Transcript for KIOTR Chat  -  August 24th, 2007
Topic: Astonishing X-Men #22, & X-Men #202

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xakko

hey there!

amokitty

LOL! You beat me, Xak!

amokitty

I'll look silly writing an introduction now.... :D

xakko

I got on around 10, but I've been throwing up a new snippet to the crossover fic on kiotr journal

xakko

(oh, go ahead, you can put it in front, i won't mind)

amokitty

 hahaha! You tickle sometimes.... I'm sure no one will miss an inconsequential intro. :)

amokitty

Tickle ME, I should say....

xakko

well, it sets the stage for the log...

amokitty

So tell me more about your new project!

xakko

tickle-me-Amo?

xakko

Mark will want one for Christmas!

amokitty

LMAO. I'm really giggling here...

xakko

I've just been reading too much Harry Potter fanfic. I didn't realize how much the end of the series left a hole. Or maybe it's Frodo's sig

amokitty

This is a real problem I'm having lately with a lot books and movies. The plot holes are getting HUGE. Rowling and Whedon both aren't above it.

xakko

not by any stretch of the imagination

xakko

so, how old do you think Harry, Hermione and Ron were during their NEX appearance?

amokitty

I don't have an idea. The art on that book never thrilled me anyway! But it was cute of CC to have them there.

xakko

well, that's the genesis of my idea, except that somehow Rowling was a mutant who'd received a psychic premonition of this world, except possibly from another dimension...

amokitty

Similar to the Pirate Kitty situation with Kitty?

xakko

quite. and that's already canon, so why not?

amokitty

Works for me!

amokitty

You gonna write it????

xakko

so long as it keeps me occupied. i'm going to try to concentrate on the challenges, and then really get back to BoM

xakko

and i've got several choices that I don't know where to go with it

xakko

like - have the X-men join with the Order while the kids attend Hogwarts, or have Yana cast a de-aging spell

amokitty

The similarities with Xaviers and Hogwarts would make this VERY popular with both fandoms. I'm very interested in this. It would be cool to see your take on a different theme (other than X-Men that is).

xakko

the kicker is that the movies and books are out in the Muggle world, but that's a bit troubling since too many Muggleborn that would notice

xakko

so i'll probably have to have Illyana transport them dimensionally

xakko

possibly with help of a Danger Room thingy

xakko

a lot of details need to be worked out

amokitty

Having Illyana be the catalyst would make everything possible though. I would love this! I wanna see your take on the Hogwarts kids! Have you ever dabbled in Fantasy before?

amokitty

As in a non super hero subject.

xakko

not since high school

amokitty

Don't suppose you'd also do the art - like you've done with Book of Magik, would you??

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xakko

dunno, i don't know if I can draw the HPverse. I was going to try - I started doing sketches for all my entries for the LWW contest

xakko

hey Jeremy

amokitty

Evening Jeemy!!!! :D

J_Harper

Hey there.

amokitty

Jeremy...!! Can't type... ever!

J_Harper

Heh.

J_Harper

How are the two of you.

xakko

doin' all right. yourself?

J_Harper

I'm okay, I guess. A little bit cranky, though.

amokitty

I'm okay.... my father in law went to the hospital today for a scare but has been released. Hectic day.

J_Harper

Yow....

amokitty

What can we do to make you feel better? We demand to know!

xakko

GAH, shari, that's not good. hope he's ok

amokitty

Mark is coming home from the hospital soon, and then I'll get more details.

J_Harper

Heh. Not much, I fear. I'm just tired, and everyone at work is in a bad mood, and I haven't been able to talk to Lia since last Friday 'cause she's switched shifts with a friend at work, and just a whole bunch of other niggling things.

J_Harper

I can't stay too long 'cause I have to work tomorrow. :/ We used to be closed Saturdays. I liked having Saturdays off.

xakko

that sucks, JH...

J_Harper

It's life.

amokitty

You haven't talked with Lia in a week? That sucks something awful. I'd be in a foul mood too, if I were you. :(

amokitty

We can concentrate on the Kiotr scene from Astonishing as a pick me up, though!

amokitty

Whoof. ;)

J_Harper

Yeah. Not much fun. I don't know if she's going to show. I meant to text her about the chat, but I forgot. Plus I don't think her new phone is getting my texts anyway. I'll have to ask her next time I talk to her.

xakko

we have a dishwasher being delivered between 7:45 and 9:45, but i don't have to be awake for that.

xakko

whoof indeed.

J_Harper

Heh. It was cute. Though I really felt a bit disappointed with the issue as a whole. Maybe if the book came out, oh, I don't know - more often than quarterly....

xakko

true, that

amokitty

It's been 3 months and 3 weeks. Insane.

J_Harper

When I went to the comic book store, Astonishing and Captain America are the only Marvel titles I get anymore.

J_Harper

And I don't know if I'll be sticking around for Ellis' run.

xakko

blame where it's due... and it's all on Joey Q

amokitty

I'm not particularly interested in Ellis' run myself. He'll never do Peter justice. Hell, WHEDON isn't doing him justice! He had like what, three lines this issue, and one of them was about a chick named after a duck. Nice.

xakko

my reading is all dependent on who dies in Astonishing.

amokitty

Ditto.

xakko

but then, Ellis with Kitty and Peter isn't exactly a morale boosting thought

J_Harper

Just the fact that someone is going to die - I don't care who - turns me off. Is Blindfold dead, by the bye?

xakko

no... just a psych out

J_Harper

OPF seems to be a bit more sanguine about Ellis.

J_Harper

Okay, that's good. Not that I'm a Blindfold fan, but all this death in both the major players is really getting to me.

amokitty

Blindfold lives, but the explanation for it is confusing... The scans of the issue are my LJ. You can read it there.

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amokitty

Hiya Deb!!!

deb

hi

xakko

true... I think she's on his board and may correspond with him? or at least people close to him

xakko

hi there, sweetie!

J_Harper

Not too interested. Tired of seeing Peter and Kitty getting punked.

J_Harper

Hey there.

deb

:-)

xakko

Exodus should truly punk any of the X-men alive (except maybe Rachel going all out)

J_Harper

I really hope if Peter goes up against the Powerlord he beats the hell out of him decisively - not a Rocky or Hulk Hogan comeback or someone else, even Kitty, saves his bacon.

amokitty

I agree with you Jeremy. All these deaths are affecting my enjoyment of the books. It's overkill, no pun intended at all.

xakko

Carey's racked up quite the hitlist in this arc

J_Harper

Exodus is a lousy artifact of the 90's. I don't like having guys that powerful, even if they're villains.

J_Harper

Same thing bugged me when Magneto was given the ability to paralyse someone just by grabbing the iron in their blood. Way, way too powerful. Villains should be strong, but having them that pumped? No.

amokitty

I like Exodus, but they should've concentrated on his character rather than his powers. There is a great potential for some backstory development.

amokitty

If you ask me, the New X-Men kids are way too pumped by FAR. Man, I'm sick of those mouthy kids!

J_Harper

You guys and Lia keep telling me they're pretty bad.

