Transcript for KIOTR Chat  -  April 26th, 2008
Topic: Kiotr Fanfiction & Wolverine First Class

Many thanks to Madripoor Rose for sharing her recipe for Boozeburgers! :-)

 

Amokitty

Well, I’m feeling pretty silly now after the last Chat assuming we’d be discussing Giant Sized Astonishing X-Men this time - should’ve known better…  But I’m definitely looking forward to everyone’s view on Wolverine First Class and discussing the lastest and greatest in Kiotr fanfiction.  :)

     
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Xakko

hola!

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Amokitty

Helllooo Xak!

 

Author376

Hi everyone, I am now here!

 

Xakko

Hiya 376!

 

Amokitty

Hey there, 376! Good evening guys! :)

 

Xakko

how ya all doing?

 

Author376

Salutations and greetings to all and sundry! How is everyone?

 

Amokitty

I'm a little tired, so I've brought a coke with me for caffeine (and I'm not sharing!) :P

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Author376

I'm fine, can't wait to talk, but have had so much sugar in the last hour that I will probably need prompting to speak/type coherantly!

 

Xakko

what if we jinx?

 

Xakko

hi Rose!

 

Amokitty

Rosie dear! Hi! :)

 

Author376

Hi, MadR, note, I am no longer confused regarding that :)

 

Amokitty

If we jinx, well then too bad for you! heh, heh

 

Xakko

we just got back from Red Robin, so my digestive tract is fighting my brain for energy

 

MadR

Hiya

 

Amokitty

Yum! Their teriyaki burgers are the BEST.

 

Author376

I don't think we have Red Robin in Kentucky, sounds great though.

 

Xakko

I usually get the Banzai. today I went Whisky River BBQ

 

Amokitty

'Tis indeed! They've got a million burgers there. Not to mention a million drinks (hard drinks).

 

Xakko

and cholesterol free steak fries

 

Author376

I don't drink, too many alcholics in the family, but the burgers sound great.

 

Author376

Cholesterol free steak fries!!! Well, I'm sold.

 

MadR

No Red Robin around here, either, but once we get the new grill set up I've got to make boozeburgers.

 

Amokitty

Ooooh! Boozeburgers.... (goes off on a Homer-like drool....)

 

Xakko

deb says hi, she's handling the Puffball right now.

 

Xakko

I actually will be right back - laundry just went off

 

Author376

I like to make onion and mushroom burgers. Dice the mushrooms and onions and mix them in with the ground beef.

 

Amokitty

How are Puff and her mom doing? ;)

 

Author376

Yep, cute bunny news?

 

MadR

litte beer, little minced onion....mmmm! And this new grill's going to fun to cook on...all the bells and whistles!

 

MadR

Yeah, I hope Puff's doing better, I know that trouble put a scare into Xak and Deb

 

Author376

Sounds great, my dads old gas grill is a hazard to your health. It flares up at odd moments. if it had an A.I. I would suspect it was plotting against me...

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Amokitty

Hi there, Mel, how's tricks? :)

 

Author376

Oooh, Hi melodyrider! Nice to meet you.

 

melodyrider

Hi everyone!

 

melodyrider

I'm good, thanks!

 

MadR

Hah! Our old grill sounded like it would explode when you lit it. That's why we finally bought the new one. Temperature gauge, ceramic coated grill, very cool.

 

MadR

Hi Mel!

 

Amokitty

Wow, nice grill! And you've got it at the start of the season too! We'd all like to come to your place for BBQ! woo-hoo!

 

Author376

Yep, a group BBQ would be a blast, too bad we're scattered across the country . ::laugh

 

Xakko

heya MR

 

MadR

It even has a side burner. No more running back and forth between the steaks and the boiling potatoes. I can't wait to fire 'er up and try it out!

 

Amokitty

No kidding!!

 

melodyrider

Hi Xakko! How, it going?

 

Author376

Oh, my dad wants a new one like that, but it's not in the current budget.

 

Amokitty

I can practically SMELL the smoke wafting off it..... *sigh*

 

Xakko

Puff is just fine after her little scare, and she's finally gotten past that she doesn't get bananas anymore

 

Author376

I echo Amokitty's *sight*

 

MadR

Glad Puff's doing better.

 

Amokitty

Does she still get strawberries, Xak?

 

MadR

Yeah, we couldn't have gotten this grill without a good garage sale run and a sale at Sears.

 

Author376

I'm also glad the bunny is feeling better. Bunnies should be happy, when they are not, they can bite the bejesus out of you :)

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melodyrider

Hi Deb!

 

Author376

Hi Deb!

 

Amokitty

Hey, it's Deb!! Hi there! :D

 

MadR

Hi Deb!

 

Xakko

not in a while. we're trying to keep her off the sweets

 

deb

Hi

 

Author376

Deb must be very 'Hi' by now.

 

deb

way totally hi

 

Amokitty

I'm glad the garage sale will continue to bring you dividends during the summer, Rose. ;)

 

Author376

Oh, poor bunny, but it's good for her. My dad's cat is on a diet right now and he is not a happy kitty.

 

deb

::coffee Oh, i just found a little cup of tea for me in with the smiley faces

 

MadR

The old grill had a long run...and hell, kept us alive during that ice storm before we got the generator. It's definitely one of the Boots Theory Of Economics purchases. Get a good one and have it for decades.

 

Xakko

oh my.

 

Xakko

deb has her tea

 

Amokitty

Kind of like an investment, huh? ;)

 

Author376

::coffee I can have tea as well...wait, I don't like tea...

 

Amokitty

Green tea with ginger. My fave. :)

 

deb

xakko's not a tea drinker either

 

Xakko

::ninja

 

Author376

I have an Welsh grandmother who is greatly and personally insulted by my dislike of the beverage.

 

Author376

You has a ninja!

 

deb

it's my only source of caffeine

 

Amokitty

Coffe then, 376? columbian, java, sumatran, arabian roast, with double shots of whatever? :D Where I live they're on every street corner.

 

Amokitty

My husband's late father was Welsh. He loved tea too!

 

Author376

I don't drink caffinated beverages save an occasional coke. I'm hypoglycemic, though, so I'm always on sugar to keep my bloos sugar levels up.

 

Amokitty

Coke is the love of my life.

 

deb

i don't like coffee or pop. the english and canadian in me demand tea every day

 

Xakko

does Mark know?

 

Author376

Yep, Grandma can't believe I don't like it, so she's always making me have it with her. Who drinks a hot beverage in 97 degree weather in florida.

 

MadR

I have to be careful with caffiene thanks to the insomnia. I do like a nice cup of tea with my toast in the mornings.

 

Amokitty

Why yes he does!!!! :P

 

deb

Me too I used to pass out every morning at school until i learned to eat breakfast every morning

 

Amokitty

You Anglo-Canadian, Deb? Interesting!

 

Xakko

yesterday I was lauded for not succumbing to the coffee bug, but then I showed my replacement caffeine- 2 24 oz diet cherry coke and No-Doz.

 

MadR

Heh, the old 'drink hot tea in hot weather to make you feel cooler' theory. My grandma used to do that too.

 

Amokitty

.... uh.... pass out???

 

melodyrider

I used to hate coffee, but I think that's some kind of sin here in Portland

 

Author376

Oh, people think I'm so great because I don't drink or hit the coffee, and then they see the bag of twizzlers in my purse and realized I replace it with sugar.

 

deb

english, irish german and dutch. mom's 1/2 canuck. I come from a long line off short canadians

 

Xakko

she's also hypoglycemic, her sugar would drop and she would get woozly

 

Author376

It is not a sin to hate coffee. It's a sin to keep the addicted away from their fix.

 

Amokitty

Xak, that same combo worked for me when I used to work graveyard!

 

deb

oh, and hockey. I likes me some hockey too

 

Xakko

heh. I work 7-3

 

Xakko

but my preference would be graveyard

 

Author376

Hee! I'm 4 foot 9 inches tall, I come from a long line of short welshmen and welshwomen!

 

deb

I <3 red twizzlers

 

MadR

brb

 

Amokitty

Amen, 376. My life would be so much sadder without the REAL Thing!

 

Author376

Who doesn't?

 

MadR

Red vines over twizzlers.

 

Author376

Hmm, tough call MadR.

 

Amokitty

I could easily do 7-3, but graveyard? It completely kicked my ass.

 

Xakko

hey MR, did you end up going to Stumptown?

 

Author376

Being a year off teaching I don't think doing graveyard will be a problem for me, but the kids can kick your butt.

 

Amokitty

Mr. Pibb and red vines = crazy delicious. Sorry, had to say it.

 

Xakko

Deb, Author376 could be one of your relatives!

 

MadR

Back

 

melodyrider

Not today, which is a shame, because I missed the panel discussions, but I definately plan to go tomorrow

 

Amokitty

Xak! *cracks up*

 

Xakko

(Deb, at 5 foot tall, was one of the tallest women at her family reunion in Canada)

 

melodyrider

This could be the first time I've ever brought something in to be signed

 

deb

r u from ontario???

 

Author376

I could indeed, I'm one of those people who descened on one side from a Mayflower pioneers so I'm related to about 1/4th of america.

 

Xakko

what're you taking in, MR?

 

Author376

Nope, not Ontario, everywhere else, though, my family moved a whole lot in the last 200 odd years.

 

Amokitty

Hey, one of my relatives MET the Mayflower pioneers! :D

 

melodyrider

That's cool, Author! My wife's related to one of the Mayflower's passengers, too!

 

deb

oh well, canada is a big country after all

 

Amokitty

Okay I'm kidding but theoretically it COULD be possible....

 

Xakko

I'm mostly 20th century Ellis Island arrivals

 

Author376

I told you, a lot of people in this country are related!

 

melodyrider

Haven't decided what I should bring in for Bendis, Xak, but I think I'll bring in X-Men First Class #1 for Jeff parker to sign

 

deb

cool. I'd like to go to a real comic con some day

 

MadR

Hey, with the new extinction theory EVERYONE's related. Hear about that, the 2000 adams and eves?

 

deb

our local 1 sucks

 

Xakko

I'd probably bring in "Who Killed Retro Girl?"... Powers is my favorite by Bendis

 

Author376

I'd love to go to comicon too, but school's got me busy right now

 

Amokitty

Mark's great great grandma was an Irish Ellis Island arrival. God knows all the people he could be related to....

 

Xakko

missed that one, Rose. Discovery Channel?

 

Xakko

(boom de yadda boom de yadda)

 

melodyrider

I've never read any Powers, actually

 

melodyrider

>.>

 

Amokitty

Rose, i saw that on CNN. The human race almost got wiped out.

 

MadR

Heh. AOL news headlines. They think the human race almost got wiped out and all modern humans came from 2000 individuals.

 

Amokitty

Boom di yada! I love arach-a-nids!!

 

Author376

No kidding, did you know that a 12th century Irish warlord is the direct ancestor of over one eigth of all people from or in Ireland? My mom's family is Irish 19th century immigrants too.

 

Xakko

and most of Asia is related to Chengis Khan

 

Author376

around 70,000 years ago the human race bottlenecked and as few as 60 breeding females or as many as 10,000 humans survived, we are all, no matter what race, descened from them.

 

Amokitty

Filthy inbreeding! Something should have been done, I tell you!!!

 

melodyrider

So, you're saying there's hope for the 198, then :)

 

Amokitty

Ha!

 

deb

get busy wid it 198

 

Author376

I've actually thought of using that in fanfiction. What if Mutant's were the descendants of another race of hominids from the bottleneck whose genetics were just buried and then only showed up when the gene pool deepened a little.

 

Amokitty

Hey, at least Kitty and Peter have been TRYING, Deb!

 

MadR

That's a cool idea, 376.

 

deb

::laugh

 

Author376

It would have hard to have done anything about the inbreeding. A volcano eruption caused it. the volcano's still in Indonesia, it's bowl is 60 miles across.

 

MadR

The 2000 thing fits in with my SG-1 work in progress....but I really need to work on some X Men fic. Maybe tomorrow if the trip out to the junkyard doesn't take too long.

 

deb

lockheed could babysit

 

Author376

I'll love to read anything you write MadR, your work is wonderful!

 

deb

BOOOOM

 

Amokitty

Aw...! If Lockheed lives that is......

 

Author376

Lockheed as a babysitter must be used in fanfiction. The humor is irresistible.

 

MadR

Heh. I would really like to apologize to my friendslist for the inexpliciable fixation on Sam J Jones. I can't help myself.

 

Author376

Aw, don't apologise, fixations are fun!

 

MadR

Lockheed as a babysitter could be hysterical! He doesn't have the I'm a dumb animal excuse any more!

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Amokitty

Everybody has their fan crushes! I love MANY fandoms, and may yet spam my f-list with them. You've all been warned!

 

melodyrider

Hi kir!

 

Author376

Yeah, and I'd love to see him try and change a diaper, or how people would stare if he was flying through Central Park pushing a stroller.

 

Author376

Hi Kirayoshi!

 

Kirayoshi

Yo yo y'all!

 

Amokitty

Kirayoshi!!!! I'm thrilled! You made it! :D

 

MadR

Hiya Kira!

 

Kirayoshi

'

 

Kirayoshi

Whassup whassup?

 

Kirayoshi

A little too street of me, huh?

 

melodyrider

I think Lockheed could manage changing diapers. He *delivered* the babies of Numbers and Dragon, as you may recall :)

 

Author376

Lockheed as the babysitter of doom is being discussed. Doom in general, not Latvaria's Doom.

 

Amokitty

Not a bit, K!  ;)

 

Kirayoshi

How can Lockheed change diapers without opposable thumbs?

 

Author376

By conning the students into doing it?

 

Amokitty

His tail???

 

Author376

Oh, tail, great idea!

 

MadR

Claws cut through plastic if they're disposable.

 

Kirayoshi

Sounds like Kurt Wagner's schtick!

 

Kirayoshi

And Kitty'd go for cloth diapers.

 

Amokitty

Yeah, but Lockheed can't sword fight with his!

 

Kirayoshi

She'

 

Kirayoshi

She's green like that.

 

Author376

Yep, I bet she'd make Piotr help wash them too.

 

Amokitty

She would!

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Xakko1

darnit.

 

Amokitty

Xak, everything okay?

 

Xakko1

our DSL harfed

 

Amokitty

Whoops!

