Transcript for KIOTR Chat  -  March 27, 2010
Topic: Uncanny X-Men #522

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Amokitty

Uh.... somebody beat me to the punch!!! Hi there Jeremy!! :)

J_Harper

Oh, hey Shari. :)

Amokitty

And here I thought I was early.... heh heh.

J_Harper

Glad I checked. I was surfing the net. I came early - didn't realize this was for 10.30, but I decided to wait.

Amokitty

Isn't great to chat again? Kiotr fandom has been so damn depressing, it's nice to have something to cheer about. We are loooooong overdue.

J_Harper

:) True.

J_Harper

Though I'm afraid I haven't been following anything, right now. The only comic I'm getting right now is DC's First Wave.

Amokitty

I'm gonna have to play catch-up, but the real question is: do I wanna?? From the little I've heard the stories really haven't gotten any better. At least people are coming back from the "dead" and not just Kitty either. Guess I should just be grateful. ;)

J_Harper

True. Better than her staying lost, though I hoped that her return would have been more... epic. Just not Magneto grabbing the damn thing.

Amokitty

That was a big letdown for me. The round robin plot ideas were so much cooler (and far grander) than what this was. After the sacrifice Kitty made I was thinking she might get something a little more meaningful, but nope.

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Amokitty

Plus, I'm really irked that we didn't get to hear Peter's thoughts either.

J_Harper

Hey Author.

author376

Hi!

Amokitty

Oh 376!!! Wonderful to see you!!! :D

J_Harper

After how Fraction handled Peter in that arc? Perhaps we should be grateful we didn't get a peek into his thoughts!

author376

It's wonderful to see you too! May I offer you hugs?

Amokitty

Ha!! You gotta point there!

author376

I have to agree with Jeremy, after how fraction handled things it might be a blessing...

Amokitty

Yes, my dear! I'd love one. :) Stepping up to the plate now. :)

author376

HUGS!!!

Amokitty

*hugs you back tightly*

author376

*returns hugs and pets your poor little head* :D

Amokitty

It's so ridiculously awesome to have everybody back.

J_Harper

Anyhow, I'm pretty much through with most comics. Actually I was, then hearing what DC did to Arsenal's little baby daughter just through the last of the dirt onto the grave of my enthusiasm.

author376

It really is, Amo, isn't it? I need to do another Kiotr prompt post...

J_Harper

threw.

Amokitty

376: hell yeah you do! The last one you did at the comm went over in a big way.

author376

Oh, Jeremy I"m right there with you. What DC did to Lian is criminal and tasteless besides. I had just *started* spending money on the things and now... yeah, no.

author376

I'll try to do a drabble post in the next few days then! :D

Amokitty

Oh god, Jeremy. What happened to Arsenal's kid?? And have the Titan's killed somebody for it???

J_Harper

I mean, I'm not going to cry and say I was a big fan of the Arrow Clan, but still, that was dispicable.

J_Harper

you didn't hear? Prometheus was responsible for Lian's death, along with thousands of civilians.

author376

Long story short, they fridged Lian to give *Green Arrow* more angst because the stories in the arrow family now totally focus around him and run down the other characters. :(

Amokitty

OMG Stupid, stupid, stupid.

author376

I will grant Amo a big AMEN for that, and I'm not even Christian...

J_Harper

And the JLA just let him go. Then, I heard, while Prometheus was gloating in his undetectable inter-dimensional lair, somehow Green Arrow snuck up on him and shot him through the head.

J_Harper

This is after Prometheus outfought, single-handedly, a squad of the JLA.

Amokitty

Well I'm glad somebody did. Was kinda thinking Roy might do it....

J_Harper

So not only was it gratuitous, it was stupid as well.

J_Harper

And, of course, now all the heroes are going to turn on GA for killing a mass murderer.

author376

I hated that whole bit with Green Arrow suddenly pwning Prometheus. Ollie's good, but not that good. The whole thing was some of the worst writing I've seen in years, and stupid besides the simple bad quality Jeremy is right.

Amokitty

I have no idea what is going on now, and I'm sure that's pretty obvious *snickers*, so I'm glad you're keeping me up to speed.

J_Harper

DC always has a habit of offing kids. Byrne killed Donna Troy's ex, stepson and biological daughter. And before that Toyman - the Toyman for crying outloud! - murdered the son of one of Clark Kent's co-workers at the Planet.

author376

I'm only really aware of things through fandom and scans_daily over on Dreamwidth anyway. Myself. :)

Amokitty

I know Lian wasn't a major player or anything; was that the reason they offed her?

J_Harper

Drama.

author376

I hadn't thought about it, but you're right Jeremy, they DO kill a lot of minors over at DC. :(

J_Harper

And plus you can't tell interesting stories around normal families.

author376

I am getting to hate having so much angst in comics. Why can't comics be fun anymore.

J_Harper

Feh. I'm sorry. I'm so negative about superhero comics. I have been for so long.

J_Harper

Hell, Kitty is back, but we can't even muster up enthusasim about it. Or at least I can't.

Amokitty

It's a cheap lazy way of conjuring up a "suspenseful" plot. It's so overdone - when are these people gonna wake up? This is NOT good storytelling!

author376

You can't tell interesting stories around normal familes anymore becaue it requires GOOD WRITING, not cheap shots at the fan's emotions, antagonizing your readers and considering that a sign of drama, and patting yourself on the back for it while denying that your sales are slipping *cough* 616 spiderman *cought*

author376

Heh, hivemind Amo!

Amokitty

Yeah, how is Spidey doing sales wise after his redux?

J_Harper

I just feel bad about this. I don't want to make this a gloom and bitch fest.

J_Harper

You know, the hell of it is I heard there have been some good spidey stories post BND, though the rub is none of them needed to have MJ out of the picture as Peter's wife.

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Amokitty

Nah, don't worry Jeremy.We usually think up of great fanfic ideas too, you know!

Xakko

hiyas!

J_Harper

I heard sales on Amazing dipped hard.

J_Harper

Hey Xakko. :)

author376

Spidey is not doing well sales wise at all after the big old SNAFU with BND. And Jeremy's right, all the good stories have had MJ in them. :)

Amokitty

Xakko is here!!! Hey you! :) :)

author376

Hello Xakko!

xakko

hey yourself

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xakko

sorry i'm late, had to get the bunny's stuff ready

author376

Hi MadR~

xakko

hi Rose!

author376

MadR! *facepalm*

Amokitty

A Rose by any other name, just wouldn't be you!! So glad to see you!

MadR

Hello

xakko

so... has ANYONE been following X-men?

J_Harper

Hey Rose.

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author376

Hi Star!

Amokitty

We were talking about that, Xak. Looks like nobody's following it. lol

J_Harper

I haven't. As I told Shari, only thing I'm following is First Wave.

xakko

hi starsinger!

MadR

Just some of the stuff on scans daily

J_Harper

Hey Star.

Amokitty

Starsinger, it's great to have you here!! Howdy!!

xakko

I've been picking it up, but only giving a cursory reading. Fraction just really rubs me the wrong way

MadR

Hi Starsinger

starsinger

Hey, evening, how's it going! Howdy ya'll!

