

 

Kirayoshi

I'd hope they talk about it, but given the X-Men's track record, plus Joss Whedon's love of having characters keep things to themselves!

 

Tomaka

hmmm...it's an interesting question

 

Amokitty

I like your idea Lia.

 

Tomaka

I hope they talk about it and get it out of the way

 

Tomaka

that way, they can go back to being happy

 

Amokitty

Exactly!

 

Kirayoshi

And who should do the honors of taking down Cassandra for good?

 

Lia

I wonder though, if he'll keep them together. Afterall, since so many of his characters are based on Kit and Peter, in a way by giving them a happy ending he's giving all his couples one, kind of the way Kitty did when she had Scott and Jean end up together in her Pirate Kitty story.

 

Amokitty

How long have these two been happy anyway? Not long enough!!!

 

LoneRaven

it will probably be emma

 

Kirayoshi

I'd still like to see Kitty finish her off.

 

Amokitty

I hope not.

 

Kirayoshi

Between Genosha and the mindf**** she received, she should be the one.

 

Amokitty

Kitty needs to finish Nova!

 

LoneRaven

it's possible, considering joss' love for her

 

Kirayoshi

"You ever see Princess Bride? Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die!"

 

Lia

Hee hee. Love that movie!

 

Tomaka

i don't know.... I like the idea of Scott shooting up the strange Emma though... I cheered.

 

LoneRaven

i still think it might be emma though, cause it seems to me that nova is behind all of it and that's how emma redeems herself or something...

 

Tomaka

hehheh Mandi Petinkin

 

LoneRaven

i loved that part

 

Amokitty

I've heard about a lot of people bitching that Kitty's getting too much screen time. I love it though. She and Peter were both in limbo too long a while back.

 

LoneRaven

yup

 

Lia

It was a wonderful momentt. Now if he'd only shoot the other Emma, the world would be a better place.

 

LoneRaven

he grew his backbone back! :)

 

Tomaka

so does anyone know what's going on with the two Emmas yet?

 

LoneRaven

i think the other one might be a tool of nova, or a telepathic thing of emma's

 

Kirayoshi

I have a question; why hasn't Emma(the one Kitty left in the cave) turned herself into diamond and punched her way out?

 

Amokitty

Yeah, I'm still wondering if Emma really is Perfection or if it's Nova.

 

Kirayoshi

I suspect that Nova is the only person there who's 'real'!

 

LoneRaven

yeah, cause didnt that teenager die in genosha?

 

Amokitty

good question, Emma could get out if she wanted to. There's something going on there...

 

Tomaka

yeah, i think Madame Nova is manipulating/creating them all

 

LoneRaven

yeah, especially since shaw was so happy to be destroyed afterwards...

 

Amokitty

Negasonic is deader than a doornail.

 

Tomaka

Did Scott know the difference between his Emma and the Perfection Emma when he shot her, do you think?

 

LoneRaven

I don't think so.

 

Tomaka

I don't think Shaw was happy, I think he just saw it as an inevitability

 

LoneRaven

I think he thought it was the real Emma.

 

Kirayoshi

Anyone check out this new Fantastic Four cartoon on Cartoon Network?

 

Tomaka

no *shudders*

 

Amokitty

That was WEIRD. Shaw was just fine with being destroyed. Can't be him.

 

LoneRaven

yeah..

 

LoneRaven

i hope hank comes back into play soon..

 

Kirayoshi

That's why I think he isn't real!

 

Amokitty

Jeez, I haven't seen it, and haven't even heard much about it. So out of the loop here.

 

Tomaka

again, I think he saw it as scenario that was unavoidable. There's no way he could beat Nova, and he knows it.

 

Kirayoshi

It just started here, PST.

 

Tomaka

he's just accepting it

 

Amokitty

I'll have to DVR it, K.

 

Lia

FF is on now?

 

Kirayoshi

It's practically the only place to see Reed in character!

 

Amokitty

So WHO could beat Nova then? Very curious.

 

Tomaka

*beer can falls on Logan's head* Of all the things to knock him back into his senses :P

 

LoneRaven

hahah ya

 

LoneRaven

i loved his comment about perfection

 

Kirayoshi

And did anyone notice how Kitty took down Peter in her nightmare?

 

Amokitty

I love beer.

 

Lia

I loved that part! Very much in character with the way Whedon's been writing him.

 

Tomaka

maybe Logan'll do it? He'd chop her wrinkly little head off, just like he did with Mags

 

Amokitty

brb

 

Kirayoshi

Plus that line from #5; "If you're a shapeshifter or illusionist watching me twist, I'll kill you, I'

 

Kirayoshi

I'll kill you with an axe--"

 

Kirayoshi

Which is what she almost did.

 

LoneRaven

ohh yeah

 

Tomaka

oooohhhh.... I forgot about htat

 

Lia

Yeah, I noticed that too! Kinda makes sense, because Nova was probably pulling things out of Kitty's mind to fill in the blanks in the mind warp.

 

Kirayoshi

Oh, tonight's ep of FF: Thing vs. Hulk!

 

LoneRaven

yeah that would make sense

 

Tomaka

but if Peter's not real, that still doesn't explain why Ord is after him...

 

LoneRaven

i think hes real

 

Lia

I think Peter's real, just not the Peter in Kitty's head was an illusion.

 

LoneRaven

yeah

 

Amokitty

Back!

 

Lia

Can cartoon Sue Storm teleport people?

 

Amokitty

Oh crap, ord! there'll be no down time at all between arcs. Don't like that much.

 

Tomaka

that's good, I think he's real too. I wouldn't be a happy person if Peter was still dead

 

Kirayoshi

Teleport?

 

LoneRaven

heh...ord...I kinda want him and Danger to be together. I'm a little odd.

 

Amokitty

Heh, is the toon on Lia? Does Sue do something she's not supposed to?

 

Tomaka

they could make alien-cyborg babies

 

Lia

Yeah, it looked like she just teleported Johnny away from the Hulk. Or did she just turn him invisible and move him down the street real quick?

 

Kirayoshi

I think she turned Johnny invisible and pulled him out of harms way.

 

Kirayoshi

Maybe used her forcefield to yank him or something.

 

LoneRaven

i do not think she can do that

 

Amokitty

Tomaka!!! LOL.

 

Lia

Yeah, it's on now. Not too great, but at least their making Sue a pretty strong hero.

 

Kirayoshi

It was actually pretty cool last week.

 

Lia

Does anyone think Kitty might be pregnant before Joss leaves the book?

 

Amokitty

Mark's gonna record now!

 

Kirayoshi

They borrowed a subplot from the Fantastic Four/X-Men mini from the late 80s

 

LoneRaven

its possible. It could be one of the things behind novas illusion

 

Lia

I didn't catch FF last week. This one has the Hulk in it, so automatically it bores me.

 

Amokitty

OOOHHH! I've wondered this too Lia! I would LOVE that!

 

Tomaka

a pregnant kitty'd be cool

 

Tomaka

then she could actually use the line "I made it myself." That line made me giggle

 

LoneRaven

haha ya

 

Amokitty

I agree. It would be the one kernal of truth to the illusion.

 

Kirayoshi

Doctor Doom created fake computor files to convice the rest of the FF that Reed intentionally exposed them to the cosmic rays during their original flight.

 

Lia

It's one of the only ways to ensure they'll still be a couple after Joss leaves. That, and they said some people would leave the team. Maybe they quit to move away and have their happily ever after.

 

Kirayoshi

Could be interesting if Kitty was pregnant.

 

Lia

Was anyone dissappointed she had a boy? I was hoping it was going to be a girl and they could name her Illyana.

 

Tomaka

I bet you the deliver would be a breeze. Just phase, reach in, and pull the baby out : ::tongue

 

Kirayoshi

Although a boy named Michael(Mikhail) fits too.

 

Amokitty

I could live with that, Lia. That way no one could undo Joss' writing the way they did Morrison's. Not that I minded THAT, actually. Not a Morrison fan. Sorry.

 

Kirayoshi

I like Morrison's DC work a lot.

 

Amokitty

Somehow I always thought that Kitty and Peter's first would be a girl.

 

Kirayoshi

His Marvel work less so.

 

Kirayoshi

I'm surprised that she didn't call him Carmen.

 

Amokitty

Michael makes a certain kind of sense though. It's a Jewish name that can easily be translated to Russian. Mikhail.

 

LoneRaven

yeah

 

Amokitty

I wonder why Peter was so apathetic in the illusion. That couldn't make sense to Kitty. Was that why she called him a robot?

 

Lia

I thought it was a little odd that Micheal looked and even acted a little bit like Doug.

 

Tomaka

I was confused by the second half of the illusion

 

LoneRaven

i can't see him acting that way concerning his own child..

 

Amokitty

I loved the Doug mention. thank you Joss!

 

Kirayoshi

I think the idea was to make Kitty so singleminded in her quest to save 'Michael' that she ignorned everything and everyone else.

 

Amokitty

Yes, LoneRaven. Considering how much family means to Peter...

 

LoneRaven

yeah and especially with the whole illyana thing

 

LoneRaven

it was quite odd that he'd act that way

 

Amokitty

So who was controlling Kitty. Perfection or Nova?

 

Kirayoshi

Like I said, Nova wanted Kitty to ignore Peter if he tried to stop her from breaching the Manger.

 

Lia

The second half was a little confusing, Tomaka. Basically what I got out of it was that the X-Men took Michael and placed him in the manger, and put Kitty in another room so she couldn't help Michael escape, which is why she talked about singing to him when he couldn't hear it.

 

Kirayoshi

What better way than to make Kitty think that Peter betrayed her?

 

Tomaka

yes, how deceivingly evil that was

 

LoneRaven

Hmm true

 

Tomaka

but what was that gooey slug thing she pulled out?

 

Amokitty

The singing thing really got to me. Kitty would make such a great mom.

 

Kirayoshi

I just hope that once it's all over, they'll have a chance to talk about it!

 

Lia

Nova's body. What's left of it.

 

Tomaka

ew

 

Kirayoshi

She was a mom in the end of X-Men: The End, but we never saw the father.

 

Amokitty

Me too, K. I'm worried they won't though. Ord's out for Peter's hide.