 

MadR

Don't the cloth diapers have velcro these days?

 

melodyrider

It's Skrull Xakko!

 

Amokitty

*dies*

 

melodyrider

:)

 

Xakko1

* facepalm

 

Xakko1

you into the whole Secret Invasion, MR?

 

Xakko1

hiya Kirayoshi! didn't see you join while I was cursing out Verizon

 

Author376

I can see him hating that. He grew up in a society where men didn't wash diapers after all. He'd do it without bomplain though. Scrull Xakko? We must test this...quick someone ask a ridiculously personal question of Xakko one and Xakko!

 

Kirayoshi

I've got Big Event Fatigue currently.

 

melodyrider

I liked the first issue, but I'm reserving judgment on the concept until after I see where they go with the consequences

 

Amokitty

Who thought that having Scott in Skrull green on the latest Uncanny cover was lame?

 

Xakko1

the hippie cover?

 

Kirayoshi

Between Infinite Countdown to Final Crisis of 52 Brand New Days of Civil War Hulk...

 

melodyrider

If it turns into some contrived effort to "undo" certain events I won't be very happy with it

 

Amokitty

376! You've got me laughing out loud!

 

Author376

He'd do it (change diapers) without complaint. Basement's really cold. Sorry for the spelling errors.

 

MadR

The events and gimmacks are ridiculous. Get back to storytelling. I mean....Marvel Apes.

 

Amokitty

Yeah, the hippie cover. :)

 

Kirayoshi

I liked Emma in that one, actually.

 

Amokitty

We typo a LOT of stuff around here, 376. You're in good company, believe me!

 

Author376

I HATE the gimmicks. Is it just me, or are they leaching the fun out of comics with the angst, and destroying the credibility of the stories with all of the retconning?

 

Author376

Thanks for the understanding.

 

Kirayoshi

Although they did that better with Promethea once.

 

MadR

Marvel. Apes. Marvel Apes. MARVEL apes. Marvel APES. Nah, I still can't believe that's an actual book coming out. Marvel. Apes.

 

Amokitty

Emma looked great, it was Scott in green skin that seemed silly to me.

 

Xakko1

hrmmm...

 

Kirayoshi

Considering JLA did that already a few years ago, it's like Marvel isn't even trying!

 

Author376

OH, and THANKS to eveyone for all of the great Emma feedback at the LJ community for my Emma in the Unquiet Dreams sequel, she's a hard character for me to pin down.

 

MadR

Some of the art in the hippie comic was nice....the Goddess is gorgeous. The characterization was way off.

 

Kirayoshi

I saw her as an opportunist, but one who wants to be more than that.

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Amokitty

I totally agree Rose.

 

Author376

Yes, I find that the art is often better, but the characterization's gone down hill.

 

still_deb

hi i'm back

 

melodyrider

Hi deb!

 

Kirayoshi

Hi, back!

 

Author376

Marvel Apes...Ick, that's all I have to say, just plain...ick.

 

Amokitty

Deb is back! We think.... Is it REALLY you, Deb??

 

Kirayoshi

It's a Skrull!

 

still_deb

puff is demanding pets so xakko's off

 

Author376

Hi deb...wait, not a scrull right?

 

still_deb

i don't feel green or anything...yeah it must be me

 

Author376

Okay, Puff has cleared Deb and Xakko, so they can't be skrulls. You can fool a mutant, but a bunny is far to sharp to fall for the old skrull switch trick.

 

Amokitty

Marvel is scraping the bottom of the barrel with the ape thing. K's right, it's been done already. DC doing the zombie thing is just as lame.

 

Kirayoshi

DC's doing zombies now?

 

MadR

Brb

 

Kirayoshi

Dear God in heaven why?

 

Author376

OH, god yes, will DC and Marvel just stop coping each other!

 

Author376

Especially with the Zombies, I am sick of Zombies!

 

Kirayoshi

You sure that wasn't a belated April Fools Joke?

 

Amokitty

DC is really truly gonna do their Zombie versions.... but why lord? Why?

 

Kirayoshi

What's next? Superman making a deal with Neron to save Ma Kent but losing Lois?

 

still_deb

zombies suck..oh wait no that vampires

 

Amokitty

I saw promo art for it, K. but I suppose it could've been some kind of joke.

 

Author376

The economy, gas prices. DC zombies...What's next the Apocalypse?

 

Kirayoshi

I know Suydam(sp?) did a couple of DC related Zombie covers, just for kicks.

 

still_deb

DC age of apocalypse

 

Kirayoshi

I think he did a parody of the Death of Supergirl cover from CoIE

 

Author376

Hoping it was just a cover.

 

MadR

Didn't DC already do an Apocalpyse? heh.

 

Kirayoshi

Or Age of Apokalips?

 

Amokitty

Marvel will have Dr. Strange go nuts and rape and kill off several Marvel characters, maybe?

 

Kirayoshi

Nah, they already killed the New Gods, at least for now.

 

Author376

Just playing on words, but yep, they really do survive by ganking each other don't they?

 

MadR

Now that we're Real Sure of Kitty's fate, I'm waiting to see if DC offs Ted Kord again.

 

Amokitty

That they do.

 

Author376

Ugh, when will it end?

 

Kirayoshi

OY!

 

Kirayoshi

I'm pretty sure that they'll have Ted Kord sacrifice himself to preserve the timeline or something.

 

Amokitty

I think Xak had a point last Chat that maybe death might not be in Kitty's cards after all.

 

Author376

We should be making comics, our fanfiction is better, and that is saying something, when fanfiction is ever better since these guys get paid.

 

Kirayoshi

And I still say Kitty either ends up in Demonic Limbo or becomes the next Phoenix.

 

still_deb

oops, i think i just stepped on a blue beatle

 

Author376

I hope she doesn't die, but if she leaves Piotr I'll be madder than a badger in a wet sack. I'm betting Demonic Limbo too.

 

Amokitty

At the very least you'd never catch any serious fanfic writers doing Marvel apes for heaven's sake!

 

Amokitty

*squish!*

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MadR

That may be half of why my imagination fled into SG-1 Siren Song...closed canon and a favorite character TPTB can't mess around with. I needed the break from the anxiety.

 

Author376

Uck, don't mention the apes. There are things I could throw near me right now!

 

Xakko1

sorry about that. Puff is very demanding

 

Kirayoshi

I'll bet we have a scene in Divided We Stand 2 where Illyana is protecting a sleeping Kitty, while holding a baby, whispering, "Don't cry, Michael, Auntie 'Yana's here."

 

Amokitty

Come back!! ;)

 

MadR

Kira, that would rock!

 

Amokitty

Oh K.... if only. *sigh*

 

Author376

It would rock. Then Piotr could save the day and have all of his family back.

 

still_deb

that would be soo cool

 

Author376

Mikhail though, since 'Yana was saying it, though, right?

 

Kirayoshi

The only good thing about a Marvel Apes mini is the possibility that Arthur Adams could pencil it.

 

Xakko1

the most recent Previews mentioned something about a fight for Hell in DC

 

MadR

Or if the Marvel Apes is an out and out comedy...I might buy it then.

 

Kirayoshi

I was thinking Michael because of Nova's mindf*** in AXM #17.

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still_deb

oh, if I owned hell I'd send telemarket CEOs there

 

Author376

Sorry, inspirtation. Illyana didn't die, ended up in DC, Kitty ends up in DC, comes back with baby and we could write cross over....oooh, needs to think about this.

 

Xakko1

and spammers, deb. definitely spammers

 

Author376

I know, the MindF*** is something I'm still mad about, but it is really good plot fodder.

 

Kirayoshi

I remember an interesting fanfic crossover called The Old Switcheroo, where Kitty was born in the DCU while Tara Markov was born in the MU.

 

Amokitty

Well 376 they WERE in DC. Sovereign Seven to be exact. :)

 

still_deb

yeah! and spammers

 

Author376

GET THE SPAMMERS!!!

 

Kirayoshi

Kitty ends up starting a long-term relationship with Gar Logan while Tara seduces and betrays Piotr.

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db91939

hey kids!

 

Xakko1

hiya db!

 

MadR

Oh, I remember that crossover....not bad, but I hadn't read much DC when I read it.

 

melodyrider

Hi db!

 

Amokitty

Hi there Dark Bat!!!

 

Author376

Oh, sorry, I'm just not as knowledgeable as you guys (ick about the gar Logan and betrayeld of piotr) my mother hated comics when I was a kid.

 

MadR

Hey Dark Bat

 

Kirayoshi

Marv Wolfman once said he wrote Tara Markov as the anti-Kitty.

 

db91939

I can't stay long, I'm getting ready to go paint the town, but I thought I would drop in!

 

Amokitty

So glad you did, DB!

 

Author376

Hello db!

 

db91939

yeah, I wish I could stay

 

Author376

Hope you have fun

 

MadR

376: talking about an old fanfic with gar logan and piotr, not comics canon.

 

Kirayoshi

He made her the cute girl who endeared herself to the others, like Kitty had become in the X-Men, but then had her turn out to be a traitor, and a bit of a psycho.

 

db91939

me too. just not too much fun. I have to work tomorrow

 

db91939

so is wolverine first class really good?

 

Amokitty

The more I see Kitty in Exiles, the more convinced I am that Cat is a Tara clone.

 

Author376

I never liked Tara, as little as I know of her.

 

Kirayoshi

The more I see of anyone in Exiles, the more I'm convinced it won't last 12 issues!

 

Amokitty

It is! The stories are fun and interesting, i think.

 

Xakko1

I liked animated Tara... she was more sympathetic, anyway

 

MadR

I'd say Wolverine First Class is on the same level as X Men First Class and the Marvel Adventures titles: Light and fun.

 

Kirayoshi

That was kinda the point, Author376.

 

Kirayoshi

She was supposed to be hated.

 

MadR

And I like that it's been one story per issue so far.

 

Kirayoshi

Light and fun? Quesada will soon put a stop to that!

 

Author376

I know, but it made her so one dimensional...

 

Amokitty

I was disappointed in it too, K. CC's dialogue was horrible this last issue. I want the book to succeed but it won't based on stories like this. I fear CC will be out of a job at Marvel.

 

Author376

When he does I will miss the light and fun. There isn't enough of it in the comics anymore.

 

Amokitty

And they keep pairing CC with unknown crap artists! Exiles is looking terrible!

 

Kirayoshi

The rumor I've heard is that next year's Big Event will involve the mystic side of the MU.

 

db91939

oh! I have a question for you all

 

Xakko1

CC really works best with a strong, opinionated artist.

 

Kirayoshi

Tom Grummett should be back next issue or so.

 

Kirayoshi

He's actually pretty good.

 

db91939

so I'm slowly (very slowly) plugging away at my Les Mis/X-men fic and I have a question- should I call Kitty "Kitty" in that or "Katherine."

 

Kirayoshi

Kinda old school, reminds me of Cockrum.

 

Amokitty

I miss the fun a lot. Exiles started with some promise, but I fear it's going downhill.

 

Kirayoshi

I still want Gevaisa to finish her Kitty/Phantom of the Opera fic.

 

Xakko1

Katherine... or a French diminutive

 

Kirayoshi

Chaton?

 

Xakko1

brb - laundry again.

 

Kirayoshi

That's the French word for kitten

 

Author376

I think Chaton works well, it's certainly affectionate.

 

Kirayoshi

Anyone into Batman fanfic?

 

MadR

I'd go with Katherine too. It...fits better.

 

Kirayoshi

I stumbled onto a fun one called "Cat Tales"

 

Amokitty

Grummet is a solid known pro - but the fill in stuff, the Exiles Excalibur x-over and the new Gen NeXt art seems uninspired.

 

db91939

ok, thanks

 

MadR

I still read Chris Dee's batfic.

 

MadR

Hah! Kira.

 

Author376

I don't write batman, but I love to read it. Have you checked out JC Roberts Truth and Justice series.?

 

Kirayoshi

Loved Catwoman's one-woman show.

 

Kirayoshi

I'll have to check that one.

 

Author376

Yes, Cat Tales is a lot of fun.

 

db91939

I love batman fanfic

 

Kirayoshi

"I salute you, worlds greatest detective!"

 

MadR

The whole series is the best batfic I've ever read. And I really don't like Batman.

 

Author376

Truth and Justice is at ff.net, let me do some spoilage...Batman falls for superman's grown up daughter.

 

db91939

where is this?

 

db91939

ooh!

 

db91939

that sounds really cool!

 

Kirayoshi

Huh...

 

Amokitty

Well DB, Katherine doesn't exist in French. It's always with a "C". The letter K isn't a part of the language.

 

db91939

hm, that's right.

 

Kirayoshi

I kinda like Paul Dini's experimenting with a possible Batman/Zatanna relationship.

 

db91939

I just don't want to change her name too drastically, because that would be confusing

 

db91939

I'm already changing her last name

 

Kirayoshi

He did a great two-parter last year where Batman and Zatanna teamed up against the Joker, who had assumed the identitiy of a goth magician.

 

Author376

That's always fun, especially with Batman's distrust of magic, but JC Roberts wrote the Martha Kent character wonderfully in her series too.

 

db91939

Martha Kent had her own series?

 

MadR

DB: maybe something about Kittys family being polish and moving to Paris? Or you can just handwave it.

 

Kirayoshi

In flashback, we find out that they knew each other when they were kids, and she was able to reach him during his first birthday after his parents' death.

 

db91939

Maybe

 

Author376

Martha Kent as in Lois and Clark's daughter Martha who Bruce meets when she comes to Arkham as a staff psychologist and falls for, trust me, it ends up less contrived than it sounds and the writing is tops.

 

Amokitty

Good idea, Rose! That would work!

 

db91939

I mean, I'm having her brother be one of Les Amis D'ABC, to fit her into the story line better

 

Kirayoshi

The main problem was still Batman's mistrust of Zatanna after the whole Identity Crisis debacle.

 

MadR

I did like the Batman and Zatanna relationship in BTAS.

 

Kirayoshi

But by the end of the story they mended their fences.

 

db91939

so I'm changing her last name to Courfeyrac

 

db91939

Although I'm already hating this plot. Its very similar to "Across the Universe"

 

Kirayoshi

minus the Beatles soundtrack, I trust?