J_Harper

Oh, Dick Giordano passed away today. I've never been big into DC, but he was pretty important to that company.

J_Harper

Was their EIC for a few good stretches, if I remember right.

J_Harper

And was pretty well-loved and thought over.

MadR

I may have to do some digging, see if they've ever explained what happened to Cassandra Nova....

J_Harper

thought of.

xakko

er... not that i saw, unless it was over in X-force, which i refuse to buy

Amokitty

Giordano did a lot of good things for DC. Plus, he was a great inker, too. :) RIP.

Amokitty

Don't wanna spend any money to find out what I've missed. Maybe I should wiki it? snort.

J_Harper

I got the impression Kitty's in a containment unit.

starsinger

probably a wise thing

author376

http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org is a good source of information.

Amokitty

She's stuck in the old stasis chamber from the Mutant Massacre (they must've dragged it out of mothballs).

starsinger

God, I wish they'd find a way to bring back Moira

J_Harper

Snort. I just had a stupid idea for a porn X-men fan fic - Cherry Poptart visits the X-Mansion.

MadR

Yeah, Kitty's in containment, and on SD they were talking about how easy it would be to have Richards & Doom resolidifiy her...of course TPTB aren't going to do that.....

J_Harper

I don't know what brought that on.

author376

Sometimes I wonderhow it's only things that they don't need that get blow up with the mansion. You know? Like how they have the status chamber right *now* but where *was* it before? Do they have a big wharehouse somewhere filled with this sort of stuff?

Amokitty

True that! It was really dumb of CC to kill her. The X-Men don't have such well rounded secondary characters anymore. Moira was one of the best.

J_Harper

It's in plot storage - not even the Beyonder can get into there.

MadR

Heh, yeah, after the mansion got blown up the third time they learned not to keep important stuff there....

starsinger

J, go ahead and write it, we'll read it!

author376

Heh. Thanks Jeremy, that explains it all! :D

xakko

hammerspace?

J_Harper

Yup!

xakko

lol

Amokitty

Do they STILL publish Cherry Poptart?!? I'm giggling like a loon now. She was around when I was kid. Naughty Cherry.

J_Harper

Hey, if I do write it, at least it will be light-hearted. Cherry is pretty perky and cheerful.

author376

I wonder if there is any way we can put Fraction in there? Maybe between an old pair of Wolverine's undies and Scott's collection of bad eighties music?

starsinger

Moira was always the voice of reason, she'd figure a way to fix this

author376

Then she'd hit Scott over the head for being a douche.

starsinger

any three ways in that plot bunny, J?

xakko

YES

J_Harper

I'm not sure. Don't know where all my old copies went. Actually I do - gave 'em to my friend Chris and he never gave 'em back.

starsinger

get em back

Amokitty

Is Cherry still a dead ringer for Betty of Archie comics?

starsinger

we could use a good laugh

J_Harper

Don't talk to Chris anymore.

J_Harper

Still looks a lot like her, I think.

author376

I agree, this is a wonderful idea.

starsinger

for a normal human, she stood up to people

J_Harper

Hell, on RPG.Net they were talking about "Things I've learned from Archie". Someone posted a page with Betty tying Archie up with her knitting. I looked at that and thought 'hell, now all the goings on in Cherry Poptart don't seem all that farfetched."

starsinger

lmao]

author376

lmao as well.

Amokitty

So long as Betty didn't Archie a safeword then it's probably ok. LOL

J_Harper

Heh.

Amokitty

GIVE a safeword. And… my typing is back to normal now! ;)

author376

Wouldn't it be better if she HAD? After all, safety first!

Amokitty

Ha!!!

starsinger

well, willing adults and all...

xakko

btw guys, have you seen this: http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e178/xakko/SHSColossus.jpg?

starsinger

Oh, that was good

J_Harper

That's cute.

MadR

Oh, that's cute!

Amokitty

Super Hero Squad!!! That's adorable!!

author376

OMG! I love it, thanks Xakko!

MadR

Haven't been following the Super Squad toon, keep forgetting when it's on.

author376

I am so putting that up in my classroom.. when I get an artroom, anyway. In a year or so. :)

Amokitty

Me too.

xakko

:)

starsinger

::coffee

xakko

I think Peter only showed up in one episode.

Amokitty

Was it any good??

xakko

and i can't stand the cartoon actually. Iron Man just rubs me the wrong way

Amokitty

Was his accent stupid?

xakko

(I missed the X-men one :( )

starsinger

Sorry, not a night person, I usually turn into a pumpking in about 45 minutes

xakko

ha... i am TOTALLY a night owl

Amokitty

And I'm totally not! ;)

starsinger

Uh, morning person, yes, I know I'm annoying first thing in the morning

J_Harper

I'm not watching any tv right now, except for the occasional bad pro wrestling.

Amokitty

Ditto

xakko

and since my Wii-exercise routine, I've had more energy later at night

starsinger

but when you have to be at work at 9 am...

xakko

<--- starts at 6:45 AM

Amokitty

Poor Xak!

J_Harper

Gainfully unemployed. :(

starsinger

and your whole family are morning people, well, somethings can't be helped

xakko

no luck in the job search Jeremy :(

J_Harper

Still.

author376

Hee! Try having to be at work by about 6am. :) The kiddies at my approaching internship arive at 7 or so... and I live about an hour's drive away.

MadR

Aw. I'm actually sleeping better since I've started exercising regularly. Wearing myself out.

J_Harper

Haven't tried as hard as I should or could. I just don't want to go back into dead-end retail.

Amokitty

I remember you mentioning how Verizon screwed you over, Jeremy. That sucks to high hell.

J_Harper

Which is all I'm qualified for.

starsinger

Walk 3 miles a day, half of it up hill, no, I don't get exercise, Oh, I've lost 36 pounds since November

MadR

The economy still stucks.

author376

I'm going out to look for a job next week too since my internship's set up now and I don't have to hover around school making sure that they don't lose my paperwork. Again.

MadR

That's great, Starsinger!

xakko

that's awesome, star!

author376

Congrats Star!

author376

:D

starsinger

thank you!

starsinger

Weight Watchers, wonderful thing

xakko

better than the Wii

MadR

I picked up some old exercise tapes at a library sale. The Tae-bo kicks my ass.

author376

Heh. I've gained some weight since last year and have found that trying to loose weight when you're hypoglycemic is hard. Since I'm trying to keep my blood sugar up and my weight down. :(

starsinger

ow

author376

*nods* Every time I manage loose weight my doctor throws a fit because my sugar bottoms out.

MadR

Oh, that's got to be tough to balance.

starsinger

u can't win

author376

I'm going to try and replace sodas with fruit juice... but too much citric acid breaks me out in hibes. :/

author376

hiVes.

xakko

erk

starsinger

I'd ask you when u were going to start writing again, but with three stories in the air, I really don't have room to talk

author376

Poins to starsinger's comment.

