Transcript for KIOTR Chat 8-26-06

Topic: Astonishing X-Men #16

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Amokitty

Evening everyone! I think tonight's chat is going to be very interesting given how Astonishing #16 played out. It's gonna be fun.

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xakko

hi!

Amokitty

Hiya Xak!

xakko

i have to switch to the laptop 'cause we're having a thunderstorm... be back in a minute!

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Amokitty

Is the storm pretty bad?

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Amokitty

Hey!

Xakko

back again, we're having a thunderstorm so the PC wasn't feasible

Xakko

and i hate this keyboard...

Xakko

how are you?

Amokitty

I hate my keyboard too. The shift doesn't work half the time.

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Amokitty

I'm okay.

Amokitty

Xak??? Hmmm.... the storm could be pretty nasty after all....

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Xakko

i hate macs

Xakko

hi DS!

Amokitty

Hey sweetie everything okay there?

Amokitty

Darkstorm!!!

Darkstorm5000

Hi Xakko, Hi Amokitty!

Darkstorm5000

Just a little slow on the typing here...

Amokitty

My typing will forever stink. I sympathize.

Xakko

and i'm on a keyboard two times too small for my fingers

Amokitty

LOL.

Amokitty

Poor Xak, making do with the laptop.

Darkstorm5000

Mine are too clumsy, regardless of the size

Amokitty

Me? I'm just too damn SLOW......

Xakko

Hey it works for me! don't dis my mac (deb-wife of xakko)

Amokitty

Deb!!!! Woo-hoo! I was hoping you'd come!

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Darkstorm5000

So, how's everyone doing?

Kirayoshi

Yeahbuwhat?

Xakko

she's sitting next to me- well, she just went to get food

Amokitty

Kirayoshi! Hi!

Xakko

hi K!

Darkstorm5000

Hi, Kirayoshi

Amokitty

K, that was so funny!

Kirayoshi

That's today's secret word!

Amokitty

Ha!

Kirayoshi

Next time you see the word 'yeahbuwhat', SCREAM REAL LOUD!

Amokitty

Okay! We got sounds for that!

Xakko

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Kirayoshi

Hey gang!

Xakko

oh my

Amokitty

Hey toots.

Amokitty

Heh.

Amokitty

My husband is back from Reno and all is well.

Xakko

yay! (hi amocat!)

Kirayoshi

Glad to hear it, Amo.

Kirayoshi

Amos?

Xakko

tori!

Amokitty

He's not on yet. Poor man just walked in about 35 min. ago, but will join us shortly.

Kirayoshi

Should have seen that one coming!

Amokitty

I loves me some Tori.

Xakko

yeah, you should have

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Kirayoshi

So, who loved seeing Kitty own Emma's diamond-studded butt?

Xakko

hi leafee!

Darkstorm5000

Hi, L. LeBeau!

Amokitty

Welcome Leafee! Glad you could come!

LeafeeLeBeau

Hi!

Kirayoshi

Yo!

Xakko

it certainly didn't suck!

Amokitty

Emma SOOOO had it coming.

Darkstorm5000

And it's been a long time coming

Kirayoshi

Seriously, Joss must have seen Read or Die at some point!

Amokitty

*laughs*

Amokitty

I was really pleased with this issue. Sadly there was little of peter though.

Kirayoshi

Although the punchline at the end does give hope for major development for Peter.

Xakko

i am afraid i do understand where some of the Astonishing haters are coming from- these issues do seem so short

Darkstorm5000

32 pages, bi-monthly, just ain't enough

Kirayoshi

Most comics are short.

Kirayoshi

As of now, though, it's monthly.

Xakko

i'm curious as to when it was determined that he reverted to human form when rendered unconscious...

Darkstorm5000

Really..., hadn't heard that, or I just missed it

Amokitty

K called it last time. It looks like Peter is indeed the destroyer. * hands K his no - prize*

Xakko

whee! not as long between chats!!

Amokitty

Yeah!

Kirayoshi

* accepts no-prize * YOU LIKE ME, YOU REALLY LIKE ME!!! I'M THE KING OF THE WORLD!!!!!

Amokitty

LOL.

Xakko

i wonder what the twist will be...

Kirayoshi

you ever get the feeling that James Cameron's kicking himself for letting go of the Spider-man franchise?

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Amokitty

I'm scared of that, Xak. I'm waiting for the axe to fall.

Kirayoshi

New blood!

Xakko

i think the destroyer will be that large blue moose-deb

Erebus

^.^

Darkstorm5000

Hi, Erebus!

Amokitty

Welcome Erebus! Nice of you to join us!

Erebus

Hello

Erebus

Thank you for the war welcome

Xakko

hi erebus!

Xakko

war welcome???

Xakko

* drops the bomb

Amokitty

It's cool to see some new blood around here!

Erebus

Warm

Erebus

lol

Erebus

O.O

Kirayoshi

Anyone know if J and Lia will bless us with their presence?

Erebus

No not bomb!!!

Amokitty

Don't Xak! You'll scare everyone away!!

Amokitty

Heh.

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Erebus

Wifey!!!

Amokitty

Wow. Hi Loneraven. Welcome aboard!

Darkstorm5000

Hi, Loneraven!

Erebus

Welcome Rave

LoneRaven

Hello there.

Xakko

hi loneraven!

Erebus

People are so nice here ^.^

Xakko

i promise to be good!

Amokitty

Well we try to be Erebus! ::biggrin

Kirayoshi

We were talking about Emma's battle with Miss Deep, er, Kitty.

Amokitty

Emma is psycho. We knew this before, but now we have PROOF.

LoneRaven

haha yeah....I really really wish the issues came out sooner.

Kirayoshi

I'm increasingly of the opinion that Cassandra is manipulating everyone, especially Emma.

LoneRaven

thats possible

Kirayoshi

We do know that Emma will be with the team after this arc.

Amokitty

Thank God it's monthly. The issues are so deconstructed it's makes waiting even harder.

Xakko

i would be a bit disappointed with that. i don't want any of the HFC to be real

Kirayoshi

There's a shot of the team in the November solicits, and Emma's part of the team.

Kirayoshi

Although I have a perfect ending for the end of this arc.

Amokitty

Do you think that Emma was talking to herself at the end of #6, when she said Peter was " a good-looking Boy"?

Xakko

yeah, and scott's got no visor

Amokitty

That will take some getting used to.

Kirayoshi

The rest of the X-Men reluctantly accept Emma as a member of the team, but Scott kicks her out of his bed.

Kirayoshi

Last line of the issue; Scott to Emma, "You'll never see me naked again."

LoneRaven

oooh that would be good

Xakko

i do think Emma was talking to her dark side, yes

Amokitty

And he called her a sick bitch to boot. That ship's in trouble.

Amokitty

*laughs at K*

Xakko

that ship should sink

Amokitty

Hear - Hear!

Xakko

unfortunately, it doesn't look like Warsong will do it

Kirayoshi

ICEBURG DEAD AHEAD!

Erebus

Emma is crazy... -.-

Amokitty

She is, and I wonder what brought this psychosis on...?

Kirayoshi

Meanwhile, whaddya think about Blindfold probably being the 'mole'?

Erebus

I was hoping perfection would turn out to be selene -.-

Xakko

death of Synch, maybe? cumulative stress of losing students?

Erebus

maybe

Darkstorm5000

Genosha?

Kirayoshi

Her Hellions?

Xakko

it may have started pre-Genosha

LoneRaven

It could be all of the suggestions

Amokitty

Well, I'm not sure of that. Would Joss really reveal Perfection, The Breakworld destroyer, AND the mole all in this ish?

Erebus

Maybe scott still being obsessed with jean

Kirayoshi

I had a wonko idea for a fanfic;

Xakko

wonko the sane?

Kirayoshi

What if Emma had gotten to know Carmen Pryde before the destruction of Genosha?

Erebus

wonko?

Xakko

gah. i can't see Emma going there.

Amokitty

There's a cunning plan to the wonko I'm sure....

Darkstorm5000

I could see it

Kirayoshi

Not necessarily in the Biblical sense, but as friends.

Xakko

hrmmm.. go on

Amokitty

K, that could work! Very interesting!

Kirayoshi

Just had the idea. Nothing concrete yet.

Kirayoshi

Maybe just a conversation, a few days before the fall.

Darkstorm5000

Still, it's a cool idea

Kirayoshi

I'm still considering my alternate take on "The End".

Amokitty

I'm sure Carmen would remember Emma.

Xakko

yeah... definitely.

Amokitty

Is your End story still in plot bunny stage? Or have you written anything yet/

Kirayoshi

At least from the horror stories Kitty must have told him.

Kirayoshi

Still in plot-bunny stage.

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Erebus

Hi

Kirayoshi

I'm concentrating on "Family Reunions", but I also have an idea for a Kim Possible fic.

Amokitty

Rose!!!!

Xakko

speaking of plot bunnies, is Rose... never mind, hi Rose!

MadR

Hello

Kirayoshi

Rosie the Riveting!

Darkstorm5000

Hi MadR!

Amokitty

She sho is K!

Xakko

I was just about to ask if she was going to make it... because of all of us, she seems to have the most ideas floating through her head

Amokitty

We have some new people joining us tonight, Rose. Very cool I think!

MadR

Ideas I have, it's turning them into stories that's the hard part.

Amokitty

Yeah, Rose's LJ was full of them. I was amazed.

Kirayoshi

Here here!

Xakko

the Kiotr fandom will not be deniedQ!

Amokitty

Heh.

MadR

I see some new to chat-but familiar names. Hi guys!

Kirayoshi

Tea and Cake or Death!

Xakko

oh, i'm getting stalked by a kete fan through e-mail!

Amokitty

What? Are you kidding?

Darkstorm5000

Are you serious?

Kirayoshi

Oh, brother, don't they ever give up?

MadR

Ah, flaming trolls.

Xakko

well, it's an exaggeration, but i've gotten a series of e-mails about how Piotr wasn't out of character in EXC92

Kirayoshi

Given that the main Kete site on the internet was hijacked by the Spuffy shippers, I can't blame them for being upset, but still...

Amokitty

Good grief. And this guy obviously thinks that he's a Colossus expert.

Xakko

and the reason? because Piotr didn't stop Stryker from blowing up the bus in New X-men

Kirayoshi

Hey, even Warren Ellis admitted that he didn't have a handle on Piotr at the time, give it a rest!

Amokitty

huh?

Xakko

it's just a guy who i've been baited by on CBR for a long time

Xakko

do you have a copy of where he said that, K?

Amokitty

Who, Xakko?

MadR

The Kete site hijacked by Spuffy shippers? That's heh....

Kirayoshi

Schellenberg, right?

Xakko

no, d newton

Xakko

hard to tell, i know

Kirayoshi

Anyone here about this new Pete Wisdom mini being planned?

Amokitty

God, he's so annoying! No one can have a differing opinion with him.

Xakko

yeah, the writer doesn't get Colossus at all

Darkstorm5000

I read a rumor about it, no details at the time though...

Xakko

it comes out in November. hopefully they don't even mention Kitty

Kirayoshi

The mini is a Max title, and will not feature Kitty.

Kirayoshi

I'm actually mildly interested because of the writer.

Xakko

dr who fan?

Kirayoshi

Paul Cornell, who's written for BBC, notably for the new Doctor Who.

Amokitty

I went by accident to the Pete Max series author's site. Oh man, does he hate Colossus.

Kirayoshi

Yep.

Amokitty

Yeah, him!

Kirayoshi

You've seen my avatar, right?

Xakko

can't think of it offhand, and can't connect to another site without losing this window

Xakko

darnmac

Kirayoshi

As long as he doesn't mention Peter and Kitty and lets Pete develop in interesting ways, we'll see.

Xakko

(deb's probably going to steal the computer and defend it soon!)

LoneRaven

it will probably have Sage in it, if not Kitty

Amokitty

Cornell's site has got Peter War banners on it, and doesn't bother to hide his disdain for Piotr. His credibility as a writer suffers for this, I think.

Xakko

from what And the Sword is Drawn is saying, it sounds like an old Gargoyles episodes

Xakko

(involving Oberon and the faerie)

Amokitty

Sage I can handle.

Kirayoshi

My main grouse with Pete Wisdom is that he was written for the sole purpose of being Kitty's boyfriend, and apart from that, he wasn't very well handled.

Xakko

we should all use the "Peter War: I'm with the WINNER" tag

Amokitty

Ha! Love that!

Kirayoshi

Really, without Kitty backing him up, there's no 'there' there

Xakko

some people enjoyed him in X-force. i don't have those issues, so i can't tell

Amokitty

I need to photoshop a pic with Peter on it holding a pic with Wisdom that P'NED on it.

Kirayoshi

I think Warren was writing him at the time.

LoneRaven

I have some issues of X-force with him in it. I didn't really like him there.

Kirayoshi

Hey, has Pete ever sent Kitty phasing through the bedroom floor? Huh? I think not!

Xakko

"that's never happened - it's totally your fault"

Erebus

lol

Kirayoshi

"I like to think so, yes."

Amokitty

That's funny you should mention that LoneRaven. I was just going through those Ellis written issues the other day.... Pete was definitely a hard case. he reminded me of Nick Fury.

LoneRaven

ya, thats who he was like

Darkstorm5000

In a good way, or bad way?

Kirayoshi

complete with an eyepatch, although it was later revealed that he only wore it because it looked cool.

Xakko

how many people read New Excalibur?

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Amokitty

Bad, to me at least.

LoneRaven

dont care for nick fury either

Kirayoshi

Claremont's not writing it now.