 

Amokitty

I haven't seen that movie, yet. Wasit any good?

 

db91939

of course

 

Kirayoshi

Last movie I saw was Forbidden Kingdom.

 

Kirayoshi

Lots of fun.

 

db91939

although maybe I could work in "The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill" in there somehow

 

db91939

Across the Universe was really good

 

Author376

Forbidden Kingdom was great.

 

db91939

fun fun

 

Kirayoshi

Especially the big fight in the first hour between Jackie Chan and Jet Li.

 

Amokitty

I'm going to see it tomorrow! yay!

 

db91939

Lots of songs from the White Album

 

Author376

Oh that fight was wonderful.

 

db91939

that looks like an interesting movie

 

Kirayoshi

Don't expect the next House of Flying Daggers or Hero, but it's still a lot of fun.

 

Author376

It is really interesting and funny in many parts. Not one to make you think, but one to make you smile as far as movies go.

 

Kirayoshi

Did it have Maxwell's Silver Hammer?

 

Kirayoshi

Across the Universe, I mean.

 

db91939

no, but one of the characters was named Maxwell and in one scene he was carrying a silver hammer

 

MadR

Isn't Forbidden Kingdom supposed to be another take on Monkey King and the Scholar From Above?

 

db91939

it did have "Dear Prudence," though. Which is one of my favorites

 

Author376

Yes, it does have that backstory, but it's altered a bit. It's done in a fun way, though.

 

Amokitty

What does everyone think of Wolverine First Class now that it has 2 issues under its belt? Curious what y'all think!

 

MadR

Loved the miniseries with Thomas Gibson and Bai Ling...but Jackie Chan and Jet Li are going to make the fight scenes awesome!

 

Kirayoshi

That was an interesting series.

 

MadR

Wolverine 1st Class....I like it. As much as I love Kitty though....I would have liked to see a version more like X Men First Class with Wolverine and Piotr, Storm, Banshee, etc....

 

Kirayoshi

I'm actually looking up info on Sun Wukong for a Kim Possible fic I'm doing.

 

Author376

Oh, and I've got an outline for the Third in the Stolen Child Trilogy! I just have to stick the ending on it!

 

MadR

But Wolverine First Class is very cute, and has had some nice kiotry moments.

 

Xakko1

back again

 

melodyrider

I think it's off to a great start and hope it maintains this tone for a good while

 

Amokitty

I hope those Kiotry moments will keep us going until Kitty returns..... :(

 

melodyrider

I can't wait for some of the stories Van Lente has hinted at for future issues

 

Author376

Yes, we need all the Kiotr we can get.

 

db91939

when does Giant sized come out?

 

Amokitty

I very much enjoy the fun and cute aspects of the book. It's got a bit of the old Claremont feel to it. I think Kitty is far too brave though. She needs to be a little more chicken.

 

Xakko1

(we liked Forbidden Kingdom too, K)

 

Amokitty

Giant Sized Astonishing is tentatively sceduled for May 21st.

 

db91939

oh good. after finals

 

Amokitty

The Soviet Super Soldiers are coming up soon! I squealed when I read that!

 

MadR

Kitty is definitely straying into Marysue territory. She's a thirteen year old girl whose been an X Man for two weeks! She should not be facing off against Sabretooth without visible terror.

 

Author376

I agree with that, Kitty should certainly have been very frightened of Sabretooth.

 

MadR

They've got her acting like Kitty NOW instead of Kitty THEN. Sloppy for a flashback/historical comic.

 

db91939

cause if it came out right before finals then I would be so distracted by all the lovely stories you would write in response, and then I would fail out of CSU

 

Kirayoshi

Can't say I've been following First Class.

 

Kirayoshi

I may catch the trades.

 

Amokitty

I absolutely agree with you on this, Rose. Kitty has always been resourceful, but she hasn't even gotten her code name in this series yet. She should've been scared spitless.

 

Kirayoshi

Given that it's aimed at the younger readers, it'll probably be a digest-sized.

 

Kirayoshi

They should do an issue involving Kitty's getting used to Kurt.

 

Amokitty

I think you'll like it, K. There will be some Kiotrness involved for sure according to the author.

 

Xakko1

hard to say. X-men: First Class has gotten Premiere HC for both the mini and the ongoing

 

Kirayoshi

Wasn't that a plotline at the time, that Kitty was initially spooked by his blue-devil look?

 

Author376

I'd love to see more Kitty getting used to Kurt.

 

Xakko1

very much so

 

MadR

There have already been a couple of kiotr moments in the First class books.

 

melodyrider

I have a feeling this second issue takes place some time after her battle with the N'Garai Demon, actually

 

db91939

alright, time to go make a scene... or something

 

MadR

A continuity timestamp would be nice.

 

db91939

you all have a great night!

 

Xakko1

have fun db!

 

MadR

G'nite Darkbat.

 

melodyrider

Good night, db!

 

Author376

Have fun while your out!

 

Kirayoshi

take care DB.

 

db91939

sorry I couldn't stay longer!

 

db91939

adios

 

Xakko1

it was nice to see you nonetheless

 

Author376

Bye DB

  db91939 left.

 

 

Kirayoshi

I'd still like to see an issue where Kitty deals with being displaced by her future self in DoFP.

 

Amokitty

I thought it was good to see Kitty too scared to ask Kurt to drive her to the concert. At least this is something that will continue to be a part of the book. maybe Van Lente will do a story where she begins to thaw around Kurt. I'd really like to see that.

 

Kirayoshi

Or maybe a confrontation between Logan and Peter after the Brood arc.

 

Amokitty

Damn, I missed Dark Bat! Sorry! Hope your party's a fun one. :)

 

MadR

Kitty's nervousness around Kurt and the whole DOFP thing would be great fodder for issues. Or fic. ::smile

 

Author376

Oooh, I'd love to see a controntation between Piotr and Logan after the brood arch. That could go sooo many ways!

 

Xakko1

that would be after the whole Nightcrawler's Inferno, yes?

 

Kirayoshi

They probably end up trashing another bar.

 

Author376

Having X-Men trash bars is fun, though!

 

Amokitty

K!! so funny, but yeah it's been done a LOT, hasn't it?

 

MadR

Or that whole Birds and Bees conversation....with Piotr wishing someone would knock him senseless.

 

MadR

Logan doesn't seem to mind Kitty dating Peter...it's the whole 'breaking her heart' thing that set off the bar brawl. Which didn't even have to happen and was his fault anyway and I'll be over here....

 

Author376

Oh, that would be funny. Logan saying Piotr was stupid for being honorable 'cause of (insert speech about life being short from the century old guy) and then embarrassing Piotr with advice and girly magazines.

 

Amokitty

Mel, why do you think this is set after the Hannukah Christmas Demon story? Because Kitty and the Professor already knew Mariko, and they were introduced in Uncanny #143?

 

Kirayoshi

I thought Mariko was established before Kitty met the team.

 

MadR

They have Kitty getting Mariko's name by hacking Logan's address book....

 

Author376

I've got the same Zsaji issues MadR. Can I join you in your corner.

 

Amokitty

I'll be joining you, Rose. That whole thing was handled so badly... Then again so was the Jean/Madelyne thing.... Doesn't anybody CARE enough to have these stories make sense?

 

Kirayoshi

Would someone please just say it canon: Zsaji gave Peter an empathic whammy?

 

Xakko1

too bad Jeremy isn't here. I'd love to see what he's got planned in his story

 

MadR

We've all got the same Zsaji issues....the whole thing tends to make me foam at the mouth and I'm trying not to hijack the chat.

 

Amokitty

She was, K, but Kitty and Xavier never met her before Uncanny #143.

 

Xakko1

Wolverine did, I thought.

 

Kirayoshi

Marvel doesn't know how to handle relationships.

 

Kirayoshi

Just ask MJ.

 

melodyrider

I'm guessing on the timing partially because of the date of the concert. The first issue took place in August, now it's April

 

Kirayoshi

Or Jackpot or whatever she's calling herself.

 

Amokitty

I wish he were here too, Xak. given what short notice this night is, he might have other plans. I dunno.

 

Xakko1

8 months later? that's like 3 years of real time

 

MadR

Marvel doesn't know how to handle relationships...believable characterization....consistent storylines...printing and shipping schedules....

 

Author376

I like to think Zsaji gave the whole team an empathic whammy. I am thinking about writing a story where Zsaji is a pediphile on her homeworld who was sentences exiled as punishment, but ran away from the penal colony...anway with a police officer from Zaji's homeworld comes to Earth to offer empathic detox to all of her "victims" and then Piotr and the rest have to deal with the emotional aftermath.

 

melodyrider

But really, it's not all that important. And being scared rarely stopped Kitty from doing the sorts of things she did in this issue, even back then

 

Xakko1

relationships will always fall prey to the demands of soap opera plotlines

 

Amokitty

Please do this, 376. *gets down on knees and begs*

 

Kirayoshi

Sounds cool.

 

MadR

376 that would be awesome!

 

Author376

Have got to find the time! I need to finish Unquiet Dreams first. I may put off the third story for a few months while I write that.

 

Kirayoshi

Maybe Logan was immune and thats why he was mad at Peter?

 

MadR

Just the summary is 10% more awesome than anything canon I've read in a long time.

 

Xakko1

honestly, as much as I despise what Shooter wrought, Zsaji did sacrifice herself to bring Piotr back to life. I can't *hate* her that much

 

Author376

Or channeling Logan into Anger at Piotr rather than Anger at Zsaji was part of how she kept from being caught?

 

Amokitty

Kitty breaking into the Professor's secret files cracked me up. I loved it!

 

Kirayoshi

Goddes of computers.

 

melodyrider

Actually, I don't think time in Marvel passes at the same rate characters age in marvel. They jumped straight from Haloween to Christmas Eve in the space of one issue back then, and quite a bit of time passed when the new team of X-Men were training right after Giant Size #1

 

Author376

She could have killed herself knowing that if she was brought back to her homeworld she would be exacuted...and decided to try to do something good to spare her family some kind of bloodprice for her crimes.

 

MadR

I kind of liked Zsaji....the whole aftermath is what reduces me to rage blackouts.

 

Kirayoshi

Oh, I'm currently on a new computer.

 

Amokitty

Wow, what does that say of me then? I hate that stupid bimbo's GUTS. Oh well, la-dee-da!! ;)

 

MadR

Excellent take on evil-Zsaji though!

 

MadR

New computer? Cool.

 

Kirayoshi

My old one died.

 

Kirayoshi

Fried motherboard.

 

Kirayoshi

I decided it'd cost less to get a new computer, especially since I was planning on upgrading my OS to Vista

 

Author376

Maybe Zsaji was an outcast instead, who couldn't form proper empathic bonds and was looking for a compatable mate? She tried with Piotr, but didn't get it quite right and suicided out because she realized it would wear off soon and she'd always be alone?

 

Xakko1

you went Vista? you're a braver man than I

 

Xakko1

we need a new computer, and I'm honestly considering going Mac

 

Author376

Good choice, what kind of computer did you get. Beware Vista, it sends all sorts of private information to Microsoft.

 

Kirayoshi

I considered Mac but the prices are too high for me.

 

MadR

That's excellent too. And that's the thing...since Zsaji didn't speak english...we'll never know 'her side of the story.'

 

Author376

I'd love the new super skinny mac notebook, but I can't afford it either.

 

Kirayoshi

Interesting idea, 376

 

Amokitty

I think Zsaji was a slut. There. I said it. That tramp came on to Johnny Storm and when he was too busy trying to save the world, she immediately "falls" for Peter! A likely story! Talk about man-hopping!! ;)

 

Amokitty

We hate Vista. it killed our computer.

 

Kirayoshi

And considering that Johnny forgot her before the series even ended, what does that tell you about Peter?

 

MadR

Heh. I need a new hated character to reform now that I don't think I can look at Pete Wisdom.

 

Kirayoshi

What did Pete do now>

 

Kirayoshi

?

 

Author376

That could fit in with the "looking for a compatable mate" though. She was trying to find which one was closest to her incompatable empathic bonds...found out piotr was closer...but realized even her hold on him would fade with time...and eventually discovered his feelings for kitty and just gave up...

 

Author376

What did Pete do now, I also repeat.

 

MadR

Paul Cornell turned out to be an amazing asshat and I don't want to encourage anyone to read Wisdom/support him.

 

Kirayoshi

Did the first issue of Captain Britain and M13 come out?

 

Xakko1

Johnny Storm couldn't focus on one woman for more than 5 minutes. He's a male bimbo

 

Kirayoshi

He has written some good Doctor Who scripts.

 

Author376

I remember your thing about Cornell's "daterape" isn't rape thing. Tar and feathers anyone?

 

Amokitty

Please, PLEASE do this, 376!

 

Author376

Johnny storm is a male bimbo, and skank.

 

Kirayoshi

Just after SW, though, they had him finally find the Right Woman, in the person of Alicia Masters.

 

MadR

The date-rape played for laughs that TPTB are denying even happened on Torchwood. Cornell's the guy actually denying it.

 

Kirayoshi

Unfortunately they made her a Skrull a few years later.

 

Kirayoshi

Ah.

 

Amokitty

But we KNEW he was an ass-hat, dear. At least as a writer... now we know he's no better as a person.

 

MadR

Which is why I'll never watch Doctor Who or Torchwood or Sarah Jane Adventures, either.

 

Amokitty

I'm just starting to get into Sarah jane, too! it's RUINED.

 

Author376

I always wanted to see someone write a short where he had to go to Dr. Richards and ask for some kind of cream because he's "picked something up" from one of his dates, Johnny I mean.

 

Xakko1

ok, quick poll - Alicia Masters and...

 

Kirayoshi

I'd say Ben, mainly because they ruined her and Johnny with that whole Lyja debacle.

 

Author376

I like the Alicia and Ben

 

Amokitty

OMG! 376!! *cracks up*

 

MadR

But see, she was stuck up and turned Owen down, so he squirted her in the face with alien pheromones and she went home with him. Can't you see that was funny? eyeroll.

 

Kirayoshi

And I will never understand why so many people like Lyja, she was a lame retcon!

 

Kirayoshi

Not to mention that they did that plotline in the early 80s in Legion of Superheroes!

 

Author376

A lot of guys just wanted him to get away with sleeping with his best friend's girl I guess.