 

Tomaka

I just hope that Nova doesn't get the chance to actually take over Kitty's body...that'd suck

 

Kirayoshi

I thought it was the Shi-ar corpse that they had imprisioned Nova's mind in.

 

LoneRaven

i think she'd rather take over emmas

 

Kirayoshi

I just had a flashback to Illyria here!

 

Amokitty

The hair joke... I laughed and laughed...

 

Amokitty

Stuff right?

 

Lia

I thought it was creepy. Why do villians who want to take over Kitty's body always mess with her hair?

 

Amokitty

LOL!

 

Amokitty

Her hair's fine! I've noticed that it's parted in the middle again like it was when she was 14. do you think that's why some people are fixated on Kitty being 'regressed'? ;)

 

Tomaka

I wonder how much of a fighting chance Scott'll get in the next issue.

 

Lia

I don't know, but I hated it when it was slicked back in the X-Treme issues.

 

Amokitty

Holy crap that last page blew ME away! forget Emma!

 

Kirayoshi

Hey, beats the short punk look she sported when Peter died!

 

Lia

That was horrible too.

 

Tomaka

I'm curious about his cured-ness. Does he still have his powers, but has control over them, or are they pretty much gone all together...

 

Amokitty

Me too, Lia. The barmaid outfit was okay, but the hair was wacked.

 

Lia

Well, it's Marvel, so no matter what, Scott'll be back to wearing his visor in a year.

 

LoneRaven

yeah i didnt like that hair either.

 

LoneRaven

you can't have scott without his shades or visor. doesn't look right..

 

Tomaka

I like short hair.... But that's probably because I have short hair :P

 

Kirayoshi

He's a bicyclops

 

Amokitty

Cyke used a gun. Why would he do that if he had his blasts? Did Emma neuter him, so to speak?

 

Lia

Oh, I never even thought of that! I hope he still has his blasts.

 

LoneRaven

maybe she just telepathically repressed them

 

Kirayoshi

Wouldn't it be ironic if, after all that "there's no room for humans at Xavier's" spiel post H of M, Scott lost his powers?

 

LoneRaven

kinda like with iceman, perhaps.

 

LoneRaven

Hah, yeah

 

Amokitty

Even if Em's 'innocent', she's still got a LOT of 'spaining to do!

 

LoneRaven

yupp

 

Kirayoshi

Seriously, the way he was acting after Decimation, I'm half-expecting him to start wearing a "Magneto was Right" t-shirt!

 

Amokitty

Oh that would be rich, K. Would Scott then kick himself outta the mansion? Heh.

 

Lia

Who would take over as Headmaster then? I doubt they'll let Emma have the job. And Storm and the Prof are gone.

 

LeafeeLeBeau

Kitty could. =D

 

Lia

She would be awesome!

 

LeafeeLeBeau

Hmm, or Beast.

 

LoneRaven

I could see Beast

 

Amokitty

Kitty and Peter could do a brilliant job!

 

LoneRaven

if he ever gets back to normal

 

LoneRaven

yeah, I agree with that as well

 

Lia

I could see Beast and Kitty as co-headmasters. I think Peter doesn't really want the responsibility right now.

 

Lia

Of course, if Kitty

 

Amokitty

I wonder what's going to become of Beast after this. It doesn't look too good.

 

LoneRaven

he lost his pants

 

Lia

is pregnant, she could take the job since she won't be able to fight on a team.;)

 

Amokitty

Ha!!

 

Amokitty

Poor Hank. Raw venison..... *shudders*

 

Kirayoshi

More than likely she'll end up heading back to Chicago to finish her degree.

 

Kirayoshi

Maybe she and Peter can go into semiretirement or something.

 

Amokitty

I'm fine with that if she takes Peter with her. If he sees Dr. Lysinsky (sp?) then maybe he could get his nightmares under control.

 

Lia

Does anyone know why Nova picked Kitty's body?

 

Kirayoshi

I had another idea regarding Peter.

 

LoneRaven

hmm it just occured to me. I don't think she's pregnant. When was the last time someone had an actual kid instead of someone just popping in from an alternate future, or the future?

 

LoneRaven

I think it was Madelyne..

 

Kirayoshi

We're due for one then!

 

Amokitty

I'm not sure Lia. She's a telepath. wouldn't she want a telepath for a host body? I'm confused by this.

 

LoneRaven

I'm pretty sure she was talking to Perfection

 

Amokitty

Tell us, K!

 

LoneRaven

and it just showed kitty unconcious

 

Kirayoshi

I find myself wondering if Peter might be suffering from a benign tumor?

 

Lia

You know, I always kinda liked the idea that Illyana was Peter and Kitty's kid and that they sent her back in time hrough Limbo to protect her or something like that

 

Amokitty

Tumor???

 

Kirayoshi

It could explain his occasional tendencies toward bezerker.

 

Amokitty

Wow, Lia. That would make a GREAT story! *hint* ;)

 

Tomaka

he's just an uptight guy

 

Kirayoshi

A small cluster of cancer cells pressing against his brain, it'

 

Kirayoshi

it's possible.

 

Lia

or maybe the Executioner's brain damage was never fully fixed?

 

Amokitty

I'd take that over Rasputin's demonic spirit anyday, K!

 

Tomaka

I kind of think that Peter was just affected by the whole Ord thing more than we know

 

Kirayoshi

not so much brain damage, because it has nothing to do with any physical injury.

 

LoneRaven

yeah

 

Kirayoshi

He wasn't affected by Ord when he coldcocked Pete Wisdom!

 

Kirayoshi

Just by OOC writing!

 

Tomaka

true

 

Tomaka

but I'm glad he gave Pete a good whack. I never liked Pete

 

Amokitty

Ha! too true. Then again if any one of us could be there, well WE'D coldcock him too!!!

 

Kirayoshi

Not until AFTER we got to know him!

 

Lia

I'd like to burn him in the eye with one of his own cigarettes. Cause that makes me sound sane.

 

Amokitty

I'm learning now that there are fans of BOTH Wisdom and Colossus. I didn't think this was possible, but I'm finding out otherwise.

 

LoneRaven

I like Wisdom. I just think he needs to stay away from Kitty. And from Sage.

 

Kirayoshi

I don't hate Pete, I just wish that he had been given some character development before he got together with Kitty.

 

Lia

Both ladies are way too good for that man!

 

LoneRaven

He can be pretty amusing at times. I like Colossus much better though.

 

LoneRaven

Yup

 

Amokitty

I'm curious as to who Pete will hook up with in his new mini.

 

Kirayoshi

Rose Tyler?

 

LoneRaven

It's probably going to be Sage.

 

Amokitty

I've heard there's plenty of sex in it.

 

LoneRaven

That's where New Excalibur seems to be going..

 

LoneRaven

oh my

 

Kirayoshi

It's a MAX title!

 

LeafeeLeBeau

It best not be Sage.

 

Lia

Hee hee. You're funny, Kirayoshi.

 

Kirayoshi

whaddya want?

 

Amokitty

K, that's too funny!

 

Kirayoshi

Hey, the writer did some Doctor Who, why not?

 

Kirayoshi

They can make Pete Wisdom into Jack Harkness!

 

Kirayoshi

Maybe he's bi!

 

Amokitty

LOL!!! Oh My Dear God!!

 

LoneRaven

haha hmm

 

Kirayoshi

Don't laugh, Jack Harkness is a cool character!

 

Amokitty

He WAS a cool character.

 

Kirayoshi

He still is.

 

Amokitty

Long gone now.

 

Kirayoshi

Next year on BBC he's back in his own show, Torchwood.

 

Tomaka

hmmm....so now I'm sitting here, rereading iss. 17, wondering: "What's up with Blindfold?"

 

Kirayoshi

He was so popular on Doctor Who that they gave him a spinoff!

 

Tomaka

she said she had orders for Peter, and last issue, she was talking to someone...

 

Amokitty

The orders mention of her with Peter. That was strange.

 

Tomaka

Maybe she had been talking to Scott telepathically.

 

Kirayoshi

I'm thinking that the real Emma was communicating with Blindfold in #16(when Blindfold was seemingly talking to herself)

 

Tomaka

maybe that's how he woke up, she did it for him

 

Lia

Ooh, good point. She knows something we don't. Maybe she's friends with Layla Miller.

 

Amokitty

Really, K? Wow, that didn't take long did it?

 

LoneRaven

ooh thats a very good point

 

Kirayoshi

And Emma was using Blindfold as an ace in the hole to take down Nova.

 

LoneRaven

it's possible

 

Amokitty

Lia!!!! Heh. clever woman....

 

Kirayoshi

That also provided a red herring in the "who's the mole?" subplot!

 

Tomaka

maybe, if Blindie's strong enough, maybe she's protecting Scott from Nova

 

LoneRaven

i figured she was talking with scott or something.

 

LoneRaven

maybe

 

Kirayoshi

And I still say Emma should drill her way out of that cave next issue!

 

Tomaka

yeah

 

Tomaka

maybe Nova will wipe their minds and make them forget she's down there :P Then she could just rot XD

 

LoneRaven

and i think Blindfold mentioned that they were going to lose another one. That could have been false, as Scott shot perfection, when she looks like Emma and he seemed to think she was.

 

LoneRaven

so that's what she could have meant...

 

LoneRaven

Haha I'd like that, Tomaka

 

Kirayoshi

At this point, I would never try to second guess Joss!

 

Kirayoshi

He's got a few hats he hasn't checked for rabbits yet.

 

Lia

I was wondering, Stuff was a shapeshifter, right?

 

Amokitty

Yes. At least that was Morrison made it to be.

 

Amokitty

I didn't know that stuff was a worm slimeball though. "I saved our son". Hoo boy!

 

LoneRaven

that panel made me laugh a bit

 

LoneRaven

she looked quite insane

 

Lia

And when did Nova merge with him? After the Shiar arc, right?

 

Amokitty

That whole scene was insane!

 

Kirayoshi

That scene reminded me of the old adage: The most dangerous place in the world to stand is between a mother and her child.

 

Tomaka

and that pic of Peter's eyes rolling back in his head...that was just a wee bit disturbing

 

Amokitty

Not sure Lia. I thought it was during 'Imperial".

 

LoneRaven

I loved his expression after she said i saved our son.

 

Kirayoshi

Was it a natural expression or just his mind being shut down by Nova?