Kirayoshi

He's still recovering from something that happened to him during a con.

Amokitty

Hope Leafee comes back. We didn't get to say bye.

Xakko

i've dropped it for the time being... i just was wondering what people thought of CC's Wisdom

Xakko

Tieri does not appeal

Amokitty

I do Xak. But Tieri's not cutting it for me.

Amokitty

Yeah, what HE said!

Darkstorm5000

He just seems to be there to make everyone mad, the other characters and readers

Kirayoshi

You should check the current arc on Exiles.

Xakko

i get Exiles in TPB form...

Kirayoshi

There's a new team of Exiles, all dopplegangers of Wolverine.

Xakko

so i have to wait

Xakko

heh! and i thought it just seemed that way

Amokitty

CC's Pete is not quite there yet. If he were to write him like he did Logan in the old days, we might be getting somewhere.

Kirayoshi

Including a zombie-Logan and a young Jamie Howlett!

Darkstorm5000

Wolverine-mania...

Amokitty

Moose!

MadR

The Wolverine over-exposure is getting so very meta-inside joke now

Xakko

deb is loving the blue moose bits

Kirayoshi

Turns out that another alternate Logan who attained Cosmic powers is draining the life-forces of the other Wolverines to become all-powerful or something.

Darkstorm5000

I guess Wisdom needs to progress beyond just being the team-jerk, much like Wolverine eventually did

Erebus

....wolverine annoys me....

Xakko

what, from Uncanny Annual #11 going bad? the one with Horde?

Amokitty

You and me both.

Kirayoshi

Yep.

LoneRaven

I can see why, he's in about nine issues per month.

LoneRaven

he was even in power pack.

Amokitty

Too over exposed. Logan is good in small doses.

Erebus

yeah

Amokitty

OMG! that's right!

Xakko

i've liked him in things like his first limited series, Kitty Pryde & Wolverine, and Meltdown

Xakko

ronin Wolverine is the one i prefer

Erebus

I just prefer wolverine not being on every single team at the same time

Kirayoshi

I enjoyed the Jungle Adventure by Simonson and Mignola!

Amokitty

Me too Xak. The berzerker Wolvie has been done to death.

Kirayoshi

I don't see him on Avengers much longer, what with Civil War and all.

Amokitty

Don't get me started on that k! Fathering kids in the Savage Land...

Xakko

well, for me it's the bada** Wolverine that bores me

MadR

I wonder how long it'll be before Wolvierine represses Astonishing 16...

Amokitty

That chambermaid comment sent me in fit of giggles.

Kirayoshi

"Kit, I'll pay you a million dollars to destroy those videos."

MadR

I can see Kitty trying to tell him about Jamie Howlett, and him denying everything....

Erebus

I wonder how long it will be until the entire x-men lineup is wolverine, wolverine, and wolverine

Darkstorm5000

Wolverine seems to work best in titles where he's more in the background, working in the shadows...

LoneRaven

hahaha yes, and when he tried to help Kitty near the end

Amokitty

Hush Erebus! They'll hear you! Heh.

Erebus

lol

Erebus

:: Suddenly in the marvel offices :: "THATS A GOOD IDEA!!!"

MadR

but seriously, Hank eating a chunk of his leg has to be almost as traumatic as the Origin explanation for his hysterical anmesia....

Amokitty

Oh God.... that just scares me.

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Erebus

Hello

Amokitty

Jeremy, hi!

J_Harper

Hallo everyone.

Xakko

hi jeremy!

MadR

Hiya Jeremy!

Kirayoshi

J!

Darkstorm5000

Hi, Jeremy!

Amokitty

We're talking about Jamie Howlett.

J_Harper

How is it going?

Amokitty

Great!

J_Harper

Snert... Funny.

J_Harper

Though I'm worried about Hank.

Amokitty

Me too. He's going to remember losing it. How will Hank reconsile himself to this?

Xakko

hank'll get better- he's got Avengers to join, i think

Kirayoshi

I still wanna see Kitty go Inigo Montoya on Cassandra's a$$!

J_Harper

I'm actually worried about him physically. Jamie said he stabbed him.

MadR

Last we heard, Jamie 'made claws and stabbed it" and Hank "scampered off."

Amokitty

You're so right K. Justice must be done.

Kirayoshi

And for those who came in late, the secret word is "Yeahbuwhat?"

J_Harper

And when did Logan lose the bionic housings for his claws?

Xakko

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

J_Harper

Heh.

J_Harper

Where's the damn duck with 100 dollars?

Amokitty

I always wind up laughing my ass off at these things.... ::laugh

Kirayoshi

I always thought Logan didn't have bionic housings, just those metal studs on his gloves.

LoneRaven

they are

Xakko

well, back when the claws weren't bone, the OHOTMU would say that they were in bionic housings

J_Harper

Huh. Learn something new....

Kirayoshi

I always had issues with the '

Kirayoshi

'bone claw' era.

Xakko

i think he "lost" them in X-men #25

Kirayoshi

Although I had a better explaination for them.

J_Harper

When Mags pulled out his adamantium?

Xakko

or is that the Wolverine issue of Fatal Attractions

Xakko

yeah, JH

MadR

Isn't Sabretooth supposed to be on an X-team now? I'm still waiting to find out if I'm right and he's Dog Logan....but I'd love to see Jamie run into him regardless....

Amokitty

The look on Logan's face when Hank took a chunk out of him was hilarious!

J_Harper

Heh. Didn't mean to derail the Kiotrness. What did everyone think of this issue?

Xakko

he's in Adjectiveless X-men now, Rose.

Kirayoshi

My theory was that after Magneto pulled out the Adamantium, Logan's healing factor rapidly produced bone-cells to fill in the gaps in his arms where the claws were.

J_Harper

Well, as hilarious as cannibalism ever gets. ;)

Amokitty

Oh you know us Jeremy, we talk about EVERYTHING.

Amokitty

*laughs*

Xakko

the theory would be fine if they hadn't gone and given Rogue bone claws after that to show she'd absorbed him

J_Harper

True. :)

Xakko

and Mimic in Exiles

J_Harper

I don't know if Lia's going to show tonight.

Xakko

is she doing ok?

MadR

I loved this issue....can't wait to find out what happens next.

Amokitty

If she doesn't give her our regards! We hope she'll make it next time. :)

Kirayoshi

That's pretty much when my theory died.

J_Harper

Yeah. She's just a little burned out on the fandom right now. I'll admit, I am too a bit. We've both been active very much so in it for about two years now. We're both due for a lull.

Kirayoshi

Ah.

J_Harper

Plus she's starting her new job next week.

Kirayoshi

Good for her.

J_Harper

So she may still be shopping for it.

Amokitty

Will this affect Deathless, Jeremy?

J_Harper

It's only eight, eight thirty out her way now.

Amokitty

Yes it is.

Kirayoshi

Yep.

MadR

brb

Kirayoshi

I'm a Washingtonian.

J_Harper

I plan on at least finishing that. I'd also like to write that set up story for the shared cycle I'd like to do. But I'll at least finish Deathless.

Xakko

well, just in case, we'll wish her well in everything

Amokitty

Me too. But K already know that. Heh.

Kirayoshi

Kitty should be duck-hunting in the next chapter, right Jeremy?

J_Harper

I haven't got much done on Deathless as of yet, though I am working on revising it.

Amokitty

Shhhh... be vewy quiet......

J_Harper

? Duck hunting?

Kirayoshi

I read an article on Koshei in Wikipedia.

Amokitty

Sorry. Just got inspired with Elmer Fudd.

Kirayoshi

According to the article, Koshei kept his soul far away from his body.

J_Harper

Hopefully revising it will get me in the mood to finish To Slay.

J_Harper

Oh yeah. Oh, you guessed. :)

Amokitty

How near are you to completing it?

Kirayoshi

The soul was trapped in a needle, which was inside an egg, which was inside a duck, which was inside a hare, which was inside a chest that was buried neath the roots of an oak or something.

J_Harper

Half way done, maybe more.

Kirayoshi

By obtaining the egg, one could control or even kill Koshei.

J_Harper

There's actually a lot of variations on it. I'm using one where it's an egg only. And, well, you'll see.

Amokitty

BRB.

Kirayoshi

Russians have a thing for nesting dolls.

J_Harper

I hope everyone will find it worth the wait.

Xakko

i haven't been disappointed to date, J

J_Harper

Thanks.

Kirayoshi

Me neither.

J_Harper

Thanks all. I'm glad everyone has been enjoying it.

Kirayoshi

I'm still working on a new Kim Possible fic.

J_Harper

Oh? Never got into that one.

Kirayoshi

I did, actually. Kind of like Buffy without the angst.

Xakko

heh...

Kirayoshi

Plus the finale, So the Drama, provided a new direction for stories to go.

Xakko

i'm dreadfully stuck on Kits. i thought i knew where i was going, but it turns out i didn't

J_Harper

I saw that one. Watched it with Lia when she visited me last year.

Kirayoshi

I like it when nice-guy geeks get the girl!

Amokitty

And she's back.

J_Harper

Urgh. That's rough. Lia's stuck on her current story too, and it's driving her nuts.

J_Harper

One of the reasons why she's getting a bit tired of the fandom - her writing ability has dried up on her. :/

J_Harper

And it's frustrating her.

Kirayoshi

Have her send us some drafts, we can workshop them.

Amokitty

I can't wait for Lia to finish it Jeremy. I hope she isn't so burned out that it hinders her from finishing it.

J_Harper

I'll suggest that. Maybe that will help her. I've suggested setting it aside and trying something else, but that hasn't worked.

Amokitty

I think it's fantastic what I've seen so far.

Xakko

that's too bad, i so love her stuff

J_Harper

I'm afraid it's almost gotten to the point where she almost hates it, 'cause she can't finish it.

J_Harper

She's very good. I am, admittedly biased, but I think that's the truth.

Kirayoshi

Which story are we discussing, BTW?

Amokitty

Any particular reason for the burn out?

Kirayoshi

I'm not dating her, and I think she's great!

J_Harper

A sequel to cast me gently.

Kirayoshi

Ah.

Amokitty

Lia's latest.

J_Harper

For both of us?

Amokitty

Yes.

Kirayoshi

After AXM #16, I may have to revive my 'The End' variation.

Kirayoshi

Does anyone remember if Rachel survived X-Men The End?

LoneRaven

i dont think she did

Xakko

i don't think so

Kirayoshi

Darn.

Xakko

but i get thsat in TPB too

Amokitty

She didn't. She and Cable died in #11 I think.

Kirayoshi

I thought she was in the final arc.

J_Harper

I think part of it is because we've been so intensly into it for over two years now. Also, I think it doesn't help we're both not very happy with the direction Marvel is going right now.

Amokitty

I could be wrong!

J_Harper

Lia's seriously thinking about getting into DC. She's trying out Wonder Woman right now, and has liked it a lot.

Kirayoshi

Not fans of Civil War, huh?

Kirayoshi

Steer her away from Nightwing!

LoneRaven

Civil War sort of bores me

Kirayoshi

At least until #125!

Amokitty

I am too. I'm starting to buy Shazam titles again.

Xakko

i haven't touched Civil War

MadR

bak

Kirayoshi

I'm not big on mega-crossovers.

Xakko

deb's liking Wonder Woman, but the writer isn't staying long

J_Harper

That or House of M. I don't like the dominance Bendis and Millar has over the universe as a whole, since I don't care for either of them. And I think Quesada is a clown.

Kirayoshi

Plus the fact that T'

Kirayoshi

T'challa and Storm seem to be the only couple Joe Q doesn't want to break up!

Amokitty

I truly fear for Kiotr when Joss leaves, and the end is coming...

LoneRaven

ugh, they are not a couple

LoneRaven

they are a marketing scam

J_Harper

I'm glad that the War isn't touching Captain America right now. That's been a great title. I'm thinking about dumping Amazing.

LoneRaven

yeah, I dont want Joss to leave the book

J_Harper

I like how you think. You are very much right.

Kirayoshi

As soon as BP gets cancelled, which it will, mark my words, the wedding will be retconned!

J_Harper

Has he said definitively that he's leaving after 24?

Amokitty

Christ. I hate Ororo/T'Challa. Did anyone read the wedding ish?

Xakko

well, that and the annual

LoneRaven

I couldnt even look at it

MadR

I'm more worried about Joss....he has a history of 'going out with a bang'....

LoneRaven

yeah

LoneRaven

he also likes to mess with his couples when they are at their happiest

J_Harper

Well, I think I know what the bang is - Peter destroying Breakworld. :)

Kirayoshi

Oh god yes!

MadR

...and it wouldn't surprise me if he revived Piotr just to kill him again.

Amokitty

Well LoneRaven I'm glad you saved your money. It was HORRIBLE.

J_Harper

Eh, I think he's getting his couple issues out with Frost and Scott.

Kirayoshi

Although having telegraphed it at the end of #16, maybe it's not as direct as that!

MadR

Or, since Kitty is Buffy and Piotr is Angel, Kitty having to kill him....

LoneRaven

hmm I dont think Kitty would kill him

Xakko

what if Peter goes into the gladatorial arena showed in Astonishing #4 and becomes the king of Breakworld, and orders them to change their culture?

Kirayoshi

I've heard that theory; Kitty is Buffy, Peter is Angel and Pete is Spike.

LoneRaven

ya, I've heard it as well

J_Harper

That'd be interesting.

Amokitty

Xak, I'd like that!

Kirayoshi

Could work.

Kirayoshi

Although it might make it necessary for Piotr to remain on Breakworld.

