Transcript for KIOTR Chat  -  May 5th, 2007
Topic: Astonishing X-Men #21

 

Amokitty

Hey folks!   Happy Cinco de Mayo, and welcome to the latest KIOTR Chat! Astonishing X-Men was simply incredible, and I can't wait to discuss it. :)

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xakko

why hello there!

 

Amokitty

Hey Xak!!!! :D

 

Amokitty

How was yesterday? And today for that matter?

 

xakko

today was boring. yesterday was awesome

 

Amokitty

Well at least it was awesome when it mattered. I'm glad!

 

Amokitty

Any details you wanna share?

 

xakko

i suppose the awesomeness extended into this morning, since the concert didn't let out til 1

 

Amokitty

Ha! Didja go see Enter the Haggis, after all?

 

xakko

just what i posted in LWW X-cres - that Spamalot was good, if not great, the Sabres won, and ETH was amazing and we got the first release of their new live album

 

xakko

they delayed the concert for the Sabres game. we got there a couple minutes before the first set

 

Amokitty

Holy crap, that's wonderful!

 

Amokitty

And here you thought you couldn't do both.

 

xakko

it was... i saw on their myspace that the album would be available at live shows only, then deb said the concert would start at 1

 

xakko

er 10

 

xakko

instead of 8

 

Amokitty

What luck! I'm really happy that it all came together for you. You guys must've had a ball.

 

xakko

the bagpiper started to talk to Deb during the break when i had gone to the bar

 

Amokitty

Woo-hoo! Did he know she was married? ;)

 

xakko

she thought it was because she was singing all the words - almost unheard of for her.

 

xakko

i think he thought she was a groupie, yay...

 

xakko

but i came up and said hi, and he signed our new CD.

 

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xakko

hi there!

 

db91939

whoa... I actually made it to a chat. wicked.

 

Amokitty

Darkbat, is that you??? Welcome!!!

 

db91939

yes it is!

 

Amokitty

Hello! So glad you made it!

 

xakko

i have to say, in many ways, i'm glad this isn't a voice chat.

 

Amokitty

Why is that?

 

db91939

eh?

 

xakko

after the concert last night, i don't know if my ears could handle all the "SQUEEEEEE!"

 

db91939

lol

 

db91939

what concert?

 

xakko

Enter the Haggis

 

db91939

I've never heard of them

 

Amokitty

I'm surprised no one heard me screaming in the next county......

 

xakko

They're celtic influenced band out of Toronto

 

db91939

oh cool. Like Flogging Molly?

 

xakko

not so traditional, but somewhat similar.

 

db91939

that's pretty cool. So you're in Canada?

 

Amokitty

Xak, db, are you guys getting any lag?

 

db91939

not that I know of

 

xakko

not that i noticed...

 

xakko

(close to Canada - i'm in buffalo)

 

db91939

oh cool

 

db91939

so are you all psyched about the Sabres?

 

Amokitty

Good. You never know sometimes. The room has exploded before, so I'm taking no chances. ;)

 

xakko

the band said that they'd driven from Pittsburgh, to Denver to California to here in the past week)

 

xakko

a little bit.

 

db91939

awesome.

 

xakko

::biggrin

 

db91939

I'm rooting for them. 'Cause my Devils just got eliminated. ::sad

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Amokitty

Hi there, sweetheart! :D

 

MadR

Hi guys

 

db91939

hey hey

 

MadR

How's Molly doing?

 

xakko

(i got to go to game 5 of the first round... i have a picture of the sign i made at: http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e178/xakko/Timmyposter.jpg

 

xakko

hi Rose!

 

xakko

loved the story!

 

xakko

gah, trust rose to put things in perspective- yes, Amokitty, how's she doing?

 

db91939

that's awesome!

 

db91939

and you lucky duck

 

Amokitty

She vomited again today, poor thing, but seems to be doing better now. If it happens again she's going to the emergency vet clinic. So all our plans for Mark's birthday tomorrow are scaled back until further notice...

 

xakko

gah...

 

xakko

well, we wish her well, and Mark a happy birthday

 

MadR

Poor pup. Still keeping all y'all in my thoughts.

 

Amokitty

Thank you. We're gonna make the best of it. :)

 

Amokitty

So no more sad thoughts! How about that Astonishing, huh? Wasn't it incredible?

 

MadR

Great kiotr scene

 

xakko

sorry to hear about the devils... i have another friend who's a huge fan

 

xakko

and i don't like Ottawa one bit

 

db91939

me neither

 

Amokitty

Oh lord, I loved that scene. I'm just hoping it doesn't mean that Joss is giving them this time together so it'll hurt that much worse if something happens to one of them.

 

db91939

I was reading Astonishing again this morning while I was drying my hair (and when I mean this morning, I mean like 4 in the afternoon when I got up) and I was a little irritated:

 

xakko

aside from the "Scott loves Emma", which is sort of working for me, this may have been one of my favorites of the Joss issues

 

db91939

they left all of these cliffhangers (like Hank going "Oh My") and we have to wait until July

 

MadR

Nods. We're getting more character moments, but nothing really moving the plot forward.

 

Amokitty

One of my favorites, too. Scott loving Emma makes zero sense to me though.

 

xakko

isn't one of the first things they say to conserve body heat is to get out of your damp clothing? it could just be that... granted, it would be wet fur on Beast

 

Amokitty

LOL.

 

db91939

are they damp?

 

MadR

I'm betting on Agent Brand having some fire related mutation. The green hair.

 

db91939

that's kindof what I was thinking.

 

db91939

then she would turn out to be one big hypocritical bitch

 

xakko

well, bad snowstorms can do that, but it was so cold, that it might not have been absorbed.

 

Amokitty

Well hopefully the snow on them will melt... it's just a matter of HOW. Surely Hank wouldn't consider that with Brand of all people.

 

Amokitty

Maybe she has some fancy SHIELD device for heat.....

 

db91939

Also... they aren't very smart tunnelers. they need an air hole. Ah, the things you learn from watching "The Great Escape" 500 times

 

MadR

I've got one big question: where the hell did Cassandra Nova end up?

 

db91939

maybe she's still slithering around in the mansion, scaring kids by popping out from around corners.

 

xakko

i don't think it's Peter, more and more. That leaves Hisako, doesn't it? There were no other clues, were there?

 

db91939

I know that's what I would do if I was a big bulbous blob

 

Amokitty

I read AXM #18 recently and it looks like Hisako.

 

Amokitty

Re-read, I should say.

 

MadR

Cassandra planned on taking over Kitty, and then 'have a different fancy' in her last mindlink with Emma....

 

xakko

it does, but that seems so... obvious, doesn't it?

 

db91939

Hm. Maybe she transferred part of herself to Emma somehow, and that's why Emma was asking Danger to kill her.

 

xakko

but then, it turned out that the HFC being a product of Emma's mind was obvious too

 

Amokitty

Wouldn't it be awful if the X-Man to die would be Hisako? What'd be worse is if Colossus is pitted against Hisako/Cassie. Then we'd see who’s armor is the best.

 

xakko

Hisako has definitely grown on me.

 

db91939

She was definitely growing on me until she picked that godawful name

 

Amokitty

Me too. Not happy with people calling her a Kitty clone.

 

db91939

why do people need codnames anyways?

 

MadR

I reread the trades last night...and again noticed that Hisako's armor looks a lot like the mental construct Tildie used to kill her parents. I keep wondering if that's going to come into play somehow.

 

db91939

hm...

 

db91939

and by "codnames" I mean "Codenames." because people definitely need to name cod fish.

 

xakko

I'm not as versed with Jossisms as you BtVS fans, so I don't know

 

db91939

I don't think I've ever seen a single episode of Buffy

 

xakko

Codenames are traditional!

 

Amokitty

I've been wondering if we'd ever see Tildie and Rao again. There's so much story left in that.

 

MadR

If you've seen Buffy, Angel, or Firefly, there are a lot of parallels to Astonishing X Men....JW has a bag of writing tricks he likes to repeat.

 

Amokitty

No Buffy? Go rent it! You won't be sorry!

 

db91939

I always took codenames to be another step to hiding an identity... it kindof defeats the purpose when you don't wear a mask.

 

xakko

i think at least one of them will be part of the big X-crossover

 

db91939

yeah, Buffy was a little before my time. I think I was 10 when it started.

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xakko

hiya MR

 

melodyrider

Hello, everybody!

 

MadR

I think the codenames are kind of the cool factor for the younger mutants

 

Amokitty

Well hello Mel! How's it going?

 

MadR

Hi MelodyR

 

MadR

Settled into the new place yet?

 

melodyrider

Pretty good. How about you guys?

 

Amokitty

Not too bad. Fantastic week to be a comic fan that's for sure. :)

 

melodyrider

Still wokring on it. Lot's of stuff to unpack, but I'm glad the computer table's here. Now I don't have to type while lying on the floor :)

 

melodyrider

Or a Whedon fan, I noticed

 

Amokitty

Yep!

 

Amokitty

I think Whedon's had porn on the brain a lot lately though... ;)

 

db91939

maybe he's venting frustration...?

 

MadR

Nekkid Kitty, Buffy's 3some dream....

 

Amokitty

ha!

 

melodyrider

Runaways was fairly innocent, wasn't it?

 

melodyrider

*tries to remember*

 

Amokitty

You know I haven't got to read my copy of Runaways yet!! Been really busy!

 

db91939

hm... I"m going to go put ribs in the oven.

 

MadR

Buffy Season 8 has kind of become Willow's story now....

 

Amokitty

Oh man! Can we come for dinner???? *looks hopeful*

 

Amokitty

I want to know who kissed Buffy!!! why the big secret?

 

xakko

it was Willow!

 

MadR

Oh, the close your eyes and step forward thing, such a gyp.

 

xakko

or all of them!

 

Amokitty

LOL!!! I thought that, too!

 

Amokitty

I mean, who doesn't love Buffy???

 

MadR

I want to see an explanation of Warren too. That's one of the least retconnable deaths ever.

 

Amokitty

The ending floored me.

 

melodyrider

Heh, I'm glad it wasn't Adam, though

 

Amokitty

Wasn't it funny how we saw Angel and Spike and yet they were never actually mentioned by name?

 

MadR

I won't be buying it since it wasn't Adam.

 

MadR

Unless they pull off something really spectacular.

 

Amokitty

Great muppety Odin, why do you suppose Joss is so sex focused? It was all about Xander last ish.

 

MadR

Joss just plays to that now and then.

 

MadR

There were a lot of sex-jokes and plothooks in Buffy, Angel...Firefly

 

Amokitty

It's almost like Joss is playing all of Buffy's sweeties against one another. At this point I'm expecting Reilly next issue.

 

MadR

Riley might just show up in the Initiative plot

 

db91939

I think Russell Crowe's parents need to be given some sort of award for bringing him into this world.

 

Amokitty

I'm telling you, I wouldn't be surprised.

 

MadR

Gladiator's on cable tonight, right?

 

db91939

yeah

 

Amokitty

Watch "A Good Year" recently, db?

 

Amokitty

Ah.

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db91939

no, I'm not really big on chick flicks, and that looked like a chick flick

 

Amokitty

hello honey. :)

 

MadR

Caught the listing for it after Flip This House.

 

amocat

Howdy..

 

xakko

hi Mark!

 

MadR

Hiya Mark

 

amocat

hey xak

 

amocat

howdy rose

 

Amokitty

is anyone here an Emma fan? Just curious.

 

melodyrider

Hello mark!

 

db91939

I always like how she's a bitch.

 

db91939

bitches are fun

 

MadR

I don't like Emma/Scott, but I'm starting to waffle on the character.

 

MadR

She gets a lot of good lines, and I like the bickering between her and Kitty.

 

db91939

for some reason I feel like she has a huge collection of kooky socks. Like with The Little Mermaid or Hello Kitty on them

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Amokitty

Can't stand her. I have long memories of everything's she's done. I can't understand how the X-Men are okay with it. But that's me.

 

xakko

hi K!

 

MadR

But going back to the Joss Whedon Recycles, I think Emma is Lilah Morgan, and I think she is going to die.

 

Kirayoshi

Hey all

 

Amokitty

Kirayoshi! Hey you!! Loved your story!

 

Kirayoshi

NORM!

 

MadR

Hi Kirayoshi

 

Kirayoshi

Norman--

 

MadR

Unbreakable was great!

 

Kirayoshi

thanks

 

Kirayoshi

M Night's best, you're absolutely right.

 

Kirayoshi

Kinda went downhill after that though.

 

xakko

maybe Joss should just let you finish things for him, K

 

MadR

Heh.

 

Amokitty

Well Rose I certainly hope you're right! By sacrificing herself - she'd redeem herself.

 

db91939

God I hope Kitty doesn't die.

 

Amokitty

I think I was the only one who loved Lady in the Water.

 

db91939

It'd really be nice to have SOME characters that never die.

 

Kirayoshi

If this was a slasher movie, she'd be dead next issue

 

Kirayoshi

The naked girl always gets it.

 

xakko

well, granted...

 

db91939

if this was a slasher movie, Kitty and Peter would die next because they just had sex.

 

Amokitty

It's becoming a joke to find who HASN'T died.

 

MadR

Yeah, that's another big scare tactic. Whedon's said in frikking interviews that he doesn't like happy couples....

 

db91939

it's always the horny ones that go first

 

Kirayoshi

You ever see that X-Men cartoon on Newgrounds.com?

 

Kirayoshi

Magneto: Oh, like none of you have ever died before!"