 

MadR

Heh. Ultimate F4 sort of did that....Johnny picked up a parasite and thought it was an alien Mpreg situation.

 

Xakko1

I'm kinda glad I wasn't reading FF at the time. I've always loved Ben/Alicia

 

Amokitty

At least Byrne had the balls to try it. No one can ever say he and Claremont weren't trying infuse new material into their books.

 

Amokitty

Marrying Johnny and Alicia this is...

 

Author376

Oooh, mpreg with Johnny. That must have been REAL panic.

 

Kirayoshi

Byrne did the coolest thing with Doom's origin.

 

Author376

Yes, Doom's origin there was spectacular!

 

Kirayoshi

He established that Doom only got a hairline scar in the accident that 'marred him for life'.

 

Kirayoshi

But because of his vanity he thought the scar was hideous.

 

MadR

OMG, that's Doom canon now? Hee!

 

Author376

Then he went and slapped a red hot magical mask over his face, didn't he? later I mean.

 

Kirayoshi

And he's supposed to be the super genius of the MU?

 

Kirayoshi

Yeah, right!

 

Amokitty

I was collecting FF at the time, Xak.  The Johnny/Alicia ship didn't go over well at the time, but I didn't really care because i was sighing over Wyatt Wingfoot and Jen. They made an AWESOME couple.

 

Kirayoshi

Whatever happened to Wyatt anyway?

 

Xakko1

I never got to know Wyatt

 

Kirayoshi

Oh, he was an old friend of the FF from the Stan/Jack days.

 

MadR

I heard that Doom really only had a tiny scar...but always shrugged that off on a level with the Wolverine origin: actual mutant Wolverine.

 

Amokitty

Wyatt is... wow. Super cool.

 

MadR

Wyatt Wingfoot. One of the better Amerind characters.

 

Amokitty

Wyatt is in limbo for some stupid reason!!! He and Jen were MEANT for each other dammit!

 

Kirayoshi

From what I read, Kirby had the idea that Doom's initial scar was tiny, but Stan Lee preferred having his face burned.

 

Kirayoshi

Given what they've done with Jen, he's better off without her.

 

Author376

Okay, thanks for the clarity Kira!

 

Kirayoshi

He's probably anti-Reg anyway.

 

Author376

Considering the reservations, I think anyone of that heritage would be Anti-Reg.

 

Amokitty

Oh I'm sure he is, K! heh heh

 

Kirayoshi

Of course, Shulkie's gone anti-reg herself.

 

Xakko1

I still don't get why Jen was pro-Reg. Slott let me down there.

 

Kirayoshi

Or at least anti-Stark

 

Kirayoshi

She was a lawyer, the Registration act was the law, she was sworn to uphold the law.

 

Kirayoshi

Makes sense to me.

 

Author376

I don't like this Tony Stark, I want the old Tony back.

 

Amokitty

I’m sure wyatt was, and as the only Indian in the room, yes I can safely say that we think Registration sucks. Thank you.

 

Amokitty

:D

 

Kirayoshi

From what I've read, they'

 

Kirayoshi

they're trying to have Tony make up for some of his boneheadedness in the near future.

 

Kirayoshi

I say first they should get him away from SHIELD>

 

MadR

Any interest in the Iron Man movie, or do we still hate Tony Stark too much?

 

Kirayoshi

In fact, SHIELD should be mothballed.

 

Kirayoshi

I'm interested.

 

Amokitty

Well good luck with THAT Marvel, cause everybody hates Tony now!

 

Xakko1

I'm going. I'm actually excited for the movie

 

Kirayoshi

Tony without the baggage of Civil War is a cool cat.

 

Author376

Do you know that the government owes the American Indians almost as much as the National Debt in back rent on land that you technically own and they've been "managing"? I found that out back in High School and just can't believe it. 200 some odd years and they didn't even take any records of all the money they collected...

 

Xakko1

movieverse Tony /= evil slimeball registration Tony

 

Kirayoshi

I hear Robert Downey Jr. does a cameo in the Hulk movie.

 

MadR

The novelization was pretty cool...Peter David of course. And the FX look fantastic.

 

Amokitty

Oh I'm definitely seeing it next weekend, Rose. For good or ill, I'm seeing it.

 

Xakko1

I heard that too. Very cool. I wish Samuel L. was in both

 

Xakko1

Friday Iron Man, Saturday the Police & Elvis Costello, Sunday Avenue Q

 

Author376

I can't wait for the movie. It gives me hope that this Tony is a Skrull using the turmoil to prep for an invasion of Earth. Destroy all superpowered humans who could stop us sort of thing... Wishfully lives in her own little world.

 

Kirayoshi

Samuel L will also play the Octopus in the Spirit movie next year.

 

MadR

Busy weekend, Xak.

 

Xakko1

yup

 

Author376

Very busy, but sounds fun.

 

Xakko1

and the 3rd is Free Comic Book Day

 

Kirayoshi

I still say get Tony out of SHIELD, and then mothball SHIELD for good.

 

Author376

Oooooh, free comics.

 

MadR

...The Spirit...there's a movie?

 

Kirayoshi

SHIELD is infested with Skrulls, once SI is over the government decides to abandon it entirely

 

Author376

yep, do SHIELD IN FOREVER!

 

Kirayoshi

There is.

 

Kirayoshi

And Frank Miller is directing.

 

Kirayoshi

From what I've seen of the teaser trailer it's going for Will Eisner meets Sin City vibe.

  still_deb left.

 

 

Amokitty

As a matter of fact, 376, i did know that. The Dept. of the Interior, Bureau of Indian Affairs has a lot to answer for. And sadly, we answer to them. They even have all the names and families of every registered Indian in this country. And yes, I'm registered - *sigh* You have to in order to get any benefits due. You have to prove you're Indian. god, don't get me started.... lol.

 

MadR

Hm. Sam J Jones did an unreleased pilot for a Spirit tv series...I think....with Nana Visitor. Ooh, I hope that ends up on the DVD as an extra.....slaps self.

 

Kirayoshi

Either mothball SHIELD or have Nick Fury restructure it as an independent unit.

 

Author376

Oh, no, they don't abandon it, they reform it as an "ambassadorial orginization reaching out to superpowered individuals of all kinds" then they put Beast in charge of it!

 

Kirayoshi

The only time SHIELD was ever effective was during the Steranko era stories.

 

Kirayoshi

I have the trades and the art kicks ASS!

 

Kirayoshi

The dialogue is way overwritten but still fun in a sixties kinda way.

 

Author376

I know about the "Proof" thing. When my dad was doing our family tree we tried to get records from them. I think my great great grandfather was Blackfoot, but we got no records from them despite all of the paperwork.

 

Author376

We have a great mid nineteenth century tintype of the big meeting where the Blackfoot chiefs signed the treaty with the American Govt. prior to the great westward expansion that my great grandmother saved though. They are all sitting around in front of a teepee with the metals the president sent.

 

Xakko1

so, how's everyone's fanfic going?

 

Kirayoshi

slow

 

Kirayoshi

I'm still getting my new system fully working.

 

Amokitty

That's wonderful, 376. There isn't a lot of photographs of Indians in that time period!

 

MadR

Picked up Bannik in the Bathroom to look at it....but haven't written any new X-stuff yet.

 

Author376

Unquiet Dreams is going well, I'm about 3 chapters away from done. Pryde and Glory Born needs an outline overhaul, and now I need to write that Zsaji Alternate ending story.

 

MadR

Hoping to get some writing time tomorrow, depends on how long looking for a new bumper for the truck takes.

 

Xakko1

gah, yes, read that in your lj, Rose

 

Author376

Ooh, I loved Bannick in the Bathroom. You said you were looking for a Jewish spirit or something to use? I don't know of anything but I thought it might be fun to turn some disapproving devoutly jewish great aunt of Kitty's loose on Piotr to make him sweat.

 

Kirayoshi

I was considering writing a brief Colossus/Juggernaut scene set in J Harper's post-Deathless arc.

 

Amokitty

Has your Aris binge run its course (for now)?

 

Kirayoshi

I'd send it to him first for approval.

 

Author376

"So, which synagogue do you attend?" She asks.

 

MadR

Yep, life hasn't been dull around here.

 

Kirayoshi

I'm also working on my Kim Possible fic, The Staff of Sun Wukon.

 

Amokitty

Kirayoshi that's a fantastic idea! i'd love to read that!!

 

Kirayoshi

Wukong, I mean.

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melodyrider

Welcome back, deb!

 

Author376

Piotr squirms and looks to kitty for help, but she's talking to someone else and the little old ladies beady eyes focus on him meanly... Sorry, I just loved that story about the bannick to death MadR!

 

Amokitty

Deb! You're back! yay!

 

deb

hi again

 

Author376

Salutations deb!

 

MadR

Bannick: I wanted a zinger for an ending...kitty freaking out over the bathroom spirit only to have a jewish 'kitchen spirit' thing she doesn't know about. That kind of got axed...so I need a new ending.

 

deb

i must have a kitchen demon instead of a nice spirit

 

MadR

I'm hoping to put the SG-1 fic on the back burner and write more X Men fic now that I've taken a little break...but the plotbunnies are strong...

 

Amokitty

Ah! It's a part of your block then Rose?

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Author376

Can't deny the plotbunnies. All mine are X-Men fans, though.

 

Amokitty

The plotbunnies shouldn't be ignored, though!

 

Xakko1

whoops, K left?

 

Author376

Yep, Bye K!

 

Amokitty

I got one too, Deb. An EVIL kitchen spirit. But at least it likes my cooking!

 

MadR

I even have the crossover ones....the Shi'ar have those square stargates...and I;d love to see Aris's face when Kitty walked through a shield trap.

 

Amokitty

I predict K will return!

 

deb

i started an electric stove on fire boiling water. definately a demon

 

Author376

I have nice Kitchen spirits, but my mother chases me out of the kitchen so I don't get to cook often, and my cooking is actually good!

 

Xakko1

it seems to have followed you here, Deb

 

Author376

Shall we have an exorcism, or attemt to lead it away with internet porn?

 

deb

it follows me everywhere. i'm klutzy

 

Xakko1

Trekkie Monster?

 

Author376

mutant tribble perhaps?

 

Amokitty

I'm super klutzy, maybe thats why my kitchen's a mess??

 

deb

my demon's blushing

 

Amokitty

ha!

 

Author376

I always clean up my messes, but I walk into doorframes so I'm pretty klutsy as well. Sorry I embarrassed your demon...

 

deb

::laugh

 

Amokitty

Xak, how is BoM coming along?

 

Author376

Oooh, speaking of demons... the new hellboy movie looks wonderful!

 

Author376

Yes, oh BoM is great!

 

deb

yeah we saw the preview at forbiden kingdom

 

melodyrider

afk

 

Xakko1

BoM is going slow

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Xakko1

I'm wondering if I can wrap it up

 

Author376

That's probably better, my stories go so fast they steamroll me. I keep getting like two hours of sleep.

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Amokitty

Why is everybody leaving?? Weird.

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Xakko1

rehi K

 

Kirayoshi

Sorry 'bout that.

 

Amokitty

Knew you'd be back, K!

 

Kirayoshi

Slight system issue on my part.

 

Author376

Hi, Kira and Deb, mean software again?

 

Xakko1

deb will be back, she's having issues with multiple windows

 

deb

sorry, demon tap danced on laptop :-)

 

Amokitty

that happens to me a lot!

 

Author376

The demon wasn't stripping was he?

 

Xakko1

I didn't plan out the last battle as well as I should have. I have an ending. Getting there is an issue

 

Amokitty

I just spit coke at what 376 said! :D

 

deb

no it was singing and dancing to hello my baby

 

Amokitty

"hello my rag time gal!"

 

Author376

Hello my ragtime gal! Send me a kiss by wire, baby my hearts on fire....

 

MadR

Xak, you can always rewrite.

 

Kirayoshi

And then when someone else looked at it, it crouched and said 'ribbit'?

 

deb

well now that songs stuck in my head

 

Amokitty

Jinx!!!! I finally did it!!!! Yessssss1

 

Xakko1

"Oh no, not again"

 

Author376

Whee!

 

Amokitty

woo-hoo1

 

Kirayoshi

I loved that cartoon!

 

Author376

It was great.

 

deb

beers are owed now

 

Kirayoshi

It's the 'Citizen Kane' of animated shorts!

 

Xakko1

* was thinking of the scene in Spaceballs

 

MadR

Heh. Remember when Michigan J Frog was the mascot of the WB network?

 

deb

both were greatness

 

Author376

Oh, with the alien rip off? I don't want the special!

 

Amokitty

laughing out loud, here!!

 

Xakko1

check please!

 

Author376

Is the flying RV gassed up?

 

Kirayoshi

Remember when there was a WB network?

 

deb

waiter there's a singing frog in my soup

 

Xakko1

and yes, Rose, I remember when the WB launched, it was practically on the backs of Pinky and the Brain

 

Author376

Yes, I did take my medication this morning, what are you implying?

 

Kirayoshi

Hey, has anyone seen that new Spider-Man cartoon, and if so, is it any good?

 

Amokitty

.... still laughing!

 

Author376

I haven't seen it, but I've heard good things from some of the kids I've been working on projects in the local schools with for my Edu class.

 

MadR

I keep meaning to check it out....forgot about it.

 

Xakko1

when is it on?

 

Kirayoshi

Just as long as the phrase 'You just hit the jackpot' was involved in MJ's first appearance.

 

Author376

but if they also like yugi-oh.... I don't know what to say about today's twelve year olds.

 

MadR

Like the Fantastic Four cartoon, I can never remember when it's on.

 

Xakko1

I only want the FF cartoon on DVD for one episode.

 

Kirayoshi

"I WILL NOW PLACE THE I'M RUBBER YOU'RE GLUE CARD FORWARD, TRAPPING YOUR MAGIC DOHICKEY!"

 

deb

and bright orange screaming ninja kids WTF????

 

Xakko1

(the one with Squirrel Girl)

 

melodyrider

back

 

MadR

I haven't heard anything about Wolverine And The X Men lately either.

 

Kirayoshi

I understand it's exclusive to Nickelodeon starting in the Fall.

 

Author376

I want wolverine and the X-Men to have Kiotr. Her looking like she's twelve could be a styleistic thing if they are influenced by anime...