Amokitty

I keep hearing people's theories about Peter dying again and it scares me!

Xakko

it's the "Star Trek" solution

Kirayoshi

Which won't help Kiotr at all.

Kirayoshi

Those long-distance relationships don't work.

LoneRaven

it would be kind of stupid to just bring him back and then kill him off again

J_Harper

Well, we'll wait and see.

J_Harper

Ahem... :/

Amokitty

Star Trek! Woo!

Xakko

we can always hope that Whedon tries something new

Kirayoshi

Anyone looking forward to J. Abrams take on Trek?

Amokitty

It's gonna be interesting K. I'm scared and excitied all at the same time.

Xakko

a bit. i lost interest during voyager and enterprise didn't hold my attention long

Kirayoshi

It won't be boring, that much I know.

J_Harper

May go see it. I'm afraid I don't care much for most media S.F. I'm a lit snob. :/

Erebus

I'm watching The Fifth Element

Kirayoshi

An odd but cool movie.

J_Harper

I've got to sit down and watch that in its entirety some day.

Kirayoshi

Although I can't abide Chris Tucker!

Amokitty

I'm definitely gonna ask some questions about that when I go to the Star Trek con next month.

Kirayoshi

Guy acts like Prince on helium!

J_Harper

Oh hell, I thought he was funny as DJ Ruby Rhod... :)

MadR

Anyone hear anything about X Men Evolution's last season coming out on dvd anytime soon?

Kirayoshi

A little too over the top.

Amokitty

I really, really, like that movie.

Xakko

wasn't there a season 5?

J_Harper

Everything about the Fifth Element was over the top. :)

LoneRaven

I haven't heard anything...

Kirayoshi

Except Bruce Willis, oddly enough.

LoneRaven

no there wasn't, only four seasons

Kirayoshi

He was like the bedrock that made the whole thing work.

Darkstorm5000

Me neither...

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Xakko

i lost track... ah.

Amokitty

I want to see Kitty and Peter on Evo so bad!

Erebus

LEAFEE!!!!

Xakko

rehello leafee!

Amokitty

Hi Leafee, glad you came back!

LeafeeLeBeau

Ohhh! Kitty and Piotr on Evo would be joy!

LoneRaven

yeah, I would have loved them on evo

J_Harper

Anyhow, I think the talk about Peter buying it is wishful thinking on part of the Keets.

MadR

Hi Leafee

Kirayoshi

Leafee.

Kirayoshi

Good to have ya back.

LoneRaven

they did have some interaction in dark horizon part 2

LeafeeLeBeau

Heh, thanks. Hi everyone, again!

LoneRaven

hey Leafee

LeafeeLeBeau

Yea, but that was too short... >.>

J_Harper

Though I haven't read any of the threads. I stay away from CBRF mostly these days.

Kirayoshi

Kitty's comments that he was just a big teddybear.

J_Harper

Hey there!

Xakko

it would have been weird if there was a season 5 with kiotr stuff. then we'd have to deal with the lancitty crew too

Kirayoshi

You guys check out my most recent one-shot story? Just curious.

LoneRaven

she wanted to be alone with him too, she wasn't objecting to it

Kirayoshi

Not to mention the Kurtty crew!

Amokitty

Jeremy, I hope you're right. The bile those people have been spouting lately is very disheartening. These guys are coming out of the woodwork.

J_Harper

Yes, I have. It was very good. I'm so far behind on my reviews it's not funny. Part of the burn out.

Kirayoshi

Thanks, J.

Xakko

is it just Ellis fans, or are there truly fans of the pairing?

Amokitty

Kurtty is sweet, but I can't get past their 616 friendship.

MadR

The Anya one? I think I reviewed....

J_Harper

I still think the majority of the Ketes are a vindictive bunch. And I don't think they've brought Peter back just to offf him again. He's too iconic an X-Man.

LoneRaven

kurt and kitty wont be anything more than friends. I can never see anything more happening...

MadR

RLs been turning my brain into tapioca pudding lately, so....

Kirayoshi

My main gripe with Lance was that he had the wrong name.

Amokitty

Good point, Xak. I don't think there's a difference between the two.

Kirayoshi

He wasn't really Avalanche, he was Richtor!

LoneRaven

ugh...I hated that avalanche was named lance

Kirayoshi

That would have worked better, I think.

Kirayoshi

Lance Alvers.

Xakko

yeah, but even then- as fashion conscious as Evo Kitty was, would she REALLY end up with a guy who looks like he bathes once a month

LoneRaven

ya, he acted more like Rictor. Though, it was kinda like putting kete into a evo a bit.

Kirayoshi

It's the bad-boy thing.

J_Harper

Have the Ketes been really bad on CBRF?

Kirayoshi

Every girl goes through it.

Xakko

pretty bad, yeah

Kirayoshi

Kim Possible ran around with Eric, but finally wised up and got together with Ron!

Xakko

and really, aside from one, they aren't interested in debating, just disparaging Kiotr

J_Harper

This is still going on? After the Wisdom series thread fell off the board?

Amokitty

One of the reasons I'm so happy now, is that lately I'm seeing the "Kiotr" concept everywhere. It's on Kitty's legends figure, hints on Evolution and previous cartoons, video games.... I think the couple is becoming iconic like Scott and Jean.

Kirayoshi

Kitty's legends figure?

MadR

Glad I stay away from the main 'comics' part of the fandom.

Xakko

yeah... it comes wtih Astonishing #5

Kirayoshi

Oh.

J_Harper

Fans can really suck sometimes. :/

LoneRaven

how lovely

Amokitty

Oh Jeremy, it's getting worse. Much worse. I never a bunch of people so intent to rain on someone's parade.

Kirayoshi

I'd have guessed UXM #168.

Amokitty

Saw, I mean... heh.

LoneRaven

some people are just immature

Kirayoshi

Tell me about it!

Amokitty

Yep, K. the Astonishing #6 cover is on the box.

J_Harper

I wish CBRF was monitored more strickly. This shit wouldn't fly on RPG.Net.

J_Harper

Strictly, I meant.

Xakko

apparently i'm becoming a bit of a nuisance on CBR with my pro Colossus view. i'm getting challenged for making statements like early Colossus was too noble to fall in love with Jean, as Logan did

Kirayoshi

I still find it comforting that the bulk of "Write me an X" fanfics are Kiotr-based.

J_Harper

?

Amokitty

What are people saying, Xak? *looks worried*

Xakko

nothing bad, just someone said that Colossus cheated on Kitty, and then kissed Rogue... saying i had Piotr on a pedestal

J_Harper

Seriously? I didn't even know that Peter had any such feelings towards Jean in that era. I thought maybe they were going to do something during Gold Team, considering what was happening between Scott and Betsy.

Kirayoshi

Whereas Pete acted like a petulant jerk when Kitty took one look at Rigby Fallon?

J_Harper

And how Peter was having a lot of interaction with Jean.

Amokitty

I hate it when I hear about Peter having feelings for Rogue, or Meggan. It never happened!!

Kirayoshi

Oh yes, clearly Wisdom is a paragon of virtue!

J_Harper

Blonds don't count. ;)

Xakko

it was a hypothetical. i'd said that there was no "Jean-Logan" in early second team X-men, and the back up story could as easily have used Kurt instead of Logan, but not Piotr

MadR

Hee!

Amokitty

Hah! Rose that was so funny!

Kirayoshi

Only to ten, then they have to take off their shoes.

Kirayoshi

Sorry if there are any blonds in the chatroom. That was a cheap shot!

Amokitty

K, you stinker!

J_Harper

As for the kiss with Rogue, it was OOC. Two, Peter and Kitty weren't together at the time, so it wasn't cheating. Three, they dropped it like a hot potato.

Xakko

CC was definitely setting up a triangle with Colossus- Rogue and Gambit- the man she loved but couldn't touch and the man she could touch and didn't love

Amokitty

Nope I'm brunette.

Kirayoshi

I stumbled on a decent Kiotr story set during that issue.

J_Harper

By Personification of Fluff? I read that one. Pretty good.

Kirayoshi

That's the one.

Kirayoshi

"

Kirayoshi

"Time Only Goes One Way"

MadR

I'm trying to set the Piotr/Rogue kiss in Movieverse for my next story.

J_Harper

What's on the story front? Any new ideas evolving?

Xakko

revenge for kitty/bobby?

MadR

Tons of ideas, little time to write.

Amokitty

It's hard listening to others talk about Colossus like they're experts. When they're wrong (as they often are) I want to point out their mistakes, but that would cause trouble. Perhaps same trouble Xak is speaking of.

Kirayoshi

I'm working on a big Kitty/Illyana scene for "Family Reunions", plus an encounter between the two Peters.

Kirayoshi

Don't worry, Peter doesn't punch out Pete in this one.

MadR

Xak: touching him in the Danger Room with little damage, just before she hears about the cure....

J_Harper

That I'm looking forward to. Plus I'm eager to see if you encorporate that line I gave you. I'm egotistical that way. ;)

Xakko

hrmmm... i'd like to see that, rose

MadR

Kirayoshi===Can't wait!

J_Harper

It that in the novelization?

Xakko

yours too, K. i miss yana so much

Kirayoshi

I want to re-create Pete in my story.

MadR

In the novelization, Piotr 'lends' her the armor in the danger room, and just goes human. Since in the other two movies there's been fx when she touches someone.....

Kirayoshi

Make him similar to what he was in the books, but at the same time not a carbon copy of John Constatine.

J_Harper

Ah. I see. I heard that the novelization had scenes not in the movie, like Peter fighting Juggernaut.

Amokitty

Rose, that's a cool idea. Will there be any Kiotr though?

Xakko

wasn't that cut from the movie, Jeremy?

J_Harper

Yeah, I heard they had planned it, but ran out of money. :/ I was disappointed.

MadR

I try to picture Pete Wisdom and I still get Spike from Angel The Series. Around the 'cavemen and astronauts' conversation.

Xakko

too bad. i still haven't seen it

Kirayoshi

Maybe they should wait a few years before the fourth movie.

J_Harper

Lia told me about that.

Amokitty

K, Pete needs some attention. Something that individualizes him as a character. You can't even talk about Pete without mentioning Kitty, and that's wrong.

J_Harper

Cavemen and Astronauts.

Kirayoshi

That's my problem with Pete! He doesn't exist except as Kitty's boyfriend or ex-boyfriend.

LoneRaven

the peter and juggernaut was cut from the movie because they wanted that kitty part instead

MadR

I'll have some kiotr-ish content, of course.

Kirayoshi

Like I said, there's no 'there' there!

J_Harper

Oh. I thought it was because of time and money constraints.

J_Harper

That's like asking if a duck can swim, Amo. ;)

Xakko

well, i know at least one CBR person who can come up witha credible Wisdom without her... the whole spy angle

Amokitty

LoneRaven, I was so mad when i saw the movie! I was expecting a classic Peter/Juggernaut matchup!

Kirayoshi

Plus i heard a rumor that Daniel Cudmore is a lousy actor.

MadR

I think my favorite scene from the novelization isn't in the movie, havent' seen it yet...

J_Harper

It's possible.

LoneRaven

ya I was hoping for that as well

Xakko

should've cast a big russian kid.

LoneRaven

ugh, no wonder he never talks, he has no accent

MadR

...Pryo trying to melt Piotr and his armor glowing red hot, igniting wooden debris....

LoneRaven

thas probably why he has like one line

J_Harper

You're honestly not missing much, Rose. I didn't feel like I wasted my money, but I wouldn't go out of the way to see it again.

MadR

DVD's out October 3rd. I'll catch it then.

J_Harper

Well, he can't be worse than Berry!

Darkstorm5000

My sentiments exactly

Amokitty

I'm looking forward to the deleted scenes.

Kirayoshi

Plus I understand that they wrote off Cyclops mainly to get back at him for costarring in the new Superman movie.

LoneRaven

thats the reason

Amokitty

Isn't that awful? Just to spite Marsden they screw over the fans.

Kirayoshi

And please, would someone tell Halle Berry that she has no talent?

Kirayoshi

Why does that woman keep getting roles?

LoneRaven

only if shes allowed to be punched in the face afterwards

LoneRaven

because shes the first black actress that came to mind

Amokitty

OH!!!! Hee.

Kirayoshi

Wha, was Angela Bassett busy?

Erebus

I hate Chris Rock....

Amokitty

Exactly!

Kirayoshi

She'd have kicked butt as Ororo!

Erebus

In this movie....

Kirayoshi

Chris Rock?

J_Harper

Heh.

Kirayoshi

What did he play?

LeafeeLeBeau

Erebus, Chris Rock has nothing to do with X-Men or Kiotr.

Erebus

yes

Erebus

Umm I don't know

Erebus

sorry leafee....

Erebus

:(

Amokitty

Anyone would've done a better job!

Kirayoshi

I saw a new trailer that looks like fun.

Kirayoshi

The movie is called Man of the Year.

Darkstorm5000

I read Angela actually wanted the part and they had unofficially talked to her about it, but then...nothing

Amokitty

S'okay! We don't bite! Much. ::happy

MadR

Hollywoodland looks interesting.

Xakko

i don't know if it would've ended that differently if Marsden hadn't done Superman Returns, since they've been pushing Jean-Logan since film 1

Kirayoshi

Robin Williams plays a late-night comic(think Jon Stewart on the Daily Show) who decides to run for President, mainly for laughs, but ends up winning the election.

J_Harper

Yeah, we're not Ultimate Silver Surfer. I managed to read the final part of Ultimate Galactus.