 

Kirayoshi

Kitty:

 

Kirayoshi

Kitty: I haven't.

 

Kirayoshi

"

 

Kirayoshi

Scott; Yes you did, twice.

 

xakko

i love those!

 

Kirayoshi

Kitty: Uh, Lockheed wants to know if we're counting parallel universes.

 

db91939

I LOVE those cartoons

 

db91939

they crack me up

 

MadR

I never saw that toon, hysterical!

 

db91939

they need more

 

db91939

twice?

 

Amokitty

Their rendition of Psylocke had me in stitches.

 

db91939

she died in AoA... and what was the other one?

 

MadR

Hey, we have a new author too, Starsinger

 

Kirayoshi

DoFP?

 

db91939

ooooh

 

db91939

I really don't read too many comics.

 

xakko

one who likes your Lockheed stories, Rose

 

Kirayoshi

Or did she somehow survive being in Widget's body?

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xakko

hi Jeremy!

 

MadR

Lockheed and the Baby, with the kittens. So cute!

 

melodyrider

Hi Jeremy!

 

Amokitty

I haven't read Starsinger's work yet. It's always good to have more writers!

 

J_Harper

Hallo.

 

MadR

Hi Jeremy!

 

Kirayoshi

Hey, Jer

 

Amokitty

Howdy Jeremy!! :D

 

J_Harper

Hope everyone is doing all right.

 

Kirayoshi

We were counting Kitty's deaths in AUs

 

Amokitty

I have GOT to read that story, Rose! Lockheed and kittens??? Awww.

 

J_Harper

A depressing subject...

 

Kirayoshi

Oh, forgot the What If where the X-Men lost Inferno!

 

xakko

well, there was the one in Exiles...

 

melodyrider

She dies in practically every What If she's in! :)

 

MadR

I'll link the ffn page to the kiotr comm after chat

 

J_Harper

So does almost every character in a What If...

 

Kirayoshi

Except last year's Wolverine What If, where she's the last surviving hero

 

melodyrider

And that Kitty is the Kingpin issue, too

 

Amokitty

Jean killed her in a What If issue as I recall.

 

Kirayoshi

The first What If Phoenix lived, IIRC.

 

Amokitty

yep! That was a great issue, too!

 

MadR

brb

 

Amokitty

Good grief, why is it necessary that ANYBODY die at all? I hear Carey is killing off someone too.

 

Kirayoshi

She also survived the X-Men/Magneto arc from What If Why Not?

 

J_Harper

Lia will hopefully be by later.

 

J_Harper

Oh? Who?

 

Kirayoshi

It's called shock value.

 

Amokitty

Wonderful, Jeremy! I'd love to know her thoughts on Astonishing.

 

Kirayoshi

There's an ad in this week's AXM about X-MEN 200, saying someone dies.

 

J_Harper

She was quite pleased... At least with the smut... ;)

 

Kirayoshi

There's a close-up pic of Mystique there too.

 

J_Harper

Huh. Didn't notice that, but then I don't really look at the ads.

 

Kirayoshi

Last time, Peter took the initiative, now it was Kitty's turn. Very nice.

 

Amokitty

No one knows, but it's rumored that the funeral of whoever dies will be shown in Endangered Species.

 

J_Harper

Hmmm...

 

Amokitty

Poor Peter looked floored!

 

xakko

* grumbles about pointless deaths

 

melodyrider

That had to be one of the best "come hither" looks I've ever seen drawn

 

MadR

she asks for more time, then walks out naked

 

J_Harper

I liked the look on Kitty's face - what I have in mind when I use the phrase 'nine parts angel, one part devil.'

 

J_Harper

Walks out naked, or walks in?

 

Kirayoshi

out from behind the curtain, into the bed chamber.

 

Amokitty

Agreed. Cassaday drew Kitty looking quite adult. So take THAT, all you people who refuse to believe that Joss isn't writing her as a kid!

 

MadR

she was in bedroom alcove, walks out to 'living room' area

 

J_Harper

Ah...

 

J_Harper

Well, I guess she had enough time, then. 'Course, fighting for your life and realising the man you love could very well die sorta rearranges your priorities.

 

db91939

I didn't like the look she had on her face too much

 

db91939

I mean, I was fine with the idea of her looking lustful, but she just looked a little posessed

 

Amokitty

Absolutely Jeremy. They both know tomorrow changes everything, so why not take what little time there is for love and comfort?

 

J_Harper

Eh, didn't really get that vibe off of her. I thought she looked mischievous in a sultry way.

 

MadR

I thought her expression was a little off too.

 

Kirayoshi

I kinda like that smirk on the bottom panel.

 

db91939

She looked like she was wearing makeup

 

Kirayoshi

When Peter was saying, "But somehow not as tired."

 

Amokitty

I thought she looked a little naughty. A little wicked. Something we've never seen Kitty showing before.

 

db91939

I don't know about you, but if I was on an alien world hiding after going through what she went through... makeup would be the last thing on my mind

 

MadR

The ficlet I wrote, tried to kind of play into that; mostly she's seducing him to distract him from getting into the 'self-sacrifice of behalf of the Breakworld mindset.

 

J_Harper

Again, didn't really notice that, but I'll have to take another look at it.

 

Kirayoshi

Blame it on the coloring, DB

 

Amokitty

The expression made me wonder for a split second if Nova was really inside Kitty. She does consider Peter to be quite the goodlooking guy.

 

db91939

eh

 

MadR

I liked the look on both Kitty and Piotr's faces after the Kiss, before the phasegasm.

 

Kirayoshi

OY!

 

db91939

RIBS!

 

J_Harper

"Course, my theory about Peter being given to the Powerlord in chains is still valid.

 

Kirayoshi

Expect backstabbing from SWORD.

 

MadR

SWORD marine guy and the coup

 

xakko

yup, although perhaps not, if that new guys is aiming for the Powerlord slot

 

MadR

offering to give them Rasputin.

 

MadR

brb

 

db91939

ok, I'm going to gorge myself on scrumptious ribs, I'll be back in a bit

 

Amokitty

You should've invited us for dinner, now you'll have to put up with us drooling....

 

Kirayoshi

I did a couple of tacos on my way home from work.

 

Kirayoshi

Also swung by Hastings for some free comic books.

 

J_Harper

My guy doesn't participate in that.

 

Amokitty

Who didn't see the backstabbing from SWORD coming?

 

xakko

i missed FCBD as well

 

J_Harper

Though I did swing by today and picked up a bout a hundred dollars worth of books. I had a lot of back stock.

 

Amokitty

So did I, but today was busy. Oh well! Always next year.

 

Amokitty

Whoa! I know how you're spending your weekend!

 

xakko

i do want that Dan Slott Spidey, tho'

 

Kirayoshi

The Spider-Man story by Dan Slott was entertaining, if OOC.

 

Kirayoshi

Out of Contunity

 

Kirayoshi

Continuity, I mean

 

MadR

bak

 

xakko

yeah, i'm still hoping the X-Men/Runaways from last years is too

 

Kirayoshi

There had been rumors that some story points from the book may become canon, which has me concerned.

 

MadR

I need to get to the bookstore and pick up the new Cable And Deadpool trade

 

Kirayoshi

Especially the new heroine introduced in the book.

 

xakko

hrmmm... you have me curious. I usually love Dan Slott

 

Amokitty

I need to pick up the latest Hulk trade, and I don't even collect it. It seems like Pak is back on track with it though. and the Nanny Brood was a pleasant surprise. :)

 

Kirayoshi

It's a good story, but is the world ready for JACKPOT?

 

Amokitty

Of course it is, K. Who doesn't love your story??? :D

 

Kirayoshi

I meant Jackpot from Slott's story, but thanks.

 

Amokitty

Can't blame me too much, right?

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MadR

Hiya Darkstorm

 

Amokitty

Hiya Darkstorm!!! I'm glad you made it!

 

xakko

hi DS5K!

 

melodyrider

Hey there!

 

Kirayoshi

Do the math; her name is Jackpot, she's a redhead and when Spider-Man's out of earshot, she calls him 'Tiger'!

 

darkstorm5000

Hi everybody!!! ::laugh

 

xakko

GAH

 

Amokitty

What?!!! On no.....

 

Kirayoshi

That's all the clues the issue gives regarding her identity.

 

MadR

Sigh. Sounds like cheap theatrics. Making her a heroine.

 

xakko

sounds like a 50's Superman story

 

Kirayoshi

On the other hand, I'd rather have her become a hero than have her written off like Joe Q would like.

 

Amokitty

Good analogy, Xak. Like when Lois Lane had powers.

 

Kirayoshi

There's also a preview of JMS's One More Day. You get to see Spider-Man hand Iron Man his @$$!

 

Amokitty

I don't think Joe Q will have his way in the end. It would damage both characters too much.

 

MadR

Anybody see Spiderman 3 yet?

 

xakko

our hosts did

 

Amokitty

Yes, and it was hit and miss for me. Quite sad, I thought.

 

darkstorm5000

Not yet, but I've been thinking about it

 

Kirayoshi

I'm going Tuesday.

 

Amokitty

"Our hosts", you crack me up! ;)

 

MadR

Dumb question: what was the Stan Lee cameo? Saw someone mention it in a review, but no detail

 

Amokitty

It was just Stan meeting with Peter Parker on the street and saying a few lines. Spidey is about to be given the keys to the city in the scene.

 

MadR

Huh. Someone said it was the best cameo out of all the marvelmovies.

 

J_Harper

Lia's coming.

 

Kirayoshi

When Spider-Man is popular in New York, it's never a good sign

 

Amokitty

The Bruce Campbell cameo was pure gold!!! One of the best scenes in the whole damn movie!

 

Amokitty

Yay, Lia!

 

Kirayoshi

I heard one rumor that Bruce wants to play Mysterio in SM4 and tie in all his cameos.

 

MadR

That would be incredible.

 

Amokitty

Oh man, that would be awesome! Perfect even.

 

J_Harper

I enjoyed SM 3. I don't think it was as good as the other two, but I thought it had some quality. I just wish I could have seen it with Lia, so I could see Lia geek out when she saw Gwen for the first time. :)

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xakko

i don't know if i'll offend anyone with this - but i don't think Sam Raimi "gets" Spidey

 

xakko

hi Lia!

 

Lia

Hi guys!

 

MadR

Hiya Lia!

 

Amokitty

Hello Lia! Woo-hoo!!!

 

darkstorm5000

Hi Lia

 

melodyrider

Hi Lia!

 

J_Harper

Hey shweetie!

 

Kirayoshi

I thought he 'got' him perfectly in the first movie.

 

MadR

The movies has Spidey way angstier and not as quippy.

 

Amokitty

I don't think he got Spidey in this latest movie, actually....

 

J_Harper

In real life, it's sort of hard to quip in the middle of a fist fight.

 

Kirayoshi

The thing is, with movies they have to condense a lot of the timeline to fit two and a half hours or so.

 

xakko

see, i wasn't impressed with any of them...

 

MadR

I don't think there could be a more perfect J Jonah Jameson though.

 

Amokitty

Oh, so true!

 

Kirayoshi

So they have to go with the Big Moments a lot more, where Spidey is less likely to quip.

 

Amokitty

Aunt May is perfect too.

 

xakko

i mean, poor put upon Parker is simple enough for anyone... but... *shrug*

 

J_Harper

Watch for spoilers, please. Lia hasn't seen it yet.

 

xakko

i can't spoil nothin'

 

Kirayoshi

I would have gone with Francis Sternhagen but Rosemary Harris was perfect.

 

Lia

It's ok, I already know what happens. Spoil away!

 

MadR

Haven't seen it but read the novelization.

 

Kirayoshi

I haven't seen it either so I can't spoil anything.

 

J_Harper

Heh. :)

 

Amokitty

I'm not giving away anything important, 'cause I know most everybody wants to and will see it. :)

 

Kirayoshi

Personally I'm looking forward to the planned Magneto movie.

 

J_Harper

Well, I'll say this much - whoever does another X film should watch this film to see how team battles should be done.

 

Amokitty

How do you know, Lia?

 

Lia

Read the plot online. Plus I read an article today about how Raimi planned a much quieter Sandman centered story, but the producers made him change it to add Venom and Gwen, which made me feel bad for the guy.

 

Kirayoshi

Or the Wolverine movie, but mainly if they move the action to Japan and involve Mariko and her father.

 

Amokitty

Agreed, Jeremy. The action was palpable. You could almost feel it! and the CGI was absolutely stupendous.

 

MadR

Anyone heard anything about the Wolverine cartoon lately? Or the rest of X Men Evo on dvd?

 

Lia

All I know is that Kitty and Peter were both in the preview art for it, so I'm happy!

 

Amokitty

Raimi makes you feel for ALL the villains. None of them were 2 dimensional schmucks.

 

J_Harper

Venom was.

 

J_Harper

I really couldn't feel much for Mr. Eddie Brock, Jr.

 

Amokitty

Okay, I'll give you that. *chuckles*

 

MadR

I don't want to get too spoilery, but I think they missed out on something with Sandman.

 

Kirayoshi

So Venom was just like in the comic?:D

 

J_Harper

Hah! Pretty much. But at least Venom is better than Carnage. I may not like Bendis too much, but I'll give him a kudos for having Sentry tear Carnage in half.

 

Amokitty

Really Jeremy? See I kinda felt for Eddie. He seemed like a version of Peter Parker that had gone wrong.

 

Amokitty

Do tell, Rose!

 

Kirayoshi

Bendis is good, but he needs to limit himself to Powers and one other title a month.