 

Lia

Yeah, poor Peter looked confused. And terrified!

 

Amokitty

And they both get knocked on their asses. Scott to the rescue!

 

Kirayoshi

Line I want to read at the end of this story; "Emma, you'll never see me naked again."

 

LoneRaven

i'd love to see that

 

Tomaka

heheheh

 

Amokitty

I think everybody else gained their control back when they did, because the focus shifted completely with Kitty. Thus, Logan, Peter, and Scott regained control. but what about Hank I wonder?

 

Lia

I was reading up on Wikipedia that Emma was the one that tricked Nova into merging with Stuff to stop her from causing more problems. I wonder if that was a trick, and Stuff shapeshifted into the 'imposter' Emma that Cassandra was talking about.

 

Amokitty

Interesting theory. Then who is the slug that Kitty's holding?

 

Kirayoshi

Eenie?

 

Kirayoshi

Or was it Meenie?

 

Amokitty

heh. :)

 

Lia

Good point. Though it would teach Scott a valuable lesson about not cheating on Jean.;)

 

Kirayoshi

No one remembers Maggot, huh?

 

Lia

LOL! Poor Maggot.

 

Amokitty

I don't find myself missing Maggott on ebit.

 

Kirayoshi

Hey, I still wanna see Cecilia Reyes come back!

 

Kirayoshi

I didn't say I missed him, just a joke.

 

LoneRaven

I'd like to see her back. Not so much Maggot. He always bothered me

 

Amokitty

And a cute one at that K. :)

 

Kirayoshi

Aww shucks

 

Amokitty

CeCe had potential. I'm tired of seeing an angsting Hank. Somebody use Cece for heaven's sake.

 

Kirayoshi

So, who read Civil War 4?

 

Kirayoshi

(dodges tomatoes)

 

Lia

I'm not touching the whole CW stuff. The plots always piss me off.

 

Kirayoshi

Same here.

 

LoneRaven

Not me. Civil War kinda bores me. I get Civil War X-men though. I can't stay away from X-force.

 

Amokitty

haven't read it. Not happy with Civil War, so I'm not buying.

 

Lia

They're destroying Reed and Sue!

 

LoneRaven

they're destroying a lot of people

 

Kirayoshi

So, no one likes seeing Reed and Tony doing their "Doctor Doom" impressions?

 

Amokitty

Reed is now a first class asshole. I hate this.

 

Kirayoshi

I still say that Doom mindswapped with Reed just before CW #2.

 

LoneRaven

the spiderman revealing his identity to the public just cause tony told him to was ridiculous

 

Lia

I'm hoping Thor's not the only clone. Maybe then they can explain away Reed and Tony being such jack asses.

 

Amokitty

Yes it was!!!!!! So OOC.

 

Kirayoshi

I hope Spider-Man kicks Iron Man's metal butt!

 

Amokitty

brb.

 

LoneRaven

ok

 

Kirayoshi

Or we can see Kitty get involved by phasing Tony out of his armor!

 

Kirayoshi

She actually did that once in an Avengers annual!

 

LoneRaven

really? what one?

 

Amokitty

Which one, K?

 

Lia

I was really dissappointed in Cassie signing up for the pro-reg side.

 

Kirayoshi

Dunno which issue, but it was just after Kitty first joined the team.

 

Kirayoshi

She was still Sprite at the time.

 

LoneRaven

ah

 

Kirayoshi

Cassie?

 

Lia

Stature from Young Avengers

 

Kirayoshi

I thought she was coerced.

 

Amokitty

When I hear Cassie I think BatGirl or WonderGirl.

 

Amokitty

Ah.

 

Kirayoshi

When I think Cassie, I think DC screwed up!

 

Lia

Really? That makes me feel better. I got my info second hand from a friend who left that part out.

 

Amokitty

heh.

 

Kirayoshi

I didn't read YA, but I had read on CBR that some of the pro-reg heroes were strongarmed into joining Tony.

 

Kirayoshi

So I could be wrong too, but it seems to make more sense that way.

 

Lia

I hope that was it. i like her, and can't see her betraying her team.

 

Kirayoshi

Anyone interested in Runaways next year?

 

Amokitty

And that's one of many reasons I hate CW. I don't even recognize these people anymore. I've read about the heavy handedness that Tony and Reed are using to get people to join their cause. Ugh.

 

Lia

Yeah, but I got to admit, I feel a little abandoned by Joss. I want him to stay on Astonishing longer! Though he's probably the only writer besides BKV who'll do those kids justice.

 

Lia

Anyone think maybe Joss and Vaughn are doing a swap, and he'll be writing Astonishing next?

 

Kirayoshi

I wonder who'll take over Astonishing?

 

Amokitty

I wholeheartedly agree, Lia. I'll miss Joss something fierce.

 

Kirayoshi

Didn't Vaughn do Ultimate X-Men?

 

LoneRaven

i cant imagine anyone else on the book

 

Amokitty

Yes.

 

LoneRaven

ugh ultimate

 

Amokitty

He wrote it before Kirkman took over.

 

LoneRaven

ugh, kirkman

 

Kirayoshi

Great. If he does AXM, someone please remind him that Colossus isn't gay in this universe!

 

Amokitty

Hee!

 

Lia

Hee hee. Didn't like the Magician, Loneraven?

 

LoneRaven

if he does AXM I'm going to be upset

 

LoneRaven

haha no I did not

 

LoneRaven

and I do not like how he wrote Rogue.

 

Kirayoshi

Magician was Kirkman's story.

 

Kirayoshi

I like Kirkman, but he didn't get UXM.

 

Kirayoshi

Suddenly Nightcrawler's a homophobic slimebag? I don't think so!

 

Amokitty

I don't like what's happening with Nightcrawler either. Kirkman is ruining Kurt!!!

 

LoneRaven

i agree

 

Amokitty

Obsessed with Dazzler?? As if!

 

LoneRaven

hah, she was unconcious most of the time.

 

Lia

At least Vaughn actually tried to seperate the ultimate u from the 616 u and attempted to make the characters somewhat likeable. Kirkman just reconned everything away and made the team into an even bigger set of dicks.

 

LoneRaven

yupp

 

Kirayoshi

Not to mention that the Spider-Man/Kitty subplot seems to be getting swept under the rug.

 

Amokitty

I don't collect Ultimate anymore. I stopped once Peter started dating Jean-Paul. Couldn't take it.

 

LoneRaven

I stopped when Rogue and Gambit left

 

LoneRaven

and the art made me throw up

 

LoneRaven

it got reallly bad after cry wolf

 

Lia

Raney's stuff? I don't like it either.

 

Amokitty

Now Rogue and bobby are back together like nothing ever happened! WTH???

 

Lia

And Gambit's alive and his conciousness is gone from Rogue.

 

Amokitty

Really?

 

Kirayoshi

Missed that one!

 

Amokitty

I KNEW hw wouldn't stay dead!

 

LoneRaven

i hated how she jumped him the first issue she was back

 

Kirayoshi

I guess since Gambit in the MU is now a villain, they needed a good-guy Gambit back or something.

 

Amokitty

Ultimate gives me headaches. I'm better off without it.

 

LoneRaven

yeah, i'm probably going to buy the next few issues, because I'm a Domino/Cable shipper and they're in it

 

LoneRaven

It will probably be bad, but I'll still get them.

 

Amokitty

I don't know how on earth they're gonna explain that one! Scott is much younger in this 'verse, and Maddy doesn't exist.

 

LoneRaven

he's not going to be scotts son

 

LoneRaven

hes supposed to be completely different from 616 Cable

 

Amokitty

I haven't read Ultimate Spidey lately. how are things with him and Kitty?

 

Amokitty

Gotcha.

 

LoneRaven

I don't know. I bought the last issues, cause Gwens back

 

Lia

Probably not good. Gwen is back and a spidey clone is experimenting with giving MJ powers

 

LoneRaven

I haven't seen her for awhile, except when she threw a hissy fit at him.

 

Kirayoshi

Haven't seen much of her since the Clone saga started.

 

LoneRaven

yeah

 

Kirayoshi

Oh, and Aunt May's gone nuts.

 

LoneRaven

yeah, everyone in ultimate just seems to be more of a jerk than their 616 counterpart

 

Amokitty

Isn't she dating Doc Ock??

 

Kirayoshi

No, Miles Warren!

 

Kirayoshi

Even worse!

 

Amokitty

He sure is!

 

Lia

And she threw Pete out of the house. After his father showed up after only pretending to be dead. It's worse than Days of our Lives.

 

Kirayoshi

I never thought I'd say this, but someone please kill Aunt May!

 

Amokitty

*laughs*

 

LoneRaven

haha wow

 

LoneRaven

maybe Peter will take Gwen with him or something

 

Kirayoshi

My prediction; Peter and MJ will get back together, and two months later in UXM, we'll meet Ultimate Pete Wisdom!

 

LoneRaven

ugh

 

Lia

I think he'll have to, since May kicked Gwen out of the house too. She said she was an 'it' .

 

LoneRaven

yeah

 

Amokitty

Since K and Lia guessed the destroyer and the mole, any guesses as to who might replace Joss?

 

Lia

I think it's BKV. He and Whedon are swapping.

 

Kirayoshi

Jane Espenson?

 

Kirayoshi

Marti Noxon?

 

Lia

NOOO!

 

Kirayoshi

Could be worse, could be Bendis!

 

Lia

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

 

Amokitty

Could you enlighten little ol' ignorant me?

 

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Kirayoshi

See, this way, no matter who they get, we'll know it ain't the worst thing in the world!

 

Lia

That's not true! I could be Ellis!

 

Kirayoshi

Espenson and Noxon were co-writers for BtVS and Angel.

 

Amokitty

Bendis, oh God no! Please!!!! he killed Alpha Fight!

 

Kirayoshi

Bendis should stick to his creator owned titles.

 

Lia

Noxon was a man hating hack who was responsible for all the crap that happened in Buffy after Joss left at the end of season 5. She's also the lady who sang about the parking ticket in 'Once more with Feeling'.

 

Amokitty

Thanks, K. :)

 

Amokitty

Really Lia? Well then, she obviously sucks! this would never do.

 

Kirayoshi

So, you're not a fan of 'magic-druggie' Willow?

 

Kirayoshi

Neither am I.