Amokitty

Since you guys are all writers of such good quality, I think you should know that Omnific Publishing is looking for new talent - and they've been scooping up fanfic writers right and left. There are lots of people getting noticed (and published) these days. I even heard of a horrible woman who took a really popular Twilight fanfic, changed the names, and pushed it as her own. It got published and even Kindle versions were made. And then the shit hit the fan last fall. It went to court and the original fanfic author WON (without liability). She's got a contract for it now. Happy ending. Yeah, people out there! Fanfic can be GOOD.

xakko

wow

author376

I'll be doing a drabble post soon over at Kiotr, and I echo Xakko's WOW on that.

MadR

Oh wow. Unbelievable.

starsinger

wow

J_Harper

Heh.

MadR

How did she think she could get away with that? Twilight fandom is huge!

Amokitty

It was the fanfic author's fans who spotted it and ratted the woman out. Every bookseller pulled the book so fast it happened within 48 hours, not kidding. I hope that witch lost everything.

starsinger

I had a friend who writes great sailor moon adult fics, and had the same thing to him

author376

Actually that happens more than you would think, and a lot of people get away with it.

Amokitty

It was almost word for word plagiarism.

author376

I've known two high school English teacher's who lost their licenses to teach and were sued because they stole their STUDENTS' work.

J_Harper

I've been plagiarized at least twice that I can think of.

MadR

I've heard of people trying to collect others' fanfic and sell it on ebay, kind of bastardized 'zine.....but published? shakes head.

J_Harper

An old Ranma 1/2 fic that I've long since removed from the net.

author376

I've been plagarized once that I know of?

starsinger

well, I can't think why anyone would plagiarize me, haven't found any

Amokitty

Wait, their STUDENT'S work?! lol

starsinger

yeah, that is sad

author376

Oh, bite your tongue, starsinger, your writing is lovely!

MadR

brb, dogs out

starsinger

tongue bitten! you're such great people!

author376

And it IS sad, though one of the stories was very good - for a purple prose bodice ripper - and the girl went on to et published.

Amokitty

Like I said, everybody here does some exceptional writing. True fax.

xakko

my friend at work is trying to get me to watch "gentlemen broncos", which is apparently about a established author stealing a kid's work

author376

went on to Get published. Can't type today.

Amokitty

Me either! Don't feel too bad!

starsinger

I'm working on an original fic that makes fun of just about everything

author376

:D

author376

I'm sure it'll be great, star!

author376

BRB taking puppies for a walkie.

J_Harper

Anyone going to go see Kick-Ass?

xakko

not i.

starsinger

my fave character, so far, is a vampire, with a huge nose, who is from Brooklyn

Amokitty

My point is, don't underestimate yourselves, guys. The work you do deserves a broader audience. I really think you should take a look at Omnific and think about submitting. They don't look up their noses at fanfic authors AT ALL.

xakko

i can always wait for someone at Marvel to publish it... (KIDDING!)

J_Harper

I need to get back to writing... :/

xakko

me too.

Amokitty

Yeah, I might see it. Definitely gonna see Hot Tub Time Machine in the next couple of days.

starsinger

(tea spitting out of nose) funny!

xakko

i've been awful. haven't written anything since my father in law's back surgery

MadR

back

Amokitty

Yeah, and what would Marvel know about a good story? :D

MadR

Star, that sounds great!

xakko

i thought it was funny that the new costume for Cyke in X-Factor Forever looked a bit similar to the one i designed in the drawing thread on LWW

starsinger

we can always wish, all right, that will work almost as much as Emma kicking the bucket

Amokitty

Star, will you keep us updated on your progress for your original fic?

MadR

No movies out that I'm interested in seeing.

J_Harper

I've been working on some essays for fun - I'm rereading The Coming of Conan the Cimmerian and posting my thoughts on the stories. So far I've reread the poem Cimmeria and The Phoenix on the Sword. I have some notes down for The Frost-Giant's Daughter, which should kick up some discussion on the site I'm posting on. Well, the story at least, not my notes.

starsinger

sure!

MadR

Not sure what I think of the Chris Evans Captain America casting news....

J_Harper

And I need to get back to my original fiction. I was doing so well then - splat!

starsinger

Clash of the Titans!

xakko

in some ways, that's probably a great way to prep your way back to writing, JH

J_Harper

God, I was five years old when that first came out!

xakko

reading tvtropes... not so much

starsinger

I loved it too

xakko

the new one... looks scary

Amokitty

Titans comes out on Friday right? Release the Kraken!!! I'm so stoked.

MadR

I worry about this new 3-D craze....I hope the movies are watchable without it.

starsinger

I've got the glasses! lol!

Amokitty

I remember going to see the original movie like it was yesterday. gosh.

J_Harper

I'm probably going to see Clash, just for nostalgia's sake. Also, I'm going to go see it at the theatre that I saw the original in. The chain has changed, but the building is pretty much the same.

starsinger

Harry Hamlin was so hot

MadR

Loved the original Titans....the new one does look pretty cool. But I'm gonna miss the steampunk owl.

xakko

I remember watching the original when i was on a mythology kick and going "that's so wrong! perseus didn't right pegasus, that was bellerophon

Amokitty

Rose, you're right about the 3D thing. My eyes were killing me after watching Avatar.

J_Harper

I think there are some legend variants and Ren art that tie Perseus with Pegasus.

xakko

anyone see the new Alice in Wonderland?

J_Harper

No, but I recently watched the muppets recite Jabberwocky.

xakko

ooh!

starsinger

in the original myth, Pegasus sprang from the head of Medusa when Perseus severed it

J_Harper

Beware the Jabberwock, my son!

Amokitty

And now Liam Neeson's doing Olivier. I just know this will be good.

starsinger

sorry, body, not head

J_Harper

Can't remember the rest of it. But Mimsy were the borogroves.

xakko

their "bohemian rhapsody" was fun

MadR

Saw the SYFY channel Alice miniseries, not interested in the Depp movie.

author376

The muppets were lovely. Mad bomber for the win. :D

J_Harper

syfy. snort.

xakko

crazy harry!

author376

Moto madR on the new Alace.

starsinger

If you ever read my Stargate fic, you know which gods I prefer! lol

MadR

I still can't believe they changed the name of the Scifi channel to that....

Amokitty

The Egyptian kind??? :D

author376

I'm pretending that they didn't change Scifi's name.

starsinger

funny

J_Harper

I heard that its slang for syphilis in Croat or some mid-european language. :P

starsinger

well, they play more horror than actual sci-fi

Amokitty

*dies*

author376

*gigglesnort*

MadR

I'm waiting for Eureka to come back, and I still watch some of the B monster movies.

Amokitty

Don't forget the disaster movies they always play.

starsinger

when, when is it coming back!

starsinger

not the momma! not the momma!

J_Harper

Ah well, I can't throw stones about accidental wordplay like that. In Finnland they change King Kull's name to Kall, because Kull means cock (and not the kind that crows) in Finnish.

starsinger

Sorry, 80s flashback going there

MadR

Not til July, I think. I should check for an update.

author376

You know, totally off topic, I was watching Disney's Robin Hood, with the animals, and realized that 'The Pox' was short for - among other things - syphilis back then. So in the song, "A Pox on the Phony King of England" a children's movie is singing about venerial desease...

author376

I am weird.