J_Harper

It's bad writing when you have to punk established characters to build up your own.

amokitty

The kids have been in the spotlight almost continually lately, and I can't get away from them because they're always paired with K&P! No matter what flipping book it is!

xakko

it wouldn't be so bad if not for the overpowering of the students.

xakko

i *like* that Kitty and Piotr would feel obliged to look after the X-babies.

amokitty

If they were treated like students they are instead of actual X-Men, I could stomach them a lot easier.

J_Harper

Take heart that when their run is over, no one is probably going to pay any attention to it.

xakko

I really wasn't blown away by Nunzio and Christina, but I liked their characterization. Many of the stories were on the boring side, tho'

amokitty

Santo has pointed out several times how lousy they are at looking after them. Kitty and Peter are being written as worthless, and I hate it. Like they're brainless or something. And this is coming from Santo of all people....

amokitty

It worries me to no end that Yost is writing the Colossus: Mythos book. No doubt Peter will look redundant there too, just as he was in Bloodline.

J_Harper

:(

amokitty

God knows, Illyana seemed almost redundant in New X-Men. Pixie can do practically everything now, lol.

xakko

I'll buy it - Yost claims Peter's his favorite. I'll give him that chance, away from the New X-men kids

amokitty

And Belasco is in LOVE with her!!! Stupid. Incredibly stupid. Claremont probably had a heart attack when he learned of it.

J_Harper

It can be retconned. It was a mind fuck by either Belasco or some other power of Hell. They wanted Pixie to get a soul knife, since they can use it as a conduit for their own purposes.

amokitty

Soul knife..... LOL. More stupid. :D

xakko

it's more a trowel

amokitty

Can't anybody come up with something original? Carey is even re-hashing Destiny's Diaries. Lord, I hate Adjectiveless #202 with a passion. Poor Kitty.

J_Harper

You know, in a Walter Mitty moment, I came up with some commandents that I'd enforce if I ever became Marvel EIC.

amokitty

Please share them!!!! Please, please!

xakko

I don't mind that - I love when open danglers are dealt with. But it looks like Carey's just bringing them up to put them all away

J_Harper

One was THOU SHALL NOT KILL!

amokitty

Yay!

J_Harper

At least not gratuiotously.

J_Harper

Another was THOU SHALT NOT RETCON!

amokitty

Amen.

J_Harper

Another was THOU SHALT NOT REVISIT OLD STORIES LINES OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

xakko

Magneto retconned into a Holocaust survivor was amazing tho'

J_Harper

STORY

amokitty

Yes, let them retire with dignity. :)

xakko

well, there goes all of Morrison's acclaimed run :)

J_Harper

Admittedly, I'm sounding very draconian about this, but people don't use these things effectively anymore. They just use them for effect. It feels like for the past twenty years Marvel writers have been cannibalizing the first 20, 25 years of Marvel history over and over again.

J_Harper

I don't know much about Morrison's run. What did he retcon?

amokitty

Agreed. I admit though, that Carey tried to do something original with his "Children" arc, but it bored me to tears. Whedon's work had excitement written all over it, but I'm wondering now if he just got tired. Lots of holes in this month's Astonishing. We never got to see how Kitty and Peter met up with the others.

amokitty

Morrison tried to undo all of Claremont's character building with Magneto for starters.

xakko

Xavier had a twin sister who was evil, Scott and Jean never had more than puppy love...

J_Harper

I'll give Whedon this - he's tried to be original. He introduced two new characters and a whole new alien race into the X-Men verse.

J_Harper

Oh, that's even worse than saying Peter and Kitty was just a crush. He really implied that?

xakko

he pretty much out and out said it in his interview, and all the Morrison freaks accept it as gospel

J_Harper

Bullshit.

amokitty

He did. So he could attempt legitimizing Scott and Emma's affair.

J_Harper

You know, there are people who go on to marry their highschool or childhood sweethearts and live with them happily for the rest of their lives. It's not a myth. I know of at least one semi-famous couple who met when they were kids.

xakko

Morrison didn't realize Scott had grown up from the shy, insecure boy he'd been in the earliest issues

amokitty

Just like with Ellis, Morrison didn't do his character research. Scott and Jean have such a long history together, but this was dismissed in much the same way Kitty and Peter's was. All in the name of providing something "fresh". Ellis has said recently that he'll do something similar.

J_Harper

?

amokitty

Mainly that we should expect shocking things that will change the X-Universe. Because that's what Marvel is paying him for. Something "dynamic". Useless shock value anyone? If it's too controversial, they'll just undo it like with Morison.

xakko

i think one of the biggest things that Morrison - and Ellis - never want to think about in their drive to keep it real is the established idea of soul-mates.

xakko

(at least in comic canon)

J_Harper

Not 'realistic' I guess.

J_Harper

Hell with this. Enough negativity. Let's talk about positive things.

amokitty

But fandom loves the idea of heroes and their sould mates. You'd think the Clark Kent/Lois Lane fanbase would've given them a clue after all these years.

xakko

or Peter/MJ... unless, of course, you're Joey Q

amokitty

I love the soul mates idea, because I know it CAN happen. In real life, no less! No wonder I want to read about it!

J_Harper

That is going to blow up in their faces. The thing they're forgetting is that Peter has been married to MJ for almost half of his existance now. A whole generation of comic book fans grew up with that as the status quo.

J_Harper

They talk about how Peter being married limits the stories that can be told about him. Someone at RPG.Net brought up a good point - every established trait a hero has limits the sort of stories that can be told about that character.

xakko

:rollseyes at Marvel editors

amokitty

Being a happily married man who works at preserving his marriage only reinforces the Hero aspect of Spidey. They should keep them together.

J_Harper

Wish I knew where that thread was. I'd send you guys a link to it.

amokitty

Sounds like we're all in agreement about Peter and MJ staying together though. If only someone would listen to us...! sigh..... :D

J_Harper

Like they'd listen to us. We're fanboys and girls. Our opinions don't matter. So we should shut up and fork over our money.

J_Harper

Nuts to it. How's your writing going, Xakko?

xakko

apparently. this, btw, is not very cheerful

xakko

i've been wasting any creative energy on the LWW contest and getting nowhere... you?

J_Harper

I must admit, we fans like to bitch...

amokitty

Several people have mentioned that Kitty and Peter's conversation in Astonishing sounded like marriage. I didn't see it at all. Did any of you?

J_Harper

Well, you know what I've been producing. :)

J_Harper

No, I didn't see it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it led to it. I'm hoping.

xakko

* smiles at JH.

amokitty

And what a promising start it is! Woo-hoo! I'm gonna love to hate Sharyala!

J_Harper

Hopefully I'll be starting chapter 2 soon. Maybe next week. That one will be longer and meater than the first one.

J_Harper

I've also been working on my non FF project. still have a long way to go with that.

amokitty

Thank god. Because who knows when the next issue of Astonishing will come out? We need your stories!!

J_Harper

And I have to start writing a RPG scenario for Lia when she comes out (hopefully) in a few weeks.

amokitty

That's right! Next month, isn't it? You must be countingthe days. :)

xakko

yay, Liavisit must be very exciting!

J_Harper

I can't yet. Her place of work hasn't officially given her her days off yet. It's pissing me off, since I can't do any prep for our vacation until I know when she's coming.