 

Lia

Blech!

 

Lia

And that's all I have to say about that.

 

Amokitty

It was all downhill for poor Buffy once season 6 ansd especially 7 started.

 

Kirayoshi

Seriously, what was magic supposed to be a metaphor for anyway?

 

Kirayoshi

Season 2 and 3 it was a metaphor for Willow'

 

Kirayoshi

Willow's growth and empowerment.

 

Kirayoshi

Season 4 and 5 it became a metaphor for lesbianism.

 

Kirayoshi

Season 6 it became a metaphor for drug addiction.

 

Lia

Season six it was a metaphor for hack writing.

 

Amokitty

The Scoobies lost their cohesion.

 

Kirayoshi

No, that was Spike/Buffy.

 

LoneRaven

dark willow was a homage to dark phoenix

 

LoneRaven

thats what i read on wikipedia, anyways

 

Kirayoshi

Shoehorning them into a relationship because some fangirls wanted their shirtless James

 

Lia

Don't say that Kirayoshi! I worked so hard to repress Spike/Buffy....

 

Kirayoshi

Marsters.

 

Amokitty

I've always wondered if the creation of Spike meant that Joss is an Ellis fan.

 

Lia

I got to admit, being a seventeen year old girl when season six came out, I very much appreciated shirtless James Marsters....

 

Lia

Until he started banging Buffy, that is.

 

Amokitty

LOL! the hair was a turn off for me actually.

 

Kirayoshi

I read that essay on the LiveJournal board about the similarities between Buffy/Angel/Spike and Kitty/Peter/Pete.

 

Amokitty

Yeah, and there's a lot of them. It can't be coincidence.

 

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Lia

Hey Darkstorm!

 

Amokitty

Hello Darkstorm!! Good of you to come!!! :)

 

darkstorm5000

Hello, everybody!

 

Kirayoshi

And given the whole Kitty/Shan thing in Mekanix, does this mean that if there were an eighth season, Buffy would have gotten together with Willow?

 

Kirayoshi

Hey Darkstorm!

 

darkstorm5000

Glad to be here

 

Amokitty

You wish, K!!!! ;)

 

Kirayoshi

I'd have preferred to see Buffy/Willow or Buffy/Xander than Buffy/Spike.

 

Amokitty

Xander reminds me of Simon from Firefly. but that's just me.

 

Lia

I didn't mind Buffy/Spike post him getting his soul, and provided he had never tried to rape her in season six.

 

LoneRaven

he reminds me of jimmy olsen.

 

Amokitty

Ha!!

 

Amokitty

The rape issue soured things for me. but then again I'd always wanted Buffy to be with Angel anyway!

 

Lia

Buffy and Angel forever!

 

Kirayoshi

I didn't like Spike post-soul because it felt like they were trying too hard to make him into Angel 2.0!

 

Lia

True. That's kinda why I liked him. It felt like watching Bufft and Angel again.

 

Lia

Except Spike was a bit of a wussy.

 

Amokitty

This is the main reason why I'm worried for Kitty and Peter. If Joss didn't care enough to bring Buffy and Angel back together, then what hope does our OTP ultimately have? I worry and I can't help it!!!

 

Kirayoshi

We'll just have to see.

 

Lia

Because Buffy and Angel's breakup was madated by money. They couldn't be together and have two seperate shows on two seperate networks.

 

Kirayoshi

Besides, if Joss does break 'em up, the next writer can get 'em together if he/she wants.

 

Lia

Plus, SMG refused to come back after Buffy ended. That's why they used Cordy in episode 100, instead of Buffy, which was the oriinal plan. It's also why they never met up with her in 'The Girl in Question'

 

LoneRaven

i liked that they used cordy. it worked well.

 

Amokitty

She was some nameless blond chick dancing in Rome wasn't she?

 

LoneRaven

yeah

 

Kirayoshi

Something like that.

 

darkstorm5000

I think that purely storyline-wise (ignoring the realities of TV show production and life-span), he would've eventually brought them back together following their extended separation. Ala Kitty and Peter now.

 

Kirayoshi

I wonder if we'll see something like that when Joss starts writing his Buffy comic for Dark Horse.

 

Amokitty

IF he ever gets to it!!

 

darkstorm5000

That'd be nice

 

Lia

I hope so. The Immortal sounded stupid, and I sure don't want to see Angel end up with boring Nina!

 

Kirayoshi

He's contracted to do it.

 

LoneRaven

the immortal was lame.

 

Amokitty

But between the WW movie Astonishing, then Runaways..... man's damn busy.

 

Lia

He reminded me of Dracula.

 

Kirayoshi

In the novel Queen of the Slayers, the Immortal turned out to be the lead villain.

 

Kirayoshi

Buffy at one point complained, "My taste in men sucks!"

 

Amokitty

If Joss is a Kiotr like I suspect he is, then why is Peter getting nothing in the way of monologues or dialogue in this series?

 

Lia

Joss says he has trouble writing him. I guess that's the only reason, unless he's been saving him for the next issue.

 

LoneRaven

maybe

 

Amokitty

I miss the in-depth exploration of his character. His mini doesn't count!

 

Kirayoshi

Since Peter's getting the spotlight in the final arc, we may have some major character development from him finally.

 

LoneRaven

hopefully

 

Kirayoshi

Chronicles of Narnia is on one of the cable channels.

 

Kirayoshi

Man that was a fun movie.

 

Amokitty

I hope so. It's overdue. There's a lot of questions concerning his part in the destruction of Breakworld.

 

Lia

Really? Too bad I just lost my premium channels. They'd been accidently giving us those for free for the longest time.

 

darkstorm5000

I'd hoped he was building up to something major with him

 

Amokitty

I'm becoming addicted to HBO and Showtime On Demand!

 

Lia

HBO's great, but I can live without them provided I still get Bravo. I gotta have my Project Runway!

 

Kirayoshi

I watch a lot of Law and Order: Criminal Intent.

 

Amokitty

Well DS, there hasn't been a lot of conversation between him and Kitty. The talk about nothing changes except the costumes, and Kitty going to Genosha were short.

 

Lia

I watch that too. I hate the changes they made. It feels like it's a rerun from the 80's.

 

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Amokitty

hey Sweetheart!

 

darkstorm5000

Yeah, I know. I guess I've been hoping for a change on that front too

 

amocat

back again..

 

Amokitty

I want more dialogue. Pure and simple.

 

LeafeeLeBeau

I think I shall be off.

 

LeafeeLeBeau

G'Night all. =]

 

Lia

Night, Leafee!

 

Amokitty

It was good to have you here, Leafee!

 

LoneRaven

bye Leafee

 

Kirayoshi

Later Leafee.

 

darkstorm5000

Goodnight

 

Amokitty

Please come back next time.:)

 

LeafeeLeBeau

Ohh, before I forget, I'd liked to ask if I can use the pictures on this site for icons and fan videos... may I? ^-6^

 

Amokitty

Certainly! Credit is nice when applicable though! help yourself! :)

 

LeafeeLeBeau

Thanks. ^_^.

 

LeafeeLeBeau

Bye.

 

Amokitty

Night!

 

Kirayoshi

And let us know what the vid looks like.

 

LeafeeLeBeau

Will do.

 

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LoneRaven

She actually already has a kiotr vid, if anyones seen it. It's on youtube.

 

Amokitty

Her video was wonderful!

 

LoneRaven

with her own scans, of course.

 

LoneRaven

yupp :)

 

Kirayoshi

I saw that one.

 

Amokitty

The link can be found on the LJ Kiotr Comm.

 

Kirayoshi

My December?

 

Amokitty

Yep.

 

Kirayoshi

Very nice.

 

darkstorm5000

I'll have to check it out

 

Amokitty

I wonder why Rose isn't with us. she specifically told me that she'd be here. Hope everything's okay. She's had a rough time of it lately....

 

Kirayoshi

How is she these days?

 

Amokitty

I'll e-mail you the link DS.

 

darkstorm5000

Cool...

 

Amokitty

Rose is okay from what I can interpret. She's trying to adjust to the loss of her mother and it's been difficult. My heart goes out to her.

 

Kirayoshi

Oh, I'm sorry to hear that.

 

Kirayoshi

If you hear from her, tell her she's in my thoughts.

 

Amokitty

She's not the demonstrative type so it's hard to guess exactly how she's doing, but I spoke with her just a couple of days ago, and she seemed to be coping..... I hope she can swing by at some point.....

 

Amokitty

I will do that, dear. :)

 

darkstorm5000

That's sad to hear, my condolences...

 

Lia

Yeah, it's always hard to loose a loved one. I hope she heal soon.

 

Amokitty

I might try to e-mail her in a bit. See if I can each her.

 

Amokitty

Reach, that is....

 

Amokitty

She was bowled over with Astonishing. She loved it!

 

Amokitty

Personally, I think that Joss is trying to kill, but what do I know?? Heh.

 

Kirayoshi

Yeah, that was one gut-wrench of an issue, especially the alternate reality Nova created to manipulate Kitty.

 

Amokitty

Kill ME, I meant. Jesus, I can't type tonight!

 

Amokitty

Joss was a big fan of the Morrison run wasn't he?

 

darkstorm5000

I think he just picks and chooses

 

Lia

Yeah. He also went back and looked at Emma and Kitty's early issues, so he's mixing in everything.

 

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Amokitty

Morrison's run is confusing for me though. So naturally this Stuff stuff is confusing too.

 

J_Harper

hallo.

 

Lia

Hey hon.

 

Amokitty

Jeremy, hi!!

 

Kirayoshi

Good to hear from ya, J.

 

darkstorm5000

Hi, Jeremy

 

J_Harper

Hey shweetie.

 

Kirayoshi

We were talking about how much Joss likes to torture us.

 

J_Harper

Hi everyone.

 

Amokitty

He's out to kill me!

 

J_Harper

Heh. :)

 

Amokitty

Kitty's torture is MY torture.

 

Kirayoshi

I still want to see Kitty go Inigo Montoya on Nova!

 

J_Harper

Well, as I said to you in an e-mail, he's definitely a believer in the protagonist in the beartrap school of writing.

 

LoneRaven

I'm going to go now, everyone. Until next time. Bye : )

 

Amokitty

I've read Avalon, but I'm not familiar to this school of thought of Zimmer-Bradley's.