MadR

Dinosaurs!

MadR

Disney got away with so much like that....

Amokitty

Star: Yep total 80's flashback. Lysette Anthony was the only watchable person in Kull. Yeah, I saw it sadly...

starsinger

okay, I don't think that that was what they meant

author376

I know!

J_Harper

Heh. How much science-fiction is on SyFy anyhow? They show Ghost Hunters and WWE NXT!

Amokitty

Well I don't speak Finnish... ;)

starsinger

Eureka, it's actually one of the decent shows they have on now

MadR

They're actually trying to move away from niche programming. Part of the name change.

J_Harper

They should just change their name to USA 2, change their programing the way Bonnie Hammer wants to, and be done with it.

J_Harper

Yeah, and they go out of the way to insult the nitch they need to hold on to until the successfully transition.

Amokitty

I love Ghost Hunters. Watch it religiously.

author376

*facepalm* A network that exists because of niche programming decides to move away from it... Like Discovery Channel is all reality TV and home improvement now and no nature documentaries or science.

starsinger

well, dr who back in april

J_Harper

Ah I have nothing against shows like Ghost Hunters, anyhow.

xakko

hey, Discovery still shows Mythbusters!

Amokitty

And where the hell is Tennant?!?

starsinger

well, we have to give the new guy a chance

MadR

Caprica doesn't seem to be holding the audience from BSG, and it was the flagship show....

author376

Mythbusters is loads of fun, and I love it... but it's two special effects guys, not science.

J_Harper

OH well, no skin off my nose. I don't watch tv anyway.

starsinger

caprica just isn't that good

J_Harper

Though I did try to watch Demons. That WAS pretty bad, Rose. I couldn't sit through five minutes of it.

author376

I don't mind the stuff that Discovery has on, really, I just miss the stuff they've taken off. *sighs*

MadR

And Stargate Universe actually has a couple of snark comms.

Amokitty

I'm watching a BBC show called Survivors. Pretty good. Why don't they have stuff like THIS on the SYFY channel??

MadR

I miss the Discovery Home channel so much, all my cooking shows were on that.

xakko

* liked "Being Human" when he remembered to watch it

MadR

Oh, Survivors is excellent. Best post-apocalypse I've seen in a while.

author376

I understand that! I really miss the non-docu-drama shows that the History Channel used to show. :(

Amokitty

I love Being Human!! The werewolf is so adorable.

starsinger

at least it's not a nother zombie series

Amokitty

I like Zombies. :)

author376

With ketchup?

J_Harper

Elan is as subtle as a rock to the face...

starsinger

lol

J_Harper

New order of the stick is up, Rose.

Amokitty

With Brains!!!

MadR

Oh yay, order of the stick!

xakko

have you heard "Re: Your Brains" Amo?

author376

Considering their Zombie's that's someone elses brains, I suppose?

author376

:)

J_Harper

Yeah. I think Burlew is feeling better. That's three in one week - his old schedule.

Amokitty

No..... Is it a song???

xakko

yes

Amokitty

Who sings it?

xakko

by Jonathan Coulton, who was raised by Wolves

author376

OH, I hadn't heard of it, sorry.... :(

author376

Music fail.

MadR

I have to catch up on Survivors. Last one I saw was with the Government run colony at the eco-center, and the looters being executed.

Amokitty

Gotta YouTube that!

xakko

(and killed Jon Hodgeman's cat, he can't prove that he didn't)

xakko

John

xakko

gah

xakko

bad me

MadR

Jonathan Coultan writes great geeky music.

Amokitty

Ooooh Rose! there's more info on Abby's son Peter now! @nd season's already begun.

author376

I'll have to look him up!

author376

The musician, I mean.

starsinger

it's good to be talking again

xakko

the refrain is: "All we want to do is eat your brains - we're not unreasonable, I mean no one wants to eat your eyes. All we want to do is eat your brains. We're at an impasse here - maybe we should compromise"

Amokitty

Isn't it great?!

MadR

I'll have to start watching again, see if I can dig up the other eps on Hulu or something....

starsinger

been too long

Amokitty

Heh, heh, heh.....

xakko

and it's from the POV of officemates, some of which have been zombiefied

author376

Oh, that's LOVELY! *GIGGLE* I will have to look it up.

MadR

Missed you gues!

xakko

me too

author376

I missed everyone too!

MadR

guys! And I fail at typing....

xakko

we still read typo here

xakko

lol

Amokitty

Yeah, what they said. :D It's wonderful to have you guys here.

author376

I think I speak typo half the time. :)

starsinger

my problem is, if I don't get reviews, I don't think anybody's reading

Amokitty

But I'll bet the hits are much higher, Star.

xakko

* will try to be better about reviews, sorry

MadR

I...actually forgot my ffn password, but just found it again.

J_Harper

I heard recently that a classic lit science fiction series has got licenced for movies or tv. Didn't get too deep into the article, though.

author376

Ugh, I should apologize star, I've been busy/sick lately and don't think I've reviewed your last few posts. May I say that I loved them and and think that your handling of the characters is progressing nicely?

Amokitty

I feel bad. I haven't read anything at all lately.... sorry guys.

J_Harper

No one expects perfect typing on the 'net. Some asshole actually did that to me on a post, on top of his stupid, stupid argument.

starsinger

thank you! I really need to get writing again, but I've had a rough month, my roommate dropped dead from a heartattack last month, and getting motivated for more than work has been difficult

J_Harper

Owww...

author376

Sometimes I think that a lot of people get online just to belittle others so that they can feel better about themselves.

xakko

wha- ???

MadR

last refuge of someone who's logic is failing.

Amokitty

Oh Star, I'm so sorry!!

xakko

::ohmy

MadR

Oh, man Star, so sorry to hear that....

author376

Oh, poor thing! *hugs* and hope that thinks inprove for you! I am so sorry about your roommate.

J_Harper

Jeeze.

starsinger

thank you! everyone has helped

Amokitty

That's just so unexpected... how have you been doing?

starsinger

The only answer I've been able to give to people is "okay". because that's the long and the short of it

author376

*hugs* That sounds about right. At some point all you can do is go on and it's just hard to define that feeling

starsinger

went to the other zoo today in dallas

author376

Did you have a nice trip?

MadR

Nods. We've all been there, and we know how tough it is.

starsinger

got a big soft stuffed tiger friend, don't have a name yet for him

Amokitty

:)

author376

:)

MadR

Tigger?

starsinger

oddly enough, Kitty's return allowed me to focus on something positive

Amokitty

I hope writing has been somewhat cathartic for you.

author376

Kitty's return could be positive. Especially in fanfic. Right now I just can't picture it being a good thing if she stays with the X-Men the way that they are being run now.

Amokitty

Take the good where you can get it, right? Kitty's return was good news for me too. I've needed it. I've needed this chat too believe it or not.

author376

We're just happy to hear from you, Amo! *hugs*

MadR

I can't see Kitty staying with the X Men if Emma's still there. She and Piotr should run off together.

starsinger

friend just suggested hug buddy as a name too! lol

Amokitty

Yes! Hell yes.

starsinger

vegas wedding? lol

xakko

now... they do remember Reed can cure her, right?