 

Kirayoshi

Maybe it'll be in the same block as the final season of Avatar.

 

MadR

That's the last I heard, but I think it was Nicktoons.

 

Amokitty

I hope you're right, 376. Otherwise we're looking at zero Kiotr.

 

Author376

Ooh, fell over...leg fell asleep...

 

MadR

That would be a great hour of animation. They probably won't do it.

 

deb

shake it off, shake it off

 

MadR

I also heard Avatar was airing in July.

 

Kirayoshi

I'm curious as to what Shamilyan(sp?) will do with it.

 

Xakko1

"what a twist!"

 

Amokitty

Xak, why is BoM going slow? I f you don't mind my asking?

 

Author376

Really, though, I looked at a better caption of Kitty and it looked like a styleized 15 or 16 year old to my training, but I'm not sure without seeing more.

 

MadR

Live action Avatar is going to be....different.

 

deb

m. night shamalamadingdong

 

Xakko1

I can't seem to get things to flow. I am trying to juggle all of the different arenas, and they're all fighting for space and time, and none of them are actually coming out on to the page

 

Xakko1

(like they're stuck in the door in a Marx brothers scene)

 

Kirayoshi

I'm curious about the Wachowski bros. take on Speed Racer.

 

MadR

I haven't even sorted out how I feel about Mako's death and Uncle Iroh since they haven't let the new guy talk. So I'm not sure how I feel about a live action cast.

 

Amokitty

All of them revolving with nowhere to go?

 

Amokitty

Go Speed, go!!!

 

Xakko1

well, I've got the Limbo bit - with all these characters that need attention (tho' Doug & Lock have to get things moving)

 

Author376

Okay, I have a loded question. In the sequel to Unquiet Dreams Joseph keeps getting in the way of my plot. While Killing him off fits in well, I just like him soo much... I could also have Emma alter his memories as well (part of how she deals with Kitty after getting Piotr kidnapped and faking his death) or I could have him stuck in a telepathically induced coma and have Kitty think he died. I need a bit of input so I don't upset people too badly.

 

MadR

Xak, have you tried outlining it?

 

Xakko1

then I need to get things on Earth as well.

 

Kirayoshi

I recognized John Goodman, Susan Sarandon and Christina Ricci in the trailer.

 

MadR

Emma altering his memories would be interesting.

 

Amokitty

Don't kill him!!!! There's too much death already 376 - please spare poor old Joseph!

 

Author376

He needs to play with his great grandkids anyway, huh?

 

Amokitty

I died when saw Spriedle and Chim-chim!

 

Xakko1

I'm still working on my original outline, Rose. there were four lines related to this chapter. I think I had something like "climactic battle scene"

 

MadR

Yeah, your Joseph is one of my favorite OCs...I'd vote against killing him more than for anything else.

 

Kirayoshi

Yeah, I like Joseph.

 

Xakko1

"i've got a monkey!"

 

Amokitty

Yes, 376, he does! It's one of those things he's living for!

 

Author376

I thought so, I just kept having him throw a total wrench into Emma's plot too soon for the story. Mabye a sabatical to Jerusalem induced by Emma?

 

Kirayoshi

Meanwhile the Hobbit movie is up and running, with Guilermo Del Toro directing.

 

MadR

Xak...maybe try breaking it down further. Climatic Battle Scene: This group of fighters. These group of fighters. That group of fighters. Just...broad detail of what needs to happen next in what order before you actually try writing the scenes.

 

Amokitty

Xak, if Kitty, Peter, and Illyana gang together and take Belasco out, then i can pretend Quest for Magik never ever happened! My dream would come true. :)

 

Kirayoshi

What a wonderful idea!

 

MadR

I need to do that a lot when I write action...sort of trying to see what's going on everywhere at once before pinning it down in description.

 

Author376

The thing is, Emma is going to convince Kitty that she was raised by Joseph in the Uppercrust, groomed to be part of the hellfire club, is her good friend, and I'm going to have Shaw moving in on Kitty...It's complex. And a nice detailed outline always helps. My outline for Unquiet Dreams is like 12 pages long.

 

Author376

I also write outlines for each battle sequence

 

Amokitty

Are the fighters in their own groups, Xak? Both in limbo and on earth?

 

Amokitty

I'm definitely liking the Hellfire idea, 376. It ties in with what Claremont wanted to have Emma accomplish with Kitty from Day One.

 

deb

xak's stopping puff from eatting the chair at the moment he'll brb

 

Kirayoshi

If that's what you're planning, I suddenly find myself rooting for Emma's grisly death at the end of the arc.

 

Amokitty

Is a chair leg getting attacked, Deb? ;)

 

Author376

Are you sure that your demon isn't puff in disguse?

 

MadR

I try to write outlines. To at least have a basic idea of what the story is going to be. I mostly get short scenes and lines of dialogue and have to knit them together.

 

Amokitty

Not Puff! She's an angel these days, right Deb?

 

deb

other then eatting my house all the time, yeah

 

MadR

376, I cannot wait to read that!

 

Author376

I was thinking about what Clairmont wanted Kitty to become or Emma was trying to acomplish with what Emma is going to try to do with Kitty as she's grieving for her "lost husband". She'll remember the X-Men as something she did in the summers, but blame them for Piotr's death thanks to Emma. I'll also have Emma take her to London to deal with the pain...

 

MadR

Ah rabbits. Nibble nibble nibble like a tribble tribble tribble....

 

Kirayoshi

Ugh!

 

Author376

I have a cat, not a rabbit, but she'll eat anyting, even onions and mushrroms

 

Kirayoshi

This is getting complex!

 

Amokitty

376, peter's going to go insane isn't he?

 

Author376

My stories are always complex. Nope, Piotr won't go insane, but he may smoosh Sebastion Shaw.

 

deb

puff tried to get my girl scout cookies earlier. that would have been bad

 

Author376

Out of pure evil I'm tempted to make Pete Wisdom appear and be gay, but it's just a temptation and I won't succomb.

 

Xakko1

back again.

 

Amokitty

I notice no one's talking about the latest Uncanny at all. I take it that it didn't impress anybody?

 

Kirayoshi

I want Kitty to personally take down Emma in the final act.

 

Xakko1

BoM has expanded greatly from its original concept.

 

MadR

Bwa! That would be a nice dig at Ultimateverse!

 

melodyrider

Uncanny was just a little too 'middle chapter.' Not enough really developed, but it did have some nice moments

 

Amokitty

Aw, but Pete would be so dashing if he were gay! And he'd dress better too! No more boring black suits all the time! I LOVE that idea!! LOVE IT.

 

Author376

Emma and Kitty will have a big show down at the end. I just haven't decided how Kitty will beat her. Will she outdo her with sneakyness by becoming the red queen of the British hellfire club? Or will she just phase her diamond heart out of his chest.

 

Xakko1

the funny bit is, I have the little code to BoM almost completely written.

 

Kirayoshi

I just had a Jack Harkness flashback.

 

Author376

Gay guys can be sloppy too and gross. I have artist friends who are gay and total slobs

 

Author376

That's a total stereotype...that just happens a lot.

 

Amokitty

I love Uncanny's art. I think Choi is simply wonderful. I can't believe he's not sticking with the book. Marvel has a good thing with Choi, but we're getting the Dodson's instead. Cheesecake on acid. Ugh.

 

MadR

Writing out of order helps too, sometimes. Work your way back to what you can't get out.

 

Kirayoshi

I'd like to see Kitty renounce Emma's influence, rather than fight her on her level myself.

 

Amokitty

Code?????

 

Kirayoshi

I thought Dodson was exclusive with DC these days, doing Wonder Woman.

 

Author376

Thank you for the input. I didn't think I'd do the whole "red queen thing" but it has it's appeal. Like I said. The ending is the thing I'm really stuck on.

 

Xakko1

It's mostly that I'm feeling overwhelmed. When I separated them, I could give Kitty, Peter, Kurt, and Dani their due.

 

Amokitty

The teddy bear types usually are, 376. But is Wisdom a spy in your story? Spies, even gay spies must be atired appropriately. ;)

 

Kirayoshi

I could see Kitty's psyche fighting back.

 

Kirayoshi

Shades of her battles with Ogun.

 

Amokitty

The Dodson's are the new artists on Uncanny. It's official.

 

Kirayoshi

Lovely.

 

Xakko1

Now, I feel I need to make everyone an integral part of bringing down Belasco.

 

Kirayoshi

I like their art, it's just that it's associated with Kete in my mind.

 

Author376

I think I'll tackle the alternate Zsaji story before i try to tackle it. As to Wisdom, yes he is a spy, I don't think I'll write him suave, and he'll probably see the signs of her psyche fighting back, figure it all out, and help her get back to Piotr and rescue him.

 

Xakko1

(not to mention the promised scene with Squirrel Girl kicking ass)

 

Author376

Yes, let everyone hlp bring down Belacoso, and Squirrel Girl must kick butt.

 

Kirayoshi

The cult of Squirrel Girl.

 

Author376

wasn't an order, just falling asleep

 

Xakko1

I started a lot of fights in the last chapter, and it'll take a bit to wrap them up. The Sentry, Iron Man, Thor, Dr. Strange...

 

MadR

If something doesn't work though, it just doesn't work. I've come up with neat scenes for stories that didn't fit. So if someone has to be offstage during the big fight because that's the only way it'll write itself....

 

Amokitty

Just so long as Illyana gets her licks in Xak, then she throw all the others what pieces of belasco are left. I also vote to see S'ym die an agonizing death. Preferably at Peter's hands. :) Bloodthirsty tonight, aren't I? :)

 

MadR

The Squirrel Girl bit I would love to see, though.

 

Xakko1

Do you think S'ym can even remotely be hurt by Peter? It didn't seem so in previous experiences (except when he was techno-organic, that is)

 

Amokitty

K, are you taking about the Pryde and Wisdom, right? I know what you mean.

 

Kirayoshi

He has a smooth art style, if his females are somewhat bosomy.

 

Kirayoshi

Not as bad as Frank Cho though.

 

Kirayoshi

I'd have gone with Carlos Pacheco myself.

 

Kirayoshi

You ever see his Avengers Forever?

 

Kirayoshi

Dynamite stuff!

 

MadR

brb

 

Amokitty

S'ym could be weakened enough by Illyana for Peter to finish the job. Personally, i'd like to see his chest caved in! but that's just me. ;)

 

Author376

smushing the bad guy is always gratifying!

 

Amokitty

Definitely!

 

Xakko1

hrmmm... what if Dani could take out S'ym? I have Kitty & Piotr's role set for the final bit.

 

Kirayoshi

I had a thought, Author. What if it turns out that Mr. Wright is part of Emma's plans regarding Kitty?

 

Amokitty

Dani would work. Absolutely. :)

 

Author376

I would like to see Dani take out S'ym, but Piotr doing damage is just a staple. I trust your writing skill completely

 

Amokitty

I'm with 376. :)

 

Author376

Where?

 

Amokitty

Heh heh heh.

 

Author376

Not in the closet, the litterbox is in there! You'll never get out alive!

 

Amokitty

don't I know it. I have 2 cats!

 

MadR

Gang, I hate to be the next one to turn into a pumpkin...

 

Kirayoshi

Aw, already?

 

Author376

WE have 7...people kept leaving kittens for dead where my mom used to work...Now I'd love to see a short where Piotr caught someone dumping kittens and gave them hell...

 

MadR

but it's been a busy weekend with the car accidents and grill assembly and whatnot...

 

Amokitty

Oh no Rose, darn it. i wanted to know more about Essential Colossus...

 

Kirayoshi

Maybe in that Warrior with No Name fic?

 

Author376

oh, Well, I bid you a find fairwell and goodnigh/morning.

 

Kirayoshi

Cya later, Mad.

 

Author376

Warrior with No Name is looking good!

 

MadR

Um, still writing Essential, haven't worked on it tho.

 

Amokitty

I'm so glad you came though! Thanks for sticking around as long as you did, hon!

 

deb

g'nite

 

MadR

Good night all! Had fun typing to ya!

 

melodyrider

Sorry to see you leave so early, Rose

 

melodyrider

Good night!

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Amokitty

Good night, Rose. and thank you.

 

Author376

In the eastern timezone it's one AM...

 

Amokitty

Crap. Never fast enough. *sigh*

 

Author376

I'm still here, though!

 

Amokitty

Yay for that!

 

Kirayoshi

Oh, 376, Like your latest chapter, but one error I spotted.

 

Author376

Please inform me, I swamped my Beta and she gave up on me!

 

Amokitty

brb

 

Kirayoshi

The verb form of 'reconnaissance' is 'reconnoiter'.

 

Kirayoshi

As in, "Go up ahead, reconnoiter the ravine and report back."

 

deb

it's 1:02am

 

Author376

reconnoiter...My open office spell check misses and weirdly corrects words it doesn't recognise sometimes. I'll go fix that.

 

Kirayoshi

No big.

 

Xakko1

brb

 

Kirayoshi

I make mistakes like that too.

 

Author376

yep, one oh two here in Kentucky as well

 

Author376

I always find a bunch of mistakes when I re-read but by then I'm 1/2 way through the next chapter and afraid that if I stop I'll loose my place.

 

Author376

I can't belive that I've written over 200,000 words since the end of January...especially since it was only supposed to be about 100,000 long.

 

Author376

I. Have. No. Life...and I like it.

 

Kirayoshi

I'm still trying to figure out a major plotline for "Family Reunions"

 

Kirayoshi

I started with a cool idea but I'm still trying to think of a major plot for Grigor.

 

Author376

Oh, I love Family Reunions. What have you considered for the plotline? If you have a list of possibles.

 

Xakko1

I really envy you, 376

 

Xakko1

writing for me seems like a struggle at times

 

Author376

Grigori...He could still want to take over Russia...Maybe spark a war with the United States so that he could have the whole turmoil thing going again.

 

Kirayoshi

I know that Grigor is currently seeking women to serve as breeding stock so he'll have descendants to possess in the future, and may consider taking Kitty as one of his unwilling 'brides'.

 

Xakko1

oh my.

 

Kirayoshi

Debating whether he'll get involved in current Russian politics.

 

Author376

I envy you guys your stories as well. They are slower, but they are so well thought out.