 

J_Harper

Take care.

 

Kirayoshi

Later Raven.

 

Lia

Night, Loneraven!

 

darkstorm5000

Good Night, Lone Raven

 

Amokitty

LoneRaven, thank you for coming! It was cool of you to join us!

 

LoneRaven

byes :)

 

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Amokitty

Bye!

 

J_Harper

Well, it's something an editor told her a long time ago, when she started to write. Basically, a good story starts with your protagonist's butt in a beartrap, and the story is about how he or she gets out of it.

 

J_Harper

I've actually haven't read Bradley, but I read her saying that in a profile of her, and it's stuck with me.

 

Amokitty

Ah-ha. Thank you for explaining. :)

 

Amokitty

Her work is quite good. Gripping even.

 

Kirayoshi

J, I know you don't like to hang around CBR, but there's a cool new Kitty story on the Write Me an X thread.

 

J_Harper

Oh?

 

Kirayoshi

Sort of an ongoing story by a new writer named Melody Rider.

 

J_Harper

Lia, are you using a different computer? I don't see you on my buddy list.

 

Kirayoshi

First chapter featured a group of original Scottish mutant criminals.

 

J_Harper

Hmmmm... Maybe I'll check it out.

 

Kirayoshi

Second chapter introduces Anticipation, a being who can counter the powers of others automatically.

 

Lia

No, I'm not sighed into AIM. It was giving me trouble.

 

J_Harper

Ah. Just wondering.

 

Kirayoshi

Plus an intriguing twist regarding the Neo.

 

Amokitty

I'm going to e-mail Rose, guys. BRB.

 

J_Harper

'kay.

 

J_Harper

How's it been on the CBRF? Enough to give one a stroke?

 

Kirayoshi

Quiet actually.

 

Kirayoshi

Lot of grousing about Civil War and how Reed's making Doom look likable!

 

J_Harper

Reed probably is Doom, right now. I mean, I heard that Thor's a LMD.

 

Kirayoshi

Clone

 

Kirayoshi

And I'm beginning to subscribe to that theory myself.

 

Kirayoshi

Doom does have the ability to swap minds with others, although he doesn't do it a lot.

 

J_Harper

I haven't really been keeping track of it. Neither of the big events on either company have really interested me. Probably another sign of my growing dissatisfaction with comics right now.

 

Kirayoshi

I never liked big events much myself.

 

Lia

Speaking of mind swapping, who thinks Cassandra is going to succeed (temporarily, of course!) in taking over our Kitty's body?

 

J_Harper

Ugh! That's a terrible thought....

 

Kirayoshi

Oh please!

 

J_Harper

But it'd make an interesting end-game complication. Maybe not even a mind-swap, but maybe she implants a shard of her self into Kitty for future complications.

 

Amokitty

I'm wondering if it was Nova who was the one in issue 6 that said that Peter was

 

Kirayoshi

OY!

 

Amokitty

Was a good looking boy?

 

Amokitty

Whoops!

 

J_Harper

Ack! Even more terrible! But just because you're old and withered doesn't mean you lose your sex drive.

 

Kirayoshi

Considering that Nova is probably the only member of the HC who's real, that kinda narrows the field, don't it?

 

Lia

Yeah, I think that was her. After all those years of being sewer sludge, she must be horny as hell!;)

 

J_Harper

LOL!

 

Amokitty

If Nova gets Kitty's body and thinks Peter's good looking...? Ummm, don't wanna go there!

 

J_Harper

You know, if something like that does occur, it'll remind me of what happened in Swamp Thing, with Abigail and Arcane.

 

Lia

It'll be Faith and Reily, part 2.

 

Kirayoshi

Oh God, that was horrifying!

 

Kirayoshi

Just in this case, we

 

Kirayoshi

we'll at least be spared the incest subtext!

 

J_Harper

I forgot about that. Faith and Reilly.

 

J_Harper

Well, I think Nova could learn a few atrocity lessons from Arcane.

 

Amokitty

I remember the Moore Abby/Swamp Thing issues! They were damn good!

 

Amokitty

The fruit thing was definitely weird though...

 

J_Harper

I mean, any wacko can wipe out a small country. It takes an artist to come up with some of the things Arcane did.

 

Kirayoshi

I dunno, she mindf***ed Kitty but good!

 

Amokitty

She did! The baby scenario was a stroke of mad genius!

 

J_Harper

When I read that, I said out loud, 'you bitch'.

 

Amokitty

Hah!

 

Kirayoshi

In fact we were earlier debating whether or not she came up with the baby idea because Kitty was pregnant.

 

J_Harper

I don't usually comment like that when I read.

 

J_Harper

Well, that is a possibility. I can hear the Kete howls from here.

 

Kirayoshi

And for the second time since the title started, Kitty threatened to kill Peter with an axe.

 

darkstorm5000

THAT would be twisted on Nova's part

 

Amokitty

OMG! the wars would rage anew!! Because K is right. It's been quiet lately. Lovely peace.

 

J_Harper

Nova probably plundered Kitty's memories for ammunition.

 

Kirayoshi

That would explain her implanted memory of being imprisoned for so long.

 

J_Harper

With the robot comments, and the axe.

 

Kirayoshi

Taken from what Ord did to Peter.

 

Amokitty

Didn't CC make Kitty a lot harder to break telepathically? Isn't that why she called to fight against Bogan?

 

J_Harper

Claremont always gives her powerboosts, and the other writers, for better or worse, forget about them.

 

Lia

Yeah, but Nova's omega level. Maybe that changes things

 

Amokitty

True. Nova is something else altogether.

 

J_Harper

I'm all for powerful women in fiction, but Claremont goes so over the top with it, it gets obnoxious.

 

Kirayoshi

Plus when Perfection revealed that she was the White Queen, it might have provided enough of a distraction for Nova to get into Kitty's head.

 

Kirayoshi

The whole "Yeahbuwhat?" moment.

 

darkstorm5000

CC was into secondary mutations (unexplained new powers) before Morrison put a name to it

 

Lia

Maybe Nova and the White Queen were combning their powers

 

Kirayoshi

Although CC's tended to make more sense.

 

Tomaka left.

 

 

Amokitty

I wonder if Lockheed will turn around and let Kitty and the others know more about S.W.O.R.D. and the Peak? A double agent??

 

darkstorm5000

True, most of the time...

 

Lia

I think he's just trying to protect his girl.

 

Kirayoshi

I still suspect that Emma was playing both sides to protect the X-Men before Kitty imprisoned her.

 

J_Harper

Secondary mutations have always been implicit. Heck, way back in issue 3, or 4, Magneto could send out mental projections. Nightcrawler had his blending ability, Scott his spatial abilities and Gambit his enhanced dexterity.

 

J_Harper

That's usually Lockheed's motivation. Though I wonder if that hissing alien is capable of mentally subverting creatures of similar species.

 

Kirayoshi

Plus Lockheed is fond of Peter as well, so if he's being ordered to go against him, I suspect that'll be the breaking strain.

 

Amokitty

It's funny how Brand thinks every one of them is stupid. Joss makes me laugh.

 

J_Harper

I want to know who the real White Queen, the one down in the oubilette, or the one Scott just shot.

 

Amokitty

It would test his loyalty to it's limit, wouldn't it?

 

Kirayoshi

I'm still wondering why Emma hasn't gone diamond and tried to tunnel her way out!

 

darkstorm5000

The current million dollar question, although my money's on the basement

 

Amokitty

I think it has to be 'nice' Emma. there would be riots in the streets if she were the White Queen!

 

Lia

I think she's too far down the Earth. She would probably just cause a rockslide and bury herself in.

 

J_Harper

That's a thought that warms your heart, doesn't it, sweetie? ;)

 

Amokitty

Oh but I wish, Lia! I WISH.

 

Amokitty

Scott with no visor will take some getting used to. I wonder how long he'll go without it?

 

J_Harper

I give it a year.

 

Kirayoshi

You follow Runaways any, J?

 

J_Harper

I'm two issues behind. I heard about Whedon taking over.

 

Kirayoshi

Could be entertaining.

 

Kirayoshi

Plus if they keep the digest sized trades, it'll be easier on my pocket.

 

J_Harper

Oh, Amo, if Brubaker is a jerk to you, tell him that he isn't Alan Moore, Stan Lee, or the Holy Ghost, and to get the stick out of his butt. ;)

 

Amokitty

Lia, did Jeremy mention that I have the picture he requested?

 

J_Harper

Ack! I forgot about it. :(

 

Amokitty

How did you know, jeremy????

 

J_Harper

It was on your blog for like half a day. Then I think you removed it.

 

Lia

No! Bad Jeremy. No cookie for you! Or other good things.;)

 

J_Harper

LOL! :)

 

Kirayoshi

Ooh, lover's spat!

 

Amokitty

Huh. I just met him about 4 1/2 hrs. ago. And yeah, he was an ass.

 

J_Harper

I accept my punishment with humility. ;)

 

J_Harper

How bad was it?

 

Amokitty

Ha!

 

Lia

Where can I see the picture? On your Kiotr site?

 

Amokitty

he ignored me basically. Couldn't engage him in any conversation. It's like I wasn't even there. Never had a writer be so rude to me.

 

J_Harper

I wonder if Joey da Q cultivates this attitude in his favorites. I've heard Bendis is arrogant as well, and you can feel the attitude in everythign Millar does.

 

Amokitty

I'll be sure to post them at the site in a few days Lia. In one of them Colossus is wearing a fur bikini!!!! *fans self*

 

Kirayoshi

That would explain why Busiek went exclusive with DC.

 

darkstorm5000

That's a shame

 

Kirayoshi

I

 

Kirayoshi

Any of kitty in a fur bikini?

 

J_Harper

Well, briefs. He'd look funny in a bikini top. ;)

 

J_Harper

Did you get the one up of the crowd scene I mentioned? I know they're only off in one corner.

 

Kirayoshi

Very Raquel Welch.

 

Lia

Fur speedos? That doesn't sound very good for swimming! But it does sound good for fan girls to oogle!

 

Amokitty

heh. Sadly, no. Sorry, K! but there are several Kitty swimsuit pics though, and they'll be posted too.

 

Amokitty

No kidding!!! ;)

 

Kirayoshi

Oh goody.