Amokitty

Hug Buddy.... aw......

author376

*nods* I still want to keep writing fic where Hank leaves with a bunch of the others to start his own school after Kitty leaves straight off and Piotr follows her.

Amokitty

Doom too.

MadR

TPTB are going to milk it for all the angst they can get.

xakko

i am thinking that she's going to side with Magneto in the EVENT following Second Coming

author376

And I want to kill Scott and Emma. *confesses guiltily* I just really want to.

xakko

and Piotr won't

starsinger

what's happened with Illyana?

Amokitty

I agree Xak. They were close once. Plus, he saved her when no else could be bothered.

author376

*nods sadly* I agree with Xak.

author376

Also, it seems! :D

xakko

they're still telling that story, i think, in the new New Mutants title

MadR

Emma definitely needs to be held responsible.

Amokitty

See? This crap is even predictable! lol

author376

*nods* Bad writing always is!

xakko

the previews hint at something about her going to the future and things having gone badly

author376

Again?!

author376

Can't people write their OWN stories anymore?

MadR

dammit dogs:BRB

Amokitty

Days of Done this Plot to Death?

xakko

well, if there's one certainty, no matter who's writing, it's that the future for the X-men is NOT bright

starsinger

same song, different verse "I am Henry the 8th I am..."

author376

You know, now I kind of want to write a fic where due to Reed Richards dropping a decimal in a college paper all Marvel time travel technology is faulty and actually takes the person automatically to apocolyptic AU's. And when someone figures this out they find out that the future is really nice and fluffy and happy.

Amokitty

At least THAT would be original.

xakko

hah

author376

:D

author376

If nothing else it would be fun to write. Cable could change his name to Pricilla out of shame...

xakko

holy crap, Kyle and Yost are bringing back The Right???

author376

It would make Deadpool happy!

starsinger

Logan walking drunkenly down the street singing the above mentioned song?!

author376

Hee! Oh, that's lovely!

Amokitty

Oh no.... Wasn't it Fabienza's worst ideas?? The Right - oh god.

author376

O_O

author376

*Hides*

xakko

it's in the preview for Second Coming on CBR

xakko

oh my

starsinger

Kitty's not supposed to play a big role in second coming, isn't that what fraction said?

xakko

but... Kitty's back, and Cecilia Reyes is alive (yay)

Amokitty

How is CeCe alive?

starsinger

BRING BACK MOIRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

starsinger

I know, that won't help

J_Harper

Civilians never come back.

Amokitty

It'd help ME a helluva lot actually. but Marvel isn't interested in making me happy and hasn't been for some time.

author376

I'm beginning to think that nothing will help and fanfic is the only place to go for decent material anymore when it comes to characters.

author376

Marvel's execs seem to thrive (in everything but sales) on pissing off their fans for some reason.

MadR

Bak

starsinger

I'm thinking about a sequel to the story I wrote with Wisdom Gay, they're going to find him a boyfriend

J_Harper

As I said on Livejournal - fuck Marvel. Fuck DC.

author376

I refuse to do either. They might enjoy it.

author376

God knows nobody else will have them now.

Amokitty

Yeah, will SOMEBODY throw us a freakin' bone here, take pity, and write how Peter dealt with the news of Kitty's return? Because it just wasn't important enough.

J_Harper

My back is badly abused from all the straws they've thrown on it. No more.

xakko

Cece was brought back in NYX part II

xakko

Apparently

author376

*nods*

author376

For Amo:

MadR

Right on. Write on.

Amokitty

Thank you Xak.

xakko

* looks sheepish

author376

Piotr should have felt joy. He did too, just by sitting beside his Katya as she waited for a cure in that chamber.

author376

Argh! Having posting problems, be back when I cut and paste short drabble for Amo!

xakko

K

starsinger

yaaay!

MadR

We did get that great panel of him running toward her calling her name....

xakko

there were some definite positives. wall bangers too, to be sure, but definite positives

MadR

But yeah, no emotional payoff.

Amokitty

376, as usual, You make me want throw my coat over puddles you walk on, throw flowers in your wake, and sing your praises to the skies. You are a hardcore rockin' sonofayouknow what. and I love you too!

Amokitty

:)

Amokitty

Besides everything else I mean..... ;) lol

J_Harper

I'm annoyed because it bitches up Child of Fire. (Laughs) But then, it's not like I was ever going to finish that.

starsinger

question, anybody know what's with this Hope character?

Amokitty

Nada.

xakko

they're hinting that it's Jean

xakko

but that could be a bait and switch

Amokitty

Oh! That! yeah, I hear she's returning.

MadR

Cable's baby? Nope, not following that.

starsinger

well, it would silence the Jean fans who've been screaming since it was Kitty who returned, not Jean

xakko

maybe they can fit Emma into "beloved character" after all and have Jean kill her, and then Scott and Jean can't be together because Scott truly loved Emma (*chokes*)

Amokitty

How long has Jean been gone?? Since 2002 or 2003??

starsinger

I liked Jean better anyway

Amokitty

Gonna vomit any minute.....

MadR

2003, I think....

xakko

don't say that (deb had food poisoning yesterday)

author376

For Amo!Piotr should have felt joy for his Katay's return. He did, even unable to touch her, even having to wait for a cure again, but... Above all else he felt shame. He had not tried to save her. When Scott, Emma, Richards and so many others had refused to try he had not tried to go elsewhere. She had brought him back from Hell on Earth and he had not tried to save her from life entombed. In the end, the one who had was often their gravest enemy... He had failed those he loved again and shame was once again his dearest companion. Not forever, though, and not for long, he swore as he listened to Emma – who had betrayed them so many times – and Scott – whose soul was darker and more tarnished now than Magneto's – speak of the woman he loved like another cog in their great machine of mutant... he didn't even know what sort of mutant machine they were honestly. But he had had enough. Katya would be cured, and then? And then they would leave. And God help anything that got in the way of his exit because Scott wouldn't even look at him to stop being a good soldier, and Scott was only dangerous as long as he was watching you. As for Emma? Diamond shatters.

Amokitty

Aw geez! Poor Deb! Hope she's recovering.

MadR

I'd like to see Jean come back and Emma get bounced back to supervillain status.

Amokitty

(screams) Gonna read now!!!!!!!!!

MadR

Oh 376, that was great! ::laugh

xakko

ooh, great stuff, 376!

starsinger

looooooooove it!

author376

I liked Emma better as a supervillian. It's actually harder to find fun villians than heroes, why waste them?

author376

Thank you everyone!

Amokitty

Oh, how I wish....

xakko

i've read that Morrison was forced to kill Jean through Executive Meddling, but then, it may be fanboys trying to justify that horrible arc

starsinger

haven't they done enough to that poor woman? Bring her back and give her to Logan, He'll at least appreciate her

Amokitty

376, can't believe you just pulled that out!!! Fantastic!!! Thank you so much!!!!!! *hugs you* You rock so damn hard!

author376

THANK YOU STARSINGER! THIS THIS EXACTLY!

xakko

brb

author376

I'm glad you liked it, Amo! Sorry I had so much trouble posting it!

author376

:D

Amokitty

I think you reprint it at the comm. Seriously. Folks need to see how it should be done.