 

Kirayoshi

I'm looking forward to Pete working with Piotr to save Kitty.

 

Xakko1

I'd love to finish before Giant Sized Astonishing comes out

 

Author376

I've toyed with the Idea of Anya Isenbergs mother being Anastasia Romanov. If she was indeed related it could be a reason why she is bound to Piotr and why Grigori would want her. It comes from an aborted plotline I wrote involving the whole "family curse" thing that I couldn't work in.

 

Author376

I just want Pete to annoy Piotr by asking him at least once: "So does Kit still like it when you..."

 

Xakko1

whoa - having an "Anastasia" flashback. with Bartok the bat

 

Author376

Loved that movie!

 

Kirayoshi

J Harper suggested a scene like that, where Pete says, "It bugs you, doesn't it, that I got her first."

 

Amokitty

And she's back!

 

Author376

If you wanted the backsotry I could send it to you?

 

Kirayoshi

Piotr then calmly answers, "And yet she's upstairs, waiting for me. And personally I'd prefer her company to yours."

 

Author376

I'd love to see that scene.

 

Kirayoshi

I'd see Pete trying to get under Piotr's skin, but Piotr not taking the bait.

 

Amokitty

Do you suppose it DOES bug, Peter? 616 Peter, that is. We all know that he assumed that Kitty would give her virginity to him. Hell, we ALL assumed it back then.

 

Kirayoshi

He wasn't himself back in Excalibur #90.

 

Kirayoshi

But now he is, and he won't give Pete the satisfaction.

 

Amokitty

Backstory?? I've missed some stuff darn it!

 

Author376

I think it bugs him, but only because he blames himself for loosing the relationship he had when she was young. He wouldn't let it show though, because that would demean Kitty.

 

Kirayoshi

It might, but considering how he lost his virginity, that's "Pot, you're black" said the Kettle.

 

Author376

You haven't missed anything. I have pages and pages of outlines for every OC I develop on my laptop.

 

Amokitty

Very true, K!

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Amokitty

We're irresistable aren't we, Xak?

 

Author376

Indeep, very true. Probaly doesn't bother him, but just a kind of nostalgic regret sort of thing he has at moments. A "What might have been" sort of thing that all of us do.

 

Author376

We must be

 

Kirayoshi

Like I said, Grigori is trying to breed future hosts for his psyche, that's why he strangled that hooker in chapter 2.

 

Amokitty

You always come back! ;)

 

Kirayoshi

She's a bad penny.

 

Author376

I liked the hooker death, it really shows how bad he is without going into supervillian cliches. Very well done!

 

Xakko1

back again. darn Verizon

 

Xakko1

had to reboot the modem

 

Amokitty

Grigory wanting Kitty would make Peter give into that Rasputin rage most assuredly, and it's something I'd LOVE to see.

 

Kirayoshi

When she was no longer useful to him, he killed her.

 

Xakko1

very Grigorian, K

 

Amokitty

OH! he didn't!!

 

Author376

Lovely. And it refernced his coarseness in real life.

 

Kirayoshi

Oh yeah, I definitely see Piotr opening up the Family Sized can of Whoop-ass on him!

 

Amokitty

Oh Xak.... *covers face* ;)

 

Author376

I'd love that as well. Especially with your lovely fight descriptions. I'm better with character moments than fights. The fights kill me.

 

Author376

Oops, did I just really type that?

 

Kirayoshi

Same here.

 

Kirayoshi

Fights are tough.

 

Author376

The fights kill me...sheesh...BAD pun, very bad pun, no cookie.

 

Amokitty

*laughs at 376* this is getting contagious!

 

Xakko1

Fights are the hardest part, I think

 

Kirayoshi

Pacing them especially.

 

Author376

Especially keeping the characters straight and who they are fighting.

 

Kirayoshi

Spider-Man 3 wasn't the best superhero movie, but the fight at the end was very well choriographed.

 

Xakko1

true.

 

Author376

That is was, but I wish they'd left Gwen Stacey out of it, that would have made for a totally different movie

 

Kirayoshi

I'm watching Fellowship of the Ring.

 

Xakko1

the big battles are even harder in print than in a comic, where an artist can render the background

 

Kirayoshi

Gandalf's about to take down the Balrog.

 

Author376

Oh, Lord of the Rings. Balrog. Drools in Nerd moment

 

Amokitty

I pretty much hated everything about Spidey 3. How could Sam Raimi go so low?

 

Kirayoshi

Now THAT was a fight!

 

Author376

midlife crisis

 

Kirayoshi

He was forced to use Venom.

 

Xakko1

I'm listening to "the battle of Czolgosz"

 

Amokitty

That makes sense!

 

Author376

Yes, it had me clapping in the theater!

 

Kirayoshi

If he hadn't, the movie would have worked better.

 

Kirayoshi

I'd have split it into two movies, and made Harry more of a schemer.

 

Author376

Venum was awkward. He's the sort of villian that needs his own movie

 

Amokitty

the Sandman aspect should've been delved into more I think.

 

Kirayoshi

Instead of having him tell MJ, "Dump Peter or I'll kill him", I'd have him slyly convince Peter that MJ was cheating on him.

 

Author376

That would have been much better.

 

Amokitty

Yeah, undermine him psychologically.

 

Author376

and it would have worked with Peter's insecurity issues.

 

Xakko1

I guess I was just disappointed by all 3 Spidey movies.

 

Kirayoshi

Peter would grow darker under the symbiote(and not just this lame Nutty Professor shtick), and finally shake off the symbiote toward the end of SM3.

 

Amokitty

The dancing thing and the slapping thing were too much.

 

Xakko1

emo Peter was just plain awful

 

Author376

I hated that Nutty Professor routine. Left the theatre and ate popcorn in the lobby.

 

Kirayoshi

At the end of SM3, he'd decide to try and get MJ back, while Harry goes totally over the end and becomes the new Goblin(and in a real Goblin costume, huh?) while the symbiote bonds with Eddie.

 

Amokitty

Does anyone know when Hulk is hitting the theaters?

 

Author376

You should have written those things Kira.

 

Kirayoshi

SM4 would then deal with the new Green Goblin and Venom.

 

Kirayoshi

When he finds Tony in them!

 

Kirayoshi

Badoom-ching!

 

Amokitty

Wait, Connors needs his due, too. The Lizard needs to be in #4!

 

Author376

Oh, now I'm all over the Lizard, I am afraid of the tiny ones so he makes my skin crawl

 

Xakko1

that's another CGI intensive enemy...

 

Kirayoshi

How about Gerald Butler as Kraven?

 

Amokitty

Yes!!!!!!!

 

Xakko1

or would you try to do it with prosthesis?

 

Kirayoshi

Butler wouldn't need prosthesis to do Kraven.

 

Kirayoshi

Seriously, Lizard in SM4, ending with Peter and MJ's marriage(take THAT, Joe Q!)

 

Author376

No, no prosthesis. I hated the Beast makeup in X3. I don't see why they used it after they proved what CGI is capable of with Gollum!

 

Amokitty

With Colossus they did a combo of CGI and prosthetics/makeup, didn't they?

 

Kirayoshi

then SM5 they could do Kraven's Last Hunt.

 

Author376

Yep, it was a combination, but you can tell when they relied too much on either. It would have been more fluid had they stuck to a CGI masking program overlay thing on top of a spandex green suit on the actor.

 

Xakko1

so, when are we staging the coup at Marvel?

 

Amokitty

Agreed. Peter looked better in X-2.

 

Author376

I'm free next weekend!

  deb left.

 

 

Author376

Darned Verizon

 

Xakko1

deb's saying g'nite... she's too tired

 

Amokitty

I'm actually dropping more books. I think maybe I'm outgrowing their stupidity.

 

Kirayoshi

later, Deb.

 

Author376

Oh, sorry Verizon. Goodnight Deb!

 

Amokitty

Good night, Deb! thanks for coming by! :D

 

Xakko1

they're pulling me in with a lot of classic stuff

 

Xakko1

but the new stuff - yeah, not so much

 

Author376

Why buy their books when we can write better? On that note, is Amokitty still witholding her smutfluff?

 

Kirayoshi

I still want to see Hellboy 2.

 

Xakko1

me too, K

 

Author376

Yes, I do want to see hellboy to.

 

Xakko1

I'm starting to really dig Hellboy.

 

Author376

He's a likeable demon.

 

Kirayoshi

Looks like Del Toro's more like what he did with Pan's Labyrinth with this one

 

Xakko1

Maybe I'll write that Hellboy/New Mutants crossover I outlined in the LWW writing contest

 

Kirayoshi

Anyone here ever see Pan's Labyrinth?

 

Author376

He had a better budget this time around. Just took him a few years to get it.

 

Xakko1

not yet, K.

 

Author376

nope

 

Amokitty

I haven't been able to work on any smut lately, unfortunately. ;) I've been taking care of sick people including myself, dealing with family drama, you name it.

 

Kirayoshi

You have your assignment.

 

Kirayoshi

You must see this movie.

 

Author376

I hope that your life gets less complex.

 

Kirayoshi

It is both one of the most beautiful and one of the ugliest movies ever.

 

Author376

And that you have more fun.

 

Xakko1

gotcha. we have a free rental from blockbuster

 

Author376

And less being sick.

 

Kirayoshi

It's a Spanish-language picture, but don't let that scare you.

 

Xakko1

deb says that she knows that it ends a certain way (not specifics) and is reluctant

 

Author376

I don't watch a lot of movies. I'm always writing. That's how I have so much stuff. Just no life, absolutely no life.

 

Xakko1

being less sick (that's to you AND mark) would be awesome

 

Kirayoshi

And the human villain, Capitan Vidal, is possibly the most evil character in any movie ever!

 

Xakko1

oh, and 376, I'm VERY busy next weekend.

 

Author376

Too bad...

 

Kirayoshi

I'

 

Xakko1

so no coup at Marvel

 

Amokitty

Thanks, but if i ever finish the thing i could always let you see it, 376. So long as you take into consideration that I'm no writer, then you'll be less disappointed. :)

 

Kirayoshi

I'm doing Bloomsday next Sunday.

 

Xakko1

bloomsday is the 4th?

 

Kirayoshi

Yep.

 

Xakko1

but that's Jedi Day

 

Kirayoshi

First Sunday in May

 

Author376

Stop being mean to yourself. You realized that I had hundreds of pages of Kiotr stories I wrote out by hand in High School and threw away because I thought they were no good?

 

Amokitty

but think of how you enrich OUR lives, 376!! Now isn't that what's REALLY important here?

 

Xakko1

and instead of reading Joyce, I'll be watching puppet sex

 

Author376

I'm just glad to know other people like my favorite ship.

 

Kirayoshi

Saturday after work I'll swing by the Bloomsday trade show for some freebies, then to the Comic Book Shop for more freebies.

 

Author376

pupper sex?

 

Xakko1

Avenue Q

 

Amokitty

Now that just makes me sad, 376. the joy you've denied us... what a shame.

 

Kirayoshi

Oh, and if you live in a town with a Hastings Entertainment store, they participate in Free Comic Day too.

 

Author376

Oh yes, and I totally rewrote the 3 Star Wars Prequels and threw that away too.

 

Author376

So don't be mean to yourself, you don't know what other people will really think.

 

Kirayoshi

I wrote a few crappy X-themed stories myself.

 

Kirayoshi

I actually tried doing a Colossus/It's a Wonderful Life crossover.

 

Kirayoshi

Pure drivel.

 

Kirayoshi

This was back in high school.

 

Author376

I wrote novel length stories that were about like the Stolen Child series but more canon.

 

Xakko1

especially for an athiest

 

Xakko1

Hi, I'm Clarence! Nyet! I do not believe in you!

 

Kirayoshi

I also had an idea where Ultron was Wolverine's creator, and Logan turned out to be Kitty's real father.

 

Author376

In High School I wrote and drew because the classes in Kentucy were so easy I didn't have to pay attention.

 

Amokitty

Well I certainly am familiar with all the work every of single person here tonight, so it's easy to make comparisons with your stuff and mine. :) It's okay you know. I absolutely love basking you guys’ presence! So in a way, I write vicariously most of the time through you. :)

 

Kirayoshi

Hey, George didn't believe in Clarence at first.

 

Author376

I wrote a Wolverine Origin where he was actually Adam, and cursed by God to Live eternally for the real reason that he was thrown out of Eden. When Lilith refused to be dominated he created Eve from his rib and violated the mandate about creating life without God's permission. ect, ect, ect..

 

Kirayoshi

OY!

 

Amokitty

OMG, I'm dying at the It's a wonderful Life thing!!

 

Author376

Thank you for the Kind words Amokitty. If there is anything in particular you want me to write I do take oneshot requests of up to about 10,000 words in length.

 

Kirayoshi

My theory was that Ultron's powers included reshaping Adamantium, so he was able to bond the metal to Logan's bones.

 

Amokitty

That is INSPIRED, 376! *tips hat*

 

Author376

The Wonderful Life thing would have made a great comedy.

 

Kirayoshi

He also shortened Logan's arms and legs and reshaped his face with plastic surgery so Kitty's mom wouldn't recognize him.

 

Author376

I threw the Logan as Adam thing away though. I had about eighteen spiral bound notebooks when I tossed it in Senior year.

 

Amokitty

376 - Oh REALLY? You'll be seeing a request from me soon, count on it!!

 

Author376

All I need is a free weekend and a 10,000 word story isn't that hard for me. If you send me a request I'll email you an outline for approval and then write it. I did that as a birthday present for a friend.

 

Author376

I actually enjoy writing things like that, since it helps me not bog down on my big stories.

 

Amokitty

That's an incredible present. wow...

 

Xakko1

wow.

 

Author376

That goes for anyone who wants a story.

 

Amokitty

K, do you have an origin for Peter? One that doesn't involve Sinister, perhaps?

 

Xakko1

376, are you looking to go professional?

 

Author376

Do you mean a regular origin or the one for Stolen Child?

 

Author376

No, I'm an art teacher. I've never wanted to write professionally.

 

Amokitty

What is your favorite artist, 376? And who do you think is Peter's?

 

Amokitty

"Who" not what, good grief my mind is going....

 

Author376

My favorite artist? Ooh, hard question. I favor the dutch masters, personally and I always aquated Piotr's taste as varried, but distaining modern "gimmick" art as lacking craftsmanship.