J_Harper

And neither can my mom, since she's paying for two days on Cape Cod for us.

amokitty

Nothing good ever came easy, does it? *sigh*

J_Harper

but I am looking forward very much to her coming. :)

amokitty

Your mom is a generous soul! Cape Cod sounds so romantic!

J_Harper

If she doesn't find out by next week I'm going to have to talk to my boss about removing the week I requested off and making it float until I know when she's coming.

J_Harper

Birthday gift for Lia and me. :)

xakko

very, very nice

J_Harper

Plus it will be the fall. Won't be congested by traffic and tourists.

J_Harper

I just got to research it. Funny, I've lived in Mass. all my life, but I know very little about the Cape.

J_Harper

Lia also wants to go to Plymouth again. She loved Plymouth. And also into Boston. We also may go down to Providence for a day, and then go visit my friend Joe.

amokitty

How long will she stay? Not long enough I'm sure!

J_Harper

Probably around a week. That's usual for us. And now, it's far from long enough.

J_Harper

no, I mean.

xakko

i can imagine

amokitty

I would've liked to hear Lia's thoughts on Astonishing. She must've LOVED the Kiotr scene. :)

amokitty

Especially when Kitty tells Peter that he's more than she ever imagined. Take that Kete fanatics! Heh, heh.

J_Harper

I'm sure she did. I hope she can come on tonight. She's been having computer troubles lately.

xakko

considering how much he campaigned to get Ellis to follow him, Whedon seems hellbent on undoing Warren's damage in Excalibur

amokitty

Yes he does! It's like Joss is saying "Pete who?" Even though he clearly created Spike with him in mind.

J_Harper

I just have fears that if a pro Kete writer ever gets those two together again, he'll try to top those scenes or something. And then we get a Kiotr writer doing the same. Have Kitty end up as a sexual ping pong ball. :(

xakko

Ellis seems content to let it die, i'll give him that

amokitty

If Cornell got a hold of Kitty, that is EXACTLY what would happen. If his mini is anything to go by

J_Harper

Ellis doesn't like retreading old ground. I'll give him that. He doesn't like to repeat himself.

J_Harper

Lia told me about the mini. He made Wisdom into a creepy stalker - at least that's what if felt like to me. :/

xakko

me too... don't say that to the Ketes, tho'

amokitty

He was a drunken stalker actually. A cheating one too.

J_Harper

Oh, I have a question. Does Kitty know that Logan through Peter at the Juggernaut way back when in Uncanny 183?

J_Harper

threw.

xakko

i don't think so.

amokitty

I don't think that's been mentioned, Jeremy. I think Kitty is unawares.

xakko

she was already en route to Chicago by that time, yes?

amokitty

Yep. In the Kitty and Wolverine series.

J_Harper

I need to do some research on this fic. I could wing it, but I should do the research.

amokitty

Do you have the Kitty and Wolverine series?

J_Harper

No. I don't think I'll need to touch on that, though, for this. But I need to read 183 and some of Secret Wars.

amokitty

Good luck not retching.... ;)

xakko

i *love* 183.

xakko

Secret Wars... ugh. that was sooooo cheesy

J_Harper

I'm trying to figure out how Peter feels about what Wolverine did to him. My instict is that, yes he damn well deserved what he got, but he resents Logan a bit for it, and thinks he's something of a hypocrite, considering what he was up to trying to get between Scott and Jean.

amokitty

Funny, I hate #183. I practically cried when I read it. It was awful! I knew something bad would happen, but I never expected an actual break up.

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J_Harper

Hey K.

amokitty

Good point, Jeremy. Logan never used to give a rat's ass abut honor in the old days. He tried to steal Jean.

Kirayoshi

Hey all!

xakko

I think Peter respects him - I think of "Giri" as being ideal...

xakko

hi K!

amokitty

Kirayoshi is here! yay!!

J_Harper

I think you can respect some one and still resent them a bit.

Kirayoshi

Whoof!

xakko

That was pre-Wolverine Ltd Series.

J_Harper

Heh.

Kirayoshi

What's the current topic?

J_Harper

Talking a bit about my new story.

Kirayoshi

Ah. La Belle Dame Sans Merci.

xakko

well, Logan was mad not because Peter cheated on Kitty - because he knew that was the Zsaji effect. he was mad because Peter was throwing away something true he had with Kitty and hurting them both

J_Harper

I asked if anyone knew if Kitty knew Logan through Peter at Juggernaut. Trying to set some groundwork on the next chapter.

J_Harper

Xak and Amo think no.

amokitty

Parlez- vous Francais, Kirayoshi? :)

Kirayoshi

So what is this person anyway, a succubus?

Kirayoshi

Not really, Amo. I was thinking of an old poem.

J_Harper

She's inspired from a story by C.L. Moore called Shambleau. But I recently realised she looks and feels a lot like a White Court Vampire from the Harry Dresden novels, which was not intentional.

Kirayoshi

Keats.

amokitty

I've read it, but wondered if you waxing poetic or was thinking in French.

Kirayoshi

The former.

Kirayoshi

Although Dolly Parton's 'Jolene' would also fit, I think.

amokitty

Peter has every reason to be terrified. Kitty does too. I wonder if Sharyala's effect can happen with women too?

Kirayoshi

OY, are we going into that again?

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xakko

hi DS!

J_Harper

I'm not sure. That's something that I'll have to think about. I do know that she'll be very effective against Peter, because he's what she calls her bright soul.

amokitty

DS, hi there!!! :)

Kirayoshi

Darkstorm!

darkstorm5000

Hey-Hey!

xakko

so i do have to ask, why aren't more of you doing the LWW contest?

J_Harper

Hey Darkstorm.

darkstorm5000

How's everyone?

J_Harper

Just haven't been paying attention, Xak. I'm not very good at spontanious writing.

amokitty

I'm doing great now that I get to visit with you guys again! :)

amokitty

You've had this story in mind for some time, right Jeremy?

xakko

i had three bad entries in a row. this last one got some love, but i threw it together in an hour

amokitty

If Rose were here, things would be damn near perfect.

J_Harper

Yes, it's been gestating for at least a year now.

J_Harper

And Lia.

amokitty

But I'm still holding out hope that Lia will come! Rose probably won't due to some really bad weather. There's a tornado warning right now where she lives. :(

xakko

* noddles

J_Harper

yow!

xakko

* hopes for the best for Rose

darkstorm5000

Second that...

Kirayoshi

My prayers are with her.

amokitty

Me too. That's the one thing I'll never miss about my old home. It was right in the middle of Tornado Alley...

xakko

* is glad that the worst he gets is snow

J_Harper

Another question. Was Lobdel writing Uncanny back during the beginning of the Gold Team days, with the intro of Bishop and all.

amokitty

Yes. In fact wasn't it Lobdell that created Bishop? This was in the same period that Mikhail was brought back by Byrne and Portacio.

amokitty

I believe it was in the Uncanny #280's or #290's period, wasn't it?

J_Harper

Yeah.

Kirayoshi

Wasn't Claremont fired from the title just a few months after Adjectiveless X-Men first debuted?

xakko

yes

amokitty

Yep. I think CC's last issue was #3 or #4.

J_Harper

I thought he quit.

Kirayoshi

Like Nixon quit

amokitty

Claremont was basically forced out. Jim Lee was writing the plots that CC was made to script over.