MadR

Or they can fix Scott's characterization...or maybe he's been written badly for so long this is his characterization now.....

author376

Oops, didn't save the doc. I had it in... :/ *sheepish*

MadR

Yeah, I still have Wolverine Issues. ::happy

Amokitty

Rose, this is what I'm worried about. I despise Scott now. His character is now normally a complete and utter asshole. It's a disgrace.

starsinger

the fact that he left jean for emma is enough for me to dislike him

author376

Maybe fix Scott's characterization by having him be a Skrull replacement that Emma was alright with because she had a secret agreement with the skrulls? Or a clone she got from Normie...?

Amokitty

It can be copied and pasted from the transcript!

MadR

A good writer could redeem him....if they decided to go that way......

author376

Cool! I'll do that then, thanks Amo! :D

starsinger

what do you do with the white queen?

Amokitty

Nooooooo, thank YOU, Ms, 376. I really needed that! Fans do too!

MadR

Ooh, maybe Emma's had him under mind control for years!

author376

Is that a rehtorical question Star? I mean, we've seen her costume choices...

starsinger

oh, like it

starsinger

back to J's porn, she'd be too easy to insert into it

author376

Heh. :D

Amokitty

Craking UP!!!!

J_Harper

Snort.

xakko

mind control works... or... something more insidious

author376

You know, maybe Jean's deaths damaged Scott's mind via their psychic link and Emma's just using him like a puppet since he's personally emotionally/mentally shut down in response? She could have him in a little corner of his own mind where he's married to Jean with a happy little family and everything... Someone could pull him out of it and he could zap her and fix things?

xakko

(back again)

author376

Mind controlling venerial desiease, then?

J_Harper

Threesome between Peter, Kitty and Cherry's friend Ellie Dee. Peter has a thing for cute, nerdy computer savvy girls.

author376

*giggle* :D Likes this Jeremy!

starsinger

well, as long as Kitty doesn't mind!

starsinger

brb

Amokitty

That could actually be just as believable if not more so than what's going on right now.

xakko

* wonders if he could get himself to write a ficlet where Emma had planned to seduce Scott

Amokitty

Jeremy! I just snorted my soda.

MadR

I could see that, 376....and when Scott wakes up.....

J_Harper

Hell, Claremont's been itching to make Kitty a lesbian, and dropped some hints. Easy to make her bi.

J_Harper

Sorry, Amo.

Amokitty

Oh god! Let's not go there again!! lol

Amokitty

:D

xakko

has anyone been reading X-men Forever?

author376

*nods* That moment of horrible realization could be fun when Scott wakes up. Plus, it would echo what Emma did to Kitty. Maybe she was already a pro because she'd had Scott under such control all along?

Amokitty

I heard it's getting revamped or something?

xakko

(which is unlikely, I know)

xakko

a "second season"

Amokitty

why?

starsinger

back

xakko

dunno, just to get another #1 out there?

MadR

Nope, I'm still stuck with SD and any trades the library has.

MadR

and since SD moved to Dreamwidth it hasn't been the same.

xakko

i've gotten the trades, just to support CC, and force of habit, and the Russia arc, but still not feeling it

Amokitty

Don't know how the first 'season' did sales wise, but if it wasn't broke, why fix it? Unless everybody CC's ideas.

Amokitty

HATES his ideas, I should say

author376

*nods* It has been different since it moved to Dreamwidth, any thoughts on why MadR?

Amokitty

How do fans feel about the move? Grateful scans_daily is back I'm sure.

MadR

I think a lot of posters dropped off. And I'm not seeing as much X Men or Booster Gold stuff.

xakko

well, he did kill Wolverine for REAL

author376

I think you may be right about that, MadR.

xakko

but ... I can't stand Sabretooth, so it's no help

Amokitty

Xak, what happened in CC's reuniting of Kitty and Peter? Was it awful?

starsinger

how'd he do that?

xakko

actually, if you can stomach the Piotr-Natasha thing, it was somewhat sweet

author376

Ooh, I didn't hear abou CC reuniting Kitty and Piotr!

xakko

he wrote them as being very much close friends

starsinger

I've done that

MadR

It had already been on insanejournal for a while....a lot of us were a little ticked at how the mods handled the move...but DW has already fought off one removal request from Marvel, so good for them.

Amokitty

Jesus. Are you serious? He brought back the What If? idea and ran with it didn't he? Stupid.

MadR

Piotr Natasha? What the what if?

J_Harper

Why Natasha, of all people? Besides the fact she's Russian? Peter's a peasant, she's descended from Aristocracy. He's straight-forward and honest, she's a spy.

author376

Hmm... I don't know if I'd buy that. I only ever liked Piotr/Natasha in one of MadR's stories. Their characters are too different and I can only imagine them together if Natash was using Pior.

author376

Piotr! *rolls eyes at self*

Amokitty

What on earth would the Black Widow want with a farmer?

xakko

well, Piotr returned to Russia, and the Black Widow was running the team, and... things happened, I guess

J_Harper

And that's leaving out the horseshit about Peter being a descendant of Rasputin!

MadR

There's some interesting stuff to do with the history there....hell, just having them talk about the fact that she's a Romanov and he's Griska's grandkid.....

xakko

who else has she been with - DD, I know... Iron Man?

J_Harper

All right, maybe I'm being hypocritical - I did hint that he had ties to Rasputin in Deathless, but I never cared much for the idea of him being directly descended from him.

Amokitty

He's simple in his wants and needs - she isn't. Complicated as hell. Couldn't work.

J_Harper

Hawkeye.

J_Harper

I got nothing against Natasha.

J_Harper

I just don't see it.

xakko

one could say that Kitty isn't simple in her wants or needs

xakko

but she's so much older than he is

J_Harper

It's like making Omega Red Peter's arch foe, just because he's Russian.

xakko

not that there's anything wrong with that, lol

MadR

It's cheesy, but if they're going to give us that Rasputin and a Romanov, they have to mention it somewhere!

starsinger

she's not exactly high maintenance, unlike emma

Amokitty

No, Kitty is tempermental and complicated, but their morals and personalities are more suited.

author376

Random thought is random, but... Has anyone thought of doing an AU (I've read a couple of good ones) where after X-2 Magneto succeeds in getting Charles to kill all the humans and the world has to be rebuilt? It would be the perfect time for Piotr - as a farmer - to shine and an explanation why nobody would care about the Piotr/Kitty age gap. They need the next generation as fast as possible.

xakko

Natasha's so much more... cynical

author376

Personally I think Natasha/Bucky is really a great match, to go off topic again.

Amokitty

Uh oh. Mark has just experienced the Red Ring of Death. I was wondering what all the yelling was.... not good....

MadR

oooh, 376....that's a great idea!

xakko

oh no!

author376

Oh, geez.