 

Kirayoshi

He's spreading himself too thin.

 

Amokitty

Even less than the comic, K. :D

 

MadR

Giving him a sick daughter instead of an aging mother...there could have been a nice Peter/Aunt May parallel there, for a sympathetic bad guy.

 

J_Harper

I know that was the thrust of the character, that he was suppose to be Peter through a mirror darkly, but I didn't really feel much for him.

 

J_Harper

The movie was way too busy.

 

Amokitty

A LOT of people are like him real life, though. I pitied him.

 

J_Harper

Sandman deserved to have some more focus.

 

J_Harper

And I'm not a big Sandman fan. :)

 

MadR

My favorite Sandman story from the comics is the Christmas one, with Spidey and the Human Torch chasing him after a prison break, and letting him visit his mother

 

Amokitty

Yes, it had too much on one plate. And it was a bit too long.

 

J_Harper

How do Kitty and Peter look in the art promos?

 

J_Harper

For the Wolverine cartoon?

 

Kirayoshi

I liked when Sandman was briefly one of the good guys.

 

Amokitty

A lot like Evolution, I thought.

 

xakko

don't care for Peter's costume design... kinda more blah than usual

 

Kirayoshi

My favorite was when Sandman was blackmailed into re-upping with the Sinister Six.

 

Amokitty

The designs, I mean.

 

Kirayoshi

Links please and thank you.

 

Lia

here's the promo pic: http://forums.toonzone.net/showpost.php?p=2502211&postcount=193

 

J_Harper

Thanks love.

 

Kirayoshi

Much obliged.

 

MadR

I just hope I catch the Wolverine cartoon and any kiotr appearances, since I didn't see the Cartoon Network's Fantastic Four thing until it was already cancelled. One ep.

 

db91939

yum yum yum

 

Amokitty

I hope Kitty and Peter get some limelight, but it's probably too much to ask.

 

J_Harper

No big loss. I heard the new FF cartoon was dreadful.

 

Kirayoshi

I hear that the FF cartoon may be making a comeback, however.

 

Kirayoshi

If nothing else they have some issues to burn off.

 

Amokitty

Oh sure, db. rub it in!!! ;)

 

J_Harper

Well, the shows called Wolverine. Like we don't get enough of the punk.

 

xakko

how much power do Yost and Kyle have???

 

Lia

There's no Scott and Jean in the promo pic, so maybe Kitty and Peter will be the main romantic couple in the mansion.

 

Kirayoshi

I'm curious about this Arcanna mini.

 

db91939

more like rib it in

 

db91939

lol. I'm clever

 

MadR

Snort, with the way the DC guys used Justice League Unlimited to wrap up Batman Beyond, I'm hoping we get a little kiotr in Wolverine.

 

Kirayoshi

As long as Lance isn't a regular.

 

Amokitty

For those who don't know it, Darkbat is joining us this evening! :)

 

J_Harper

Lia, can you send me the link through IM? I can't access through the chatroom.

 

Kirayoshi

So far tonight's been a bigger turnout than usual for our merry band.

 

Lia

Sure. Hold on a sec

 

db91939

when does this show premier?

 

J_Harper

Thanks.

 

Amokitty

This was an important issue so maybe that's why?

 

Amokitty

I heard it was this Fall. We'll see.

 

Kirayoshi

Plus Peter finally gets the spotlight!

 

db91939

in the show?

 

xakko

one he'd really rather shy from

 

Amokitty

*sigh* Finally! Now that Joss' run is all but over! *rolls eyes*

 

Kirayoshi

Never trust anyone who wants to be a messiah.

 

MadR

Astonishing is driving me crazy.

 

Amokitty

Oh god, me too!

 

db91939

I'm getting a little irritated at the fact that they're putting so much space between issues

 

db91939

they'd make SO much more money if it was a monthly

 

Kirayoshi

Anyone read Joss's Runaways?

 

MadR

Advance the plot already.

 

Amokitty

Blame Quesada for the delays. It's all his fault now.

 

db91939

who?

 

melodyrider

I did

 

db91939

remember back in the day when every panel had dialogue and plot and junk?

 

xakko

since Joss has gotten 5 comics out since the last time we saw Astonishing?

 

db91939

now half of the panels are just slight variations of the previous ones

 

MadR

We don't know what's going on with Lockheed and the beta team.

 

Lia

Why is he delaying it? So he can kept connecting Whedon's name to the X-Men as long as possible?

 

darkstorm5000

I've been reading Runaways since Joss took over

 

J_Harper

I just picked them up. Haven't read 'em yet. Not thrilled about them getting dragged into the Civil War's aftermath.

 

Amokitty

Joe Quesada, Marvel's Editor in Chief.

 

db91939

oh

 

db91939

why should I blame him?

 

Kirayoshi

[South Park]Blame Quesada! Blame Quesada![/South Park]

 

J_Harper

Heh.

 

Amokitty

Long stupid story short, it's so Cassaday can work on another more important book. Fallen Son.

 

MadR

We don't know the exact wording of the prophecy, and in JW's 'verses, that's always been a major clue.

 

db91939

has that come otu yet?

 

Amokitty

*sings along with, K*

 

J_Harper

Fallen Son Avengers and Fallen Son Wolverine are out.

 

Kirayoshi

And normally I'm not a South Park fan!

 

Amokitty

Nope not yet1

 

MadR

And we don't know who Cassandra Nova's taken over.

 

J_Harper

I picked up Avengers. Don't know why, really.

 

Amokitty

I think it's Fallen Son: Iron Man.

 

Kirayoshi

J, I know you've given up on CBR, but there was an informative thread last week about John Romita Jr..

 

Kirayoshi

And JRJR even joined the thread.

 

J_Harper

Oh?

 

Amokitty

Really?

 

Lia

Cassandra Nova is most likely in Danger. They even drew Danger different this issue, so her face looked like Cassandras in her safari hat.

 

db91939

oooh

 

J_Harper

I thought her form changed.

 

db91939

that'd be awesome

 

db91939

so did I

 

db91939

she looks more mannish

 

J_Harper

As long as it isn't Kitty...

 

Kirayoshi

One thing I'll say in defense of CBRF, some respectable pros have posted on the book.

 

Amokitty

Never thought of that, Lia! Interesting. Both want the X-Men dead.

 

J_Harper

It's moderation is a joke.

 

db91939

she also wouldn't have to worry about going bald...

 

Amokitty

LOL.

 

Kirayoshi

Might make sense regarding a final showdown between Emma and Nova, if Nova's really in there.

 

Lia

Hee hee. Cassandra did show an interest in good hair...

 

MadR

Hee!

 

xakko

interesting theory, Lia... totally awesome, too

 

J_Harper

Hunn would have been permabanned in under a week if he ranted like that on RPG.Net.

 

Amokitty

VERY disappointed at what trolls get away with at CBR.

 

J_Harper

Well, let's move away from that. Nut to 'em.

 

Amokitty

*cracks up*

 

Kirayoshi

I'll not argue that, mon ami.

 

xakko

quite frankly, i couldn't be bothered at this point

 

Kirayoshi

I tend to avoid those threads anyway.

 

Kirayoshi

Life's too short to get riled up.

 

db91939

I tell ya, though, it's so difficult to concentrate on homework and chatting when there's Russell Crowe on tv

 

Kirayoshi

Ah, the future Sherrif of Nottingham.

 

Amokitty

Multi-tasker, are we?

 

db91939

very multi

 

Kirayoshi

Crowe's playing the Sherrif in a new movie by Ridley Scott.

 

db91939

that's awesome

 

J_Harper

I use to be able to do that. I miss being able to do that. :/

 

Kirayoshi

Read this on rottentomatoes.com.

 

db91939

I didn't know they were making another Robin movie

 

Amokitty

I noticed most Colossus/Kiotr fans do indeed ignore the threads. No way to win anyone over anyway.

 

Lia

I never liked Russell Crowe. Except for the version on South Park..

 

Kirayoshi

In this movie the Sherrif is the protagonist and Robin is more of a troublemaker.

 

MadR

Cool. Can't be worse than BBCamerica's current Robin Hood

 

db91939

I hope it's as silly and swashbuckling as the Errol Flynn version

 

db91939

and much better than the Costner version...

 

J_Harper

I want another Master and Commander film. The books put me to sleep, but I loved The Far Side of the World.

 

db91939

I LOVED that movie

 

Kirayoshi

Give me Connery and Hepburn any day!

 

db91939

it's the very essence of manliness!

 

J_Harper

Errol Flynn. 'Nuf said.

 

Amokitty

hear, hear, Kirayoshi!

 

db91939

Master and Commander, The Great Escape, and The Godfather are the manliest movies ever made

 

db91939

and maybe The 300

 

Kirayoshi

Worst version I ever saw had Patrick Bergan as Robin Hood and Uma Thurman as Marian.

 

Amokitty

Errol Flynn and Tyrone Power.... *sigh*

 

Kirayoshi

The guy who played Julia Roberts' psycho husband in "Sleeping With the Enemy" as Robin Hood.

 

db91939

God I love the 300... need to see that again

 

MadR

I'd love to see Crowe play Laurence in the Termeraire books, since the character was based on him from Master And Commander. Hope Peter Jacksons still doing the movies....

 

Kirayoshi

So you'll understand if I'm more charatable toward the BBC version.

 

J_Harper

I just read a book I think Kitty would love.

 

Kirayoshi

Bergan makes that guy look like Errol!

 

db91939

lol

 

Amokitty

Those are the Regency period dragon books right, Rose?

 

MadR

I couldn't get past the green eyeshadow and the frisbee sword on the BBC version.

 

db91939

frisbee sword?

 

MadR

Yep, the fangirl went pro/Napoleanic wars on dragonback books

 

Kirayoshi

Hey, BBC is treating Robin Hood the way Sam Raimi treated Greek Myth in Xena.

 

db91939

lol

 

Kirayoshi

Keep a stranglehold on that and you can have fun with it.

 

db91939

I'd also love to see a good King Arthur movie

 

db91939

I HATED this last one

 

Kirayoshi

Excalibur by John Boorman.

 

Kirayoshi

Nuff Said.

 

db91939

yeah?

 

MadR

In the first RH ep, Robin throws a sword straight up, it turns longwise and hits two bad guys in the head on the way down.

 

J_Harper

Amazing how someone can be so limber in plate armour...

 

Amokitty

OMG. That was the definitive Arthur. Helen Mirren kicked ass, too!

 

J_Harper

Heh.

 

Kirayoshi

And I loved Nigel Hawthorne as Merlin!

 

db91939

they're all like "Well, this version is closer to what the real King Arthur would have been like." and I'm like... .yeah. a woman running around in a bikini top with war paint. very realistic to that time period

 

Kirayoshi

Plus, Patrick Stewart was in there somewhere!

 

Amokitty

Yes! And Liam Neeson and Patrick Stewart...! I loved it!!!

 

Kirayoshi

Liam was in there?

 

Amokitty

Yeah, what he said! ;)

 

J_Harper

He was Gawain.

 

Amokitty

Yes, he was!!!

 

Kirayoshi

I'm gonna have to look that up!

 

Kirayoshi

Really!

 

db91939

oooh

 

Kirayoshi

Kewl!

 

db91939

Liam Neeson...

 

J_Harper

Who deserved a lot better than he got in the film. I always prefered Gaiwan to that French pratt Lancelot. ;)

 

db91939

heh

 

Amokitty

Schindler's List - Liam Neeson, db. ;)

 

Kirayoshi

If someone wants to see a 'historical' Arthur done right, check out Jack Whyte's Camulod Chronicles.

 

db91939

oh I know

 

db91939

I'm in love with Liam

 

Kirayoshi

Basically did the Disney King Arthur movie, only he did it right.

 

db91939

and my love was multiplied 100 times when he was Aslan

 

Lia

He was Asian?

 

Kirayoshi

Next summer, Prince Caspian!

 

Amokitty

I swear to god, I just read the tale of Gaain and Dame Ragnelle. Just the other day!

 

db91939

Aslan, the Lion

 

db91939

Next summer!

 

J_Harper

Yup. Aslan's voice.

 

Amokitty

Gawain....

 

db91939

awesome.

 

db91939

I LOVED how they did the lion the witch and the wardrobe

 

Lia

Oh, totally read that wrong. That makes a lot more sense.

 

db91939

it was perfect

 

db91939

lol

 

xakko

but John Cleese was an amazing Lancelot

 

db91939

Spamalot?

 

Kirayoshi

Now would someone please do a live-action Discworld movie?

 

xakko

"I must do it in my own..." "Idiom, sir!" "Idiom!"

 

J_Harper

My name is Lancelot, I'm big and strong and hot, and occasionally I do, things that I should not!

 

Kirayoshi

"Message for you, sir."

 

db91939

oh... Python

 

xakko

no, the original Monty Python and the Holy Grail

 

db91939

you know I've never seen that movie the whole way through?

 

Amokitty

LOL. :D  Who doesn't love Holy Grail??

 

xakko

it was Hank Azaria as Lancelot on Broadway. it was my least favorite part of the play

 

db91939

I get too drunk and either pass out or go running around outside before the end.

 

Kirayoshi

You must bring me--a SHRUBBERY!

 

Amokitty

*dies laughing!!!

 

MadR

It's been too long since I've seen any Python....got to check the library.....

 

Lia

I much preferred the parts of Spamelot with David Hyde Pierce. Especially his ideas of how to succeed on Broadway.

 

Amokitty

*makes clop clop noises on a coconut...*

 

db91939

I think the farthest I've gotten is when Galahad is in the convent

 

Kirayoshi

Are you saying that coconuts migrate?