J_Harper

Love how Marvel treats the people who made their cash cows... Not that DC was probably any better.

amokitty

Mind you, he technically left of his own free will, but he had almost nothing to do with the books. Harras made it impossible to stay.

Kirayoshi

IIRC that was about the time Byrne was revamping Superman.

Kirayoshi

I wonder how long he has yet on Marvel these days.

Kirayoshi

The only title he has left is Exiles, and I don't know for how long that's gonna last.

J_Harper

Harris was very much pro artist. I hate to say it, though I'm a writer, but I wonder if we've swung to far in the other direction now.

amokitty

I've wondered the same thing. Now that he's been let go of NEX, Exiles is all he's got left. And that sucks.

Kirayoshi

Given that most of Marvel's current crop of writers started in TV and movies, I find it odd.

Kirayoshi

Straszinski, Whedon, Kevin Smith, Paul Cornell

Kirayoshi

I think some of the writers from the X-Men movies were doing Ultimate X-Men.

J_Harper

heh. It's funny, in the old days writers wanted to get out of comics and get into TV and movies. Now, you have to be a name TV or movie writer to work for the Big 2. Or at least Marvel.

amokitty

I should clarify... Exiles doesn't suck. The fact that CC is writing a book that isn't really an X-book, DOES.

xakko

I agree.

Kirayoshi

Not to mention Richard Donner doing Superman!

Kirayoshi

I'm kind of interested in this Exiles/Excalibur crossover, given the quality of its villains.

xakko

CC has his flaws - many of them, really. But I dont' think Bru or Carey or Kyle/Yost are better

xakko

more modern, maybe, but not better.

J_Harper

I still think X-books eats writers' brains. Bru's Cap is fantastic.

J_Harper

And Lucifer was very damn good.

amokitty

I've said it just recently. Marvel has become Hollywood suck ups. JMS, Whedon, Kyle and Yost, Kevin Smith.... not everything they do is gold.

xakko

i didn't care for it, and then the lameass death issue... gah.

Kirayoshi

I understand the plot of the E/E crossover involves Otherworld and Mad Jim Jaspers.

J_Harper

Hell, Steve Segal wrote an X-book for a while and everyone howled how bad his run was, yet he did great work on Sandman Mystery Theatre.

Kirayoshi

Babylon 5 is regarded as one of the best sci-fi shows ever, but fans are howling for JMS's blood for 'ruining Spider-Man'.

amokitty

I'm both interested and hesitant about the new Die By The Sword series. CC's AU Kitty will probably meet Wisdom. And she's younger than 616 Kitty currently is now. Course that never stopped Wisdom before..... heh.

xakko

there are some people who love Seagle's X-run

J_Harper

I think I just heard the howls.

Kirayoshi

Hey, Pete gets a Kitty, he can leave Peter and our Kitty alone! Win/win!

xakko

I loved some of JMS Spidey, and other - I mean - Sins Past and Remembered?

J_Harper

Never happened. I don't know what those stories are. ;)

J_Harper

Never heard of them, before. ;)

Kirayoshi

His best issues were when May confronted Peter about his being Spider-Man, and when Peter and MJ reconciled while Spidey and Cap fought anti-Dr. Doom terrorists.

xakko

lucky man

amokitty

Gwen is still a saint. She died a virgin. the end. :)

Kirayoshi

Hey, the reset button is coming.

J_Harper

If Lia was here she'd have some interesting things to say about JMS. She loves her Gwennie.

Kirayoshi

Unfortunately the reset button will probably remove Peter's marriage to MJ.

Kirayoshi

Anyone wish they'd cast Kirsten Dunst as Gwen and Bryce Dallas Howard as MJ?

J_Harper

And it's going to blow up in their faces. I can feel it.

xakko

the Marvel U shouldn't have to go through resets. That's DC's crutch

Kirayoshi

You caught Jackpot in the Free Comics issue, right?

J_Harper

heard about her, yes. Lia told me.

amokitty

Great point, K. Neither of them would've had to die their hair!!!!

Kirayoshi

I'm currently watching Bryce in a Shakespeare production, "As You Like It".

Kirayoshi

Set in 19th century Japan, oddly enough.

amokitty

Bryce is an excellent actress. Must be in the genes.

xakko

is she going to lose her hair?

amokitty

Oh! DS, did you read Astonishing?

Kirayoshi

Just as long as she steers clear of Shyalaman(sp?)

Kirayoshi

She's wearing it under her hat while dressing as a man.

amokitty

Hey! I LIKED Lady in the Water! No, really!

darkstorm5000

Oh, ::biggrin yeah!

Kirayoshi

Anyone hear what Shyamalan's working on next?

Kirayoshi

He's doing a 3-movie set based on Avatar: the Last Airbender!

amokitty

Isn't it a children's story?

amokitty

DS, what did you think of "whoof"? ;)

Kirayoshi

It's on Nickelodeon, but it's the kind of cartoon that adult fans can enjoy.

Kirayoshi

Kinda like Batman:TAS in that regard.

darkstorm5000

Mmm-Hmmm...

Kirayoshi

Very good animation, surprisingly strong and mature storytelling.

amokitty

I fear Kitty and Peter's happiness is too good to last.....

Kirayoshi

We do know that Cyke will pull through; doesn't Messiah Complex take place post-AXM?

amokitty

I tallied up all the movies I've seen this summer. Fifteen. A record for me I think.

Kirayoshi

I just saw Stardust.

Kirayoshi

Lots of fun.

xakko

i liked it, but was a little disappointed, K

Kirayoshi

Very 'Princess Bride' funny.

amokitty

Messiah complex does take place after Unstoppable. So yeah, Scott lives.

xakko

and no, nothing in the X-universe takes place after Astonishing, I thought

Kirayoshi

Not the same tone as Gaiman's book(I read the original with the C. Vess illustrations), but that's not a bad thing.

amokitty

I thought of Princess Bride too! An adult sort of fairy tale.

xakko

i thought it was very Hollywood. but loved the Capt Shakespeare change

J_Harper

Folks, I have to head out. I'll see you all later.

amokitty

DeNiro slew me!

Kirayoshi

Gaiman once said that literature and movies have different rules for storytelling, so a faithful adaptation wouldn't work anyway.

Kirayoshi

"We always knew you were a whoopsie!"

J_Harper

Take care. G' night.

amokitty

Aw Jeremy! Darn it! I had more questions about Sharyala! til next time, then! Thanks for coming!!!!

Kirayoshi

Leaving already? I just got here!

xakko

g'nite Jeremy... sorry about the job suckage

J_Harper

You're tempting me to stay, 'cause I love talking about my writing. ;)

Kirayoshi

Only one question I have about Sharyala; how painful will her death be?

amokitty

Sleep well, okay? I hope tomorrow treats you well, Jeremy!

Kirayoshi

Take care, friend.

amokitty

LOL.

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J_Harper

I'll let you know about that, K, when I figure out how she's thwarted. ;)

Kirayoshi

Bad timing, J! Star's here!

amokitty

Hi Starsinger!

starsinger

Howdy!

J_Harper

I see. But I need some sleep. Take care everyone.

amokitty

Take care, Jeremy. :)

J_Harper

G' night!

starsinger

night, j

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darkstorm5000

Hi, Starsinger!

xakko

hi starsinger

darkstorm5000

Good night, J!