Darkstorm5000

brb

J_Harper

;)

Xakko

that sounds like fun, K... i'd see that

Erebus

I wanna see The Black Dahlia

J_Harper

Ultimate Silver has a lot of teeth.

Amokitty

OOOOh, me too Erebus!

J_Harper

Only movie I'm really looking forward to is Pan's Labrynth.

Kirayoshi

Directed by Barry Levinson, who directed Williams in Good Morning Vietnam, and also did Wag the Dog.

Kirayoshi

I'm also intrigued by Hollywoodland, a movie about the unsolved death of George Reeves, TV's first Superman.

Amokitty

Hmmm.... *wonders if the hubby is coming by soon*.....

Amokitty

brb.

Kirayoshi

I hear Labyrinth, I think of David Bowie and the Bog of Eternal Stench!

Xakko

i watch so very few movies in the theatres...

J_Harper

Nah, this one is going to be a horror story by the director of Hellboy.

MadR

I usually wait for the tape/dvd

Xakko

i'm wondering about the sequel/prequel to Dark Crystal myself

Kirayoshi

I like going to movie theaters.

Kirayoshi

It's more of an occasion that way.

J_Harper

Part of what looks like is going to be a series of horror movies set during the Spanish Civil War.

Kirayoshi

More of a shared experience.

MadR

too many talking idiots in my neck of the woods.

J_Harper

I saw the Dark Crystal in a theatre a week or two ago. I forgot what a beautiful movie that is. I miss Jim Henson.

Kirayoshi

I splurged on the complete Storyteller DVD recently.

Amokitty

Sadly Amocat has passed out. <g> Oh well, there's always next month!

Kirayoshi

Oh well...

Xakko

well, hope he had a fun trip... tell him we said hi!

J_Harper

Heh. It's only nine out where you are. Wimp. It's after midnight here in the frigid wastelands of New England. ;)

Amokitty

His trip sucked. And I will, Xak!

Xakko

and the... boring wastelands of Western New York!

Amokitty

Well jeremy, he's got an excuse. He flew in from Reno this evening.

Xakko

and i've got a fantasy draft tomorrow

Kirayoshi

I heard rumors that Henson productions is planning a sequel to Dark Crystal.

Kirayoshi

Either animatronic or CGI, or mix of both.

J_Harper

New York... Grrrrr... God, did the Sox get embaressed last week. :/

Xakko

they are, with ... genndy tartakovsky?

J_Harper

yeah, I remember hearing that.

Kirayoshi

Samurai Jack!

Xakko

buffalo, jeremy. we've got the AAA team for Cleveland, and no major league stuff

MadR

Another Dark Crystal movie would be cool.

Erebus

Full Metal Alchemist

Erebus

mmm

Amokitty

I like Samurai Jack! My nephew and I have watched a lot of it!

J_Harper

Not a yankee fan?

Erebus

I love Samurai Jack

Kirayoshi

That was a classy series!

Kirayoshi

He also did Powerpuff Girls, IIRC.

MadR

It's been so long since I've seen it....I should try and track down a copy

Amokitty

True.

J_Harper

I'm actually not too big of a Sox fans. I'm a bit too fair weather.

Erebus

What does IIRC stand for?

J_Harper

If I recall correctly.

Kirayoshi

If I Recall Correctly

Erebus

oh ok

Xakko

well, not a huge fan, 'cause well, it's not something i pay attention to

Erebus

^.^

J_Harper

Yeah. Sports can be boring.

Xakko

growing up i was a greg nettles fan, tho'

Amokitty

It can also stand for If I remember correctly.

Kirayoshi

Anyone ever stumble onto Bleedman's Powerpuff Girls fan-comic?

Xakko

never heard of it... what's it like?

Kirayoshi

Lemme see if I can find the link:

Amokitty

Damn. I need to read faster!!!

J_Harper

Not as boring as the party I was invited to, tonight. Heh. It was going to have beer and smokes and even a band. Sounds like lots of fun. ::rolleyes

Kirayoshi

Here's the link; ppg.snafu-comics.com

Amokitty

You guys are good putting up with me. ::blush

J_Harper

These chats are a pleasure, Amo.

Kirayoshi

In the story, the PPGs attend a new school, and end up befriending Dexter.

Amokitty

Awwww. No wonder Lia loves you!

Xakko

after a couple months of being attacked by Kete fans, these are sooooo welcome

J_Harper

::wub

Kirayoshi

There's also appearances by Samurai Jack, Time Squad, Courage the Cowardly Dog, Invader Zim, the Fairly Oddparents and I think Jimmy Neutron.

Amokitty

I only platonically flirt. Promise!

Amokitty

:)

MadR

And I needed the fannish break from RL....sigh.

J_Harper

Heh heh heh. Good, cause I'm strictly monogamous.

Kirayoshi

It's actually very well-done. Stylized manga-style art, professonal-quality coloring, good story too.

J_Harper

I've heard good things about that strip, K.

Kirayoshi

He's also working on a Grim and Mandy story with appearances by Spawn and Nightmare Before Christmas.

Amokitty

Women admire faithful guys!!! I know I do!

Kirayoshi

A little darker.

J_Harper

:)

J_Harper

Anyhoo, I don't have much on the story front myself. I've actually been thinking a bit about the sequel to Deathless I have in my head, but I have to finish the main story first. :/

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Kirayoshi

I got that.

Amokitty

I always worry about how the things I say get received online. It's easy to think the wrong thing. I always worry if somebody takes me or my flirting too seriously.

Erebus

g2g

Kirayoshi

I'm also thinking of doing a side-chapter to my back-burner Spider-Man fic, where MJ and Aunt May have a conversation.

Amokitty

I hope you come again!

MadR

Bye Erebus

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J_Harper

Take care. :)

Kirayoshi

Later

J_Harper

On line can be tricking.

Amokitty

It's been cool to some new people here.

J_Harper

I hope you aren't scared by loudmouths like me, guys. ;)

Xakko

yeah, it is...

J_Harper

I'm actually pretty quiet in real life.

Xakko

TALK IN CAPS and i'll be scared

MadR

I have been through media fandom, I've seen everything.

J_Harper

Heh. Back when I was into Ranma 1/2, I remember the fiancee wars. Those were nasty.

LeafeeLeBeau

Hm, I must be off to. It's been great listening to everyyone of you.

LeafeeLeBeau

Take care. =D

J_Harper

Take care. :)

Kirayoshi

Later, LeBeau!

MadR

Bye Leafee LeBeau

Xakko

i know after meeting up with the LWW gang in Utah a couple weeks ago, i would love to maybe someday have a Kiotr get together, perhaps part of a larger event

Xakko

g'nite leafee!

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Amokitty

Jeremy, that's true. It would be easier if people could see you, then they'd better know your meaning. I'll flirt with anybody. even Rose! (and I'm strictly straight) I just wouldn't want to give anyone the wrong idea. The internet is cool but treacherous.

J_Harper

yeah. You have to be careful.

J_Harper

LWW?

Kirayoshi

Easy, Jack Harkness! ::rolleyes

Xakko

livewire world

Amokitty

Xakko, I agree. That would be fantastic.

MadR

I worry more about offending people

Xakko

it's a site maintained by a former CBR person - and two of the members just got married, and a bunch of us attended

Xakko

and we had flat squirrel!

J_Harper

Ah. Kewl. :)

Amokitty

Me too, Rose. I mean well, but that doen't always compute.

J_Harper

Lia is thinking of going to Comic Con next year. She's also thinking of dressing up as Black Canary! ::wub

Amokitty

Wow.

Xakko

i think we're comfortable enough with each other to know no one hear intends harm

Xakko

we've talked about comic con too

Amokitty

I hope so!

J_Harper

I'm thinking of going as Kevin Matchstick, just to give me an excuse to have a baseball bat. Grrr...

Xakko

slively (from LWW) already has a room reserved

Kirayoshi

Hey, another Mage fan!

J_Harper

Unfortunately I don't have the physique. :(

Xakko

if deb and I dressed up, it would be as Kitty and Peter- in street clothes

Amokitty

My intentions were misread by someone recently, and I'm paraniod now.

Kirayoshi

Just remember, J, Magic isn't a color, Magic IS color!

J_Harper

Heh. :)

Xakko

octarine

MadR

Aw Amo....

MadR

Xakko...discworld?

Kirayoshi

I still want to see Matt Wagner's final chapter in that series.

J_Harper

That's rough, Amo. What happened, if you don't mind talking about it?

Xakko

yes, Rose!

Amokitty

You what I'm talking about huh, rose/

J_Harper

Did he finish the Hero Defined?

Kirayoshi

He finished that one, yeah.

J_Harper

I just regret he never drew an arc for Sandman Mystery Theatre.

J_Harper

Good.

Kirayoshi

THe third chapter's supposed to be called The Hero Denied.

MadR

I was on a mailing list for The Sentinel....not naming names but I call it Contrary Twits......

Kirayoshi

Right now, I understand Matt's working on another Batman story, The Mad Monk.

Amokitty

You just can't win, huh?

Kirayoshi

A remake of a classic Golden Age batman book.

J_Harper

Heh. Has to be better than All Star.

MadR

....a couple of interactions with many listies and mods had me seriously wonder about my communication skills.....

J_Harper

I had a run in with someone a few months ago on a mailing list. My God, I was angry.

Kirayoshi

I still can't believe that ASB is such a piece of drek while All Star Superman is pure gold!

Amokitty

Me too!!! I'm glad to know everyone here, and that I think they know me well enough to not assume the worst.

MadR

When you end up writing fifteen posts to explain what you said in your first one, it's time to admit you aren't speaking the same version of English and back away slowly....

Kirayoshi

I get the feeling that Morrison just likes DC better than Marvel!

Darkstorm5000

Man, that's wild

J_Harper

No, this clown was being a deliberate punk.

Amokitty

Yes, Rose. I hope your experiences have gotten better.

J_Harper

Mine on the FFML haven't been. I was going to recommend it to you all for quality feedback, but now I don't know.

MadR

I'm about at the point where I can read fic for the show without seething...but at least leaving that fandom led me into Kiotrness.

Xakko

i'm not on any mailing lists... are they worth any attention?

J_Harper

Was that for the TV show?

Amokitty

Three cheers for Kiotr!

J_Harper

Kiotr rocks.

MadR

Yup, the old upn tv show.

J_Harper

Depends on the list. It's like everything.

Amokitty

It rocks so long as you and Lia don't leave us, Jeremy.

Kirayoshi

Oh, way to guilt-trip him, Amo!

Kirayoshi

Even the die-hard among us need a break.

J_Harper

Well, we'll never truly leave. Kitty is her favorite character ever, and I'm very fond of Peter. We may just not be as active. :)

Kirayoshi

I was a rabid Buffy fan, before the shark was jumped.

Amokitty

Hey, I don't want them to go! I'm selfish like that! Sorry...

Xakko

aside from Astonishing and Dan Slott, i'm getting pretty burned out on comics in general

Kirayoshi

Don't forget Robert Kirkman.

Kirayoshi

Invincible is a kickass book!

Amokitty

I love you all!!

Darkstorm5000

I think I'm getting to that point too

Xakko

well, i get invincible in trades... and if busiek ever turns out more Astro City

J_Harper

I promise that I will at the very least finish Deathless. And I would really like to eventually introduce you all to Turgarin Zmeivitch. If you thought Koschei was a bastard, wait 'til you see him in action. :)

Kirayoshi

He just turned out a special

Xakko

invincinble is pretty awesome tho

Amokitty

Don't even think it DS. I'm scared now...\

Kirayoshi

Check out "The Eagle and the Mountain".

Kirayoshi

Features Samaritan and introduces his arch-foe, Infidel.

Xakko

oh, cool!

Darkstorm5000

Don't worry, I was talking about comic-reading ::smile

Amokitty

I can't wait Jeremy.

Xakko

i would love to see Busiek take over Astonishing... i think he has Kiotr love

Kirayoshi

Plus in a couple of months, we have another four-issue arc as part of the Dark Age.

Xakko

or, at least, likes Colossus

Amokitty

*whew!*

Kirayoshi

I don't think he'll work for Marvel until Joe is fired.

J_Harper

Busiek had a falling out with da Q?

Xakko

IDNKT

Kirayoshi

I heard there was bad blood between tehm

Kirayoshi

I could be wrong.

Amokitty

Heh, I know I'D have a falling out if I met him!

Xakko

busiek loves continuity... it seems to matter little to joey Q

J_Harper

He's pretty damn obnoxious, I'll give you that.

Kirayoshi

I do know that DC's current crossover policy is, No more Marvel/DC crossovers until Joe is no longer EIC.

Amokitty

Question for you guys. I'm meeting Ed Brubaker next month at a signing. Anything good I should ask him?

Kirayoshi

Can you promise never to write Gambit, ever ever?

J_Harper

Hmmmm... I'll think about that.

Xakko

i should probably refrain from saying anything

Amokitty

Ha!!

J_Harper

?

Kirayoshi

Although I did hear a good idea for a new codename for him; Deathdealer.

Xakko

i'd probably ask why he had to mess with history like that

Amokitty

My LCS guy goes bowling with him. He kicked Ed's ass.

Kirayoshi

Oh, and any chance of seeing Matt Murdock have his day in court?

Xakko

really? hrmmm... he seems very sensitive to criticism

Amokitty

Genesis bugged me too, Xak.

Kirayoshi

There's a good question for Brubaker.

Xakko

he gets really testy when people complain about things from DG or Uncanny

MadR

brb

Amokitty

I'm not certain about the direction Uncanny is going in. I'm worried about Vulcan taking over the book.