 

J_Harper

Here's a question - how many of the ladies here squealed when they saw the SCENE in Astonishing 21? ;)

 

xakko

of the cast, it was reall Tim Curry who disappointed

 

db91939

I will add that to my Blockbuster queue

 

Kirayoshi

I can keep this up all night!

 

xakko

(not really, but compared to the others...)

 

MadR

I made a noice that only dolphins can hear

 

db91939

I didn't squeal. because her expression freaked me out

 

Amokitty

*raises hand*

 

Kirayoshi

So long and thanks for all the fish, Mad?

 

db91939

heh

 

db91939

I actually know what that's from! woo hoo!

 

Amokitty

Who here doesn't love Adams???

 

Kirayoshi

Oh who doesn't?

 

db91939

well, I haven't read the book. but I saw the movie. don't really remember what it was about... we snuk a flask in.

 

db91939

ah to be in high school again...

 

Amokitty

I was shocked out of my mind with that scene. I pray it's not their last romantic scene together!!!

 

xakko

who here is probabaly a little too obsessed with Douglas Adams to the point where they bought a Dodo puppet...

 

Kirayoshi

See the movie, read the book, get the TV show on Netflix, heck you could probably find the radio show on CD somewhere!

 

db91939

I hope they don't get married too soon though

 

db91939

that'd just... ick.

 

Kirayoshi

Anyone here ever read "Last Chance to See?"

 

Amokitty

Mark loves Dodo with all of his boy's heart! Aw.

 

MadR

I'm glad Kitty's getting over the mindmessing....

 

db91939

as am I

 

J_Harper

That is heartening.

 

xakko

yes, K... it's amazing.

 

MadR

Still nervous that it's JW setting us up for tragedy.

 

xakko

i almost bid on the CD-Rom to that, even though it would never run on this system

 

db91939

so does anyone have some awesome ff projects that I can look forward to?

 

Amokitty

As am I, Rose. The scene is emotional, and I'm waiting for the axe to fall.

 

db91939

I'm so sick of sifting through bad fanfiction

 

Kirayoshi

I'm stalling a little on Family Reunion.

 

MadR

I've been awful about writing lately, need to get back on schedule...

 

Kirayoshi

I need a good plot for Nicholai, plus I really don't want to kill off Daniel.

 

Amokitty

Why, K?

 

Kirayoshi

I will if I have to, but I'd rather not do a shock-value death if i don't have to.

 

MadR

Rasputin could always be exorcised.

 

db91939

ah

 

Kirayoshi

I have the pieces set up, I just need a good plot for the villain.

 

Kirayoshi

I said Nicholai, I meant Gregorii.

 

J_Harper

World Conquest. That never gets old. ;)

 

Kirayoshi

Gee, Gregorii, what do you want to do tonight?

 

db91939

you'd think that villains could be a little less ambitious

 

Kirayoshi

The same think I do everynight, Anastasia, TRY TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!

 

xakko

some are. those are usually petty thieves

 

J_Harper

I've been working on original fiction recently, though I may take a break. I think I'm writing a dog right now.

 

Amokitty

Rasputin was very much into earthly possesions, so why not? Not to mention earthly pleasures...

 

xakko

Bartok, K, Bartok!

 

Kirayoshi

I'm looking forward to doing a big Kim Possible/Lupin brawl.

 

Amokitty

*giggles*

 

Lia

Does anyone read Birds of Prey? Gail Simone is using almost the same plot line as Bloodlines.

 

Amokitty

Oh please tell, Lia!

 

xakko

really? gah!

 

Kirayoshi

I stumbled onto a very good Kim Possible fanfic, which may be the strangest crossover ever.

 

MadR

Yeah, World Domination seemed to be part of the plan in Bloodlines.

 

melodyrider

What is it, K?

 

Kirayoshi

Kim Possible/Thomas Pynchon's Gravity's Rainbow

 

Amokitty

Good lord!

 

Kirayoshi

It's called "Until the End of the World"

 

Kirayoshi

And don't laugh, it works!

 

J_Harper

I read a Pokemon fic once that had Jesse and James performing waiting for Godot. It was called waiting for Meowth.

 

Kirayoshi

Mainly because Kim and Ron know about as much about Tyrone Slothrop as the casual fanfic reader.

 

Amokitty

Who's the villain in BoP, Lia?

 

MadR

I just found the My Little Pony/Justice League crossover again. Unfinished, but hysterical

 

Kirayoshi

I also saw a crossover between Angel and C. S. Lewis's Screwtape Letters.

 

Amokitty

You're kidding.

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Lia

It's not a major comic villian, just a member of the Russian government. But he has the Secret Six working for him. And Harley Quinn./

 

db91939

sorry, my roommate disconnected our internet

 

db91939

I love Harley Quinn

 

MadR

Harley Quinn...and Rasputin?

 

Amokitty

Harley Quinn. Of course!

 

Lia

She's so cute. The best thing to come out of the Batman animated series.

 

Kirayoshi

OY!

 

Kirayoshi

Heard a rumor that Quinn may be appearing in the sequel to Batman Begins

 

J_Harper

Well, she's a better borrow that X-23 is, that's for sure.

 

Kirayoshi

And that Sarah Michelle Gellar may be playing her.

 

J_Harper

Actually, I like Harley very much. She's a wonderful character.

 

Lia

Yeah, the rumor is Sarah Michelle Gellar is playing her.

 

db91939

I hate x23

 

db91939

hate her hate her hate her

 

Lia

Oops. Kirayoshi beat me to it.:)

 

Kirayoshi

Loved the MTU where Spider-man met X23.

 

Amokitty

The crossover with Angel and CS Lewis sounds extremely interesting K. Screwtape Letters is a favorite of mine. It helps when life gets tough.

 

J_Harper

:)

 

Kirayoshi

"Wolverine! My God, what did they do to you?"

 

J_Harper

I read that they cast Harvey Dent.

 

db91939

who?

 

J_Harper

Two Face.

 

db91939

I mean, who did they cast?

 

MadR

Hm. Can't quite see SMG as Harley....

 

J_Harper

Oh. Can't remember.

 

Kirayoshi

Amo, the crossover was essentially a letter from Screwtape to Holland Manners, toward the end of Season One, just when Angel first read the Sanshu prophecy.

 

db91939

Aaron Eckhart

 

J_Harper

Can SMG do manic?

 

db91939

yeah!

 

db91939

the rum is here!

 

Amokitty

Thanks, K!

 

db91939

time to make margueritas!

 

db91939

this was a fun chat, talk to you all later!

 

MadR

Arleen Sorkin was just too perfect in the DCAU.

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J_Harper

'Cause Harley's manic - happy and laughing all the time.

 

Amokitty

bye!

 

MadR

Bye Darkbat!

 

xakko

enjoy, darkbat!

 

J_Harper

Guess she really wants her Marguritas...

 

Kirayoshi

Later DB

 

Amokitty

But with rum? No tequila? Hmmmm.

 

Kirayoshi

YOU BURNT ALL THE RUM!

 

Amokitty

OMG, K! You're really on a roll! :D :D

 

Kirayoshi

Now it can be told, Darkbat is the reincarnation of Jack Sparrow!

 

Amokitty

Maybe Capt. Morgan if she's partial to rum? ;)

 

Kirayoshi

I'd love to see SMG break out of crappy remakes of Japanese horror myself.

 

Amokitty

The Grudge sucked all over the place. WHY was it successful?

 

Kirayoshi

Horror's in again.

 

darkstorm5000

I don't know, I couldn't sit through more than 15 minutes of it

 

Kirayoshi

What scares me is that Saw won't go away!

 

Kirayoshi

That's not horror, that's torture porn!

 

J_Harper

The Prince of Horror's first novel is going to be made into a movie.

 

Amokitty

DS! LOL. I had to sit and watch the whole damn thing! Poor me!

 

Kirayoshi

Which prince is that?

 

J_Harper

Joe Hill.

 

darkstorm5000

Lucky me then ::biggrin

 

Kirayoshi

Enlighten me.

 

Amokitty

Yeah, lucky you!!!!

 

J_Harper

His Stephen King's oldest son, and I swear he's better than his old man.

 

Amokitty

*sticks tongue out at DS*

 

Kirayoshi

Hm...could be interesting.

 

Amokitty

What is the movie called, Jeremy?

 

J_Harper

Admittedly, I"m not the biggest King fan, but I read Heart Shaped Box, and it was very good.

 

Kirayoshi

Movies based on King have been batting about .500

 

J_Harper

Heart Shaped Box, I'm assuming. It's been selling very well. Neil Gaiman said some very nice things about it, as well.

 

Kirayoshi

For every Misery or The Shining, we get a Dreamcatchers or Pet Semetary.

 

Kirayoshi

I just finished Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell.

 

Kirayoshi

Very cool book.

 

MadR

I couldn't get through it.

 

Kirayoshi

Someone make a movie out of that, huh?

 

Kirayoshi

Kinda like The Prestige, only with real magic instead of stage illusions.

 

MadR

Too long, teeny print

 

MadR

I've been reading the Dresden Files books after watching the series.

 

Kirayoshi

It started slow, but once I got past the first five chapters or so, I really got into it.

 

J_Harper

Well, like I said, I just finished a book I think Kitty would be raving about. It's called Webmage, and the premise is that magic is a lot like computer programming and hacking, and the protagonist is the grandson of the Greek Goddess of Destiny.

 

Amokitty

Mark LOVES Dresden Files, but I can't seem to. Can't explain why either.

 

Kirayoshi

Sounds interesting.

 

Kirayoshi

I'm still working my way through Discworld myself.

 

J_Harper

It reminded me of the Dresden books, but I think its better written. Though on second though, it reminds me a bit more of Zelanzy's Amber books than the Dresden books.

 

Kirayoshi

I figure I'm gonna buy one Discworld book a month until I get caught up.

 

MadR

I couldn't get into the books at first, but the tc show was better. Terrance Mann stole the show as Bob the Skull.

 

MadR

Ooh, which Discworld books are you reading?

 

Amokitty

I think both Kitty and Peter might have some latent magical talent. Always have. For Peter it's his birthright, for Kitty it's due to her connection with Illyana.

 

J_Harper

I glutted myself on them. I bought three of them on my vacation with Lia.

 

Kirayoshi

Just finished Guards Guards and Pyramids

 

J_Harper

Dresden, not Discworld.

 

Kirayoshi

Love Vimes!

 

Kirayoshi

Oh sorry

 

Amokitty

Yes he did, Rose! Mann is one of the best things about it.

 

Lia

I always thought Kitty might have some relation to Saturnine or Roma, due to their fixation on her.

 

MadR

Still wanna write the Lockheed/ Lady Sybil's Home for Displaced Dragons crossover. So many plotbunnies, so little time

 

Kirayoshi

Roma was kind of playing the whole X-Men mythos during that time.

 

xakko

there's some evidence Kitty may be an analogue to Satyrnine (*sp)

 

Amokitty

I've been meaning to post the Excalibur issues with "Courtney" and Kitty, Lia. There is something going on that Claremont never got to address.

 

xakko

even as Courteney Ross definitely is

 

J_Harper

Claremont really loved to give Kitty goodies, though I'll admit I don't know how much of a goodie being related to Satyrnine would be.

 

Kirayoshi

Claremont wanted to get Jim Jaspers as the lead villain in Fall of the Mutants, and the Fury as the reason for teh Morlock Massacre.

 

Kirayoshi

But Alan Moore threw a fit when Jaspers did a cameo in Magneto's trial.

 

Kirayoshi

Around MM/FotM, a lot of the Captain Britain supporting cast showed up.

 

Kirayoshi

Until finally Cap and Meggan, along with some of their rogue's gallery, were part of Excalibur.

 

Amokitty

Did anybody ever notice the Excalibur ish that shows Kitty as Courtney in an AU, and her boyfriend Capt. Britain looked like a cross between Peter and an Indian? What was up with that??

 

Kirayoshi

Was that Warren Ellis's book?

 

Kirayoshi

Same book showed Kitty as a nun, a homeless and a dominatrix, IIRC.

 

Lia

I never paid much attention to her boyfriend. I'm gonna go look that up now!

 

Amokitty

EXcalibur #20 - something i think....

 

Amokitty

Maybe #22??

 

Kirayoshi

I read in Wikipedia that Kitty was originally going to destroy the Fury, only to go into phased state during the MM.

 

Amokitty

I think that was Excal #103, K. Ellis' last issue IIRC.

 

Lia

I think 23, the one with her in front of a wanted poster, right?

 

Kirayoshi

Colossus was going to pull through all right, but would agree to stay with Kitty and Kurt as a bodyguard.

 

Kirayoshi

Oh, and Kitty was going to have a huge crush on Brian Braddock, much to Peter's chagrin.

 

Amokitty

The Judge Dred one, Lia? I think you might be right.

 

Kirayoshi

Oh, Kitty the Kingpin?

 

Amokitty

Memory sucks unfortunately...

 

Amokitty

BRB.

 

J_Harper

I hear crickets... ;)

 

Amokitty

Back! anyone miss me already? ;)

 

xakko

of course

 

MadR

Haven't caught up past the third Excalibur trade, so.....

 

Kirayoshi

I broke down and bought the Alan Moore Captain Britain TPB

 

Amokitty

Awww....

 

xakko

but my scope will come in any week now

 

Kirayoshi

Jim Jaspers was a freaky villain.

 

MadR

have nothing to say here.