Kirayoshi

Hey, Star.

Kirayoshi

What's the up?

starsinger

just woke up

amokitty

At 11pm???

Kirayoshi

Just what Shakespeare's always needed; samurai swords.

amokitty

You live in Dallas right?

starsinger

work night shift, and just got to bed about three hours ago

darkstorm5000

Sounds like my kinda Shakespeare

starsinger

yep, big D, well, actually Irving, but that's just getting technical

amokitty

Holy crap, Star. Well it was good of you to join us!

Kirayoshi

You'd enjoy it, actually, DS.

Kirayoshi

HBO's new version of As You Like It, directed by Kenneth Branaugh.

darkstorm5000

Think I'll have to check it out then

starsinger

Well, all in my quest to get AXM 22. My fave comic book store didn't have it, ended up in Arlington

amokitty

Kenneth Branaugh. The thinking woman's sex god. :D

Kirayoshi

Features Kevin Kline and Alfred Molina in supporting roles.

xakko

and will go down in history as a Harry Potter movie character, unfortunately.

Kirayoshi

Brannaugh himself isn't in this one. He's just behind the camera this time.

Kirayoshi

Every actor in England is in Harry Potter, so who cares?

xakko

not that he wasn't good as Lockhart, and I suppose it's better than being known for trying to be Woody Allen

amokitty

*laughs* It's true!

Kirayoshi

It's their way of letting their hair down and doing something fun between meaty roles.

amokitty

Star, I remember having to travel 30 miles each way to go to a local comics shop to buy X-Men. Don't envy you at all.

Kirayoshi

Oh, anyone check out the first issue of Spider-Man/Red Sonja?

amokitty

Nope. How was it?

Kirayoshi

If you remember Claremont's "An Age Undreampt Of" X-Men arc, you may enjoy it.

starsinger

Well, I'm just glad this store is a franchise! otherwise, I don't know where I would have gotten it

amokitty

I loved that issue. A Claremont/Byrne classic!

Kirayoshi

Kulan Gath somehow escapes from a museum artifact and reshapes New York to a Hyborean landscape.

Kirayoshi

Claremont/Romita Jr.

amokitty

We're taking about the team-up issue aren't we?

Kirayoshi

Spider-Man tries to deal with the weirdness, only to be attacked by an angry Red Sonja.

Kirayoshi

Who ten seconds ago was MJ!

Kirayoshi

Oh, Claremont and Byrne did that Marvel Team-up, yeah.

amokitty

Marvel Team-Up, I mean.

Kirayoshi

But Romita JR. pencilled an X-Men arc where Kulan Gath turned the New Mutants into slaves and crucified Spider-Man.

starsinger

that's depressing

amokitty

Oh yeah! Uncanny #190???

Kirayoshi

Yeppers.

amokitty

gotcha.

xakko

Colossus dies in that one :(

starsinger

again?

amokitty

LOL.

Kirayoshi

Spider-Man died in that one!

xakko

most of them die. but Yana to the rescue!

Kirayoshi

Word is that Venom will figure in this new story.

amokitty

Remember that, Xak. Cause these days it's Illyana who's in need of rescue. :(

amokitty

I kind of wished she stayed dead.

xakko

from Kyle and Yost or me?

Kirayoshi

So I'm assuming that she's gonna be stuck in Limbo(literally and figuratively) for the time being?

amokitty

You, my dear! You can save her!

Kirayoshi

I'm working on that chapter currently.

Kirayoshi

Kinda stuck in a rut with it.

starsinger

cool!

xakko

it'll be another 6 weeks until the LWW challenge is done

xakko

and i'll restart BoM

Kirayoshi

I have a scene where Kitty apologizes to Illyana for letting her younger self die in AXM #302.

starsinger

the picnic basket was the last idea I had, I'm kinda stuck right now

Kirayoshi

UXM, I mean.

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amokitty

Illyana is still stuck in Limbo, but at least she rules it again. Oh wait! it's not Illyana, it's the Darkchilde. Whatever.

Kirayoshi

I'm trying to figure out how Illyana would feel about what happened to her younger self.

xakko

that's a good question, K.

Kirayoshi

Also, after that scene, Illyana wants to grill Kitty about this Brit she dated.

xakko

she probably would understand, and really want to be at peace, but since she wasn't...

amokitty

K, I would love to read this. This sounds like an important story. I never liked how Lobdell handled her death.

starsinger

lol

starsinger

poor Wisdom, he gets dragged into just about everything!

amokitty

He needs to stick with his fairies and stay there! *sticks out tongue*

Kirayoshi

Toward the end of the story I have a scene in mind where Illyana, behind Peter's back, makes a 'Call me' gesture to Pete.

starsinger

love it!

xakko

i don't understand how I got stuck with him

Kirayoshi

As I said before, I like Pete well enough, just not with Kitty.

xakko

bloody persistant git

amokitty

*giggles* You know I can picture that! Illyana with Wisdom is a bit creepy, but i could see her doing that!

Kirayoshi

Kitty and Pete are oil and vinegar. They work well together, they just don't mix well.

starsinger

Peter should love his little sister with Wisdom

Kirayoshi

I do plan to have Pete and Peter hash out some issues together.

starsinger

not physically, I hope

Kirayoshi

Nah,

amokitty

Pete seems like he suffers a bit with a two dimensional personality. In fact, a LOT of Ellis' characters do.

xakko

y'see, I think 'Yana would eat Wisdom alive. and I don't think he'd go for her, because she's too dark, too close to the shadows he's running from

Kirayoshi

Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.

amokitty

Pete would see Illyana as a challenge, but she's out of his league, impressive as it is....

starsinger

all right, who would be a good match for Wisdom?

amokitty

Himself!

amokitty

LOL.

darkstorm5000

Ha!

Kirayoshi

Abigail Brand?

amokitty

Natasha Romanov.

starsinger

are we sure we want to torture him, K?

xakko

Emma Frost

Kirayoshi

Now who's talking torture?

amokitty

Point!

Kirayoshi

I'll admit I loved her in the latest issue.

starsinger

looks innocent who me?

Kirayoshi

"Do you go around to orphanages and explain that there's no Santa?"

starsinger

now that was a really good line!

darkstorm5000

My 3rd fav of the ish

amokitty

I'm overdosing on too much Emma. She's becoming a Mary Sue in that she's perfect (Perfection), and is forever saving the damn day!

starsinger

all right, maybe we've covered this, but what if Scott really is "dead"?

amokitty

Not.

starsinger

I do realize everything is relative in the universe

amokitty

:)

Kirayoshi

Actually my fave was Beast's "I thought I'd have a lot more fun I ever got to say this."

xakko

i'll be shocked, and think Joss has much, much larger cajones than I give him credit for. and i'll be pissed at him

starsinger

"Whoof" was good

darkstorm5000

That was my second fav

Kirayoshi

I suspect that he'll be needing his visor back by the time this thing's over.

darkstorm5000

'Whoof' was my number one

amokitty

My favorite? ... and I've IMAGINED.  *sigh* Heh, heh.