J_Harper

One of my problems with comics - they're always doing shit like that. Retcons and what-not, never forging new ground. Whedon, at least, is adding new elements to the X-Men.

Kirayoshi

There's a fine line between being a slave to continuity and ignoring it completely.

Kirayoshi

Either way is not a good idea.

Amokitty

Funny. I keep hearing that Whedon is regressing things. I swear you can never please anybody.

J_Harper

Quite frankly, then he should grow the hell up. Criticim comes with the writing territory, no matter what genre or form you write in.

J_Harper

Some of it is good, some of it is bad. Either way, deal or get into some other line of work.

Amokitty

That begs the question. Have any of you been flamed for your work?

Kirayoshi

I had a few flames from the Spuffy crowd for my Buffy/Willow stories.

Kirayoshi

I ignore them.

J_Harper

Once in Ranma fan fiction, but I deserved it. Other than that, never, which surprises me.

Darkstorm5000

Nothing really major, but I've been told my stories sucked a few times

Kirayoshi

Wha, not even the Kete crowd? Or do they just ignore fanfiction.net?

J_Harper

Don't know.

MadR

I've had a few flames.

Xakko

i had one reviewer who was upset that Kits was about Kiotr. most of it is cool

Amokitty

That shows what they know, DS.

J_Harper

What have you been flamed about, Rose?

MadR

none in my kiotr writing.

J_Harper

Ah.

Amokitty

How do you respond to this anyway?

Xakko

i'm going to switch computers... the t-storm is passed

Amokitty

Politely? Civily? Or just ignore like K saud?

Kirayoshi

As I said, I delete it as it happens.

J_Harper

Closing thing I had to a flame was from the clown on the FFML I mentioned. I was about ready to go to war over it, but something happen that got my priorities straight.

Amokitty

I hate storms. Oklahoma is famous for them.

J_Harper

Recently, that is.

Darkstorm5000

If it's something consturctive, then I'll give it some thought. Otherwise, I go about my business

Kirayoshi

We get lightning storms occasionally here in Spokane.

Kirayoshi

We had a dandy one on the Forth of July.

Kirayoshi

Started just as the fireworks did.

Amokitty

Kyle and Yost haven't been very civil when it comes to disention.

MadR

I tried to be polite and explained my choices in writing what I did/

J_Harper

Who are they?

Amokitty

They write New X-Men.

Xakko

kyle and yost have killed off more named mutants than just about anyone

J_Harper

Ah, those two.

Kirayoshi

Oh, yeah. They killed off half the class!

Amokitty

They are the ones responsible for killing everybody.

Darkstorm5000

Talk about a mutant massacre

Kirayoshi

Plus they finally killed off Rev. Stryker, right?

Xakko

brb

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Darkstorm5000

Yep

MadR

I haven't even learned any of the new kids, and they're dead already?

Amokitty

And yet, they wrote Evolution.

Darkstorm5000

That's what's so sad

Kirayoshi

I think Elixer's still alive, but not in great shape.

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xakko

hi again

Amokitty

Yes, isn't it awful? But of course X-23 is alive. She's their baby.

J_Harper

It's odd. For the longest time, it seemed that Stryker wasn't really part of continuity, and then all of a sudden he is. They never really referenced God Loves, Man Kills in the books for a long time.

Darkstorm5000

Probably because of him being in X2

Amokitty

Me either. I don't see how it could fit.

Kirayoshi

Well, they had Stryker as a general in X-2, it's synergy!

J_Harper

It's such an important story, but Claremont never used it as a touchstone.

J_Harper

True.

Amokitty

I always thought of GLMK as it's own AU.

MadR

That's another one I'm going to have to read then...

J_Harper

That's the feeling I got too.

Kirayoshi

I especially loved the scene where Kitty stood up to Stryker toward the end.

J_Harper

It's a good one, Rose. Classic Claremont from before the brain eater got him.

Amokitty

I'm going to have to post some GLMK images. I need to get the trade. I don't really want to scan my original graphic novel.

Kirayoshi

Hey, Amo, I got a request for the next gallery posting.

Amokitty

Oh?

Kirayoshi

The page where Kitty asked Peter for a 'special' in AXM #12.

Kirayoshi

"I promise I'll be back."

Amokitty

It's already posted, dear. ::biggrin

xakko

that's such a tender scene...

Kirayoshi

Missed it.

Amokitty

It's in your request album in the Gallery.

Kirayoshi

Of course, you gotta post Kitty's throwdown with Emma!

Kirayoshi

She curbstomped her!

J_Harper

Lia was very happy about that. :D

Amokitty

Natch.

J_Harper

Lia HATES Emma...

Amokitty

I will K!

MadR

Head-desk.....Xakko, you had to mention octarine.....

Amokitty

Honestly. How many of us LIKE Emma??

Kirayoshi

I just thought of something.

MadR

New plotbunny.

Kirayoshi

Why did the rest of the HFC disapppear when Kitty fought Emma?

J_Harper

Too busy looting that vault, maybe.

Kirayoshi

A clue, maybe?

Kirayoshi

They were present up to that moment, then they disappear?

MadR

But how do I GET Lockheed into Lady Sybil's Sunshine Sanctuary For Displaced Dragons?

J_Harper

Hmmmm....

Kirayoshi

I still can't wait for the explaination of how Emma and the White Queen can be in two different places.

xakko

i don't think Lockheed could ever be confused with a Swamp Dragon rose

Kirayoshi

Quiet Pinky!

J_Harper

Dammit, K. You're making me speculate now. Maybe it is all in her head. Maybe it's all just mental projections, some sort of trap set up in her by Nova.

Kirayoshi

That's my current theory.

Amokitty

Is Perfection really Emma though? Do we know for sure? I keep wondering if Cassie has something to do with this.

xakko

we're still making our way through the Pinky and the Brain boxed set

Kirayoshi

The good news is we only have to wait one month for the next issue!

xakko

i

Amokitty

Heh. Haven't watched that in ages.

J_Harper

That is good news. BRB.

xakko

er, i'd rather Cassie (and Perfection) were products of Emma, not the other way around

Kirayoshi

I think so, but if Jimmy cracks corn and no one cares, why does he keep doing it?

Amokitty

Since Astonishing is going monthly, how does everyone feel about monthly chats? Is it getting boring at all?

Amokitty

Too much of a good thing as it were?

MadR

I like the idea of monthly chats.

xakko

not boring for me

Kirayoshi

I'm sure we'll have plenty to chat about.

Darkstorm5000

It sounds fine to me

MadR

weekly might get a little too much...

Kirayoshi

Thank God this ain't the 52 chatroom!

Amokitty

I'm really glad. As long as you want 'em, I'll be overjoyed to have them.

Kirayoshi

Seriously, they killed Booster!

Amokitty

Those SOB's killed Booster!!!

J_Harper

I'll go with it.

Amokitty

Yeah!

Amokitty

LOL.

J_Harper

Well, they need to finish pissing on Griffith's run on JLA...

Kirayoshi

Of course they remade Booster into such a horses-ass that he won't be mourned!

Amokitty

Bad enough that they killed Ted. Now this?

MadR

My last hope for DC comics was dashed there.

Kirayoshi

Although I like the theory that Supernova is Booster from an alternate timeline.

xakko

i don't think i could get into DC after the whole Infinite Crisis thing

Kirayoshi

Batman at least is cool again!

Kirayoshi

Dini's writing Detective!

Amokitty

I read the Blue Beetle when he was a Charleton character. *sniff*

MadR

I'm much happier with Boostle fanfic and the mulletverse, even if it is a little slashy....

J_Harper

Have they retconned Thompkins yet?

Kirayoshi

Not yet.

Kirayoshi

But give them time.

Kirayoshi

They brought back Son of the Demon.

xakko

Dini, really? that is cool

Amokitty

Boostle slash. That makes me laugh so much...

Kirayoshi

I'm still going with the theory that Thomkins was killed and replaced by Clayface just before War Games.

Kirayoshi

I recently splurged and bought a 'Best of the Spirit' tpb.

J_Harper

Those Spirit archives tempt me.

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Kirayoshi

Try the tpb. Reasonably priced sampler of coolness.

Amokitty

I mentioned earlier that I'm buying Shazam stuff after decades away from the titles.

Kirayoshi

I'm waiting for Jeff Smith's Shazam book next year.

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MadR

bak

J_Harper

I wish that Fantagraphics would reprint their Prince Valiant collections. By the time I was aware of them, all the early volumes were out of print.

Amokitty

I've dropped some X-titles so I have the money. the x-books aren't what they used to be.

MadR

http://community.livejournal.com/boostle/

Amokitty

Thank you!

MadR

You've got to read anything by DoctorV in Boostle. Booster tries to bring Ted back with magic, and things get weirder.

Kirayoshi

I'm still wary about Frank Miller directing a Spirit movie.

Amokitty

I'll do that,Rose. Appreciate the Hermione/Viktor fic recs too. You're so right. they are very Kiotrish.

J_Harper

I think I'm going to drop Amazing.

J_Harper

I've all ready dropped New Avengers and Thunderbolts.

Kirayoshi

I dropped it long ago!

Kirayoshi

Call me when either Slott or Kirkman takes over!

Amokitty

Really? Zemo not doing it for you anymore? Or is the writing?

J_Harper

Hell, I must be a glutton for punishment, then.

J_Harper

I just wasn't reading it, so I figured why spend money on it? I've got a years worth of issues I haven't even touched.

J_Harper

I dropped New Avengers 'cause I thought it was hackwork. Apathy killed Thunderbolts for me.

Amokitty

I'm not happy with Carey. The way everybody praises it, I think there must be something wrong with me.

Amokitty

I think I'm dropping it.

Kirayoshi

Actually I heard that T-Birds is one of the best books connected to Civil War.

J_Harper

Carey's X-Men?

Kirayoshi

But I'm avoiding most Marvel, at least until a few months after CW.

Amokitty

Me? I'm tired of Civil War. And now the damn thing's delayed.

Amokitty

Yep.

Darkstorm5000

I like Carey's Rogue, but the rest of the story isn't doing much for me

J_Harper

Me too. I'm thinking about dropping FF because of the damn civil war tie ins.

MadR

I wish they'd just stop with the multicrossover, big events, and just tell some damn stories.

J_Harper

Carey is a good writer. His Lucifer is excellent.

Kirayoshi

Anyone wanna bet that they delayed CW because the ending leaked and they're quickly writing an alternate ending?

J_Harper

But maybe he's not suited for super heroes?

xakko

i bought Carey's first issue for the one panel of Colossus... just... blah

J_Harper

What was the ending suppose to be?

Kirayoshi

I have no idea.

Amokitty

I know. It's time to start focusing on the individual books and NOT the crossovers. Another reason I hate Black Panther. Why was the war such an issue? It's a wedding!!!

Kirayoshi

I was just guessing that someone figured it out and Marvel has to rewrite it.

Darkstorm5000

I think the problem with CW is you have writers' telling about three of four different versions of what the 'capes' are supposed to be fighting about

J_Harper

They use to. They realized that cross overs actually were not good for business and stopped doing them. They seem to have forgotten that lesson.

J_Harper

But Civil War is selling well, so they'll keeping doing stuff like this. :/

J_Harper

Ah.

Amokitty

It's too much. I'm on overload with it.

Kirayoshi

I heard a report from one of the cons that after CW, Marvel won't be doing any major crossovers for awhile.

MadR

It makes it harder for me to track down the trades. Especially when the local bookstore's not shelving as many superhero books to make room for manga

J_Harper

Thank god!

xakko

and DC had great success with IC and with 52

Amokitty

And besides that, I don't have the frigging money for all of that!

Amokitty

seconded.

Kirayoshi

Hear hear!

J_Harper

I just hope the fall out from Civil War isn't too catastrophic.

Kirayoshi

Who are you kidding?

J_Harper

I know. I'm a dreamer that way.

xakko

well, at least Piotr isn't the pro-reg X-man (so far)

Kirayoshi

Before the next year's out, the whole thing will be forgotten and Marvel will go back to business as usual!

Amokitty

I was thinking I could maybe write a story for myself about Kitty and Peter in africa for Storm's wedding. Now I've heard today that it takes place before Torn. I feel very out of the loop.

J_Harper

Well, except maybe for da Q's pet peeves. Nice knowing you, MJ. It's been fun.

Kirayoshi

Someone on CBRF said that Marvel's not about change but 'the illusion of change'.

Amokitty

Joey Q's dislike of MJ scares me.

MadR

Amokitty: you can write the story anyway, just call it au

J_Harper

Funny that, since, as Alan Moore has pointed out, Lee's ten years of Marvel were nothing BUT change in status quo.

Kirayoshi

As much as he hates MJ, he'll hate the nosedive in sales the Spider-Man titles will take if he kills her off more!

Darkstorm5000

I don't get the whole MJ-hating from him

xakko

it was weird- Justin (Uncle Nobs) on CBR started a thread about reading large runs of material and discussing them. we started with GSX-men #1 and 94-106, and in the letters, there was a fan who said that the "new" team wouldn't stick

Amokitty

I suppose I could. I just hate thinking one thing, and then finding out you were wrong all along.

Kirayoshi

How can you change the status quo if there is no status quo?

Kirayoshi

All these stories that 'will change the MU forever'!

Kirayoshi

Let's establish a status quo before shaking it up, huh?

MadR

Xakko, heh. Everybody has their favorites....

Kirayoshi

Or else, shaking up the status quo will BE the status quo, and the only way to shake things up will be to do nothing!

xakko

well, the guy who wrote that wanted change, but didn't believe the new team would stick. later, a guy wanted the old team + Wolverine.