 

Amokitty

Good for you, K! It's really good, isn't it?

 

Kirayoshi

I could almost see him as the puppeteer behind the SHRA.

 

J_Harper

I've been toying around with the idea for a Pirate Kitty story.

 

Amokitty

Now that IS freaky.

 

Kirayoshi

Favorite line was when Jaspers was speaking to the Crazy Gang.

 

Amokitty

Oooooooh. Pirate Kitty? :D

 

MadR

Oh, a Pirate Kitty story? Cool!

 

Kirayoshi

Now that could be fun!

 

J_Harper

Yeah, don't know if anything will come of it. I've just reread all of Howard's Conan, and I'd like to write something of a swashbuckler.

 

Kirayoshi

Shades of that Pirate Kitty segue Kitty was telling Peter in Muir?

 

J_Harper

But you know how it is with stories.

 

Amokitty

I love Astonishing, but oh how I miss a lighthearted Kitty and Peter!

 

MadR

Sighs, yes. Sometimes the idea won't work on paper.

 

J_Harper

No, not really, I'm afraid. I don't think I could give Lia's story justice.

 

J_Harper

She wrote that part.

 

Kirayoshi

Back to Jaspers: "I made you. I made everything, actually. I made the sky. I made the tiger and the lamb. I pt the bop in the bopshebopshebop and the ram in the ramalamadingdong!"

 

Amokitty

I wondered if she did! It was sweet and very emotional.

 

J_Harper

My sweetie is very talented. :)

 

Kirayoshi

Then Fury chases Captain Britain, and Jaspers quips, "Well, I don't remember making that!"

 

xakko

so we've noticed, J.

 

Amokitty

Lia, what would it take for you and Jeremy to collaborate on a story again? We're not above begging, you know.

 

Lia

And my sweetie is very sweet. Hence the nickname!

 

xakko

* on his knees, even

 

J_Harper

It'll happen when it happens.

 

Amokitty

Claremont might possibly do justice to ol Mad Jim. Shame he didn't get to.

 

Lia

When we both have the time.

 

J_Harper

Pretty much. 9 to 5 jobs suck. :/

 

Kirayoshi

He may get his chance.

 

Kirayoshi

He did bring back the Fury.

 

Amokitty

I'd be happy to see him pop up in Exiles.

 

Kirayoshi

He'd make a great uber-villain for that team.

 

MadR

Speaking of the Good Ol' Days O Fic.....wonder whatever happened to Gervaise? SP. Minion, and Jovianna Von doom....

 

Amokitty

No kidding! Especially now that Roma's involved.

 

Kirayoshi

Not to mention Happy Phantom/Dear Professor Xavier

 

Kirayoshi

Although admittedly Peter doesn't look too good in that one.

 

Amokitty

I've wondered too, Rose! I've been meaning to e-mail Gevaisa to find out if/when she'll finish Minion.

 

J_Harper

Folks, I'm going to bow out now. I didn't sleep well last night, and I"m starting to fade.

 

Kirayoshi

Later, J.

 

Amokitty

Yeah, K, but since Erik MUST be the hero, then Peter obviously is in the way. always thought he's make a great Raoul.

 

melodyrider

Night, J

 

Lia

Bye honey!

 

MadR

G'nite Jeremy

 

J_Harper

G'night all.

 

Amokitty

Good night, Jeremy! Thank you for coming!

 

Kirayoshi

I could see him as Raoul later in the story.

 

darkstorm5000

Goodnight

 

J_Harper

G'night sweetie!

 

Amokitty

Take care, and write more please!

 

xakko

g'nite jeremy

 

Amokitty

:D

 

Kirayoshi

Cya, J.

 

J_Harper

Yesh, I'll try. Can't leave you all hot and bothered with the incomplete smut. ;)

 

Amokitty

Precisely. :D

 

J_Harper

Take care. :) G' night.

 

Amokitty

Night!

  J_Harper left.

 

 

Amokitty

Lia, what did you think of Astonishing? Anything not wonderful in it?

 

Kirayoshi

Disparaging lack of Hisako, considering she was on the cover!

 

Amokitty

DS, Mel, what did you think?

 

Amokitty

Oh I thought so too! What was the point of having Armor on the cover is she barely has line?

 

darkstorm5000

Loved the Wolvie/Hisako entrance, with Hisako driving the 'space-bike'

 

Amokitty

IF she barely has a line...

 

Lia

I liked it, but it was disjointed. I don't think Whedon has mastered writting in comic form yet. The cliffhanger was a little confusing.

 

melodyrider

I really liked it, actually. A much better middle chapter than the stuff in Dangerous or Torn

 

MadR

She's an X Man now, maybe? And that's why she's on the cover?

 

darkstorm5000

I think it would flow better, if it were actually being published on an actual monthly schedule

 

Amokitty

I wonder what Hellion, X-23 and Santos will make of that? Assuming hisako lives.

 

Kirayoshi

Anyone else think that the X-writers wrote themselves in a corner with the 'no more mutants' thing?

 

MadR

They really wrote themselves into a corner. Stupid stunts.

 

melodyrider

A monthly schedule would make it way better. Are they planning to keep it bimonthly straight through issue 24?

 

Kirayoshi

Hopefully this Extinction arc will undo some damage on that score.

 

Amokitty

I liked the Beast/Brand scene, but it felt out of place with the rest of the story.

 

Kirayoshi

I think mutant births should be rare but not impossible.

 

Kirayoshi

Brand is really Shego.

 

darkstorm5000

At least better odds than hitting the lottery

 

Lia

Does anyone else think Whedons run will end with Kitty being pregnant, and that's one of the plot lines of Extinction?

 

xakko

that would be awesome, Lia, but I doubt it.

 

darkstorm5000

That would be an interesting way to go

 

Amokitty

I like that idea a hellava lot! Just don't kill Colossus!

 

Kirayoshi

I thought Extinction was supposed to take place before the AXM arc.

 

xakko

although, someone theorized that the reason for the delays is that very thing- that it was vitally important for Astonishing to end concurrent to the X-event, and that's why Cassiday was pushed to do Fallen Son

 

Kirayoshi

Which may be why it's bimonthly; so the rest of the books can catch up.

 

darkstorm5000

I don't think anyone at Marvel knows where their continuity is supposed to fit anymore

 

Amokitty

I think there is a reason that Joss is showing them in lovemaking scenes. I think pregnancy is a possiblility. IF he lets Kitty live.

 

melodyrider

Children of Mutants, anyone?

 

Kirayoshi

Kitty does look a little like Julianne Moore, don't she?

 

Lia

I think he will. I think this is his OTP too, and he wants them to stay together even after he's gone. The only way to tie them together permanently in Marvel is to make them have a child.

 

MadR

I'm not really sure how the No More Mutants thing is supposed to work....Kitty and Piotr having a 'normal' child and the lock on mutation being lifted for his/her siblings could be really interesting, or a cliche....

 

Amokitty

I've said before that I think we'll have either a wedding or a funeral. Lord, I want a wedding!

 

darkstorm5000

"Everybody place your bets..."

 

xakko

making Kitty pregnant would, if Marvel were consistant about their sliding time scale, take her out of action for at least a year, probably two... I know if I were Piotr, I would be very worried about taking my unborn child into battle...

 

Amokitty

Some are even suggesting now maybe Scott and Emma get hitched. *choke!*

 

Kirayoshi

She can phase, how much safer can she be?

 

MadR

Or we could get a phasing miscarriage story....

 

darkstorm5000

I hope for a Kitty/Piotr wedding too, becaust there have been WAY too many funerals in the X-Verse for this decade

 

Kirayoshi

I dunno

 

Kirayoshi

There's always Rachel and that dork she's hanging with in UXM currently.

 

melodyrider

Or, the easiest, quickest, most painless labor in history

 

Amokitty

More likely a funeral though. A LOT of heroes are supposed to show up at the end of Joss' run. That spells wedding or funeral to me.

 

Lia

If I had it my way, Scott would back down from headmaster due to guilt over letting Emma have too much power (after he dumps her and rips out her heart, of course!) and Kitty can take over as headmaster of the school while Peter stays on the battle team.

 

Amokitty

Lia, when oh when will Jeremy or you write, "Emma Gets Hit By A Bus and Dies"???

 

xakko

Korvus - reason #145 I am glad I don't read Brubaker's X-men

 

darkstorm5000

If it were me, I'd go so far as to bring Dani back as Headmaster. Unlike the others, she could actually focus more of her time on running the school, and less on super-heroing

 

Lia

Emma Gets Hit By A Bus and Dies is only part one in a series. There's just so many chapters to write!

 

Amokitty

So true, DS. What wrong with editorial anyway? Why is Dani in Avengers now????

 

Kirayoshi

More Emma bashing?

 

Lia

Like there could ever be enough!

 

Kirayoshi

Maybe she decided to go pro-reg to honk off the X-Men after the shoddy way they treated her after HoM.

 

Amokitty

Lia, I'm dying to read it!!!!! REALLY.

 

xakko

because Dan Slott doesn't think she should be going to waste?

 

Amokitty

Good point.

 

Kirayoshi

I'd love to see a story where one of the depowered mutants emerges as the poster-child for an anti-mutant movement.

 

Kirayoshi

Where he or she would be all, "I was a mutant but now I'm saved!"

 

MadR

There's some movieverse fanfic like that.

 

Amokitty

Well we know it won't be Jubilee! LOL.

 

Kirayoshi

I dunno, last we saw of her, she was being carted off by SHIELD, right?

 

Amokitty

I missed that. She's with SHIELD?

 

Kirayoshi

It would be just like Anita Hill to brainwash her into being an obediant mutant-hating little puppet, wouldn't it?

 

Kirayoshi

In Wolverine's book.

 

Kirayoshi

I think.

 

darkstorm5000

Yep, The crappy one

 

Amokitty

Ha!

 

Kirayoshi

There's a non-crappy Wolverine book?

 

Kirayoshi

I mean, other than AXM.

 

darkstorm5000

Matter of opinion, I guess. But, I stand by my statement

 

Amokitty

Logan is barely in AXM. but i'm wagering he'll be on the next cover.

 

xakko

some people like New Avengers.

 

xakko

but Bendis lost me with "The Collective"

 

Kirayoshi

Ironically he writes the only decent Ultimate book.

 

Kirayoshi

I still loved the issue where MJ gave Peter that love letter.

 

Amokitty

Is Loeb doing a good job on Wolverine? I haven't been following it, so I've wondered.

 

xakko

i haven't heard so, no.

 

darkstorm5000

It's been okay. Rahne showed up last issue

 

Kirayoshi

Is she depowered? I lost track.

 

Amokitty

Well that's a good thing then.

 

Amokitty

She's powered in X-Factor.

 

darkstorm5000

Nah, she's powered and usually with X-Factor

 

xakko

with a scary wolf head!

 

Kirayoshi

Ah.

 

Kirayoshi

She's a furry.

 

Kirayoshi

Sorry, too much CSI

 

MadR

Hee!

 

Amokitty

I'm still not liking the fact that Ultimate Kitty and MJ are rivals. And it's weird that she's not in Ultimate X-men anymore.

 

Kirayoshi

I still loved the Rocky Horror episode of Cold Case!

 

MadR

CSI's starting to jump the shark though

 

Kirayoshi

Any show that's been around for more than 3 years will be accused of jumping the shark.

 

Kirayoshi

I recently discovered there's a term for the opposite of Jumping the Shark.

 

darkstorm5000

I'd like to see Ultimate Kitty involved in a storyline where she isn't the 'other woman'

 

MadR

Too much Sara/Gil...and the end of the last episode had me flailing.

 

Amokitty

Exactly, DS.  It doesn't feel right.

 

Kirayoshi

We had one in Excalibur, DS, where she was the focus of a love triangle.

 

Kirayoshi

It's just that no one here likes Pete Wisdom

 

MadR

Is there an Ulitmate Pete Wisdom?

 

Amokitty

Except Mel. I think he does. :)

 

Kirayoshi

I know, I brought up He Who Must Not Be Named.

 

Kirayoshi

I like Pete. Just not with Kitty.

 

Amokitty

Oh Wisdom is fine! Just not with Kitty that's all.

 

Amokitty

ha!

 

Kirayoshi

Jinx you owe me a soda,

 

xakko

Voldemort?

 

Amokitty

How many is that now...?  ;)

 

xakko

*blinkblink

 

Amokitty

:D

 

xakko

Wisdom is refreshingly easy to write, except I don't know enough british slang to keep it believable I fear

 

MadR

So what's the opposite of jumping the shark?

 

xakko

diving under the lion?

 

Kirayoshi

Currently i just imagine him as being played by Christopher Eccleston in Heroes.

 

Kirayoshi

The phrase is "Growing the Beard"

 

Lia

How'd they come up with that?

 

Kirayoshi

It refers to a show that, after stumbling for a season or two, finds its footing.

 

Kirayoshi

From Star Trek TNG; it's believed that the show's improvement coincided with Riker sporting a beard.

 

Amokitty

From what little I've seen I'm not caring for the Wisdom mini, but critics love it. He's married to a fairy, cheating on her with someone else, and in his mind cheating on both of them by mooning over Kitty. Weird.

 

melodyrider

I've learned to like him, but when I first saw him I thought he was nothing more than a cheep Gambit knockoff

 

xakko

which critics?

 

Kirayoshi

Cheating on a fairy? Ooh dangerous stuff there Pete.

 

Kirayoshi

Just ask half the cast of Books of Magic!

 

Kirayoshi

Or several prominent fairy tale protagonists.