 

Author376

What is actually better than who. Since Who defines the person and What defines the art, by which you should judge the artist.

 

Kirayoshi

Ironically, Peter's current favorite artist is Alex Ross.

 

Amokitty

So Peter wouldn't be a fan of Impressionism? Or would he like the realism involved with say, a Mary Cassatt painting?

 

Author376

really?

 

Kirayoshi

He's also a Beatles fan.

 

Amokitty

Who ISN'T a fan of Alex Ross?? :D

 

Kirayoshi

Seriously, the first time he and Kitty made love, he had a tape loop of "Here There and Everywhere", "Something" and "If I Fell" in the background.

 

Xakko1

Dan Didio, I imagine

 

Amokitty

LOL>

 

Author376

I think Piotr would like Impressionism as it was an honest exploration of what art is and how it evolves. But wouldn't like Picasso since he ganked other peoples' styles and then sold them through marketing. Nor do I think he would like things like some of the gross out art or shock art you see nowadays.

 

Kirayoshi

Considering that Ross is doing new Superman and Batman covers, I don't think he hates Ross.

 

Xakko1

oh yeah, it was Ross who hated "Infinite Crisis"

 

Kirayoshi

Along with anyone who read the damn thing!

 

Amokitty

I could see how the 'simplicity' of Monet and the subject matter of Cassatt's work would resonate for Peter.

 

Author376

I can see the beatles.

 

Xakko1

he was really pissed at what they did to Sue Dibny

 

Kirayoshi

Albeit I am curious about Final Crisis, mainly because of Grant Morrison.

 

Kirayoshi

Grant Morrison is always interesting at least, and I think he works better with DC than with Marvel.

 

Amokitty

*I'm* still pissed at what happened to Sue Dibney!

 

Kirayoshi

Actually Ralph and Sue are making a comeback.

 

Xakko1

really? Sue? back?

 

Amokitty

*squeals* REALLY???

 

Xakko1

how? Superboy gonna punch again?

 

Kirayoshi

Their ghosts have possessed couples in Batman and the Outsiders.

 

Amokitty

Oh.... i was hoping the Dr. Light crap was retconned.... damn it all.

 

Xakko1

they killed Ralph too? boy, I've missed a lot of stuff I don't really care about!

 

Kirayoshi

At one point we see a male and female pair of snipers, who in the middle of a job are suddenly talking differently and making out.

 

Kirayoshi

Ralph died at the end of 52.

 

Amokitty

They made him nuts.

 

Xakko1

the only DC we get is Birds of Prey, Nightwing and Justice

 

Kirayoshi

Am I the only one left who wants to see Oracle appear in Nightwing once more? Just for closure?

 

Author376

closure would be nice.

 

Author376

Not like it's going to happen in any comicbook

 

Xakko1

That pissed me off. I love Dick/Babs

 

Kirayoshi

Although I'd prefer getting them together!

 

Amokitty

I really think that it will never be entirely over for Babs and Dick. They have too much history for that to be ignored forever.

 

Author376

I'm evil but I always thought Dick and Kory were cute and the Alien princes thing sucked.

 

Kirayoshi

DIck and Kory were an interesting couple, but that ship has sailed.

 

Xakko1

my first exposure to Kory was in the X-men/Teen Titans story

 

Kirayoshi

Oh, when she kissed Colossus and Kitty was jealous?

 

Author376

It has sailed. I just like it while it was in port.

 

Xakko1

yup

 

Kirayoshi

Great Simonson artwork in that one.

 

Author376

The artwork was wonderful. Probably what caught me.

 

Kirayoshi

Of course Piotr was a little jealous of Gar in that one too.

 

Xakko1

it may not quite have sailed yet, since a lot of newer fans may come to the comic through the cartoon.

 

Amokitty

Dick and Kory were cute, but they never had much depth to their relationship. And the Blackfire/Royal Family stuff just got so stupid. It could never work out for those two.

 

Xakko1

which was very heavy on the Robin/Starfire thing

 

Kirayoshi

Starfire from the cartoon bears little resemblance to the far tougher Kory from the comics.

 

Author376

Yes, the animated Teen Titans was, but the comics with the royal family thing did ruin it.

 

Xakko1

true

 

Kirayoshi

Starfire's "stranger in a strange land" routine in the cartoon was a bit much.

 

Author376

Cartoon Starfire was a bit "off" in many ways.

 

Xakko1

but I thought the solits for upcoming Titans hinted at Nightwing/Starfire

 

Amokitty

Again? Oh brother.

 

Kirayoshi

They actually did get them together in the Teen Titans cartoon movie, "Trouble in Tokyo".

 

Xakko1

cartoon Starfire was almost in perfect contrast to emo-Raven

 

Kirayoshi

Shades of the third season Kim Possible finale, which ended with Kim and Ron getting together.

 

Kirayoshi

I kinda liked Raven in the comic.

 

Author376

What did eveyone think of Kim and Ron getting together?

 

Kirayoshi

About damn time!

 

Xakko1

never really watched it. *shrug*

 

Kirayoshi

I loved the Graduation finale, when Ron kicked the aliens' butts to save Kim.

 

Amokitty

This illustrates why Kitty and Peter will ALWAYS be considered a mainstay couple. They'll go in circles just like every damn couple with a long history and following. Only Lois and clark, and Reed and Sue are exempt.

 

Xakko1

thanks to Quesada

 

Xakko1

Peter/MJ should be there too

 

Kirayoshi

He's the reincarnation of the Monkey King.

 

Kirayoshi

Ron, I mean.

 

Author376

Some of the kids I work with on my art projects in the Edu classes treat the topic like a political debate, so I was curious. I don't watch Kim Possible more than to catch it here and there.

 

Amokitty

Yep, thanks to Joe Q nothing is sacred. Nothing.

 

Kirayoshi

From what I've heard, sales are declining for the Spider-Man titles.

 

Author376

A reincanation of the Monkey King is actually interesting, though. For all it's pretty much sacrelidge.

 

Amokitty

Why doesn't that surprise me?

 

Kirayoshi

I say by ASM #600, we'll be seeing some Peter/MJ romancing of some sort.

 

Xakko1

Joey Q's getting really snippy about it, isn't he?

 

Amokitty

They've gone so far back in SM, who the hell likes a 'do over'??

 

Kirayoshi

I discovered Kim Possible by chance and liked it. It's like Buffy without the angst.

 

Kirayoshi

I'm convinced that Mephisto has some master plan, and his tampering with Peter and MJ was just the opening salvo.

 

Author376

That would make sence, knowing Mephisto.

 

Xakko1

I think you are giving them too much credit

 

Kirayoshi

I've heard that there's a big magic-themed arc next year.

 

Kirayoshi

There was the recent Major Arcanna mini, and a Marvel Tarot one-shot.

 

Xakko1

true. which almost makes me worry about them bringing back 'Yana

 

Kirayoshi

So something is being set up.

 

Kirayoshi

Plus in New Avengers, Dr. Strange said that his own magic powers were increasingly unreliable, and he even had to use dark magic at one point.

 

Xakko1

didn't they just do something in DC about that? the Shadowpact or something?

 

Kirayoshi

Maybe when he retconned the Parker marriage, Mephisto also made some changes in the magical structure of the MU as well.

 

Author376

So Dr. Strange is slipping, Mabye Illyana will replace him as Sorceress supreme? (crosses fingers).

 

Kirayoshi

Thus making himself more powerful and weakening any enemies.

 

Amokitty

Who thinks Kitty dies, raise your hands! If so, does the magic bullet kill her, or something else? I'll be beside myself if Kitty doesn't get the chance to see Peter again before the end of Giant Sized Astonishing.

 

Kirayoshi

I think that the X-Men will believe Kitty to be dead, but there will be an out.

 

Amokitty

If not, then what do you think happens to her?

 

Author376

I'm already boycotting comics (can hardly not do so with gas at almost 4 bucks per gallon) but if they kill Kitty I'll just keep writing and ignore the forever more.

 

Kirayoshi

Either Illyana, or the Phoenix Force.

 

Xakko1

I think she was going to be killed off, but they rewrote the ending, causing the delays

 

Author376

I think Kitty will get saved by the means K suggests, but I also think there is a pregnancy coming up. Or maybe she just hides and doesn't get word to Piotr for a while.

 

Author376

She's certainly got every reason to leave the X-Men right now.

 

melodyrider

I'm confident whatever happens to Kitty will be what Whedon planned from the start

 

Kirayoshi

I'm more or less not reading Marvel, but I do enjoy Nexus now that it's back.

 

Kirayoshi

Steve Rude is one of my favorite artists.

 

Xakko1

got a connection, MR? anything you can share?

 

Author376

I hate Whedon's quote about giving the fans "what they need" rather than "what they want". It reeks of forgetting who pays the bills.

 

melodyrider

You mean a theory, Xak?

 

Xakko1

I didn't know if you knew a guy (or gal) who knew a guy or gal who knew Whedon

 

melodyrider

No, I don't Xak.

 

Xakko1

I would just feel better if there was some REAL reason that we've experienced over a year of delays

 

Amokitty

With so many months between Astonishing books I think some changes have been made. What they are, I don't know, but there's been nothing since January. Giant Sized keeps getting pushed back, and I think it's for a reason. I will say that I think the book really will be released on May 21st. I think it's in the can - finally. But watch Marvel make a liar out of me!! ;)

 

melodyrider

I hate the delays, but even this is nothing compared to how long some issues of Fray took to come out

 

Xakko1

I think it's funny that Whedon was barely on my radar when he startedon Astonishing, since I wasn't a Buffy fan

 

Kirayoshi

The problem with the constant delays is that they kill the momentum the series was building.

 

Amokitty

Marvel policy would have never accepted delays like this once upon a time. That would be the ONLY good thing about Shooter as EiC.

 

Author376

It's past two o'clock in the morning here, and as much as I hate to, I should be leaving soon. Is there anything anyone wants to mention before I sign off? Requests, fanfic suggestions, veiled or straitforward insults? All will be happily accepted!

 

Xakko1

have a great night, 376, glad to see you tonight!

 

Amokitty

Insults??? LOL.

 

Xakko1

(this morning)

 

melodyrider

Good night,, 376!

 

Kirayoshi

Some Kiotr fluff stories inbetween your chapters for that Hellfire Club arc you're planning.

 

Kirayoshi

As a palate cleanser.

 

melodyrider

Oops, misread that :)

 

Kirayoshi

Later, 376

 

Amokitty

I want to see Kitty empowered and pissed off! have her kick Sinister's ass! *nods*

 

Amokitty

Thank you 376 for coming tonight! It's appreciated! :)

 

Kirayoshi

And then polish off Emma for dessert!

 

Amokitty

Yeah!

 

Author376

Lovely to talk/type with you all....You'll need to be more specific than fluff. Like an exact request for what happens. Example. 13 year old and 19 year old Kitty nd Piotr go out on a date and Piotr gets harassed in New York by Law and Order SVU detectives...Kitty's too pregnant to kick Sinisters ass at the moment. But Scott may melt it a bit. Emma's a much more likely possibility.

 

Author376

Email me with any requests you think up!

 

Kirayoshi

Will do.

 

Amokitty

Will do, count on it!

 

Amokitty

Have a great weekend! :)

 

Kirayoshi

and any fluff would be between consenting adults.

 

Author376

Good moring and goodbye to everyone!

 

Kirayoshi

Later!

 

Amokitty

Night!

 

Kirayoshi

And I should be taking off too.

 

Kirayoshi

Peace out!

 

Author376

Of course it would be between consenting adults! I'm a teacher!

 

Xakko1

g'nite K

 

melodyrider

Night, 376!

 

Kirayoshi

Much love to one and all.

 

Author376

B'bye!

 

Amokitty

Thanks K fro coming!! it means a lot!

 

Kirayoshi

KIOTR LIVES!!!!!!!

 

Amokitty

It does indeed. :)

 

Author376

KIOTR FOREVER!!!

  Kirayoshi left.

 

 

melodyrider

And night K, too!

  Author376 left.

 

 

melodyrider

Guess I should have done that in reverse :)

 

Amokitty

I'm almost never fast enough to catch anyone before they go, so this time I'm grateful!

 

Amokitty

Do either of you read Capt. Britain and MI - 13? Is it even out yet?

 

melodyrider

I think it doesn't come out until late May

 

melodyrider

The week before GSAXM comes out, possibly

 

Xakko1

I'm not touching the Capt Britain book

 

Amokitty

Is that due to Cornell or general disinterest?

 

Xakko1

both, actually.

 

Xakko1

first, I'm not interested in Secret Invasion, which makes the beginning issues not interesting

 

Xakko1

but I also think Cornell deciding that Brian isn't an alcoholic is a bad start.

 

Amokitty

I'm interested in Brian, and to a lesser extent Wisdom. The rest I simply don't care. I fear the book is so heavily Brit centric that it won't feel 'fan-inclusive' for lack of a better word. Its target audience is a group of people that doesn't involve me at all. And because of it, I really do think this book is doomed to fail. Which in a way is sad, because I think Capt. Britain deserves his own book.

 

Amokitty

At least Cornell isn't lacking for a job! LOL.

 

Xakko1

I don't know if Cap can carry a book anymore, do you?

 

melodyrider

I'd prefer it if they tried something closer to what Excalibur was, but the idea of centering the focus on MI-13 could prove to be interesting. Cornell's profiles on the characters worries me greatly, however, and I have a feeling I'm not going to like the title very much

 

Amokitty

I agree about Brian's alchoholism. Ignoring canon like that is silly. That storyline had and could continue to have relavance.

 

Xakko1

it isn't ignoring canon- it's just Cornell's interpretation that the facts don't fit the description of "alcoholism"

 

Amokitty

The concept of MI-13, RCX, whatever the hell it's called these days is a great one. So long as past history is respected to build new stories.

 

Xakko1

I agree. And some of his plots have been great

 

Xakko1

I just don't like his characterizations.

 

Amokitty

I DO think Brian has the potential to carry his own book. It had a family feel to it once upon a time with supporting charcters like Courtney, Meggan, Emma, Mastermind, Linda and Rick, and it's own rogue's gallery. There's a wealth of stories to be told with Brian's history. I don't like it being ignored. Just my opinion. :)

 

Xakko1

yeah, but there's no Meggan... ::sad

 

Amokitty

Exactly. And no one is doing anything about it. Ignoring that just pisses me off. I'd MUCH rather see Megan than John the Skrull.