 

Kirayoshi

Man, Tilda Swinton is spooky-scary!

 

J_Harper

Kitty's usually in the more folks stuff. At least the first special had her in a straw hat and something like boxers, with a blue bikini top.

 

Kirayoshi

I'm watching Chronicles of Narnia.

 

Lia

She was wearing a wrap skirt, I think.

 

Amokitty

I have that very pic, Jeremy. The one at the engagement party where they're off to the side visiting together?

 

J_Harper

I think you're right, love. I do know she isn't wearing one of the Emma/Betsy slut suits. ;)

 

Kirayoshi

And then they quietly wrote off T'

 

Kirayoshi

T'Challa's wife?

 

Kirayoshi

Oh, this bodes ill for Ororo!

 

J_Harper

Yup, that one. Tha's a picture that gave me hope way back ten, twelve years ago.

 

Amokitty

She's wearing one piece suits in every pic, guys. Sorry!

 

Lia

Don't call Betsy a slut!

 

J_Harper

Sorry baby. :(

 

Lia

You shouldn't ever use that word, sweetie. Unless it's in reference to Emma. Or Paris Hilton.

 

Amokitty

True, that!

 

Kirayoshi

She doesn't matter. On many levels.

 

Amokitty

ha!

 

Lia

Hee he!

 

J_Harper

LOL! I'm sorry. Though, you got to admit, Betsy got a whole lot less inhibited after the race switch.

 

J_Harper

Any how, Kitty is usually in the more classic girl next door innocent cheescake swimsuits.

 

Amokitty

Proper British Betsy would NEVER wear a thong! Hee!

 

Kirayoshi

That's part of what makes her so sexy, paradoxically enough!

 

Kirayoshi

Kitty, I meant.

 

Lia

No, but I can see why she changed. There must be a discoonnect between her and her body, since it's not really hers.

 

J_Harper

Anyhow, if I ever meet Brubaker, and if Joe is with me, I'll sick Joe on him. Joe's a scary guy. He once threatened to beat up a smarmy DC submission editor at WizardWorld and got away with it.

 

Amokitty

The Body Shoppe affected Betsy body and soul.

 

Amokitty

You're a darling man, Mr. Harper!

 

J_Harper

Joe doesn't suffer fools gladly.

 

Lia

Yep. He even yells at airline people.:)

 

Amokitty

Brubaker seemed WAY too full of his own importance. It was like I was just dismissed. It was very weird.

 

J_Harper

That's something I never thought of, shweetie. The disconnect.

 

J_Harper

Teh body disconnet.

 

J_Harper

If Brubaker ever reaches the brilliance of an Alan Moore or a pre-nuts Frank Miller, or any of several lit writers I could mention, I'd cut him some slack.

 

Amokitty

Mark was like, "what the hell happened???" He wasn't impressed either. ;)

 

Lia

That's because we are lowly peons, while Mr. Brubaker is a writing god who is so far above us he can't be expected to do something as common as look us in the eye, or even speak to us. Duh!

 

J_Harper

I like Brubaker, his writing, but attitudes like that don't impress me.

 

Kirayoshi

He sounds like Tom Cruise.

 

darkstorm5000

Between the Body Shoppe, Hand, Mandarin, Nyoirin, and anyone else who's been allowed the opportunity to play around with her head, I guess something had to give

 

Amokitty

I did get my stuff signed though. In that respect - mission accomplished.

 

J_Harper

Heh. Joe met Gaiman, and Gaiman was very personable. Harlan Ellison you can either take or leave, but I've heard enough about him to know he's a good man. I still don't know if I'd want to meet him, though.

 

Kirayoshi

Someone needs to remind Bru that he depends on us 'lowly peons' for his bread and butter.

 

Amokitty

I agree, DS. Bets (or anybody) can only handle so much.

 

darkstorm5000

Give it a year, Brubaker'll have probably been replaced by the next great thing by then

 

Lia

Didn't you met Gaiman too, hon?

 

Kirayoshi

Now him I'd like to meet.

 

J_Harper

I once talked to Art Spiegalman, but I was a teenage idiot, not really understanding what he accomplished with Maus. I hope I can talk to him again some day and apologize to him.

 

Kirayoshi

Get my copies of Good Omens, Neverwhere and American Gods autographed.

 

J_Harper

No, I just saw him lecture. Joe ran into him in the hallway when Ellison was speaking, and managed to talk to him for a minute or two.

 

Kirayoshi

Ellison? As in Harlan?

 

Kirayoshi

He's an ass, but at least he's entertaining.

 

Amokitty

I met Grace Lee Whitney from the original Star Trek, 3 weeks ago. She lived together with Ellison and told some juicy stories to me over breakfast!

 

Kirayoshi

And with is brilliance, he's deserved some leeway.

 

J_Harper

Yeah, I saw Ellison, Gaiman and Peter David lecture at MIT in 2001. I'd go see them again in a heart beat.

 

Amokitty

wow. me too. How cool to see something like that!

 

Kirayoshi

You ever read his original script for "City on the Edge of Forever"?

 

J_Harper

Oh geeze. Ellison is an interesting man. I admire him, though I don't know how likable he ultimately is.

 

Kirayoshi

He said some mean things about Roddenbury

 

J_Harper

yes. I own a copy of it. White Wolf edition. It really deserved to be filmed as is.

 

Amokitty

Grace said he was a kind man. Very, VERY, anal, but kind. He genuinely loved her.

 

J_Harper

That's good to hear.

 

Kirayoshi

Maybe J. Abrams will do it, when he takes over the franchise.

 

Amokitty

Quirky as hell though! he had some weird habits!

 

J_Harper

That doesn't surprise me. I think he really is crazy, if at least because he never backs down, even if it'd be prudent.

 

Kirayoshi

Plus, after seeing JMS's run on the FF, I'm beginning to susoect that Ellison was the true creative force behind B5.

 

Amokitty

Didn't sound like the cast members that I met were impressed with Abrams.....

 

J_Harper

Odd, I've liked FF so far, but then, I haven't gotten to the Civil War issues yet.

 

Amokitty

Lot of pot-shots were said.

 

Kirayoshi

CW hijacked the FF.

 

J_Harper

plus it probably doesn't help he's following a run that's considered one of the best ever, after Lee/Kirby and Byrne. Some peolpe have said Waid's run is better than Byrne's.

 

Kirayoshi

Waid kicked butt all over the place.

 

J_Harper

I'm glad CW hasn't bled into Astonishing.

 

Kirayoshi

Joss had said in his blog that Astonishing #13 on take place post CW.

 

J_Harper

Huh.

 

Kirayoshi

Which indicates that by the end of this brohaha, the Sentinels finally clear off!

 

Amokitty

Good. Then sentinels can't follow Kitty and peter on dates! LOL.

 

Kirayoshi

Never liked the idea of the Sentinels 'protecting' the mutants.

 

J_Harper

That would kill the romance. :/

 

Amokitty

No kidding!

 

Kirayoshi

Yeah, right. They were just corralling them together in one place to make it easier to kill them.

 

Kirayoshi

And Scott went along with it!

 

J_Harper

I think Deathless Peter would attack one, if it tried to follow him.

 

Amokitty

If I were a mutant, K, that's EXACTLY how I would feel. Reason # 96 why I don't like CW.

 

Kirayoshi

Logan had a cool line on Bendis' Avengers, when he asked Luke Cage, "how would you feel if you were guarded by a bunch of burning crosses?"

 

J_Harper

Snort. Okay, I'll give Bendis points for that.

 

Amokitty

Deathless Peter could do anything he set his mind to! Can't wait to see how he sets his mind to protecting Kitty from Koschei!

 

darkstorm5000

As Stryker easily illustrated in NXM

 

Kirayoshi

I want to see him wail on Koschei too

 

Kirayoshi

BTW, that was a hint, Harper!

 

J_Harper

I got a little more of it done this week. Not as much as I'd have liked, but I think I did all right with it, despite the lack of Emma-death. Isn't that right, sweetie? ;)

 

Amokitty

Another book I've recently stopped collecting.... Scores of dead kids is just too much.

 

J_Harper

New Avengers? Or the student X-Men book?

 

darkstorm5000

I'm still reading, like looking at an accident or something I guess

 

darkstorm5000

Student X-Men

 

Amokitty

DS mentioned Stryker on new X-Men. don't get me started on Bendis!!!!! * looks angry* heh.

 

J_Harper

Yes, I've heard about that. :/

 

J_Harper

What did Bendis do this time? Besides being an asshole about Alpha Flight never being a good team?

 

Kirayoshi

I'm fairly interested in this new Omega Flight book.

 

Kirayoshi

If for no other reason than the return of Beta Ray Bill!

 

Amokitty

Kyle and Yost are appearantly working on the Wolverine cartoon. You can't kill a bunch of people on Sat. mornings thank goodness!

 

Lia

Beta Ray Bill! I loves him.

 

Kirayoshi

Plus I suspect USAgent is in the lineup as well

 

Lia

The Wolvie cartoon is supposed to be a semi continuation of Evolution, which means Kitty should pop up every now and then.

 

Amokitty

Nope, that's it Jeremy. he killed Alpha Flight. That makes him a BAD man!

 

J_Harper

Bill is cool. Plus he was lovers with Sif, which makes him doubly cool. :)

 

Amokitty

Really? Cool. wonder if this means that Colossus might show up.

 

Lia

I hope so. Maybe they'll finally get to that love triangle they were planning.

 

Kirayoshi

As long as Alvers stays with the B'hood.

 

Amokitty

never could cotton why Lady Sif would sleep with a horseface dude....

 

Kirayoshi

the way Thor was acting during that time?

 

Kirayoshi

Better a horse face than a horse's ass!

 

Lia

LOL!

 

Amokitty

Was that before or after he became a frog?

 

Amokitty

LOL!

 

J_Harper

Before, I think. Plus Thor was under a spell.

 

J_Harper

And Bill was gifted with a more human form thanks to Stormbreaker. A gift from Odin.

 

J_Harper

Kiotr on the air would be quite nice.

 

Kirayoshi

Odin essentially transferred the spell that changed Thor into Don Blake to Stormbreaker.

 

Kirayoshi

As a result, Don Blake ceased to exist.

 

 

 

 

J_Harper

Oh, I ran across something that was morbidly amusing.