 

Amokitty

From various comic sites that I've been to, Xak.

 

MadR

Didn't get the mini, but Wisdom's pretty interesting in the New Excalibur in Camelot trade....butt of the jokes.

 

xakko

hrmmm.

 

MadR

And the idea of Wisdom pissing off one of the Gentry can only lead to hijinks, I agree.

 

Amokitty

Know what's funny, Rose? It's like almost everyone HATES the Wisdom rendition on New Excal.

 

Kirayoshi

Anyone interested in the Stardust movie in August?

 

Amokitty

Oh yeah, and Cornell's got Wisdom wearing a lime green suit. Saw it on scans_daily.

 

MadR

The Wisdom fans? Because he might have driven Guinievere into Lancelot's arms, and the 'he keeps thinking he's in charge' moments from Sage?

 

xakko

moderately... it looks like there's major deviation from the story

 

xakko

well, most NEX fans hated the Tieri run

 

Kirayoshi

Oh like that's never happened, Xak?

 

Amokitty

Yeah, it's the Wisdom fans Rose.

 

Amokitty

I'd like to see a Colossus mini done right. I'm worried as all get out for the new Yost/Hairsine Colossus book.

 

Lia

Is that supposed to be his origin story?

 

xakko

me too.

 

Amokitty

Yep!

 

Kirayoshi

I'm hearing there'

 

Kirayoshi

there's supposed to be two Colossus books in the works.

 

Amokitty

I want to see something fresh and new. Not convolute his origin further. Hine already mucked with it. They need to leave it alone.

 

xakko

there's a debate

 

Lia

The good thing about the minis is that they probably wouldn't be writing stories about a character they're killing or sending to comic Limbo

 

Kirayoshi

A positive sign, I'll admit.

 

Amokitty

Which of course makes me worry for Kitty that much more!

 

xakko

::sad

 

MadR

Well, if they do something awful in canon we can always ignore it.

 

Kirayoshi

I ignore your reality and replace it with my own!

 

xakko

thank you, Adam Savage

 

MadR

I've got enough material to write fanfic for years without going AU.

 

Kirayoshi

I wonder where that quote came from.

 

xakko

well, actually, Adam said, "I reject your reality..."

 

MadR

Isn't it on one of his teeshirts? unless it was made after he said it?

 

Kirayoshi

I gotta get that tshirt!

 

xakko

i think he said it first - it was in the promos or opening credits first, i think

 

Amokitty

I'd like to know if anyone has any hints/spoilers/info for any upcoming stories or chapters they'd like to share. Everyone here has an ongoing project, so please give any crumbs you'd like to keep us fans going. It would be most appreciated!

 

Amokitty

Plot bunnies, ideas, anything. :)

 

Kirayoshi

I'm still working on my own.

 

melodyrider

God, I feel so guilty about mine being late

 

xakko

"betrayal"

 

Amokitty

Ooooh, Xak. Sounds mighty good!

 

darkstorm5000

Chapter after next of Connections features some more Iceman/Firestar interaction

 

Kirayoshi

I thought you were waiting for future X-books to figure out continuty, Mel.

 

Amokitty

Yay, DS!!

 

Kirayoshi

Ah, the Amazing Friends!

 

darkstorm5000

Oh, yeah...

 

Kirayoshi

Is it just me, or in that cartoon didn't Firestar look a lot like MJ?

 

Lia

I have an Evolution fic I play around with but never really written. It has Kitty and Peter meeting by chance at a park in Bayville after the Apocalypse pyramid fight. They start a friendship and a little bit of a flirtation.

 

Amokitty

It was never you, dear! Very obvious I thought.

 

xakko

it's not just you, K

 

darkstorm5000

I read that she was basically MJ with Human Torch's powers

 

melodyrider

There's some of that with the arc that follows issue 14, but I'm awfully close to closing this arc, and I'd really like to resolve all mysteries I set up at the start

 

MadR

....god help me, I've been tempted to write the Colossi-Chicks X Men Real People Fic. Mpreg.

 

Amokitty

I love Kitty and Peter in Evo! Their potential is enormous!

 

xakko

yeah, MR, we need closure!

 

Amokitty

Any hints for the next arc, Mel?

 

Amokitty

Rose, please write it. I'm dead serious.

 

melodyrider

Sure! and the one that follows that, if you'd like

 

Kirayoshi

I look forward to everything.

 

MadR

Maybe. I'm faintly horrified that I came up with the idea.

 

melodyrider

The next arc I have planned (assuming canon allows it) involves Kitty acting on the thoughts she had back in issue 1 about Mutant culture

 

Kirayoshi

Weirdest plot bunny I ever had was Peter telling Kitty a story about a knight who betrayed Camelot and later sought redemption protecting a princess who was betrothed to a boorish lord.

 

Amokitty

Lia, you'd be doing the fans a favor by writing the Kiotr Evo story. A lovely break from the angst would be wonderful! We need to see them not worrying about killing planets and whatnot. *begs*

 

MadR

Too much Stargate Atlantis slash crackfic.

 

melodyrider

She's going to try to talk Emma into allowing the school to have baseball games that are open to the public

 

Kirayoshi

Sort of Peter's answer to Kitty's Fairy Tale, casting himself, Kitty and Pete Wisdom in the leads.

 

melodyrider

I'd love to see that one, K!

 

MadR

Kirayoshi, ooh, that's a good one!

 

Amokitty

You know there's never any Kitty/Peter crack fic. There's a void that must be filled.

 

Lia

Thas's something I'd love to read, Kirayoshi!

 

Kirayoshi

Or Peter in a Film Noir setting, as a detective named Whitey Wolfe

 

xakko

lol

 

Lia

That's cute. :)

 

Kirayoshi

I just liked the name.

 

melodyrider

After that's I'm going to try to fix the problem with the Soul Sword not having that piece of 'Yana's soul anymore

 

MadR

The phasegasm just makes mpreg almost possible. If Kitty was on top, and had just concieved.....argh....

 

Amokitty

Whitey Wolf. *squeals* *dies*

 

xakko

well, have you heard the two soulsword theory?

 

melodyrider

No. What's that one?

 

xakko

that there are two swords, one Belasco owned in the past, made of "soul steel" - that gets delivered to Kitty for the Excalibur arc... and also, the one Illyana crafted.

 

Amokitty

Well Rose, I'm betting everything I've got that K and P didn't stop with only one time that night. There was catching up to do after all. ;)

 

xakko

there's a link, but i'd have to find it for you

 

MadR

That two soulsword theory would explain a few things.

 

Kirayoshi

She was giggling a little when he closed the door.

 

melodyrider

Sure thing Xakko

 

melodyrider

I'd be surprised Kitty wouldn't know the difference, though

 

MadR

I may write it as a standalone or fold it into Happily Ever After...since I've mentioned the kids writing X Men fanfic. Fanfic in fanfic, like my Evolution Kitty writing Viktor/Hermione.....

 

Amokitty

Great idea, Rose! Then there's no question of it working.

 

xakko

www.cuug.ab.ca/~lapierrs/creative/comics/2ssword.txt

 

darkstorm5000

Well guys, I'm going to call it a night a little early

 

Amokitty

I'm so glad you came tonight, DS!  :)

 

Lia

Bye Darkstorm. It was good talking with you!

 

Amokitty

Glad to know you haven't forgotten your story too! I've missed it!

 

melodyrider

Night, Darkstorm!

 

xakko

g'nite DS

 

MadR

Nite Darkstorm

 

Amokitty

Night! :)

 

Kirayoshi

At you later, DS

 

darkstorm5000

Thanks, as always I learned so much from everyone here. Goodnight!

 

Kirayoshi

And with that, I'd better be calling it a night as well.

 

Amokitty

TTYL.

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Kirayoshi

Peace out.

 

melodyrider

Good night, K!

 

Amokitty

Oh no not you too, K! Darn.

 

MadR

Nite Kirayshi

 

Kirayoshi

Later all.

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Lia

Night!

 

Amokitty

I'm really glad you came by.  :D

 

Amokitty

Will I never pick up on typing speed???? *sigh*

 

Amokitty

Sorry K!

 

Amokitty

So in Astonishing, Do you think any villains will die?

 

Lia

So does anyone know when the next Astonishing comes out?

 

melodyrider

I hope so. I can't think of a single one I ever want to see again

 

Amokitty

1st week in July.

 

MadR

Emma possibly. Ord, Powerlord Kruun. Maybe Brand

 

Amokitty

Mel! LOL.

 

Lia

I can definitly live without ever seeing the Breakworld or SWORD again.

 

xakko

SWORD might have potential

 

Lia

Thanks! That's not too bad a wait, long as editorial doesn't delay it.

 

Amokitty

I'm tired of Brand, sick of Ord, and puzzled with Danger. Wouldn't miss a one of 'em.

 

xakko

i just think that, worst comes to worst, the threat of the breakworld is easily stopped by Reed Richards

 

MadR

I hope Lockheed comes back and that's explained.

 

Amokitty

The delays have hurt this book. No doubt about it.

 

Lia

Who do you guys think will be left behind?

 

Amokitty

I'm not so sure anyone will be left behind. Better that than death though.

 

xakko

i fear we'll be disappointed re: Lockheed

 

xakko

we know for sure not everyone is coming back, unless Blindfold is wrong

 

melodyrider

I'm starting to lean toward Hisako. Most of her dialogue in this issue was about her being an full fledged X-Man now

 

MadR

Peter could be left behind, as new Powerlord, with or without Kitty. Like Kirayoshi's fic.

 

MadR

Maybe whoever Cassandra grabbed.

 

Amokitty

If Colossus stays then the story will start looking like Planet Hulk. There's already some similarities.

 

xakko

Hisako really would feel like a cop out

 

xakko

it's pretty much the best scenario, but its a cop out nonetheless

 

Lia

Thats what I think Whedons setting up. The only other person who I could see staying is Scott, maybe after becomming dissallusioned with his life and wanting to take Peter's place so he can finally be happy with Kitty. Especially since Kitty and Peter are sorta the second generation Jean and Scott. Though it looks like he's working it out with Emma. Grr...

 

Amokitty

Joss didn't think twice about killing Wing, so Hisako is a definite maybe. After all she's his creation/toy.

 

MadR

I still worry about Piotr. Bring him back to kill him, is something Joss would do.

 

Amokitty

The Messiah comment worries me. They don't tend to live do they? They tend to sacrifice themselves.

 

xakko

yeah.

 

xakko

so, quick question: should Logan and Pete make it to Limbo or not?

 

xakko

(in my story)

 

Lia

Yeah, but the messiah thing could be a big twist. Joss loves those. It could end up Peter is just the catalyst for whatever event leads to Breakworlds destruction, not the destroyer himself.

 

melodyrider

If they did, what would you have them do?

 

xakko

dunno yet. still playing a lot by ear.

 

Amokitty

I want it to end with "And they lived happily ever after". But that won't happen so I fear no matter what, I'll be disappointed.

 

MadR

Logan and Pete in Limbo could be interesting. Would you have them meet up with the team right away? or a Logan and Pete team-up

 

xakko

well, i think i have two, maybe three chapters left... things have to get really, really bad...

 

Amokitty

Xak, Logan in Limbo is great, but what reason for Pete may I ask?

 

xakko

just because i have them tagging along together as a comedy act right now

 

Amokitty

Will you please shut up? LOL.

 

Amokitty

That line completely cracked me up.

 

melodyrider

They're working great that way, Xak

 

xakko

i'll almost wish i read the Wisdom series, since that might have told me if Wisdom's new wife might have the ability to get them to Limbo

 

MadR

It might be funny to have them arrive too late, after the day's already been saved.

 

xakko

i can't pull them in for the final battle, no. things are complex enough.

 

Amokitty

She might not, but I'll bet that Tink's dad does.  Just guessing 'cause i haven't read Wisdom either.

 

Amokitty

The dad is Oberon, King of the Fairies BTW. That much I do know.

 

xakko

* nods. dunno how to play that. i was thinking about them going down to the Man-Thing

 

Amokitty

I just realized. Both Xakko and Kirayoshi's stories have Illyana and Wisdom in them.  Hmmm.

 

Amokitty

Oh yeah, Xak! Bring Man-thing and Jennifer Kale into the mix!

 

MadR

Guys, I hate to be the next one to turn into a pumpkin, but I'm nodding off at the keyboard, so....

 

xakko

g'nite Rose!

 

MadR

G'nite all. Lovely chatting with you.

 

Amokitty

Just so long as you're not nodding from boredom, Rose! ;)

 

Lia

Nite, Rose!

 

xakko

i fear i have to hit the hay too... i was up early yesterday for no good reason...

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Amokitty

Good night Rose, and thanks so much for coming!

 

Lia

I'm afraid I'm gonna have to call it quits too. My eyes are starting to get tired. But I had a lot of fun!

 

xakko

and by yesterday, i meant the fifth...

 

Amokitty

It was lovely of you to stop by, Xak! Thank you!

 

xakko

g'nite all! i had fun as always! Thanks to Amokitty and Amocat!

 

melodyrider

Good night, Xakko, and a belated good night to you, Rose!

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Amokitty

Thank you too, Lia! It's wonderful of you guys to come!

 

Lia

Night, Xakko!

 

Amokitty

Good grief, I never say good bye on time, do I?

 

Lia

Goodnight, you guys! Thanks so much for having me here. :)

 

Amokitty

I appreciate you coming, Lia! :)

 

Amokitty

Thank YOU!! Good night!

 

melodyrider

Night, Lia!

 

Lia

Take care, guys. Goodnight!