 

Xakko1

* wonders idly if he can pull Meggan into the last BoM chapter

 

melodyrider

That'd be fun!

 

Amokitty

It's almost like Cornell is trying to re-invent British characters, which I dont like at all. I think a blend of classic Capt. Britain and classic Excalibur with a few new twists would be great. But that's not to be. Which is why Claremont destroyed everything he did with it just like Austen did when he left.

 

Amokitty

I'd love that!! That would be incredible!! *big grin*

 

Xakko1

I think that might be too much, tho'

 

Xakko1

I'm in enough trouble as it is

 

Amokitty

You got that right! You're pretty much playing with the whole Marvel enchilada as it is! ;)

 

Amokitty

But that's also another reason why I love the story. It gives a gravity and a sort of 'majesty' if you will to it.

 

Amokitty

It's a grand, epic sort of story. :)

 

Xakko1

thanks

 

Amokitty

And it's nearing its end, right?

 

Xakko1

If I can get moving on it

 

Xakko1

I think the real world bits have to be cut down - maybe just short bits to intercut the Limbo battle

 

Amokitty

When Giant Sized Astonishing comes out, Mel won't have any more excuses for Adventrures of Kitty Pryde to be delayed! ;)

 

Xakko1

heh

 

melodyrider

This is true

 

melodyrider

Although I am planning to tackle the story very seriously this week, since I'm taking it off work

 

Amokitty

Vacation, Mel?

 

melodyrider

Yep! Haven't taken one since I started my job

 

Xakko1

that's cool!

 

Amokitty

Xak, have you worked on the X-Harry x-over lately?

 

Amokitty

That's great! You'll get your own Spring Break!

 

Xakko1

nope... I've been pretty much blocked on everything

 

Amokitty

Have you thought about writing one-shots of something entirely different to get over the writer's block? Even if it's another genre? In fact, what other fandoms would you like to write about?

 

Xakko1

I don't really have any other muses talking to me right now.

 

melodyrider

I'm afraid the only muse I have at the moment is telling me it's time to go to sleep :)

 

Xakko1

oh my

 

Xakko1

g'nite MR!

 

Xakko1

enjoy your vacation!

 

melodyrider

Good night, you guys!

 

Amokitty

heh, I understand that. I'm getting over being sick! ;)

 

melodyrider

It was nice chatting with all of you :)

 

Amokitty

Thank you Mel for visiting tonight!

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Amokitty

Enjoy your vacation1

 

Amokitty

Missed again…. so what else is new? *sigh*

 

Amokitty

Do you read Exiles, Xak?

 

Xakko1

yes, I've been picking it up

 

Xakko1

I wasn't terribly impressed with the most recent issue

 

Amokitty

I thought it was claremont's worst effort in a quite a while. I love his version of Kitty, but I'm not into Cat Pryde. I can't like her and can't help it.

 

Amokitty

Sage has become a parody of herself, and i fear Betsy might.

 

Xakko1

this is true.

 

Xakko1

how about you, are you feeling betteR?

 

Amokitty

I'm trying to psche myself up for the time when Kitty is gone, and know that I'll have to make do with all these other versions... yuck.

 

Amokitty

*psyche* I should say....

 

Amokitty

I'm doing better, but I'm not fully recovered yet. almost though! :)

 

Amokitty

And of course fanfic can be consoling as well, but I fear the Kiotr fandom will take a hit with Kitty gone.

 

Xakko1

yeah. i keep saying it'll be nice to save money, but then they turn out things like the Classic New Mutants vol 3

 

Xakko1

so they manage to get my money anyway

 

Amokitty

MY LCS didn't have it! I was so bummed about that.

 

Xakko1

that's too bad. Demon Bear in trade... great stuff

 

Xakko1

they have Counter X X-force in this months Marvel Previews

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Amokitty

I know.... and instead I get Ultimate Spider-man with Kitty and Spidey having to do 'parent duty' on a toy baby while fighting Ultimate Omega Red. Geez.

 

Amokitty

jeremy!!!!!!!!!! :D :D

 

Xakko1

Jeremy!

 

JHarper

Hello.

 

Amokitty

Hello my dear!

 

Xakko1

how ya been?

 

JHarper

I'm okay. Nothing much happening.

 

JHarper

I see I must have missed most of the chat.

 

Amokitty

But you still have us!! *looks hopeful* :)

 

JHarper

:)

 

JHarper

I got home a half-hour ago. I was visiting a friend in Rhode Island, and I just found out about this chat.

 

Amokitty

This was very very spur of the moment for us, but I'm so glad you came!

 

Amokitty

How was Rhode Island?

 

JHarper

It was okay. We just talked, played a little Portal. That's about it.

 

Amokitty

So long as you had fun, that's all we ask.

 

Xakko1

fun is good

 

JHarper

Yeah.

 

Amokitty

Have you read the latest Uncanny and Wolvie 1st Class?

 

JHarper

I haven't been to the comic store in a month, when I went down to clear most of my sub out. I'm afraid I'm pretty much done with comics.

 

JHarper

I'll probably still get Usagi Yojimbo, and Knights of the Dinner Table, but I'm sick of Marvel.

 

JHarper

And I have no interest in DC.

 

Xakko1

I can understand that

 

Amokitty

I'm not far from that either. Having Pixie join Uncanny is something I'm NOT looking forward to. In fact, I really don't have anything to look forward to at all... Hmmmm.

 

Amokitty

I was telling Xak that fanfic is all we have left, really.

 

JHarper

A buddy of mine recently gave me Secret War. Five issues of bombast resolving nothing, answering no questions, just to get Nick Fury off the stage. This just reinforces in my mind Bendis is a mediocre hack - and this guy, along with that asshole Millar, is the primary architech of the Marvel Universe right now.

 

Xakko1

Bendis is a contradiction for me - I love Powers, like Alias and Ultimate Spider-man, and dislike everything else I've read

 

Amokitty

It feels like there's no progression. Just re-hashes of everything that came before.

 

Amokitty

The only thing I'm seeing that's truly innovative is fanfic.

 

Xakko1

it's all about big money making events for both publishers

 

JHarper

I'm just pretty tired of it all, period. I'm tired of paying money for something that just irritates me.

 

Xakko1

so the question remains - what about your original work?

 

Amokitty

Excellent question there!

 

JHarper

I'm working on something now. Wrote a little of it today. I'm trying to get more disciplined about my writing. I'm tired of squandering my talent, just as I'm tired of seeing my friends squandering their talent. My buddy Joe has had opportunities as an artist that I'd give my eyeteeth for the equivalent as a writer, and he hasn't done anything with him. He's had IDW interested in his Transformers drawing. He's practically been offered an apprenticeship with DC. He's penpals with the artist who drew the web comic The Makeshift Miracle, who offered to get him work at Udon Studios. Yet he hasn't taken advantage of any of it, 'cause he doesn't think he's good enough, and can't concentrate on one thing at a time.

 

Xakko1

gah

 

Amokitty

Wow, you'd think that kind of notice would motivate him to more driven when he's so close to succeeding. But insecurities are their own demons, and are a battle to tackle.

 

JHarper

I'm no better. I waste my time on forums, or surfing the net.

 

JHarper

And I wonder if I'm good enough, as well.

 

Xakko1

based on "DEathless" - hell, yes

 

Amokitty

I absolutely agree.  Jeremy, your work is of such high caliber that I really don't have the words to adequately describe how important it is and the potential it carries.

 

JHarper

Last week, I begged Joe to stop wasting he's time and do SOMETHING. I told him that time is our enemy, and that did he want to look back at his life, when he was old, and think it wasted because he didn't even try. He's working on some stuff now - short superhero stories, using original characters. I'm going to keep at him until he can't stand it anymore. He's made some good progress on his first story. Hopefully he'll have something up in a few weeks time.

 

JHarper

Thanks guys.

 

Amokitty

We're only speaking truth, Jeremy. Your skills are something to be appreciated. Nothing good and worthwhile ever came easy.

 

Xakko1

how the hell is Amy Poehler twice as influential as the Dalai Lama?

 

JHarper

?

 

Amokitty

Excuse me? Amy Poeler from SNL???

 

JHarper

Don't know her.

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Amokitty

LOL!!!!

 

JHarper

Xak has dissapeared.

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Amokitty

Well, he'll be back! :)

 

JHarper

And he's back.

 

Amokitty

and there he is!!!

 

Xakko

DSLharf

 

Amokitty

Verizon owes you money for this, Xak.

 

Xakko

we think Verizon's crapping out on us because we refuse to go to Fios

 

Amokitty

Fios? amy Poehler? I'm so confused. :D

 

JHarper

Anyhow, I started an original story, today. Got some done on it, will try to keep hacking at it regularly. After I finish it, I'd like to finish tearing down walls, if only to start the round robin.

 

JHarper

Nah, we're just incompetent at Verizon. :)

 

Xakko

Fios is their fiber optic line, but they remove your copper line when they install, making it impossible to switch carriers

 

Amokitty

Kirayoshi mentioned tonight that he had a plot involving post-Deathless Peter and Juggernaut.

 

JHarper

I remember that one. I'm inviting him, you, Xakko, and Rose for the Round Robin.

 

Xakko

as for Amy Poehler, the Time 100 voting is up. And Shigeur Miyamoto is leading, followed by Rain

 

Amokitty

Why how very proprietary of them! *eyeroll* Verizon is such a monopoly, they're getting as bad as Microsoft.

 

JHarper

I can't complain too much about them. They're paying me well.

 

Amokitty

Me??? *looks more confused*

 

Xakko

well, technically they own the copper lines. they're just forced to rent them out to other phone companies

 

JHarper

I sorta meant, you Xakko, but you're welcome to try if you want, Amo.

 

Xakko

but after the international bill from calling Ian, I would really prefer that we find a different internet and phone provider

 

Amokitty

Ha! Always good to appreciate your job! ;)

 

Xakko

oh, speaking of jobs, we were basically told yesterday that if McCain is elected and implements his healthcare plan, our company would probably fold

 

JHarper

Ouch....

 

Amokitty

heh, you're definitely better off without me…

 

Xakko

unless it's smut, right Amo?

 

Xakko

::biggrin

 

JHarper

:)

 

Amokitty

I'm cracking up.... * sigh* I freely admit i love fluffy smut porn. Well, Kiotr fluffy smut porn anyway....

 

JHarper

Author376 seems rather prolific in that genre.

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Xakko

Author376 reminds me a bit (at least in productivity) of Rose a year or so ago (maybe longer)

 

Xakko

gah!

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Xakko

welcome back

 

JHarper

Accidently clicked off.

 

Amokitty

She's damn good at lovely fluffy porn! Not too graphic, lots of emotional details. :)

 

Amokitty

that's the tightrope, how to write sexy without delving into seedy? ;)

 

Xakko

heh. my mom loves her FIOS, Jeremy

 

Xakko

I just am pissed over the $500 phone bill

 

JHarper

Ow...

 

Amokitty

I'm so glad that the job is successful. Money is always good. Niiiice money.....

 

JHarper

:) It is.

 

JHarper

anyhow, I'm feeling pretty whipped now. I wanted to say hi, and I hope you're all doing well.

 

Amokitty

Yeah, you've had quite the day! But I'm really happy you got to stop by for a bit!

 

JHarper

Thanks, Amo. I'll be in touch. You guys take care.

 

Amokitty

thaks for coming tonight, Jeremy. :)

 

Amokitty

good night, Jeremy!!

 

Xakko

g'nite Jeremy

 

JHarper

G' night. :)

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Amokitty

That was so cool that he got to stop by!

 

Amokitty

I was really afraid that few if any would show given how late the chat came about.

 

Xakko

are you feeling better now?

 

Amokitty

I do wonder how many will come if Giant Sized Astonishing comes out when it's supposed to. if it does then a Chat would be held Memorial Day Weekend, and I'm not sure how many could come.

 

Xakko

I'm fairly sure I'll be here

 

Amokitty

I'm getting there! I'm hoping it'll be a VERY long time before I come down with flu again. I couldn't get the shot this year due to medical circumstances, so i knew I was taking a chance. *shrugs*

 

Xakko

yeah... it really seemed to kick both your butts

 

Amokitty

It completely kicked my ass. I couldn't believe it. I know flu can kill the elderly, but now I know just exactly why. Some strains are worse than others.

 

Xakko

* nods.

 

Xakko

anyway, it's 20 to 4 here...

 

Xakko

and I think I'd better get to bed

 

Amokitty

I know. :)

 

Amokitty

Yep.

 

Xakko

sleep well and feel better

 

Xakko

and we'll chat again fairly soon

 

Amokitty

Xak, thank you as always for coming early and staying late like you always do.

 

Xakko

I'm always glad to see you...

 

Xakko

and chat about stuff with all the cool people here

 

Amokitty

Likewise and always my friend. :)

 

Xakko

::smile

 

Xakko

g'nite!

 

Amokitty

You and Deb have a nice Sunday!

 

Xakko

you too

 

Amokitty

Good night! :)

 

Amokitty

Wow, for such an impromptu get together this evening I’m thrilled that so many managed to come.  LOTS of thanks to Xakko, Author 376, Madripoor Rose, Melodyrider, Deb, Kirayoshi, Darkbat, and Jeremy Harper for taking the time to visit tonight, given such short notice.  I have high hopes that Darkstorm5000 and Starsinger can come by next time (it’s never the same without you guys!).  With any luck we’ll get to finally discuss Giant Sized Astonishing X-Men during Memorial weekend.  Until then, take care everyone.  Good night.

   

 

     
     
   

Madripoor  Rose’s  Boozeburgers

 

2 pounds ground beef
1/2 cup beer
1/2 cup fine dry bread crumbs
1 teaspoon seasoned salt
1/4 teaspoon pepper
1/2 cup finely chopped onion

Mix beef, beer, breadcrumbs, salt, pepper and onion. Shape into 8 thin patties. Grill for 4 minutes on a side or until done.

Serve with potato chips and garlic pickle sandwich slices, and sliced tomato


~From The Cat Who cookbook based on The Cat Who mystery novel series by Lillian Jackson Braun