Kirayoshi

Two Star Wars references in one book. Not bad, Joss.

amokitty

DS, lol. That was my #2!

amokitty

BRB.

starsinger

okay, mind being where it is and all, but I did want to see them naked and in bed together, at least once!

starsinger

and I got my wish!

Kirayoshi

A-smeggin'-men!

starsinger

but "fornicating"? couldn't he have thought of a better word than that?

Kirayoshi

Wasn't the translation device not working that well?

starsinger

think mine's got a glitch

starsinger

I'm still trying to figure out why I'm so reluctant to open up Firefly and watch it

Kirayoshi

When Arhganne first encountered Kitty and Peter, she did say that the translator wasn't perfect.

amokitty

Back. :)

Kirayoshi

Front!

Kirayoshi

Side!

starsinger

sideways!

darkstorm5000

Up and down too

starsinger

loopty loops!

xakko

* hums Gasoline fnar

Kirayoshi

Okay, we're being silly.

starsinger

allowed!

amokitty

I love you guys! *chuckles*

xakko

we love you too

xakko

but you aren't getting our budlight

starsinger

yep, we sure do!

amokitty

:D

starsinger

brb, need H2O

darkstorm5000

we just can't help it

amokitty

Hey!!! What about MY beer?!

amokitty

;)

darkstorm5000

I don't know, but now that subject's been brought up...uh, brb

amokitty

I'm disappointed we didn't see K&P discuss the Michael issue. at least K addressed it in his story. I loved, btw.

amokitty

Loved IT, I should say.

amokitty

Do you think Joss will ever bring their "child" up again?

Kirayoshi

One of my favorite Shakespearean put-downs.

Kirayoshi

"Sell while you can, you are not for all markets."

xakko

i dunno... it all depends on what happens.

amokitty

That line from Hamlet was perfect, K. It just made the story.

starsinger

sorry, amo, no beer here, diabetics in house!

Kirayoshi

Actually it was from As You Like It.

Kirayoshi

Oh, my quote.

Kirayoshi

Thanks

amokitty

I can't drink it either, actually. heh, heh.

starsinger

I never started, didn't like the taste

xakko

i don't actually like beer, least of all bud light

Kirayoshi

Same here, Star.

Kirayoshi

More of a Coca-Cola person myself.

amokitty

I like some beers, but I'm not allowed at the moment. *shrugs*

starsinger

well, at least the dog stopped whining, his human left a little while ago

amokitty

I LOVE Coke! And dammit I can't drink that either!

Kirayoshi

Oh, and thanks for the kudos, Amo.

amokitty

I have a bottle of spring water in front of me. Whoopee.

amokitty

I freakin' loved the story, K. What can I say? :)

Kirayoshi

Kinda had it stuck in my head and had to write it.

Kirayoshi

Oh, they're finally releasing Branaugh's Hamlet on DVD.

amokitty

Xak is acting on his muse too. We are SO lucky to have Kiotr fic right now. Thanks everybody! You've all given me so many hours of happiness!

starsinger

I'm stuck! My brain can't think far enough to finish the story I'm still trying to finish, let alone a new one!

amokitty

His scene with Kate Winslet as Ophelia was smokin!

xakko

not terribly much, but at least something kiotry is erupting from my keyboard

xakko

who'd you like to see on the team?

starsinger

sorry, but he is my fave character, fuzzy elf

Kirayoshi

Heck, even Billy Crystal was good in that one!

amokitty

Everybody but Wisdom. :)

starsinger

leave him with Excalibur

amokitty

Sorry! *laughs*

xakko

i loved Billy Crystal as the gravedigger

starsinger

Miracle Max!

Kirayoshi

Have fun storming the castle!

amokitty

Xak, me too!

xakko

it'll be hard to leave Wisdom out. it's his area of the world. and apparently, his milieu

starsinger

Think they'll make it?

starsinger

It'll take a miracle

amokitty

I'd like to see Peter in a film noir-ish kind of story. He and Kitty make such a good team, it would be a fascinating yarn, Im sure.

Kirayoshi

Wasn'

starsinger

funniest fanfic I'd run across in a while Babylon 5/Princess Bride cross-over with Ivonova as Princess Buttercup!

amokitty

Holy cow.

Kirayoshi

That beats mine; Angel meets the Screwtape Letters.

starsinger

She loved the dresses! lol

amokitty

In fact with Rasputin being a serial killer in your story, K... I'd have to say that element (noir-ish) is already there! How's that coming along?

Kirayoshi

I still haven't figured how I'll deal with Daniel in this one.

Kirayoshi

He's a victim as much as any of the hookers Grigori killed.

amokitty

True. He's a good guy, too! Man, why couldn't have Zsaji met HIM??? I think it was his body she was after anyway.... lol.

amokitty

Peter's body, that is.

starsinger

too bad Daniel's not a mutant

darkstorm5000

Never say never

Kirayoshi

Well, seeing as how my story diverges from continuity before House of M, it's alltogether possible.

amokitty

K, you mentioned having a girl's talk between Kitty and Illyana. Will the crap that has come out of Illyana's return in New X-Men affect your story?

starsinger

stranger things have happened

Kirayoshi

As I said, divergent.

amokitty

You caught me typing as you posted that, K. :) I'm glad you're sticking with your own timeline.

Kirayoshi

I missed New X-Men.

Kirayoshi

No, not 'missed'. I don't read it and I don't miss it!

starsinger

I just noticed something the other day, a lot of our stories end up in the attic

amokitty

If you look on my LJ you'll find the Quest for Magik scans, K. In all their idiocy.

Kirayoshi

Doesn

Kirayoshi

Doesn 't Kitty still have that box of photos?

xakko

there were one or two good panels. I think. I don't remember now. I'm clearly blocking

Kirayoshi

Why would I waste time with that when I can just read the spoilers on CBR?

amokitty

The box of photos hasn't been mentioned in years. Since Unlimited #30 something, I think.

amokitty

True.

Kirayoshi

I know that OldPrydeFan did a great scene in the attic.

amokitty

And so did Starsinger recently with her own attic scene!

xakko

god. yes

starsinger

guilty!

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amokitty

If Kitty should die, I wonder if Peter will mourn like Scott did Jean? I wonder if he would leave the team like Scott and Kitty did? Geez these deaths are so ridiculous.

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xakko

oops

xakko

i think i'm too tired to stay awake

amokitty

Did the room bite ya, Xak? ;)

xakko

no, i actually closed the wrong window

xakko

my bad.

starsinger

whoops!

xakko

i'm afraid i can't keep my eyes open... i'm sorry...

Kirayoshi

I still say that Lockheed won't be returning.

Kirayoshi

If they do kill him, I hope they let him go out a hero.

amokitty

It was wonderful that you came. :)  Thank you!

xakko

have a wonderful night everyone, i'll catch up on the chat.

xakko

thanks to all of you...

starsinger

night, Xakko

darkstorm5000

Night, Xak!

amokitty

Night, Xak!

xakko

g'nite

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Kirayoshi

Later, Xak

starsinger

That

starsinger

s assuming Scott isn't really dead

amokitty

I fear a lot of damage has been done to Lockheed.

Kirayoshi

From what Brand said, I wonder if Lockheed may resent Kitty.

amokitty

All those times when he would coo and purr.... it's all a joke now. :(

Kirayoshi

Of course they did this once with Lockjaw way back, revealing that he was a person before being mutated by the Terigen mists.

amokitty

That's right!