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Amokitty

Gosh! It got empty darn quick, huh Mel?

 

Amokitty

I'm glad you all gave some hints for your stories!

 

melodyrider

Yeah, but it is pretty late, especially on the east coast

 

melodyrider

Happy to share! I'm glad you're enjoying them

 

Amokitty

True, but the timing is so Jeremy can join in too. He's busy and usually not able to chat until late. So I'm trying to accommodate. I know K works on Sat. so I can't have it too early for that reason as well. And of course he's on the West Coast like you and me. So the time difference has always been a struggle. :(

 

Amokitty

Everyone is so gracious about coming though. I'm thrilled that anyone even shows up!

 

melodyrider

It was a great turnout!

 

Amokitty

Heh. I think the book had a lot to do with that! ;)

 

melodyrider

The book just makes it easier to get the word out. I think given sufficient advertising you could have just as many people any time you chose. Really!

 

melodyrider

How's Molly, BTW?

 

Amokitty

That's so nice of you to say, but who has the money or the wherewithall to advertise? *laughs* I'm out of my league I think. As for Molly, she's about the same, but no worse. We're definitely keeping a close eye on her.

 

Amokitty

People are coming to the site from all over but don't appear too interested in participating. I think it must be like getting lots of people reading your stories, but few actually commenting on them. Is that frustrating for you?

 

melodyrider

Extremely, and it can get a little discouraging, but I just try to remind myself that I'm doing this because I love Kitty as a character

 

melodyrider

The lack of feedback mainly concerns me because I feel there are things I could work on to improve the stories or the way I portray certain characters, and without the comments my ability to spot those opportunities is limited

 

Amokitty

I completely understand! I haven't given up on the guest book, but I'm close! I was hoping for more feedback, but that's life. The site is getting heavy traffic from places like Hong Kong and Sardinia this week. My mind reels. I'd LOVE to know what they think about it. *waves to everyone in Europe and Asia!* :)

 

melodyrider

That's really cool! Kitty, Peter and Kiotr fans from all over the world :)

 

Amokitty

And that just warms the cockles of my heart! So despite the negativity at places like CBR, there's proof that Kiotr fans are everywhere.

 

melodyrider

I think sometimes you just have to accept that things will come slow, too. But as word gets out and traffic picks up, you'll get more people signing the guestbook

 

melodyrider

The theme months are a great idea, too. April was definately a month to be in the mood for X-Babies

 

Amokitty

Oh crap, I loved X-Babies month!

 

Amokitty

July and October will have themes too. I'm glad you like the idea, and I wished I knew what others thought of it too. Like I'm hoping people don't think that it's hokey in any way. I'm trying to have fun with it.

 

melodyrider

No, I think it works really well, especally with it being four times a year, and with the monthly rotation already established people already know to expect a change of some sort

 

Amokitty

I loved the X-Babies at X-men Aberrations, too. *tips hat* I've laughed my head off over it!

 

melodyrider

Even Wizdom? :)

 

Amokitty

Yes. :)  Even Lil' Wizdom.

 

Amokitty

:D :D :D

 

melodyrider

I'm really looking forward to the next round with the little munchkins

 

melodyrider

And Susan and the others are so fun to play off. I could seriously see collaborating with her on a fic if we hit on an idea together

 

Amokitty

I fear sometimes that because I'm a die hard Kiotr fan people think I hate Wisdom. Not true. I hate Emma. :) I hate rabid, mean Kete fans, and I hate having to defend my OTP to people who expect their OTP to be accepted unconditionally. I think there's room for everyone.

 

Amokitty

It would be hella interesting for you and Susan to collaborate together for a male/female perspective like we see with Jeremy and Lia. The trick is getting Susan to find time to do it! ;)

 

melodyrider

Yeah, she's got a lot on her plate with the RP. I still can't believe they talked me into taking Warren as well, but I seem to be making it work so far

 

Amokitty

If anybody needs more detailed depth as a character it's Angel. He's crying for some decent attention!

 

melodyrider

I agree with you wholeheartedly about the rabid fans. I really feel like an outsider when threads get hostile in favor or against a pairing

 

melodyrider

I can see the idea that one or the other is preferred. I just don't see how one or the other changes what's good about one or both of the characters as individuals

 

Amokitty

Absolutely! I'll never understand the motive behind taking their dislike and making a crusade of some sort. I've been in their shoes. Crap happens. Bottom line, it's a comic book. Kiotr will fall out of favor again eventually. I'm not going to kid myself about this. And when it happens, nobody will find me bashing whoever Kitty is with. I can't stand Scott/Emma, but to try to take away their fans' fun is pointless. Why bother?  It's mean, and I'd rather not expend the energy doing it. I admire the Harry Potter fandom for being so inclusive. I wish ours could be like that.

 

Amokitty

I blame Ellis. I really do.

 

melodyrider

Exactly. I could see a lot of griping about, say a Pride and Prejudice pairing of Liz and (anybody but Darcy) because the story is *about* her and Darcy falling in love, but a serial that's focused on adventure and soap opera dramatics is too fluid to cling to one portrayal forever and ever

 

Amokitty

Liz and Wickham 4 everz!!!!!

 

Amokitty

kidding!

 

melodyrider

lol!

 

melodyrider

Oh, I have one more story spoiler you might enjoy. It involves the name Kitty's fans give themselves and it'll be on Livewireworld sometime tomorrow

 

Amokitty

Oh good!!! I want to join her fanclub too! think the kids will give ME a costume???? ;)

 

melodyrider

Sure! Alana loves to sew! :)

 

melodyrider

Kay, here it is. The worst superhero team name ever:

 

Amokitty

LOL!!! Yessssss!

 

melodyrider

Kitty's Litter!

 

Amokitty

.....

 

Amokitty

No joke??

 

melodyrider

That's what they're going to call themselves. Seriously

 

Amokitty

I thought maybe the Pryde or Pride like in Runaways or something.

 

melodyrider

Oh, Alana wanted them to be called Pryde's Pride, and Ben wanted Cat's Shadows, but Scott sort of jumps the gun on them and it sticks

 

Amokitty

Ah. *smiling* yep. Worst name ever. For some reason I'm getting the Kitty in rollerskates costume image in my head. Those kids really, really love her don't they?  ;)

 

melodyrider

Yeah they really do, but I want to make sure they never take over the stories, so little nods or ridiculousness like that are slipped in so that the focus stays on Kitty

 

Amokitty

What inspired Lou's creation?

 

melodyrider

A mix of things. She was originally going to be Kitty's first serious villain, but the first battle didn't go the way I expected it, so I rewrote the concept to have the fight be a misunderstanding where she's trying to save Peter

 

melodyrider

Then when I brought her in as Lou I wanted her to be a new friend for Kitty who wasn't part of the X-Men so that there would be more of a supporting cast feel to it

 

Amokitty

I agree that between her and the kids, they help to give Kitty a separate identity from her normal team player aspect. I'd love to see your take on Illyana or Rachel though.

 

Amokitty

Ever thought about expanding the cast?

 

melodyrider

I'm looking forward to the end of the Uncanny Arc so I can bring Rachel back for some more scenes, and Illyana is tied directly into a few if the hints I dropped in the two Limbo chapters

 

Amokitty

Holy crap that just made my day!

 

melodyrider

I think you're also the first person to correctly guess the imposter's indentity

 

Amokitty

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't ambivalent about this, Mel. But I hope the chapter turns out to your liking. Psyched about your ideas on Peter's resurrection. If this chap has been difficult, I can definitely see how the next one is going to be Mission Impossible!

 

melodyrider

I know it's going to be a hard sell, but I really hope it'll meet with your and everyone else's approval when I get to issue 14 and bring in the motivation and what caused the change.

 

melodyrider

Besides, the challenge makes it more fun, right?

 

melodyrider

I just wish Kyle and Yost hadn't blocked my plans to have the New X-Men get their asses handed to them :(

 

Amokitty

Well, there's no denying that it's a challenge all right! And won't you PLEASE have those kids get their asses kicked. PLEASE? For me? *bats eyelashes*

 

melodyrider

The moment I can get away with it without violating continuity, it's a promise~ :)

 

melodyrider

And Hellion and Rockslide will get their asses kicked twice

 

Amokitty

One of the reasons I loved the New Mutants so damn much was they were students, not X-men. We have plenty of those already. Oh and bless you for that!  Julian and Santos get on my last good nerve. The snark we see in comics is mimicked and lauded on message boards far too often. All flash with little to no substance. Those kids need a lesson in humility. Question is, am I talking about the characters, or the people who love them???? Hmmm. ;)

 

melodyrider

"You're both right!" :)

 

Amokitty

LOL!

 

melodyrider

I'm just glad I have all you here as a resource, because it's really important to me to portray all the characters properly, and I don't want to drop the ball one someone as important as Peter

 

melodyrider

*on

 

Amokitty

A resource? In what way?

 

melodyrider

All the perspectives and data presented on your site and through these chats. They help me see him a little better, and there are times when I really need that

 

Amokitty

Are you sure you trust the perspective of (very) biased Colossus fans like us?? We'll swear he walks on water! He IS a messiah you know.... heh, heh.

 

melodyrider

You guys don't just praise him, though, you cite sources and issues that I can check on my own, and you're detailed when you critize a portrayal

 

Amokitty

Seriously, a lot of people don't "get" Colossus, and I'd wish they'd come to this site, and read good fanfic, to see the details of his character. Honestly, we could list all the crap that's wrong with Colossus too. The things that make him human. In fact, Xakko did an outstanding job of giving what I think is one the most balanced character portrayals of him ever in Kit's Laughing. I'm glad the gallery has helped in some way. If you'd ever like to see something specific, just let me know. Happy to slap it up for you. :)

 

melodyrider

I will definately take you up on that offer sometime. Much gratitude!

 

melodyrider

I'm afraid it's time I bowed out, however

 

Amokitty

Thank you for coming, for giving hints and being cool. :)

 

melodyrider

Thanks for having me! You have a great rest of your weekend, Amo!

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Amokitty

You too, Mel! Night!

 

melodyrider

Good night!

 

db91939

wow, I didn't think the chat would still be going

 

db91939

oh

 

Amokitty

Hey db!!!

 

db91939

lol

 

melodyrider

And hello Db!

 

db91939

just in time for the end

 

Amokitty

How your evening been?

 

db91939

wonderful

 

Amokitty

*laughs*

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db91939

I looooove margaritas

 

Amokitty

Oh god, me too! A friend of mine went to Mexico and bought the good stuff. I never mix it though. I sip on it. :)

 

db91939

hee hee

 

Amokitty

bought ME the booze, I should say!

 

Amokitty

any new fic you're working on by any chance??

 

db91939

well, I'm just really busy with school and a few personal things, but I've got a few fics floating around on my computer and class notes

 

db91939

I'm actually writing a kindof X-men/Les Miserables crossover fic right now

 

Amokitty

And just so you know these chats can go on for hours. :)

 

db91939

hee hee

 

db91939

and then I've got a Piotr bachelor party story too

 

Amokitty

The French Revolution is one my favorite periods in history.

 

db91939

I know!

 

db91939

Les Mis is probably one of my favorite novels of all time, so I'm trying to do it justice

 

Amokitty

Oooh! a bachelor party! *squeals*

 

db91939

yeah. Kurt takes him to a strip club and he freaks out

 

Amokitty

I love Les Mis, Scaramouche, A Tale of Two cities, The Scarlet Pimpernel... I love them all!

 

Amokitty

Oh I could definitely see that! Kurt would appreciate the scenery but Peter blushes and gets mondo uncomfortable!

 

db91939

I didn't like A Tale of Two cities that much, just because I really don't like Dickens. He's too difficult to understand

 

db91939

yeah

 

db91939

but basically my Les Mis story is Piotr is part of Les Amis De L'ABC

 

db91939

right now it's more in the planning stage than the actual writing...

 

Amokitty

You think Sydney Carton and Co. is bad, try reading Nicholas Nickelby!

 

db91939

I wouldn't even dare

 

db91939

the only reason I passed the Oliver Twist test in high school is because of "Oliver and Company" and an old Wishbone episode I saw like... six years earlier

 

Amokitty

Pickwick is a good one to start with Dickens I think. funny too. :)

 

db91939

I'm more of a fan of the French and Russian authors

 

db91939

Hugo, Tolstoy, Turgenev

 

Amokitty

I'm with you there!

 

db91939

whoa... that was inadvertantly alphabetical

 

Amokitty

Your Les Mis/Colossus idea seems like it'll be quite the romantic, swashbuckling piece then?

 

db91939

yeah

 

db91939

I just don't know if I want them to die at the barricades or not

 

Amokitty

*swoons* I live for this stuff.

 

db91939

as do I

 

db91939

I hate chick flicks but I love the swashbucklign romance, ala Errol Flynn

 

db91939

God... Captain Blood is an awesome movie

 

Amokitty

I'll take an intelligent chick flick any day of the week, but the silly, predictable ones...? Ugh.

 

Amokitty

Olivia de Havilland is an awesome actress too!

 

db91939

I love her

 

db91939

she's so... lovely

 

Amokitty

Old movie fan?

 

db91939

totally

 

db91939

I'd much rather watch an old movie than the crap they're turning out today

 

Amokitty

Motto.

 

db91939

even the good movies today are too... self important

 

Amokitty

LOL. then don't watch Spider-Man 3!!!! ;)

 

Amokitty

j/k

 

Amokitty

Can i ask how long you've been a Kiotr fan?