Amokitty

I couldn't join Nob's asignment this time. Too much going on at home. I'm going to try for the next one.

J_Harper

Do you think if they somehow get rid of MJ, beit death, divorce, or Scarlet Witch whammy, the titles will shed readers catastrophicly?

Kirayoshi

Or did I get too zen for the room?

J_Harper

Heh.

Darkstorm5000

I'll stop reading Spidey, I'm at that point already

Amokitty

Ha. Not at all K. I think it would take a lot to faze us.

MadR

When the next Spider-man movie comes out, and newbies pick up their first book, and they liked Kirsten Dunst....MJ's not in the book, they aren't buying a second.

Kirayoshi

Ooh, my favorite Hitchcock movie's on TNT!

xakko

i think CC put it best in that Marvel has shifted to the paradigm where a writer comes in, does his 12-24 issues, then takes off with little regard for what came before and none for what comes next

Kirayoshi

Anyone see the actress they picked for Gwen?

xakko

opie's kid?

Amokitty

That's one of my pet peeves Xakko. There's no respect anymore.

Kirayoshi

She played the blind girl in "The Village"

J_Harper

Lia is very happy about Gwen being in the movie. Gwen is one of her favorite characters.

Kirayoshi

And she's a redhead in real life.

Amokitty

Yes. Bryce is good!

J_Harper

Snort. Ah, the irony. :)

Kirayoshi

So the redhead has to bleach her hair while the blond has to dye it red!

xakko

Whedon, at least, seems to be trying to build on both CC and Morrison

Kirayoshi

Go figure!

MadR

Heh.

Amokitty

Oh the irony.

MadR

Whedon's a bit geek for a pro, though.

Amokitty

Superman disappointed me a little bit. I have higher hopes for SpiderMan.

Kirayoshi

Haven't seen the new Superman

Amokitty

Am I the only one who didn't love it?

Kirayoshi

Dunno if I'm sold on Superman having a love-child.

Amokitty

Exactly.

Kirayoshi

Sounds way too OOC.

Kirayoshi

Plus, I never liked the Margot Kidder version of Lois, and that's essentially who Kate Beckinsale's playing.

MadR

Haven't seen Superman yet....liked the novelization

Amokitty

I liked Routh though. He's good.

Kirayoshi

Anyone else hope they kill off Lana in Smallville?

Amokitty

*laughs*

J_Harper

Lia.

Amokitty

I prefer Lois myself. Chloe too!

MadR

Candace Bergen's Murphy Brown is actually closer to Lois Lane than anyone whose actually played her. IMHO

Amokitty

In fact I always thought there was a little bit of Lois in Chloe.

Kirayoshi

My favorite theory is that Lois will die and Chloe will take on Lois's name when she becomes a reporter.

J_Harper

Here's a question - what do you think Kitty and Peter like to do for dates? Besides eating out?

Kirayoshi

I can see Peter showing Kitty Brighton Beach.

Amokitty

Kirayoshi. I LOVE that!

xakko

artsy stuff... both really enjoy it

MadR

I almost want to do a story where Kitty drags Piotr to a scifi con.

Kirayoshi

Oh God!

Darkstorm5000

Talk about a fish out of water!

Amokitty

Good question Jeremy. Go to amusement parks, art galleries, little theater..

Kirayoshi

Peter will just go, "seen it, seen it, seen it"

Kirayoshi

I definitely see them at Coney Island

Amokitty

Ah, but art lovers never tire of seeing them!

Kirayoshi

Or Navy Pier in Chicago.

xakko

i dunno, there was a scene where Kurt and Peter were discussing Star Wars in the early issues, before Kitty showed up

Kirayoshi

No, he'd say 'seen it' because he was on the actual planet!

Amokitty

Picnics in the country maybe.

xakko

they both love baseball

Kirayoshi

Kinda jaded.

Kirayoshi

Or maybe a revival house playing Casablanca!

J_Harper

Heh heh heh.

Kirayoshi

Greatest romantic movie of all time!

Amokitty

There's a lot for them to do. However Xak and were discussing what Kitty and Wisdom would do. It's hard picturing this.

Kirayoshi

Or would that be more a Kurt thing.

J_Harper

I actually had an idea for Kitty taking Deathless Peter to a ren faire.

Amokitty

I know Kitty worked in a bar. It don't mean she wants to socialize in one all the time!

Darkstorm5000

brb

Amokitty

Mark and I really enjoy Ren Faires. There's one next week!

J_Harper

King Richard's Faire is starting up aroudn here in a few weeks.

Amokitty

I love the costumes and jousting.

J_Harper

I just like the idea of Kitty and Peter freaking everyone out at the knife and axe throwing booth when they show off how good they are at it. :D

Kirayoshi

Would Peter and Kitty be football fans?

Kirayoshi

Or soccer?

Amokitty

lol.

xakko

i've been to one twice... it was fun. i should've fired the crossbow when i had a chance

xakko

soccer definitely, from Excalibur

MadR

Peter might be a hockey fan...

xakko

growing up on lake baikal, when it freezes... yeah, i can see that

Amokitty

I've bought some lovely jewelry at those. There are actual siversmiths at them.

Kirayoshi

I can see them debating the 80s Olympics.

J_Harper

snort.

Amokitty

Yep. Playing chess too.

xakko

i would love to see more gymnastics from Piotr... he was really agile in early stories

Kirayoshi

Kitty's been known to beat Professor X.

Amokitty

Can you see Wisdom taking Kitty dancing - which she loves? Doubtful.

xakko

Piotr isn't stupid, but he'd get his butt whooped in chess.

Kirayoshi

I got the impression he was fairly good at chess.

Amokitty

Doesn't mean he wouldn't enjoy it!

J_Harper

Not much else to do during winter nights in Siberia.

Kirayoshi

Didn't he play it on Brighton Beach during some of his earlier issues?

Amokitty

Russians are genetically programmed to be good at chess. heh.

xakko

Russian scrabble? i imagine the point scores would be incredible

Kirayoshi

I think I saw that on Eddie Izzard.

xakko

he did, K, and was shown in that New Mutants book beating the owner...

Amokitty

I posted an ish of New Mutants where he won a game of it.

J_Harper

Koschei played Nikolai at chess a lot. Part of his training. Nikolai tried to teach Danila, but Danila didn't have the temperment for it.

Amokitty

Yeah! :)

Kirayoshi

"You spell it THRU, and I'm behind you on that, because we spell it THROUGH, and that's just cheating in Scrabble."

Amokitty

You make me laugh, K.

Kirayoshi

I kind of mentioned something like that in "What You Are"

Kirayoshi

You gotta check out one of Izzard's concert vids.

Kirayoshi

He is a scream!

Amokitty

I think Kitty and Peter have much in common interest wise. I don't get people who don't see it.

Kirayoshi

"Hitler, invaded Poland, France, Austria, then World War II, the Russian Front, not a good idea...Hitler never played Risk as a kid...because you could never hold onto Central Asia!"

J_Harper

Peter is a deceptive character. And one, unfortunately, who hasn't gotten a lot of love or attention from his writers.

Amokitty

If they have nothing in common, then what on earth could Kitty and Wisdom possible find to do together??

xakko

mediocre sex, apparently?

Kirayoshi

He's sensitive, smart, compassionate, a core of emotional strength, and he's also built like a brick outhouse!

Kirayoshi

Peter, not Pete!

J_Harper

LOL! That's mean, xak...

Amokitty

After reading his blog, I officially think Paul Cornell's an ass.

J_Harper

Is that the writer on the Wisdom limited?

xakko

which makes him qualified to write Wisdom

J_Harper

Ah.

J_Harper

He's blogging about this as well as giving interviews?

Amokitty

Yep.

Kirayoshi

I actually liked "Father's Day", his episode of Doctor Who, so I'm prepared to give him the benefit of a doubt.

xakko

as well as e-mailing And the Sword is Drawn

Amokitty

I mean, don't get me wrong. I appreciate his stuff every Fri. night....

Kirayoshi

I just don't think anyone can breathe life into Pete, because without Kitty, he's really nothing special!

xakko

you have to admit, that incarnation of Dr. Who was pretty much a jerk with a heart of gold

Kirayoshi

Not so much a jerk, but a little arrogant, with a melencholy streak, being the last survivor of his race.

Amokitty

I pray this man nver gets to write Kitty or Peter. We'd be in big trouble.

Kirayoshi

Or, if he immerses himself in some quality Peter(the Claremont run), he'll come away with a changed perspective.

J_Harper

Peter is a lot more than he seems. I'm fond of my Spenser analogy, when it comes to Peter.

xakko

maybe- just maybe- Whedon's last issue will be a wedding special between Kitty and Piotr?

Kirayoshi

And as long as I'm dreaming, I'd like a pony.

Amokitty

LOL!!!!

J_Harper

God, don't mention that at CBRF. The last time it ws, there was nearly a riot...

MadR

Hee!

xakko

you don't want a pony. they make a big mess.

Kirayoshi

That was a line from an old "Calvin and Hobbes".

Amokitty

And that's one of the many reasons I love these chats. I laugh, and laugh, and laugh...

xakko

* noddles... i was quoting the bottom of the cube at Red Robin

Amokitty

MMMMMM.... burgers......

xakko

i miss that the bottom of the cube is on summer vacation.

Amokitty

Joss likes Kiotr. Ididn't think Kitty and Peter would make love so soon either. so there COULD be a wedding.

Kirayoshi

He likes Kiotr. He just doesn't believe in happy endings!

J_Harper

I'll admit, that surprised me, but then, twenty real years of tension....

Kirayoshi

witness Buffy/Angel, Willow/Oz, Willow/Tara, Angel/Cordy---

MadR

A kiotr wedding would be a great surprise...

Kirayoshi

I'd love to see one too.

Amokitty

I live in hope! I never that they would get together, and now look.

J_Harper

That's just as limiting as always having happy endings...

Amokitty

Thought, I meant to say..

Kirayoshi

Assuming that they both survive the final arc.

MadR

Wash/Zoe, yeah. JW doesn't believe in happy couples....

Kirayoshi

Joss does like to do the unexpected.

Kirayoshi

They were happy. Just not for long.

J_Harper

yet, oddly enough, I hear he's happily married....

Kirayoshi

He also writes religious themes, despite claiming openly to be athiest.

Amokitty

But people EXPECT Joss to kill them now. It's his trademark. If he loves these characters at all - he'll leave 'em be.

xakko

or he'll kill them both, but together and happy, to keep the next person from tearing it apart

J_Harper

Speaking of unhappy endings to relationships, does anyone here read Runaways?

Amokitty

I know, I know, he loved Anya too, and look what happened to her...

Kirayoshi

The 'never trust anyone over 18' book?

Amokitty

Same with Fred.

J_Harper

Yeah.

xakko

i get the digests, but i know the spoiler, jeremy

Kirayoshi

I still think Fred's alive in there somewhere, and if there had been a Season Six, we'd have had a psychic showdown between Fred and Illyria.

xakko

it may keep me from picking up the digest, that is so sad

Amokitty

I was starting to get into it, and then BKV killed Gert.

J_Harper

Okay. I don't want to spoil it for anyone.

J_Harper

Too late!

Kirayoshi

Maybe the two of them agreeing to share the body or something.

Amokitty

Whoops!

Kirayoshi

We all know, Jer.

MadR

I've heard that Kirayoshi....that Illyria was going to remake Fred for Wesley

J_Harper

I have so many stories in my head. I had one for a crossover with the Runaways meeting Kitty and Peter, involving Solovey Razboynik.

MadR

and it was going to be a Ben/Glory thing

J_Harper

Non Deathless...

Kirayoshi

Interesting...

xakko

well, just ignore the Free Comic Book Day story... gah, i hated that

Kirayoshi

You catch that X-Men/Runaways freebie during Free Comics Day?

J_Harper

I still haven't read it yet.

J_Harper

It's sitting on my bookcase. I read the threads on it.

Kirayoshi

Wasn't great, no.

Kirayoshi

Although at least BKV played fair with the X-Men and didn't have the Runaways trounce them because it was their book.

Kirayoshi

I actually liked that while everyone else was fighting, Kitty and Gert were just chatting.

Amokitty

I would very much like to see a more "gritty"style of story with Kitty and Peter. I want to something unususal for them. That's why I'm so interested in Rose's Kitty?Daniel darkfic. Even though there's no Peter.

J_Harper

Well, in the story I had in mind, Kitty and Peter prove to the Runaways that they need help against Solovey by thoroughly putting them down.

Amokitty

God, can't type.\

Kirayoshi

Or maybe a new chapter in that Kitty/Phantom crossover.

MadR

I really have to write that one.

xakko

tho' PAD pulled the same thing with Piotr in X-Factor... what's up with thaT?

Amokitty

I need to e-mail Gevaisa and see how she's doing. I know she wants to come to chat.

Kirayoshi

Anyone want to see Peter show up as Raul?

Amokitty

PLEASE do, rose!

Amokitty

Yes!! Oh god yes, K.

J_Harper

I know nothing of Phantom.

Kirayoshi

I have a new award for wierdest fanfic crossover.

Kirayoshi

"Is it Doom Yet?"

Amokitty

It's good, Jeremy. Dark, twisted, but very literate.

Kirayoshi

Doctor Doom chooses the new heir to the throne of Latveria--Daria Morgendorfer!

J_Harper

OMFG! Hah!

Amokitty

Holy crap.

MadR

bwa-hah=hah Great!