Kirayoshi

Later, Peter David revealed that Lockjaw was always a dog, and that Karnak was throwing his voice.

starsinger

I don't know, I think maybe Brand might have been jealous. Lockheed and Kitty do share a bond

amokitty

I'm not sure that Lockheed can be retconned into a cute little dragon again after this. And that makes me sad.

starsinger

No, he can evolve into something else

darkstorm5000

True, notice Brand and Hank's earlier conversation.

starsinger

I still want to know what's under that glove!

amokitty

Claremont never stated if he was an adult or not, but hinted that he might have been a baby because of the hatched egg in Uncanny #166. Now it's been confirmed he's an adult. It changes things.

Kirayoshi

She's really Shego!

starsinger

lmao

Kirayoshi

Or that its lifespan is shorter than a human's.

Kirayoshi

It's possible that Lockheed was a hatchling when he met Kitty, but grew to adulthood by this time.

starsinger

small dragon

Kirayoshi

What, seven years? Half the lifespan of your average housecat.

amokitty

In Uncanny annual #8, Kitty asks herself about what Lockheed thinks of her. Now I'm looking back on EVERYTHING and questioning it! Dammit!

starsinger

maybe that last glare from Lockheed was directed at Brand, not Kitty

Kirayoshi

Something tells me he's gonna go out a hero by the end of this.

amokitty

If he's an adult, then their friendship doesn't have the cute and innocent spin to it anymore. You're the best X-dragon ever, seems silly now doesn't it? and to think Joss planned that all along!

amokitty

There's no doubt that Lockheed loves Kitty, but I question now what kind of love that is. And I hate doing that!

starsinger

well, he clearly thinks Piotr is her best match (compared to Wisdom, remember Brian and Meggan's wedding?)

amokitty

I think K is right and that Lockheed will in the end, be a hero. What I want to know is what Brand has over him? How is she helping him?

Kirayoshi

Not to mention his standing hatred of Wisdom.

starsinger

well, hiding Wisdom's clothes in the highest reaches of Muir Island was a bit cruel

Kirayoshi

Oh, Star, liked your story.

amokitty

Not really, when you consider that Wisdom called him a flying RAT continually!

starsinger

thank you, K!

starsinger

Okay, so the feelings were mutual!

Kirayoshi

Let he who is without sin and all that.

amokitty

I still owe reviews..... I'm TRYING to catch up! Let's see, I owe DS, I owe Jeremy, I owe Xak.... *sigh*

starsinger

they're back, and the dog is whining again

amokitty

I'm blessed to have read such incredibly well written stories.  BUT, if Kitty or Peter dies, will it affect your writing? Will it be too hard?

Kirayoshi

Well, someone's gonna have to take up the torch.

starsinger

Considering who I killed off in one of my stories recently?

starsinger

naw, just chalk it up to an AU

amokitty

yeah, but your Kitty came back, Star! ;)

starsinger

I honestly thought people would hate that story

darkstorm5000

It'll definitely piss me off, yeah. But it wouldn't stop me from writing about them, hell they're the main reason I originally switched to writing X-fanfic in the first place

amokitty

Course not!

Kirayoshi

Is it wrong of me that when I saw that story I was reminded of that X-Men parody cartoon?

Kirayoshi

"Oh, like none of you ever came back from the dead!"

Kirayoshi

"I haven't!"

amokitty

Are we counting alternate realities???

amokitty

LOL.

amokitty

That was gold. I wish they'd do more of them!

starsinger

that stories origins come from the way they ended the Legacy Virus, and that they killed off Moira, I loved Moira!

amokitty

If Peter dies again, he'll STAY dead, I'm sure of it. If Kitty dies, I'll have hope.

amokitty

I miss Moira too. One of CC's strengths was having a unique and interesting supporting cast. This doesn't exist anymore, and the books suffer as a result of that. Axel Alonso said the X-men are now an army. yuck. I miss the family feel the book had. but that's just me.

Kirayoshi

They keep saying "Not everyone will come back". No one has said "Not everyone will survive."

Kirayoshi

There's a difference.

Kirayoshi

The problem with Marvel is that all heroes have become an army, now that we have the SHRA acting like the elephant in the living room.

amokitty

Ideally, if you're right K; then Lockheed won't return (for a while) because of whatever's going on his homeworld. and everybody lives. I think deep down though, somebody dies. :(

Kirayoshi

If we see Kitty and/or Peter in some ad art or previews of Messiah Complex, I'll breathe a little easier.

amokitty

Exactly! No more buddy stories anymore! the old Beast/Wonder Man dynamic could never work now. I miss that.

starsinger

hey, I've got it, Scott gets picked up and becomes a Space Cadet!

Kirayoshi

My main beef with registration is that Iron Man's taken this whole "my way or the highway" attitude.

Kirayoshi

Maybe he'll run into Alex and Rachel!

starsinger

oh, that'll go over well

darkstorm5000

That would be nice

amokitty

Peter has been shown on a cover for Messiah Complex. I'm almost positive he's safe. It's Kitty, Hisako, and Lockheed I'm worried about the most. Which sucks, Because i love all of them.

amokitty

Tony is past redemption now if you ask me. What an awful bastard. He's power mad.

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Kirayoshi

75% of my complaints about registration would go away if SHIELD were to close shop.

amokitty

And I still can't believe O.N.E. is still at the mansion!

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starsinger

sorry, hit wrong button

Kirayoshi

I predict that by next year, Anita Hill will flat out say it; "Superhumans aren't human, therefore they have no human rights!"

amokitty

It happens! :)

amokitty

Hill is no longer running the show though, right?

Kirayoshi

You'd like to think that, would you?

amokitty

LOL! Yes, I would!

amokitty

Now I'm scared!

Kirayoshi

The only way Tony can be redeemed is if it's revealed that Hill is manipulating him.

Kirayoshi

She's a Skrull, I tell you!

amokitty

ha!

darkstorm5000

Speaking of which, I have my doubts about whether Tony is actually Tony

Kirayoshi

I say that there are very few actual Skrull agents in the story.

starsinger

well, it would make sense if this whole situation is a set-up by the Skrull

amokitty

You're right! Tony has to be a victim for any kind saving grace with his character.

Kirayoshi

Just enough to foster some anti-hero paranoia.

starsinger

it just takes a few, well placed agents to wreak havoc

Kirayoshi

Ever see "The Monsters are Due on Maple Street"?

amokitty

No, but please tell more!

Kirayoshi

That's what I think's happening here with this Skrull storyline.

starsinger

scratching head in confusion

Kirayoshi

It was a classic episode of The Twilight Zone.

amokitty

Elektra is a skrull, Star. Long story. :)

starsinger

I knew about elektra, it's the monster thingy that I'm confused about

amokitty

Oh! :)

Kirayoshi

A neighborhood witnesses a possible UFO sighting, and slowly the neighbors, who were depicted as friendly and close at the beginning of the story, turn on each other, ending in a riot.

starsinger

oh, I remember that episode

Kirayoshi

At the end of the ep, two aliens are chatting on their flying saucer; "So that's the procedure. Give them a light show and watch them turn on each other."

amokitty

I remember it now too! My husband is always watching the Twilight Zone marathons on the Sci-Fi channel. heh.