 

db91939

oh golly... I don't even know

 

db91939

years and years

 

db91939

maybe... 4 or so?

 

db91939

really my love for X-men stemmed from evo.

 

Amokitty

Who hooked you first, Kitty or peter?

 

db91939

Kitty

 

db91939

because of Evo

 

db91939

you?

 

Amokitty

I liked Kitty initially too. Followed VERY quickly by Peter.

 

Amokitty

I have Claremont to thank for it. :)

 

db91939

hee hee

 

db91939

thank GOD for online comics, because otherwise I probably wouldn't know shit about either one of them

 

Amokitty

Where do you go for your on-line reading?

 

db91939

uh, I use DC++ to download

 

Amokitty

Interesting! I'll have to check that out!

 

Amokitty

It would beat me handling and re-handling my stuff that's for sure.

 

db91939

yeah.

 

db91939

While I do have one of the greatest comic book stores in my neck of the woods, I don't really want to spend money

 

Amokitty

Oh man, when I think of the money Marvel has made off of me.... it's not pretty.

 

db91939

yeah

 

db91939

I'd rather spend my money on booze and food and clothes

 

db91939

seriously, I cringe to think of the money chick fil a and bacardi have made off of me

 

Amokitty

How did find out about the Kiotr comm if you don't mind me asking? I've been wondering how Anhayla and I could promote the place, and wondering how people find their way to us.

 

db91939

oh jeez... I don't even know

 

db91939

I might have googled the word "kiotr"

 

Amokitty

And I love Chick Fil A! You can't find it in my neck of the country. I have to go East to get it. *sigh*

 

db91939

where are you at?

 

Amokitty

Well that's a start. Never hurts to be on Google! i hear people pay an arm and leg for it.

 

Amokitty

The great Northwest!!!!! :D

 

db91939

do you have N and Out burger then?

 

Amokitty

Where we sadly lack things like Sonic and Chick Fil A. ;(

 

Amokitty

Dammit no!! Ask Jeremy and Lia, they know I'd kill for one of those burgers! Not kidding either.

 

db91939

they're pretty good

 

Amokitty

I'm so bereft....

 

db91939

that's the only reason I'd move to Cali

 

Amokitty

I love California. My husband is a CA native so we go from time to time. Not enough though!

 

db91939

ooh. Yeah, I'm not too fond of it myself. I like seasons

 

db91939

Tahoe is nice though

 

Amokitty

It is indeed. :D

 

Amokitty

I noticed you like Wisdom too. What made you fan?

 

db91939

Excalibur

 

db91939

uh... I just like assholes. They're funny

 

Amokitty

Ellis or Raab? As if I had to ask, but I'll do it anyway!

 

db91939

um... I'm not sure.

 

db91939

the one who didn't suck

 

db91939

the one who didn't write about the bamfs.

 

Amokitty

Too funny! Yeah the one who sucked would be Raab. I think the evil Bamfs showed in Excalibur #118. *snort* It was terrible wasn't it?

 

db91939

it WAS

 

db91939

I absolutely loved the whole Wisdom/Lockheed dynamic

 

Amokitty

Do any authors inspire your writing?

 

db91939

fanfic or otherwise?

 

Amokitty

Oh, Both!

 

db91939

hm... I love Lia's writing, definitely. I don't know if anything influences me consciously, though. I kindof just start writing and don't really think about it. which could explain why a lot of my stuff sucks. However, I just took a creative writing class os hopefully that'll help

 

Amokitty

May I ask why you think this? I'm sure you've had your share of positive reviews.

 

db91939

Eh, I guess it's just because I care more about getting things posted ASAP mroe than perfecting them, so I'm never completely satisfied.

 

db91939

I guess more authors affect me negatively, like "I do NOT want to write like this person."

 

db91939

I'm so sick of the bad kiotr fics on ff.net

 

db91939

they buy a little too much into the stereotypes of what kitty and piotr should be

 

Amokitty

Oh lord, me too! Too many contrived situations, and not enough believability. I find myself going there only on rare occasions now.

 

db91939

I mean, if they get any showtime at all. They usually take a back seat so there can be scene upon scene of remy and rogue kissing through fabric

 

Amokitty

Preach it, sister. I'm tired Romy 24/7.

 

db91939

me too

 

db91939

"AH can't touch you." "oh but Cherie, I'm so sexy and I will flirt with you." "Ah find you attractive, but Ah can't touch you." and then Hank will come in and say "I found some abstract piece of jewelry that will magically make your powers go away!"

 

db91939

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1648521/1/

 

db91939

that is just the perfect story because it has all the bad fanfictions down to a T

 

Amokitty

And truth to tell, they're not written well for the most part either. The angsty cliches are overdone. They need something new and different written about them. Same old scenarios.... lame.

 

Amokitty

Must look at this real quick. BRB.

 

Amokitty

OMG. Somebody needs to give this guy an award! There is truth to be found here.

 

db91939

I know!

 

db91939

it's brilliant

 

Amokitty

Something we were discussing earlier, is that we'd like to see a different direction for Colossus. One that didn't involve his family, and death. Colossus/Kiotr can suffer from the same problems as Romy if writers aren't careful.

 

db91939

my favorite line is: "Rogue: Ah shall console ya,' since Ah'm suddenly a compassionate person. Mah southern accent is now freakishly thick, and a bitch t' read."

 

db91939

exactly

 

Amokitty

Ha! *dies laughing*

 

db91939

one of my biggest pet peeves is people writing accents

 

db91939

it's fine inserting a word here or there, but mostly it's just excessive and pointless

 

db91939

and incorrect

 

Amokitty

It gets stupid after a while. Even Joss is getting stupid with it. What's up with Peter's English in Astonishing?

 

db91939

he's so bumbling

 

db91939

I love it how all of the time he's like "I"m not good with English" and then he says these very articulate insightful things

 

Amokitty

That's one of the reasons i love him too. His philosophy on life shows he's a deep thinker. But his modesty prevents this from being seen too often. I love him for NOT being like Gambit. A flash in the pan.

 

db91939

although, that could just be a part of his character. kindof an insecurity

 

db91939

yeah

 

Amokitty

Your thoughts on X-3.  Good, bad, or indifferent?

 

db91939

I didn't really like it

 

db91939

too rushed, too... stupid

 

db91939

I liked Kitty in it

 

db91939

I just felt like they added a lot of random pointless crap to have fangeeks go "OMG! I know that! lol ghfla!"

 

Amokitty

A lot of ideas were crammed into a 2 hour movie. So everything suffered. They should've concentrated on just Phoenix, or just the Cure. Or just Magneto and the Brotherhood.

 

db91939

exactly

 

db91939

like Mystique. "I'll only be in five minutes in the movie and then I'll be naked for no apparent reason"

 

db91939

or Scott. "I'll cry and then die."

 

Amokitty

Easter eggs are fun, but yes, it got pointless. Psylocke had no need to be there for instance.

 

db91939

I also hated how they gave mutants a power level

 

db91939

It started seeming a little too DnD

 

Amokitty

You know something else? Colossus didn't need to be in it either. he had ONE stupid line. Terrible injustice.

 

db91939

I know

 

db91939

especially since that actor is unbelievably orgasmically hot

 

db91939

what a waste of eye candy

 

Amokitty

If you're going to have a character then SHOW some character development. Or don't bother having them at all. Cudmore was background scenery. :(

 

Amokitty

Cudmore is the stuff dreams are made of. Madripoor Rose has a poster of him, and I wish to god I did!!!

 

db91939

I have a picture somewhere I cut out of Entertainment Weekly back around X2

 

Amokitty

I got nothin'.  I do have some barechested audition pics of him though! ;)

 

db91939

there are very few men that I get all fangirl over

 

db91939

but he's one of them.

 

Amokitty

Definitely.

 

db91939

Also Russell Crowe and John Abraham

 

Amokitty

You mentioned Russel Crowe earlier. Big fan?

 

db91939

yes indeed

 

db91939

he's so manly and wonderful

 

Amokitty

hee1

 

Amokitty

Too bad that can't be said of Toby Maguire. He makes a pretty good Peter Parker however.

 

db91939

that he does

 

db91939

he's all geeky and skinny

 

Amokitty

I still have Spider-Man 3 on the brain I think after seeing it recently.

 

Amokitty

What books do you collect? Just X-titles or others?

 

db91939

uh, I really only have like 2 comics in real form

 

db91939

they're both Ultimate X-men from when I was in high school

 

Amokitty

Not a fan of Ultimate, myself.

 

db91939

but all I really have on my computer are Astonishing and a couple random X-mens from the 80's and a few Excaliburs

 

db91939

I was intrigued by the Kitty/Spiderman pairing, so I started reading

 

Amokitty

That pairing really works for me. Too bad it was so short lived.

 

db91939

yeah

 

Amokitty

As for the Peter/Jean Paul pairing??? don't get me started!

 

db91939

It's... interesting. Not necessarily my favorite.

 

db91939

I mean, if Piotr was going to go for a man.. it wouldn't be Jean Paul.

 

Amokitty

So true.

 

db91939

although, I giggle when I think of the fact he had a crush on Logan

 

Amokitty

What do those two have in common? Not a thing. The crush on Logan makes me cringe, but it has more believability!

 

db91939

yeah

 

Amokitty

He has nothing with Jean Paul except for the fact they're both gay. No common background, interests, or anything. Maybe it's entirely based on looks? Is Peter that shallow? i wouldn't know.  I don't recognize the character at all.

 

db91939

yeah

 

db91939

you know, we were watching "To Catch a Predator" tonight, and I was thinking... it'd be really funny to have that mentioned in a akiotr fanfic

 

Amokitty

Do tell! Would it be a Kitty and Peter team-up?

 

db91939

oh no

 

Amokitty

please elaborate! :)

 

db91939

just like a line where Piotr or Kitty said something about their age difference

 

db91939

like "if we had met online, there'd be Chris Hansen and a swarm of cops outside the mansion right now"

 

Amokitty

Oh! I see! I'm pretty down on the age difference thing right now. Flame wars on a message board have scarred me.  ;)

 

db91939

aw

 

Amokitty

And wouldn't you know it, Chris Hansen was mentioned! Christ, it was awful. Xakko and I were villified for liking Kiotr. People are scary about their comic books.  Believe it.

 

db91939

jeez

 

db91939

where is this?

 

Amokitty

A place called the Comic Book Resources forums. Once a nice place. Now, not so nice.

 

db91939

ouch

 

Amokitty

I'm heartened when I remember that Kiotr has more than 2 fans out there. And that it also has nice, sensible people who enjoy it. Rabid fans take the fun out of so much though.

 

db91939

indeed

 

db91939

like basically all fanfiction

 

db91939

I can stand Romy if it's done right... but in the hands of a silly little fangirl that is just acting out her own fantasies...it's horrible

 

Amokitty

So if you like assholes does this mean you like the snark of Emma Frost, too? ;)

 

Amokitty

It gets Mary Sueish in a way that the writer inserts herself as Rogue, or Storm, or Jean or whoever. I absolutely agree. and it's so transparent. Yikes.

 

db91939

oh yes i do. for the most part

 

db91939

at times it can get a bit predictable and out of hand

 

Amokitty

Which is why I seldom go FF.net anymore. heh.

 

db91939

I go mostly so I can have something to read while drying my hair

 

Amokitty

So if you're writing about Peter's bachelor party, does this mean you'll write a wedding as well?

 

db91939

I don't know

 

db91939

I'm not too much a fan of weddings

 

db91939

and I'm not sure I could write one correctly

 

db91939

the only ones I've ever been to i've been bored stiff

 

Amokitty

Well you know Marvel weddings! a villain always shows up to keep things exciting!

 

db91939

lol

 

Amokitty

Well I look forward to your story when you write it. :)

 

db91939

if I ever get around to it...

 

db91939

whenever I'm on my computer anymore I just play sudoku

 

db91939

maybe after my summer class is over... June 10

 

Amokitty

Summer always gives more free time. Astonishing does seem to be inspiring more fanfic. Can't complain too much. I hope your newest fic turns out well. although I know most authors are rarely satisfied with the final product.

 

db91939

yeah... I'm rarely satisfied with my stories. I hat ethe one I'm working on now for my class, and I made up the characters, but I'm still worried about them being OOC

 

Amokitty

Original characters can be difficult. Because it's YOU that's giving their background personality. You're not expanding on what's already there. You're making up your own canon.

 

db91939

yeah

 

Amokitty

Good luck with that!

 

db91939

although, according to my fiction workshop facilitator, I can write a man pretty convincingly

 

Amokitty

has writing class helped you, or has it been difficult/

 

db91939

um... it definitely has made me think more about what I write before I write it

 

db91939

and has taught me the importance of revision

 

Amokitty

Do you use betas?

 

db91939

nope

 

db91939

I'm too lazy

 

Amokitty

Hah!

 

Amokitty

Hope to see more stories from you this summer. :)

 

db91939

cool, thanks

 

Amokitty

And since I have a birthday party to organize tomorrow… (just realized what time it is!) I think it's probably time to wrap this chat. Thanks so much for coming, db! I hope you'll come back next time!

 

db91939

okie dokie

 

Amokitty

I look forward to it!

 

db91939

I definitely will be back, hope your party goes well!

 

db91939

bye then

  Amokitty

 Thanks! bye! :)

 

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  Amokitty

I'm so glad and grateful to everyone who stopped by. It's been a wonderful evening! Really pleased to know everyone's plans and ideas for current and future fanfic, as well as their ideas on all the Astonishing mysteries. It was a blast! Until next time.  Good night!

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