 

Amokitty

Share?

 

Kirayoshi

oh plese.

 

Kirayoshi

please

 

Lia

Hurry up, Jeremy!

 

Lia

Do I have to do the same thing as Friday to get you to tell us?;)

 

J_Harper

Someone had posted a link on RPG.Net to the imfamous Hulk YMCA near-rape issue from the big Hulk comic back in the early eighties. Good grief!

 

Amokitty

Uh-oh!!

 

J_Harper

:) No, no you don't. ;)

 

Kirayoshi

Oh.

 

J_Harper

Shooter's writing was rather, errr.... quaint? I don't know how to quantify it.

 

Amokitty

That's being kind, Jeremy.

 

J_Harper

It was surprisingly explicit, considering, so I think it wasn't in a code book. Oversized magazine maybe?

 

Kirayoshi

Hey, this is the guy who had Peter forget Kitty's name in a single issue of Secret Wars!

 

darkstorm5000

Isn't this the same guy (as editor in chief)that broke Kitty and Peter up in the first place?

 

Amokitty

I plan on posting that, K. Just to show how stupid it truly was.

 

J_Harper

Yeah.

 

Amokitty

Yes!!!

 

J_Harper

he is the devil. Yet, I hear his LEGION work is suppose to be pretty good...

 

Amokitty

The one that put Ms. Marvel and Wasp in refridgerators.

 

darkstorm5000

Huh?

 

Kirayoshi

He was a teen when he wrote it, right?

 

Kirayoshi

He created the Fatal Five, IIRC.

 

J_Harper

Anyhow, a lot of people who've read this say that it's a perfect example of repressed homosexual fear and longing. I know the Comic Journal used it as an example of Marvel being rabidly anti-homosexual, but then everyone knows the Comic Journal hates Marvel comics and is about as fair and unbiased as Fox news.

 

Amokitty

"Women in Refrigerators" is a synonym with abusing comic book heroines.

 

J_Harper

Yeah. Like what Bendis did to Wanda. :/

 

Amokitty

That help DS?

 

darkstorm5000

Oh, I think I know what you're talking about now

 

Kirayoshi

Or what Major Force did, literally, to Kyle Raynor's girlfriend.

 

Kirayoshi

Hence the name.

 

J_Harper

I read part of an interview with Cockrum, saying that Shooter was very sexist, and vetoed the idea of Phoenix fighting Thor or the Silver Surfer to a stand still, let alone beating one of them.

 

Amokitty

yep, she was put in a fridge. Gail Simone coined the term I believe.

 

darkstorm5000

That's a pretty horrible attitude to have

 

Kirayoshi

I should take off.

 

Amokitty

I can believe this. Shooter wasn't big on character advancement.

 

J_Harper

Heading out K? Take care.

 

Kirayoshi

I splurged on an PS2 and I want to tackle Kindgom Hearts for a little before bed.

 

Kirayoshi

Later.

 

darkstorm5000

Have a good night, K

 

Amokitty

It was wonderful as always to have you here, K!

 

Kirayoshi

Cya

 

Lia

Night, Kirayoshi! Take care.

 

Kirayoshi

Peace Out.

 

Amokitty

Bye!

 

Kirayoshi left.

 

 

Amokitty

Still haven't heard from Rose. Strange.

 

J_Harper

Did Xakko ever show up? I'm sorry I was so late. I couldn't get to the computer until really late.

 

J_Harper

Maybe she isn't up to the chat right now. Poor woman. :(

 

Amokitty

No, haven't heard from Xak either.

 

J_Harper

Oh well, Lia's here, which is the important thing. Though, admittedly, I'm biased. ;)

 

Amokitty

yeah, I know. However she told me just 3 days ago that she would be here. That's why I'm confused.

 

Amokitty

We Love Lia!!!

 

J_Harper

Life happens. Best laid plans and all.

 

Lia

I am the most important, aren't I?

 

Lia

;)

 

J_Harper

Yesh, I loves her too. :)

 

Amokitty

Yeah, hopefully she'll reply soon, and everything's okay.

 

J_Harper

Of course you are! I know this, 'cause you keep telling me it. ;)

 

Amokitty

Of course, Lia!

 

Amokitty

:)

 

Lia

Maybe she went out with friends or something, or maybe she was sleepy.

 

Amokitty

I hope she's having fun. She needs something positive to think about. We miss you, Rose!! May you be having a ball wherever you are!

 

Lia

Del Taco keeps playing commercials on the tv. They make me hungry for tacos.

 

J_Harper

So, did you all discuss what the fallout from this arc is going to be?

 

Amokitty

Lia! Carl's Jr. is finally coming to my town! Woo-hoo! Gonna par-tay! Heh.

 

J_Harper

?

 

Lia

Yes. In fact, Joss Whedon stopped by and spoiled us all, but we were sworn to secrecy and can therefore tell you none of it!

 

Amokitty

She mentioned Del Taco. Fast food chain. nearest Del Taco for me is 130 miles away! Bummer!

 

J_Harper

I now feel like Mooch when he's late to butcher's shop and Butchie gives Earl all the good shtuff... :( ;)

 

Lia

I love Carl's Jr! They have a good BBQ chicken sandwich that has low calories for a fast food place.

 

Amokitty

Carl's Jr. is another West coast chain like Del Taco.

 

Lia

Of course, no chain is as good as In-N-Out....

 

Amokitty

Lia you're both funny and cruel!! Ha!

 

Amokitty

Naturally!

 

Lia

Mostly I'm just cruel....

 

Amokitty

I bet you're man begs to differ!

 

Lia

And yet he remains silent:(

 

Amokitty

He says the nicest things about you...!

 

J_Harper

Not to me, you are not. :)

 

Amokitty

LOL!!!! OMG!

 

J_Harper

Sorry, stepped away for a moment, sweetie.

 

Amokitty

You two are damned funny.

 

J_Harper

Though, I will admit, she can kick my butt on occasion. She's quite tough, for such a small girl. ;)

 

Lia

Aww, that's sweet. Especially considering mostly when we talk I just make raspberry sounds over the phone.

 

Amokitty

Your banter just seems to "fit".

 

J_Harper

Jeese, I always though those were your paraxoms of joy, caused by you talking with me. Another illusion shattered...

 

Amokitty

*giggles*

 

Lia

You can't spell geese.

 

Lia

Crap, neither can I.

 

J_Harper

Jeeze, Lia, get it together. ;)

 

Amokitty

I've no doubt that Lia can whup ass with the best of them. She's one smart (and tough) cookie.

 

Lia

Grrrrr!

 

J_Harper

Well, I should be more polite. She was looking for another boyfriend Friday. I should be on my best behavior.

 

Amokitty

Yeahbuwhat??? Heh.

 

darkstorm5000

Just wait until that catchphrase really catches on

 

Amokitty

boyfriend???

 

Lia

Hee hee. I already use it at work!

 

Amokitty

I think it already IS, DS!

darkstorm5000

It's definitely getting there

Amokitty

Sounds like you better be careful jeremy!

Amokitty

;)

J_Harper

I try my best. :)

J_Harper

I loves my shweetie.

Lia

And I love you!

J_Harper

Yay! :)

Amokitty

as far as predictions of how the arc will end. God, I wish I knew. Joss has got me all sixes and sevens.

J_Harper

::wub

Amokitty

Wow, did it just get warm in here, DS?????

Amokitty

;D

darkstorm5000

I'd say hot in herrre

Lia

heehee

J_Harper

You know, it's funny how much I've enjoyed this comic. I'm really not a big fan of Whedon. I mean, I binged on Buffy and Angel, but couldn't get past seson 4 of Buffy and never into the season after 1 for Angel, and I frankly thought Firefly was mediocre. But I've really enjoyed his Astonishing run.

Amokitty

Ha! Haven't heard that in a while!

Lia

Sometimes I don't know why I love you. You say such mean things about the man whose shine I pray at 62 times a day.

J_Harper

:( Sorry baby.

Amokitty

I loved Firefly. LOVED it. I'm gonna miss Joss so much. He gave us back our Kiotr. I'm indebted to the man.

Lia

You should be!

J_Harper

But I'll give him big, big points for Astonishing 4 to 6, and Astonishing 14. :)

Amokitty

Holy crap, Lia. and I thought that *I* loved Joss! Whew!

J_Harper

I'll admit, post 24 Astonishing is something I look towards with trepedation.

darkstorm5000

I felt the same way about Buffy. Then I got the Season 5-7 DVD's cheap and kinda warmed to them a little more, but still didn't love most of it. Then again, I don't think Joss was writing the majority of it by that point?

Lia

He was pretty much gone by that point. He left the show in Marti Noxon's grubby little hands.

Amokitty

yeah, we were talking about that earlier DS. Joss was gone from that point on.

darkstorm5000

It showed

J_Harper

Maybe I didn't like Firefly 'cause I'm so grounded in lit S.F. I mean, I don't really think there's any media sf world that can hold a candle to the works of Cordwainer Smith or Gene Wolfe.

J_Harper

Lia told me Noxon was pretty obnoxious.

Amokitty

Me too, Jeremy. this is a hard act to follow, and there aren't a lot of Kiotr fans out there. Mostly old schoolers like Joss.

J_Harper

Eh, I think there's more of us out there than you give credit. The Ketes are just more vocal and more obnoxious than we are.

Amokitty

Smith and Wolfe are very classic though. It's hard to compare.

darkstorm5000

Hopefully, Joss' work has helped to create a new generation

J_Harper

RPG.net is very proe Kiotr.

J_Harper

The response to my Peter is the Man thread, after Astonishing 14, was overwhelmingly positive.

Amokitty

Maybe I should check RPG.net out then. comixFan is annoying as hell, and while CBR has more fans, there are just as many Kete's, and that makes it hard too.

J_Harper

Other Media is a fun place, and the modding is very agressive. The stuff that goes on at CBRF would not fly over there.

Lia

I thought about joining comixfan, but it seems like every poster is either a sycophant to that Phil Hunn guy or just ignored or ridiculed.

J_Harper

That's depressing. :(

Lia

Yesh. Grrrr to him!

J_Harper

Do I have to beat him up, or sic Joe after him?