Amokitty

Gonna hide now.... lol

xakko

i thought they'd fixed that

starsinger

red ring of death?

xakko

X-Box fatal error

Amokitty

His X-box died.

starsinger

how's ur kitty, author?

Amokitty

brb

darkstorm5000 joined.

xakko

hiya DS!

author376

Oh, thank GOD that's what it is! It's also old military slang for a STD...

MadR

Hey Darkstorm!

darkstorm5000

Hi, Everyone!

MadR

LOLOLOL!

starsinger

hey, darkstorm!

author376

From the vietnam era, anyway, my dad was a veteran.

author376

Hi Darkstorm!

J_Harper

Hey Darkstorm.

starsinger

well, conversation dies

author376

...

xakko

but anyway, CC still considers Kitty and Piotr close, if not romantic prospects. he also made Illyana a willing demon sorceress ::mad

J_Harper

Humph.

starsinger

<raspberry>

Amokitty

Darkstorm this is great!!! Hey there!  :)

Amokitty

Damn x-box elite cost $500.00 when I bought it for my huisband's birthday not quite 2 years ago. This sucks tremendous ass.

J_Harper

Hell with it. I'll stick with Kitty/Piotr to the end. Still got Ranma/Shampoo Ranma/Ukyo fans after 14 years of the end of the manga, people can handle me liking Kitty/Peter.

J_Harper

I think MS will replace it for free.

author376

*wince* sorry about that, Amo. I hope Jeremy's right.

J_Harper

If its red ring.

Amokitty

STD??? I'm laughing my ass off!!

MadR

CC's jumped the shark, then.

J_Harper

I think Shooter's meddling soured him on the relationship. Also the fact he's turning into a dirty old man.

J_Harper

With a lesbian fetish.

MadR

Ouch. Hope they will replace it....gaming's expensive.

xakko

yah

Amokitty

Yeah, it looks like Mark has a couple of options thru eith Microsoft or Best Buy (cause he bought the extended warranty) Pain in the keister....

author376

Sorry, but there's a lot of old military slang out there that overlaps modern slang in weird ways. Since I was the kid that sat around listening to grandfather/uncles/great-uncles war stories I kind of picked all of these weird facts up as a little kid.

J_Harper

Hell, he's always had a lesbian fetish. Didn't he hint that Storm and what's her name - that wild japanese martial artist, had gotten together? And let's not forget Destiny/Mystique.

xakko

the medium could definitely use some positive gay role models, but doesn't need to force it on characters

J_Harper

And we got Xian as well. Didn't she hook up with Dani?

MadR

That's true.

xakko

and i cant' say CC's are always... positive.

starsinger

what is it about some men and lesbians?

xakko

(but better than Northstar becoming All About the Gay)

J_Harper

What is it with some women and yaoi?

author376

*nods* CC does, but NOBODY is as bad as Frank *whores* Miller.

starsinger

touche

J_Harper

Men like women, and a lot of guys like the idea of two women together, since they like women. I'm assuming its the same for women.

J_Harper

Or, at least, some women.

Amokitty

CC has ALWAYS been a dirty old man. There's was more sexual innuendo when he writing it than there is now. Who else could write the BDSM undertones he did and STILL have it approved by the Comics Code Authority? He was a genius at it.

author376

*nods* I don't mind slash - I write it - or femslash, but I think it's just a problem when it's the only thing about a character.

xakko

plus, men tend to be visually stimulated, and a lesbian encounter has twice the body parts and none of the less attractive ones (men's)

starsinger

I knew a girl whose boyfriend wanted to break up with her because he found out she was bi, what's with that?

J_Harper

Oh, I found out something interesting when I was on my Sherlock Holmes kick - supposedly Destiny was going to be THE Irene Adler.

MadR

brb

xakko

that's BS, star. she was better off without him

xakko

nixed by Editorial, Jeremy?>

author376

Maybe he was just threatened by the idea of competition?

starsinger

lol

J_Harper

Not sure.

J_Harper

Maybe Claremont changed his mine. Irene is public domain, so there wasn't any legal problems as far as I know.

J_Harper

mind.

xakko

it totally could have worked

J_Harper

I don't know if Holmes exists as a 'real' character in the Marvel universe. I think he is in DC.

MadR

bak.

xakko

although since Irene didn't have the same age retardant ability Mystique does...

J_Harper

May have been a descendent. Keep in mind I think I saw it on Wiki, so take it with a grain of salt.

MadR

Ooh, Irene Adler as THE Irene....hmmmm. Has Marvel done any Holmes stuff? I know DC's had Batman meet him.....

xakko

hard to imagine they haven't touched on him at sometime

author376

*grumble* Thunderstorm's finally appropaching, and I'm going to have to get offline now. It was great to "see" everyone and especially great to "talk" to you!

Amokitty

Having Destiny be a muse for Doyle could've worked well. Marvel has nixed some really good ideas of his.

xakko

gah, 376

xakko

nice seeing you too!

MadR

Night 376....

J_Harper

Take care.

Amokitty

376 thanks for coming!!!! thanks again for your drabble!! :)

author376

Goodnight! I'll try and remember that drabble meme!

starsinger

nice seeing you!

Amokitty

Please do!

author376

You're more than welcome Amo! :D

darkstorm5000

goodnight, 376

Amokitty

:D

author376

Goodnight!

author376 left.

J_Harper

No mention of it on Destiny's wiki entry. I'm checking Adler's now. I know I saw it somewhere.

Amokitty

Huh. Can anybody see an IP address?

starsinger

no?

darkstorm5000

Not on my end...

MadR

An ip address? no....

xakko

no

Amokitty

Well good. 376's just showed up for some reason. Must make certain this is just on my end and doesn't show up on the transcript. Never happened before. Weird.

MadR

That is weird.

J_Harper

The former lover of Mystique and adoptive mother of Rogue... Before she became a mutant terrorist Irene Adler worked as a detective in Austria. Hints within canon suggested that the long lived Destiny was either the actual character within the Holmes stories, or was the woman the character was based on, depending whether or not the current writer of the books considered Holmes a 'fictional' character in the context of the Marvel Universe.

starsinger

okay, my pumpkin is fast approaching, g nite, I'll try to add a chapter to something tomorrow

MadR

Nite Starsinger.

J_Harper

That's from Irene Adler's entry on wiki, in her references in popular culture section.

xakko

g'nite star, thanks for coming!

J_Harper

Night Star.

Amokitty

Mind you, it's been a while since I've visited my own chat room and things may have changed. which reminds me - gotta renew my license for it next month. Especially since we have Kitty back and stuff to chat and gripe over. lol

xakko

i owe you reviews!

starsinger

ty

xakko

heehee!

starsinger left.

Amokitty

Starsinger, it was great that you came! thank you! Please take care of yourself.

Amokitty

Dammit..... never fails

Amokitty

I suck.

MadR

Did the ip thing happed again when Star left?

MadR

happen.

Amokitty

Sure did. I've gotta look into this.

xakko

gah

Amokitty

Don't worry guys. Nobody's gonna see squat. :)

MadR

Wondering if it's some security thing? For trolling?