Darkstorm5000

That's pretty raw

Kirayoshi

There's a sequel called "Daria R" in which Daria hooks up with an adulf Franklin Richards.

Amokitty

Now that was inspired.

xakko

Rachel is soooo gonna kick her butt for that

Kirayoshi

The same writer did another Daria story in which everything's the same as the cartoon--except that Jane Lane's a guy.

J_Harper

First thing she does? Has the doombots nuke a small podunk town in Texas. In particular one rundown ranch house. :)

MadR

I have got to read this one.

Kirayoshi

Actually she's surprisingly mature in this one.

Kirayoshi

It's in fanfiction.net/cartoons/Daria.

J_Harper

Or do you think she'd waste her time?

Amokitty

Everything Daria does is for a good reason. she's sensible like that.

J_Harper

Lia is coming.

Amokitty

Wonderful!

Kirayoshi

Anyway, J, I have to second Amokitty's verdict on Gevasia's "Happy Phantom". Except that Peter comes across as a bit of a jerk(think post-secret wars), it's very well written, dealing with fantasy as well as period politics.

MadR

Hate to say it but I have to call it a night....

J_Harper

Ridding the world of Beavis and Butt-head would probably be a good thing.

Kirayoshi

One subplot involving the way the other ballet dancers start to mistreat Kitty when they learn she is Jewish, before Eric puts a stop to it.

Kirayoshi

Later, Mad?

J_Harper

Take it easy, Rose. :)

Amokitty

Peter really isn't in it much. Yet. I'm waiting for zsaji to die.

xakko

g'nite rose!

Amokitty

Aww, Rose!

xakko

see you next time!

J_Harper

I've read a bit of her Doom story. Minion. Interesting, but didn't do much for me.

Amokitty

Thank you for coming!

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Darkstorm5000

Goodnight, Rose

MadR

Nice typing to you all. Good nite!

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Amokitty

Good night!

Amokitty

Hi Lia!!

Kirayoshi

Aw, you miss Mad, Lia!

J_Harper

My sweetie! :)

xakko

hi Lia!

Lia

Hi guys! How are you all doing?

Amokitty

How are things, Lia?

Kirayoshi

Get a room, guys! ::rolleyes

J_Harper

Never! I'm not ashamed of my love. ;)

Amokitty

Better now that my husband's back from Reno. It was lonely!

Lia

Everything's good with me. Everything's always good when Jeremy's around.;)

Kirayoshi

Kidding!

J_Harper

:D

Amokitty

You two are so sweet!

Kirayoshi

Let me not to the marriage of true minds admit impedidments!

J_Harper

We try. :)

Kirayoshi

That was Shakespeare, BTW.

J_Harper

I figured. :)

Lia

Sorry I'm so late. I keep thinking today's Friday.

Kirayoshi

I work Tue-Sat myself.

Amokitty

It's wonderful for you to show up any ol' time Lia!

Amokitty

I used to work Saturdays. I don't miss it.

Kirayoshi

Yeah, take off your coat, help yourself to the Pin the Tail on Pete Wisdom game, relax!

J_Harper

I read Astonishing, sweetie. It was very good. And Runaways was very sad...

J_Harper

How happy did seeing Emma get stomped make you, love?

Kirayoshi

"Yeahbuwhat?"

Lia

Yeah, it made me cry. But Astonishing made up for it. I love seeing Emma bloody and beaten.

Amokitty

Heh.

J_Harper

Snirk.

Amokitty

I cheered. Oh yes I did.

Kirayoshi

I still say Joss cribbed from Read or Die!

xakko

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Amokitty

LOL!~

J_Harper

Well, I liked the reveal at the end. I know it's a forlorn hope, but hopefully that'll shut the people who say Peter has no reason to be back up.

Lia

I only wish they'd beat Emma up every issue. It looks like she'll be back on the team when this thing blows over.

J_Harper

Storm - Any day Frost is beat up is a good day.

Kirayoshi

Actually at CBRF, the general tone is, "Finally , a reason for Peter to exist!"

Amokitty

Still, she and Scott are on the outs. this makes me happy.

Kirayoshi

You should check out the "Women of Marvel" TPB.

J_Harper

Sigh. Do other resurrected characters get this sort of grief?

J_Harper

There?

J_Harper

I mean, is anyone saying boo about Betsy being back?

xakko

there aren't many Colossus fans on CBR... even some of the ones who call themselves fans i would question, since they seem to want him to just hit people and destroy stuff

Kirayoshi

includes UXM #150-151, another scene where Emma gets beaten up, by Storm(with a little help from Kitty).

Amokitty

Everybody's complaining that peter has had nothing to do. Well, neither has Hank, but you don't hear them complainig about THAT.

J_Harper

:) I remember that one.

Kirayoshi

So at least Kitty is represented in the tpb.

xakko

yeah, but Hank wasn't ressurrected recently

Lia

How do you think Peter destroys Breakworld? I doubt it's by just punching stuff.

Amokitty

Yes, I've noticed that, Xak. It's action, action, and can we please have some more action?

J_Harper

One of the things about RPGnet is that it's very pro Peter and Kitty. The thread I put up about Astonishing 14 was greeted very positively.

Kirayoshi

Haven't been there lately.

J_Harper

It makes me curious, too.

J_Harper

I wonder how he does it.

J_Harper

My favorite haunt.

Amokitty

If we know our Joss, and I think we do, it's going to be sneaky. Breakworld will go down in a shoking way.

Kirayoshi

I think it's indirect,.

Amokitty

Forgive the spelling, please!

Kirayoshi

By 'breaking' Breakworld, maybe it means changing the society somehow.

J_Harper

Could be, but I thought the timeshadows show it being totally destroyed.

Kirayoshi

Precognition is a tricky thing.

Lia

Probably something ironic too. Maybe the cure to Legacy is fatal to the aliens or something.

Amokitty

It won't be the same, but that doesn't mean they're gonna go out the the D'Bari.

Kirayoshi

Lots of 'prophets' either real or fake, tend to speak in allegory.

J_Harper

I like that idea, Lia. :)

J_Harper

True.

Amokitty

Lia, I heard a theory like that just a couple of days ago, and I agree. That has some real possibilities.

Kirayoshi

So we don't know what the 'timeshadows' really saw, we only have Brand's account. Second or third hand.

Kirayoshi

War of the Worlds, right?

J_Harper

Brand is not a reliable source of info, either.

Amokitty

Why is Ord the best they've got?

Lia

I think he won in the Gladiator arena, and I assumed that's how they picked the best.

J_Harper

I wouldn't put Ord down too hard. he's pretty formidable.

Kirayoshi

Supposedly Ord won some gladiatorial game to become his planet's champion right?

J_Harper

So it seems.

Kirayoshi

Plus he's now working with Danger.

Kirayoshi

AKA Ultron 2.0

Amokitty

But he seems to lack wit. I can only assume that's why Danger is now helping him.

Kirayoshi

Great, they're Drakken and Shego!

Amokitty

I'm not liking Danger in this, btw.

xakko

brand did call him the stupidest alien ever or soemthing like that

J_Harper

Well, if he's from a martial society, he probably thinks in straight lines.

Lia

Hee hee!

Kirayoshi

J told me you were a fan of KP, Lia.

J_Harper

It doesn't mean he's stupid. It means he's unsubtle. Him getting chosen is probably a flaw in Breakword society.

Lia

Best Disney channel show since Gargoyles!

J_Harper

They may be too martial for their own good.

Kirayoshi

You'll like my new KP fanfic, Lia.

Amokitty

It's weird. but I seiously wondered if those two would join forces as soon as I saw the Astonishing X-Men Saga reprint in Jan. they were both on the cover. And then I thought, nah....

Kirayoshi

Kim wants to help Ron conquer his fears, but may end up doing more harm than good.

Lia

That sounds good, Kirayoshi. What's it about?

Lia

Nevermind.

Kirayoshi

Sorry.

Kirayoshi

Set post StD.

Kirayoshi

For some reason, I want to have Kim say to Ron, "So, is that a naked mole rat in your pocket or are you happy to see me?"

Lia

That sounds like a great story. I'll have to check it out. I love Ron and his fears. Especially the one about monkeys.

Amokitty

I agree jeremy. Especially since Joss is writing this. It's not obvious the way their society is set up.

Lia

LOL! That's great!

Kirayoshi

You wanna have fun, Lia? Go to deviantart.com and search for 'Kim Ron'

Kirayoshi

There's a slew of cool pics there.

Kirayoshi

One guy's doing a series of pics casting Kim and Ron in other Disney movies.

J_Harper

Oh, honey. I remembered what Beastie Boy song that mind number Furgie put out reminded me of. What You Want.

Lia

Maybe Peter beats Ord in the Gladiator arena and becomes leader which gives him the power to change their society, and break Breakworld like Kirayoshi said earlier.

Kirayoshi

My favorite is one called "101 Molerates".

Kirayoshi

Molerats!

Lia

Thanks for the link!

J_Harper

:) That's possible. I also approve of it 'cause it's very Conan-ish.

Kirayoshi

Remember to register, or you won't be able toe check out the 'adult' content.

Kirayoshi

Also the home of Bleedman's PPG comic!

Amokitty

I missed seeing Peter this issue, but Loved Kitty finding him, yelling his name and holding him. I melted.

Lia

Is the Molerat one adult in content? And if it is, should I be afraid?;)

J_Harper

LOl!

Kirayoshi

Not really.

Kirayoshi

It's a sendup of 101 Dalmations.

xakko

the relief when she found he was still breathing was great

J_Harper

That was a nice scene, even if Peter was bloody and beaten.

Kirayoshi

No hardcore stuff in this, although some slash.

Amokitty

Is it really Blindfold that's the mole? I don't think so myself.

Kirayoshi

Seems to be the theory, but not quite set in stone.

J_Harper

I liked the idea of Lockheed being an unwitting mole.

Amokitty

I smell a red herring, myself.

Amokitty

That's great. But I'd be sad if it were true.

Lia

Awww, 101 Molerats is adorable! Plus I love 101 Dalmations. And the art is excellent.

Amokitty

"Hiding?" "From You?!" Loved it.

Kirayoshi

He did another cute shot, with Kim and Ron based on the final scene from Spider-Man 2/

Kirayoshi

Plus one of the upside-down kiss from the first Spider-Man movie, with Ron as the Fearless Ferret!

xakko

i need to sleep... have to leave for my fantasy draft in 8 hours... g'nite everyone! had a blast as usual! thanks shari!

Amokitty

Will Peter be thought of like Jean if Breakworld DOES bite the big one?

J_Harper

Take care, Xakko. Have a good night.

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Amokitty

Oh Xak!

Amokitty

Darn!

Kirayoshi

Later, Xak.

Amokitty

Missed him.

Kirayoshi

And I should be packing it in too.

J_Harper

That's interesting to think.

J_Harper

Okay, take it easy, K. Have fun.

Kirayoshi

Peace out!

Amokitty

It was good of you to come K.

Kirayoshi

CYa!

Amokitty

Bye!

Lia

Have a good night, Kirayoshi. Thanks for the link!

Kirayoshi

Later, peeps!

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Amokitty

Would anyone like to share any upcoming ideas for plots or finales, or plot bunnies?

J_Harper

Well, I mentioned the Deathless sequel running around in my head...

J_Harper

Though I really don't want to get too deep into that right now, not til I finished Deathless.

Amokitty

But it was just one sentence, Jeremy. Give us more! Please?

J_Harper

That's the trick. I don't want to spoil deathless too much.

Lia

Please doesn't work with him. It's best to threaten him with violence.

J_Harper

LOL!

Lia

Tell her more or I'll kick you!

J_Harper

My sweetie is tough.

Amokitty

Can't blame for trying!

Amokitty

I love you Lia. Really I do. :D

Lia

:)

J_Harper

Well, the sequel involves a new villain, Tugarin Zmeivitch, the legacy of Koschei, and Seth.

Amokitty

Maybe not more than Jeremy of course, but I do!!!

Amokitty

Seth?

Lia

Hee hee. :)

J_Harper

Yeah, the Neo from X-Men 100.

Lia

Boo Seth. I hate him.

Amokitty

Of course. Sorry. Where's my brain??

J_Harper

It's late. :) And love, you're really going to hate Zmeivitch, if I ever get to writing him.

Amokitty

Lia, Jeremy mentioned that you were feeling burnout. I hope it won't discourage you fromk coming to the chats.

Lia

Will I hate him more than I hate Emma?

J_Harper

I don't know if that's possible... But you'll probably hate him as much you hate Koschei. Maybe more.

Lia

No, I still love the chats. I just feel a little bad that I've been doing nothing with my writing. I have the idea in my head, I'm just lazy and suffering from bad writer's block to put the words down.

Amokitty

Wow. And I hate Koschei's guts. This is going to good. I can hardly wait. But that means Deathless will end.

Amokitty

I think Oldprydefan feels the same way.

J_Harper

It's weird. I've worked on it for over two years now, but it's almost over. It's been very good to me, for a variety of reasons. Lia being the biggest of those. :)

Lia

I still think Deathless should end with a subplot involving Emma, a banana peel, and a speeding bus.

J_Harper

LOL!

Amokitty

I agree, Lia. No one would see it coming!

J_Harper

I think OldPrydeFan is burnt out because she RPGs too much. No time for writing.

J_Harper

Or, at least, story writing.

Amokitty

Her AU plot right now is tremendous in scope. and fantastic.

J_Harper

At her Excalibur RP site?

Lia

Yeah, I really wish she would finish Papers Flowers. It's amazing.