Amokitty

Phin Hunn is a complete asshole, pardon my language. God, what a jerk! His is the ONLY opinion that matters. The idiots at ComixFan have gone and made that fool an official reviewer! What the hell were they thinking??!!!!

J_Harper

Because if he's been mean to you I'll hoist the black flag and get ready to slit some throats.

J_Harper

Isn't that Mr. Sinister?

Lia

Yeah. Which proves his taste might not be the greatest....

Amokitty

He's attacked posts from Xak and me. Rude, crude, and socially unacceptable as my French teacher used to say.

J_Harper

Why the hell has he attacked you?

Amokitty

yes, Jeremy he is. Not a great writer in my book. And that has nothing to do with his opinions on Colossus. Just mediocre.

Amokitty

He's attacked our posts in what I'm sure he feels is merely 'debate'. He gets personal though. That's not debate. That's something else all together.

J_Harper

I've read maybe two pieces by him. One was a character sketch of a grieving Peter that was actually pretty good, and another was his alt history of the Soviets invading America in the Marvel world, which I didn't care much for.

Amokitty

he questions your intelligence if you disagree with him. there must be something wrong with you, etc.

Lia

Yeah, I've noticed if your opinion isn't 100% the exact same as his he treats you like you have no brain.

J_Harper

you see, the reason why I like RPG.Net so much is that stuff like that isn't tolerated. They don't censor your language or your aguments, but the moment you get personal they drop on you like a hammer.

Amokitty

Yeah, THAT got old, Lia.

Amokitty

My husbans loves me!!!

J_Harper

So basically he's a bully. Living proof of John Gabriel's Internet Fuckwad theory, excuse my language ladies.

Amokitty

what a guy!

J_Harper

What he do?

Amokitty

He's running out to get me dessert at this late hour just ‘cause I want it!

J_Harper

:)

Amokitty

He just jokingly asked if he could go out and get anything for you guys too!!!

Lia

Awwwwww! That's so sweet!

darkstorm5000

Appreciate the thought

J_Harper

:) banana cream pie would be good right about now. ;)

Amokitty

ha!!!

Lia

I still am craving tacos (hint hint jeremy)

Amokitty

mark is the best!!!

Amokitty

I swear to God, Lia! He's going to Taco Bell right now!!!

J_Harper

:) I'll try my best, baby, but I think even the best of tacos will keep very well, even on express mailing. ;)

Amokitty

Wow!

J_Harper

won't keep, I mean.

Lia

You would buy me tacos, honey?

J_Harper

Yesh. I would buy you tacos, or ice cream, or any other yummy food you would want. ::wub

Lia

Awww. You don't know me at all!

J_Harper

'cause I'm madly in luv with you. :) ::wub

Amokitty

You've got a keeper there, Lia.

J_Harper

I don't?

Lia

Poor little baby cow had to die to make those tacos, and by buying them for me you are supporting the slaughter of more baby moo moos. :(

J_Harper

I'd get you a vegetarian taco.

Amokitty

Are you vegan, Lia??

J_Harper

Or a chicken one. Give me some credit, sweetie. ;)

Lia

No, I eat chicken. Chickens are evil. They can die.

Amokitty

So you have vegetarian proclivities?

Lia

Yep. I can only eat animals that aren't cute.

J_Harper

yesh, she is. Which makes me wonder why she puts up with me, since I am carnivorous.

Lia

Because I like watching you eat cheeseburgers. I miss those...

J_Harper

I knew you had a reason for loving me. ;)

Amokitty

Ah, so you haven't eaten at In-n-Out recently then, huh?

Lia

Well...maybe more than one...

J_Harper

Yay! :) ::wub

J_Harper

She eats grilled cheese there.

Lia

I ate there Tuesday! I get a grilled cheese. It's yummy!

Amokitty

Awww, ain't true love grand?

Amokitty

Gotcha.

J_Harper

In-and-Out is very good. Best fast food burgers I've had. The best burger I ever had though was at Islands when I was last visiting Lia. Beats even Outback Steakhouse or Fridays.

Amokitty

Islands? Sadly, I've never heard of it...

Lia

Resyaurant chain in California. It's maybe ten years old and growing pretty fast. The food is great.

J_Harper

It has a tropical/surfer theme.

Lia

http://www.islandsrestaurants.com

Amokitty

I'll check it out next time I'm there. Which of course is never soon enough!

Amokitty

Thanks!!

J_Harper

Man, we wander all over the place. :)

Amokitty

Topic drift, or vacation dining, Jeremy?

J_Harper

Ummmm... both! :)

Lia

Of course, the reason Islands was so good was because you got to eat there with me, right?;)

Amokitty

ha!!

J_Harper

:) Baby, anywhere with you is a good time.

Lia

Awwww!

Amokitty

yep, gettin' hot in here again...

Amokitty

Hee!

darkstorm5000

I can feel it

Amokitty

LOL!

Lia

Even if I made you go to a Kete convention?

J_Harper

Hey, did anyone ever read my little article I posted on the Kiotr site?

J_Harper

Could I beat up the Ketes with a baseball bat?

Lia

No, but you could pelt them with Boba.

J_Harper

Hmmmm... I think I could manage.

Amokitty

How do you think Peter destroys Breakworld?

Lia

He plays Paris Hiltons cd and they all kill themselves to escape the noise...

J_Harper

I'm not sure. Either actions of his sets off some sort of reaction, or maybe he will destroy it socially, like some have suggested.

Amokitty

I love it!!

J_Harper

yeah, that'd make me want to forsake the mortal coil.

darkstorm5000

Outside of the expected physical approach, I'm not sure. I'm expecting that classic Joss swerve

Lia

I think it'll end up having something to do with him protecting Kitty.

J_Harper

God, I keep thinking what'd he'd do to Nova if he finds out what she put her through.

Amokitty

I don't know why people think that Peter could punch it out of existance. I mean really.

J_Harper

people either let their dislike blind them or are willfully ignorant.

Amokitty

Nova's power could do it. Wonder if she has a role in this.

Lia

I think maybe it'll be accidental, something to do with Legacy or the cure somehow creating a disease that kills his people.

darkstorm5000

That sounds like a good possibility

Amokitty

that would tie into the self fulfilling prophesy scenario that Joss likes so much.

J_Harper

So Ord is responsible for destroying the Breakworld, and through him, the Breakworld itself. I like that sort of irony.

Lia

I still want to know why Nova chose Kitty. Maybe it ties back into the reason Emma was so interested in getting her as a student, which was never explained in the first place. I think it'll end up tying into all this.

Amokitty

I think so, Lia.

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Lia

hey! did we all get disconnected?

darkstorm5000

I think so.

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amokitty

Sorry about that. Got disconnected.

amokitty

Did anyone else????

darkstorm5000

Yeah, I did

Lia

The server must be a Kete! He doesn't want to hear anymore Kiotr support!;)

Lia

Yeah, i was disconnected too.

amokitty

Sorry guys. Don't think it was the room though. Our internet service provider has been screwing with us lately. It's been happening more and more lately.

amokitty

The room is sound!!!! I swear to god!!!! No really!

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Lia

It's a good room! It's even a pretty color!

amokitty

Besides, I paid good money for this room and I've got a ton of support for it. Not too worried.

amokitty

Aw, thanks!

amokitty

marcus???

darkstorm5000

I'm here, my screen froze for a minute

amokitty

I doubt it's the room. but there is a good chance it's our ISP. I'm sorry about the hiccups.

amokitty

Hope that Jeremy can come back.

darkstorm5000

It's alright, don't worry about it

Lia

He probably went to sleep. It's past his bed time, and I'll yell at him if he stays up too late.;)

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amokitty

Okay. Breakworld speculation. I can't see Kitty dying and causing Peter to lose it, and thus kill a planet.

amokitty

Hello Jeremy. Miss us?

J_Harper

Sorry about that. My computer went blooie.

amokitty

Not your computer, dear. My fault.

amokitty

Sorry!

J_Harper

Ah. Oh well, it happens.

darkstorm5000

I don't think it'll be anything as predictable as that

Lia

Hee hee. Do you know what time it is, my love? And no, it's not Tool Time, or Flavor of Love clock ceremony time....

amokitty

It's time for bed, that's what!!!!!!!

amokitty

Heh, heh.

J_Harper

Ahhhh! I fears bedtime. ;)

Lia

hey, no helping!;)

Lia

You'll fears me more if you don't go to sleepyland!

J_Harper

Okay boss. ;)

amokitty

*looks sad* sorry Lia! You're right . That's YOUR job! ;)

amokitty

::biggrin

Lia

Off you go! Boppity boop!

J_Harper

Tell the truth, I am starting to droop. I'm sorry I wasn't around for more.

J_Harper

:) Yes, my love. I'll talk to you all later. next month I guess. Maybe I'll actually have Deathless done.

Lia

I should go too. It's late, and I'm getting sleep loopiness.

amokitty

I'll try to have the transcript up by Mon. at the latest. goin' to a Bar-B-Que tomorrow.

Lia

You won't talk to me for a month?

Lia

You are MEAN!

amokitty

I'll also let you and Lia know when the swimsuit pages get posted.

darkstorm5000

I think I'll make it a consensus then, it's getting pretty late here

J_Harper

;) You, I'll talk to tomorrow. Monday at the latest.

J_Harper

Thanks Amo.

amokitty

guys thank you so much for coming tonight!!!

Lia

Thanks! I look forward to oogling...I mean, to seeing that.;)

amokitty

LOl.

J_Harper

I go through withdrawl if I don't talk to Lia often enough.

darkstorm5000

Sure, glad to be a part of things. As always!

amokitty

I understand. when Mark's out of town I go nuts!

Lia

Thanks for having us! It was lots of fun!

amokitty

For business trips I mean.

J_Harper

yesh! Goodnight everyone.

Lia

Night, everybody! Take care!

J_Harper

G' night, love.

darkstorm5000

Goodnight all...

amokitty

It's always so wonderful to have all of you come. It could never be the same without you.

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amokitty

Goodnight, DS. Thanks again!

amokitty

Rats! Missed Jeremy!

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amokitty

'Night, Lia!

Lia

That's ok, I'll tell him you said bye.

amokitty

Take care, now.

Lia

Night, Amokitty! Sleep well. Bye.

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amokitty

Bye, Lia.

amokitty

Thanks for coming by everyone!  Good night!

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