Kirayoshi

Class stuff that!

Kirayoshi

Anyone check out this TZ radio show that's out?

Kirayoshi

I understand Jason Alexander does a reading of The Obsolete Man.

starsinger

for some reason I'm hooked on Who Wants to Be a Superhero?

amokitty

Does Jason give a good rendition? I met him at a Star Trek gathering a year ago... :)

starsinger

Michael Shanks is so cute!

starsinger

sorry, digressing

Kirayoshi

Haven't heard it, I was wondering if any of you did.

amokitty

Oh god, another Daniel lover in the house! *laughs*

amokitty

Sorry, K. I haven't.

starsinger

met him in person, didn't realize he was that cute til then, then, met his pregnant wife

amokitty

What a let down that must've been!

starsinger

he and Christopher Judge did throw a food fight at breakfast that morning though

Kirayoshi

Isn't it Ironic, don'tcha think?

amokitty

Holy crap! And you were there??? Cool!

starsinger

used as a human shield!

amokitty

*hums Alannis*

amokitty

I really think I need to make a banner or some wallpaper with Kitty and Peter touching noses in their Breakworld bed.

starsinger

Terry Rothery, Peter (can't remember last name, played Apophis), Don S Davis, Michael Shanks and Christopher Judge were there, as guests

darkstorm5000

I'd love that!

Kirayoshi

Whoof!

amokitty

I've only waited for over 20 years to see something like that, after all!

starsinger

I second that, K

Kirayoshi

Let's hope that ain't the last time for them!

amokitty

Star, was it a Con?

starsinger

yep, out here in Grapevine, Creation to be exact

Kirayoshi

I remember a Dr. Who convention during my college years.

amokitty

Kitty's words had this prophetic ring of finality to them, I thought. I'm plenty worried.

Kirayoshi

Nick Courtney(the Brigadeer) and Katie Manning(Jo Grant from the Jon Pertwee years) did the Time Warp during the caberet.

starsinger

pulled a practical joke on Johnathan Frakes that is still being talked about today

amokitty

It sucks that most of the Cons in this state never head East, huh K?

amokitty

I saw Frakes last year! Sirtis too. but she was a bitch to my husband. Grrrrr.

starsinger

wow, last time I saw her, she was really sweet

starsinger

Majel Barrett was there too

Kirayoshi

Anthony Ainley(The Master) gave me a photo of Colin Baker taken on location at a Dr. Who shooting.

Kirayoshi

He was a class act.

amokitty

Ooooooo!!! where didja get that, K?

Kirayoshi

Unfortunately, there was a nasty incident with that con;

Kirayoshi

At an old Dr. Who con years ago.

amokitty

Who's your favorite doctor? Mine's the old standby, Tom Baker. Although Chris Eccleston is a hottie!

Kirayoshi

The guy the con producers sent to pay the guests ran off with the money, so there was some doubt that the con would continue.

Kirayoshi

Two way tie between Baker and Eccleston.

amokitty

Good grief!

starsinger

ouch! Um, I just recently got into Dr Who

amokitty

Ah, but we have good taste, K!

Kirayoshi

The guests decided that the show must go on.

Kirayoshi

And Nicholas Courtney's got the coolest speaking voice.

starsinger

I'm still trying to wrap my mind about Colonel Tigh being a Cylon

amokitty

good for them! The con was for them, so why not?

Kirayoshi

Very deep baritone, carries to the cheap seats.

Kirayoshi

I'm gonna have to wait til that show goes off the air and rent the DVDS on netflix.

amokitty

I hate Galactica! Ugh! Hubby loves it. Probably loves Starbuck like all the other guys..... sigh

amokitty

It's like watching theater when an actor has an excellent speaking voice - even on a tv show.

Kirayoshi

I'm waiting to see this new Bionic Woman.

starsinger

she was at a con in Tulsa, and well, she was very young, and, "Oh, my God, I'm starring on a hit show!" not annoying, really, just, very very young

amokitty

Yeah, the one with the British chick!

darkstorm5000

It does look interesting

starsinger

I am curious

amokitty

It's been 3 years since I've been in Tulsa. I miss it. :(

starsinger

six hour drive

amokitty

*turns green in envy.

starsinger

don't do it very often

Kirayoshi

Last con I went to, I got autographed Wild Card novels by George R. R. Martin, and an Elfquest graphic novel autographed by Richard and Wendy Pini.

starsinger

there's an anime con coming up next month

Kirayoshi

I also attended a writer's conference hosted by Dean Wesley Smith and his wife Kristine Katherine Rusch.

Kirayoshi

The Kris and Dean Show. Best hundred dollars I ever spent.

amokitty

I love Elfquest!! always have. :)

starsinger

well, I need to go back to bed, and write that chapter, I digress, goo night e1

amokitty

Did the conference help with your writing abilities?

amokitty

Night Starsinger, thanks for coming!!

Kirayoshi

A great deal actually,.

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Kirayoshi

W

Kirayoshi

Aw, you're going now?

Kirayoshi

I lost another one!

amokitty

LOL.

Kirayoshi

Anyway, one of the things they discussed at the conference was the 7 rules for popular fiction;

Kirayoshi

1) Setting. All stories must have a setting.

Kirayoshi

2) Character.

Kirayoshi

3) The character has a problem.

Kirayoshi

4) The Character tries to fix the problem

Kirayoshi

5) The character fails to fix the problem, things get worse.

Kirayoshi

Repeat steps 4-5 for bulk of story.

Kirayoshi

6) The character puts in a last-ditch effort to solve problem and succeeds(or fails if you're going for tragedy).

Kirayoshi

7) Finale, some sort of closure.

amokitty

That sums it all up, doesn't it? :)  Do you apply that to all your stories then?

Kirayoshi

I try to.

darkstorm5000

I think I'm going to go ahead and call it quits for tonight too

amokitty

It's all about the struggle.

Kirayoshi

Yeah, I'm guessing this chat's over for the night.

Kirayoshi

Later all.

Kirayoshi

Peace out.

amokitty

It's going to be an early night, huh?  Thank you, DS for visiting tonight!!

darkstorm5000

Goodnight, K

Kirayoshi

'Night.

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amokitty

It was wonderful that you all came by! Thanks so much!!!

darkstorm5000

Thanks for hosting this again Amo. I enjoyed, as always!

amokitty

Crap, I missed K! That happened fast!

amokitty

We'll see if Astonishing comes out next month! If so, then hopefully I'll see you then! Night, Darkstorm! :)

darkstorm5000

Yeah, here's with fingers crossed on that. Talk to you again soon...

amokitty

Bye, DS! Thanks again!!

darkstorm5000

Nite!

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amokitty

I'm sorry that Madripoor Rose and Lia Fail couldn't join us tonight. I'm thinking of Melodyrider and his family as well.  I'd have loved to have gotten their opinions on the many developments of Astonishing X-Men #22. They're missed. Even so, it was a lovely evening and I thank Xakko, J Harper, Deb, Kirayoshi, Darkstorm 5000, and Starsinger for joining in tonight.  It's appreciated, guys!  Good night. :)

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