Amokitty

Lia, your story WANTS to be told, but good things come to those whjo wait you know.

J_Harper

I've also been getting an urge to write another chapter to Swords of Maharz - I've been rereading John Carter.

Amokitty

yes, Jeremy. At least in her AU Kitty and Peter finally get together. As rulers of Limbo.

J_Harper

I can't imagine what you're going through with that story right now, love.

Amokitty

All right, Jeremy! I'm glad you haven't forgotten it.

J_Harper

I've been blocked on stories before, but this one sounds so extreme.

J_Harper

Huh!

Lia

I want to finish the story. But my brain is misbehaving. It just wants to watch tv and turn to mush.

J_Harper

Bad brain! no biscuit!

J_Harper

What else... I would like to do that Evo/Animated Teen Titans cross over.

Lia

Don't be mean to my brain! You'll make it sad.

J_Harper

Sorry brain... ;)

Amokitty

I write stories for myself, and I kinda know what you mean. RL has made me not want to think about plots lately. I have confidence that you'll get back to it though, Lia.

Lia

Monsieur Malla would never be mean to his Brain....

J_Harper

LOL! OMG!

Amokitty

Evo- titans?

Amokitty

Okay now that's sick. Mallah and the Brain, that is...

Amokitty

:D

Darkstorm5000

I think I'm going to turn in now. It's been fun, and great to be around so many creative and insightful people, it's an inspiration!

J_Harper

Yeah. First plot would be Peter and Kitty going to the Titans-verse. They join the Titans, and end up fighting an alliance between Trigon and Belasco.

Lia

It is sick. But it makes me laugh.

J_Harper

Take it easy, Darkstorm!

J_Harper

I remember your reaction to that when I told you of it, Lia. :)

Lia

Goodnight, Darkstorm! Take care!

Amokitty

Darkstorm, dear I owe you a review. Thank you for coming!

Darkstorm5000

No problem, Good night...

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Amokitty

Night1

J_Harper

The sequel would involve the Titans going to the Evo-verse to stop Brother Blood and the Hive from trying to conquer it, and recruiting the X-Men for help.

Amokitty

Trigon and Belasco would be incredible.

Amokitty

I want to read this!

Lia

Yeah, I've been waiting forever for him to write this! I know it'll be great.

J_Harper

Yeah. The idea is that Belasco will help facilitate Trigon's freedom, in return for Trigon setting his masters free in the Evo-verse. The keys to this are Raven and Kitty, who Belasco manages to warp to the Titan-verse. But, unfortunately for him, Peter goes along for the ride.

Amokitty

Wow. Would Illyana show up? I always thought that Illyana and Raven would have a lot in common.

J_Harper

Other touch points - Kitty and Starfire become great friends, Kitty finds Lockheed on the quest to fomd Starfire when she leaves the Titans, Raven develops a crush on Peter, and Peter and Kitty fall in love.

Amokitty

Would Kory's sister Blackfire show up?

Lia

I like the last part the best!

J_Harper

Not in this one, I'm afraid. I have Illyana as a child here. Though in the second story, the Titans, in order to free Peter from his bondage to Magneto, track down where Illyana is stashed. They end up having to fight Magneto.

J_Harper

I was thinking about that. I'm not sure. I like that last part too, sweetie.

J_Harper

:)

Amokitty

Me too! I still can't believe sometimes that Kitty and Peter are back together. I've waited so long and now the wait's over. Still doesn't feel real yet.

J_Harper

It's nice, isn't it. :)

J_Harper

I also had an idea for a rather dark main-verse fic.

Amokitty

I wish Joss would delve deeper into peter's thoughts. Guess we'll see that later though now that we know he'll destroy Breakworld.

Lia

I know what you mean. It kinda feels like I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop with them. Joss doesn't have a good track records when it comes to his characters love lives.

Amokitty

Please share!

Amokitty

I know Lia. I'm afraid to let myself be completely happy about this, just because of that very thing.

J_Harper

Well, it's a little hard to explain. But, Peter is out in New York or somewhere else doing some shopping, when he runs into a woman who looks extraordinarily like Zsaji. She approaches him, almost predatorally, and when she touches him on the arm, a blast of euphoria shoots through him. Shock and horrified at this, he flees.

Amokitty

That's the very reason I'm so in love with your new story, Lia. You get to the heart of Kitty and Peter, and show what's been lacking for so long. They NEED conversation!

J_Harper

He wants to investigate this, find out what the devil is going on, but doesn't want to tell Kitty. he finally turns to Kurt for help.

Lia

I just hope that the big plot twist this time is that they do get a happily ever after under Joss' pen. I think he might try to do something to make the coupling stick, like have then get engaged or have Kitty be pregnant, though I'm not sure how I would feel about that. I'm okay with them going off to character limbo if it means they stay together.

Amokitty

Is Peter afraid? Does he remember what the feelings provoked before, Jeremy?

J_Harper

During the course of the story, we discover that Zsaji is from a race of vampiric beings who use euphoria to drain their victims. Zsaji happened to be a crippled one, one with amnesia, and not fully cognisant of her powers.

J_Harper

From fear, and shame. He knows that he loves Kitty with all his heart, and they are good for her. He has an adult's grasp on his love now. The feeling this being produces in him, making him almost forget Kitty, is what frightens him.

Amokitty

I mentioned earlier that no matter what, Kitty and Peter are iconic now, I think. Just Scott/Jean, and Rogue/Remy. Whatever happens, I think there will ALWAYS be something between them.

J_Harper

Zsaji unwittingly put her mark on Peter, which indicates to others of her kind that he is particularly desirable. This other Zsaji wants him, and recruits help to get her for herself.

Amokitty

Oh goodness. that story sounds gut wrenching! I would love to read this. Wow.

Lia

I think you're right. People can't just claim it as some childhood crush anymore.

J_Harper

So many stories, so little time. I feel almost guilty for sharing these plot threads, 'cause I don't know if I'll ever get to them. :/

Amokitty

Will Kitty find out about this, and help Peter?

J_Harper

I believe so. It's dark, but I don't want it to end darkly.

J_Harper

I think it's here to stay, too, love. A whole lot of other authors have used their relationship as a touchstone. It's an integral part of them, in a way that Rogue and Remy can't match.

J_Harper

Peter and Kitty will always orbit around each other in some way.

Amokitty

Their history can't be ignored, Lia. I think they've hit super couple status, even though a lot of people don't like that. There are too many mediums other than comics where they're together.

Lia

Yeah, they could definitely become the next Scott and Jean. Hopefully without the skanky blonde breaking them up ten years down the line.

J_Harper

I'm sorta glad I'm staying away from CBRF now. :/

J_Harper

Hee hee...

J_Harper

Has Lia mentioned to you she doesn't like Emma? ;)

J_Harper

They all ready had their skanky blond, so they should be safe from that for a while.

Amokitty

I fear something like that will happen though. Some idiot author will have peter cheat on Kitty again, just as Scott has cheated..... *sigh*

Amokitty

Oh god, I can't Stand Emma.

Lia

Hee hee. We were at the pet store today and a ten year old boy was playing with an ugly french bulldog mix and he told me he named it Emma. I thought it was an appropriate name for a dog.

J_Harper

Oh, that's perfect!

Amokitty

Bitch! heh, heh.

Amokitty

I don't get the Emma fans. what is it about her that's to admire? I'm stumped.

Lia

Yeah, my hatred for her runs almost as deep as my love for Kitty and Peter.

J_Harper

I just want to know why all their good villains turn into good guys... I think maybe that's why I prefer original villains in my fan fics. Is that a bad thing, I wonder?

Amokitty

I wish she didn't have as prominent a part in astonishing. I'd much rather read more Beast.

J_Harper

I mean, asides from my Evo story, I don't have one plot that doesn't use an original villain...

Lia

I don't get it either. People like her because she's opinionated and speaks her mind, but she really doesn't. She just uses snark and bitchiness to hide behind because she's too scared of letting anyone get to know the real her.

J_Harper

Well, hopefully Xakko is right about her being on the outs with Scott after this.

Amokitty

Jeremy, that's why I want to drop some X-titles. Mystique and Sabertooth on the team? Ugh.

Amokitty

Scott called her what she is - a sick bitch. yeah, those two are in trouble.

Amokitty

And I couldn't be happier!!

J_Harper

I have so many villains in my head, besides the Russian gang. Very good ones, too, IMHO. They really could use a revitalization of their Rogues gallery. That's one of the reasons why I liked Whedon's run. Besides the Hellfire Club, he hasn't been using the usual suspects.

J_Harper

Probably the same reason why they like Wisdom - snark and cynicism is flashy and impresses easily.

Amokitty

True. At least Joss is trying to do something original.

Amokitty

I'm going to miss him something fierce.

J_Harper

Maybe he'll stick around for another 12. Has he said that he's not re-signing?

Lia

Yeah, I hope the book ends up in good hands. Preferably not Millar's.

Amokitty

What would it take to make the man stay? Yeah, he and Cassaday have said that this is it.

J_Harper

Nuts... OH well...

Amokitty

Brit writers and fans naturally gravitate towards Wisdom. So please, no British writers!

Amokitty

Xak mentioned about Busiek liking Peter. I did not know this.

J_Harper

I hate to do this, ladies, but I'm starting to fade. I think it's time for me to go.

Amokitty

Goodness. It's 3 am for you, isn't it?

Lia

I think Wisdom's out of the picture when it comes to Kitty. He's in a Max book now, and they don't want to drag the sweetheart of the X-Men into that subject matter.

J_Harper

Yeah, I'm afraid so. Any other night, Lia would have shooed me to bed long ago. ;)

Amokitty

Read Paul Cornell's blog, Lia. Oh yes he does!

J_Harper

She's good for me. :)

Amokitty

Thanks for letting him stay up Lia!

Lia

You have my permission to stay up late tonight, sweetie.;)

Amokitty

Yeah, that!

J_Harper

Well, there's a big gulf between what he wants to do and what the editors will let him do.

J_Harper

Thanks, love. :)

Lia

Everyonce in awhile I do something nice besides threatening violence.;)

J_Harper

Hee hee. Actually, a whole lot of the time. :) Almost all the time.

Amokitty

Thank you for coming, Jeremy. I appreciate the spoilers for your projects.

Lia

Actually though, I have to get to bed too. I have to be up early for the wedding tomorrow.

J_Harper

NP. This is fun, as always.

J_Harper

Oh dang, that's right.

Amokitty

Wedding are wonderful. have fun, Lia.

J_Harper

Have a good time there, sweetie. I'll talk to you later. Love you.

J_Harper

Have a good night Amokitty. Til next time!

Lia

Yeah, so I won't get to talk to you tomorrow sweetie. But I'll have cake to make up for it!;)

J_Harper

Cake is good. :)

Amokitty

Thank you both, from the bottom of my heart. These chats wouldn't be the same without you1

J_Harper

Any time. G' night! :)

Lia

Thanks for having us!

Amokitty

Good night, jeremy!

Lia

Night, sweetheart. Love you bunches!

J_Harper

Love you, too!

Amokitty

Any time you like, Lia!

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Amokitty

You have a LOT of admirers out there Lia. I hope you know that.

Lia

It's so nice of you to host these, Amokitty. Thank you so much for having me. Next time I'll try to be on time.

Amokitty

I'm just so glad that can come at all. I know RL gets hectic.

Amokitty

You're such a sweetheart...

Lia

Oh, thanks! So do you! I know a lot of people really appreciate having this site.

Amokitty

Really? I don't get much feedback, so I wonder about that.

Lia

I think people who don't come to the chats are probably shy. But it's so nice to go to the gallery and read the old issues. I never read the Rom issue until you posted it, and it was so cute to see one of the first Kiotr moments.

Amokitty

If you have any requests for stuff, don't hesitate to mention it. I'm not getting any response in that dept. I may let it go and try something else.

Lia

I think I have most of the Kiotr issues already. I've been searching for them for awhile, but the Rom one was one I never heard about. But when I first started getting really into Kiotr I researched a lot online, and there wasn't very much information out there. I would have loved to have found something like this back then. I bet your site has helped convert a lot of people into Kiotr shippers.

Amokitty

I hope you're right. I think there's a lot to like and admire about this fandom. Converts to the cause is certainly a worthwhile goal!

Lia

The more fans, the more likely Kitty and Peter will stay together in tthe comics!

Lia

Anyway, I was a lot of fun talking with everyone tonight. Thanks so much for inviting me. Hopefully it'll help kickstart my brain into writing again and I'll actually have some stories to send you.

Amokitty

If you should add any more material to your new story, please think of me. I'd love to see it. Your work is moving. And your version of Peter is sexy, tender, clever, and kind. Everything Kitty (or any woman) could want!

Amokitty

We were thinking the same thing just now weren't we, lol.

Lia

Thank you so much. You're so sweet!

Amokitty

I'd love to read anything you send!

Amokitty

Dance and make merry at the wedding tomorrow!

Lia

Oh, I'm much more interested in the cake than the dancing! And I'll send you you my story as soon as I add more to it.

Amokitty

don't forget to catch that bouquet! ::wink

Lia

I'll fight for it; tooth and nail!

Amokitty

Good! *laughs* Thanks again, Lia.

Lia

Take care, and have a good night!

Amokitty

Good night!

Lia

Night!:)

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Amokitty

What exceptionally kind, cool, talented people. This wraps another chat, and I'm grateful for the participation from everyone. Thanks also to Erebus, LoneRaven, and Leafee LeBeau for joining us. Hope to see you all next time! ::cool 'Til next month folks. Good night!

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