Amokitty

Yeah, I'm wondering the very same thing.

xakko

possible

Amokitty

Will look into the operational settings tomorrow.

xakko

good idea.

xakko

hopefully its just a security update

Amokitty

On a brighter note - anybody writing lately?

J_Harper

Just my essays. I have something like half a fantasy story finished. I need to get back to it.

xakko

no, sadly. i need to. i really do.

MadR

Nothing kiotry, I'm afraid. 376 and I are still doing the DC round robin....

J_Harper

Oh yeah, and fighting with idiots in lousy forums.

Amokitty

Jeremy is it Valentine?

J_Harper

Yes. Do you know anything about Valentine? I don't know if I ever mentioned him to you. My memory is lousy.

Amokitty

Oh no. Who's busting your chops Jeremy, and why?

Amokitty

You've told me quite a bit. :)

J_Harper

Oh, just some bullshit at a wrestling forum.

xakko

boo

J_Harper

I went to a Chikara show in CT last weekend, and a girl gave me a sampler disc of a promotion running in CT next Saturday called Inter Species Wrestling. The owner and booker of ISW asked for some reviews on the sampler, and I obliged. Three of the matches were good, but one match, the Alcobrawl, soured me. I said that it wasn't bad, but I don't think it was me. I was going to go because ISW is having a lot of Chikara guys at the card, otherwise I wouldn't probably be going.

Amokitty

When I was a kid I thought Nature Boy Rick Flair was the bomb. And then I grew up - lol.

MadR

Inter...species?

J_Harper

I said this politely, and the owner was very polite back. Then this guy said that I should re-write my review so not to sound like so much of a Chikara "fan boi".

J_Harper

I took offense. I also found it odd that being called a Chikara fan boy was being used on a pejorative on a board founded by Chikara fans for Chikara fans.

MadR

Oh, that is a whole lot of stupid, right there.

Amokitty

Wasn't it Kipling who said that the only kind of constructive criticism that people accept is the kind that favors them?

xakko

oy. what an idiot

J_Harper

He said I missed his point because three of the guys I praised and mentioned I first saw in Chikara got their start in ISW, so thus my comments about ISW's were wrong.

J_Harper

Which is absolutely stupid. It's one of the stupidest things I've heard. I can like a wrestler but not like the style of a promotion he works for.

MadR

Sounds like he's the defensive fanboi.

J_Harper

I like a guy name Eddie Kingston, but I have no time for CZW, a league he works out of. I like Uno, Twiggy and the other guy, but just because I like them doesn't mean I have to like ISW.

J_Harper

He's also the guy who pinged me on the spelling error. I didn't run a spellcheck and I spelled pejorative with an r. perjorative.

J_Harper

Eh, Chikara Fans has turned into a cesspit, anyway. This vile piece of shit posted this ugly pornographic picture in the thread. He does it semi-regularly, and the mods don't do anything to crack down on it. Hell of a thing for a board dedicaded to a family friendly promotion to tolerate.

MadR

Oh one of those. Yeah, a forum needs a strong mod to keep the riffraff under control.

J_Harper

Anyhow, I wrote a response and I dropped Chikara Fans from my links. Chikara has set up an official forum - I'll probably go there for my fix now.

J_Harper

Yeah, plus it doesn't help that the owner and moderators have lost a lot of their interest in Chikara.

J_Harper

It's actually turned very, very critical of the promotion, and not in what I think of in as a good way.

Amokitty

Yeah, what Rose said!! *Laughs uncontrollably.... Not like we haven't our share....

J_Harper

Very true. Sorry to bore you with something so trivial.

Amokitty

Not boring. You get to rant here. S'alright with us!

MadR

Not bored. Nice to know that some things are the same in every fandom.

xakko

no worries, Jeremy... venting among friends is always cool

MadR

even wrestleing

Amokitty

Nobody expects folks here to just like comics. Now that IS boring.

darkstorm5000

I'm just curious, is it a somewhat sizable wrestling organization (by Indy standards)?

J_Harper

Anyhow, I'm trying not to go back and check. The owner of ISW asked on the thread for this to stop. I said fine, and that I would be going to his card with an open mind. Hell, my first impression of Chikara wasn't very positive, but it changed. Could happen with ISW.

xakko

especially given the state of the Big 2 today

J_Harper

Chikara pulled over 700 people for their season opener in Philly. That's very good. They're expecting more for their King of Trios tourney this April.

xakko

brb again

J_Harper

That's very good. Also, by critics, they're considered perhaps the best Indy in the country. Quality-wise people say their only match or better is Pro Wrestling Guerrilla out of SoCal.

Amokitty

Are you going to go I know you've gone to Philly before for a match.

J_Harper

I went to a show last weekend in CT, and I hope to go to one in MA this May. I'd also like to hit one of the PA shows, and the Season Finales in Vt and ME.

J_Harper

I was hoping to see King of Trios this year, but Joe has a comic convention he's going to that weekend and I don't want to go to Philly by myself.

J_Harper

It's a lot of fun. Kid friendly too.

J_Harper

And very athletic.

Amokitty

The only thing I've done remotely fun lately is the Emerald City Comicon. Got to see Stan Lee! (Lou Ferrigno too). Oh! and a teenager dressed up in Kitty Pryde's Cockrum Costume From Hell. She looked fantastic - got her picture too. :)

J_Harper

Your kidding? The Dazzler inspired rollo kalidescope?

J_Harper

Hah!

Amokitty

YES!!!!!

MadR

OMG, that must have been some costume!

xakko

wow

J_Harper

I think I grow old, but I'd rather see Kitty in that than some stripper-riffic costume.

Amokitty

The rainbow vomit inspired costume from hell! She couldn't believe I knew who she 'was'. She was so cute!

MadR

Aw. You probably made her day, getting it.

xakko

that's impressive that it was as obvious in person...

darkstorm5000

Sounds cool!

Amokitty

She had the gold lame sleeves, the blue lightning bolts.... everything.

J_Harper

Oh jeeze! Are you going to post them on Kiotr?

xakko

impressive

MadR

Now that's dedication to costuming.

Amokitty

I dunno. I mean is it really post-worthy? I wanted to tell her about the comm, but her friends (one of whom was dressed like Black Canary) told her they had to go.

J_Harper

Too bad.

J_Harper

Oh well, I wouldn't mind seeing it. I'm really curious about it.

MadR

I'd love to see it, but I dunno about posting a pic of a teenager unless you have permission to.....

J_Harper

Point.

xakko

she isn't on the website...

Amokitty

She certainly seemed thrilled to have Mark take her pic. Got a feeling Rose is right - it might have made her day.

xakko

the Super Mario Lanterns are

Amokitty

The emerald city comicon website you mean, Xak?

xakko

yah

MadR

Of course these days it might be implied that people taking pics at a con will blog about it.....I don't know the etty-kit.

xakko

wait, no, comicsalliance.com

Amokitty

There was SOOOOOOO many peeps dressed up you wouldn't begin to believe it. Leonard Nimoy was there, and I think the entire state showed up. Mark and I were only 7 people away in line from getting to see him - and then the auditoium was full. and I almost bawled. But I got to see Stan Lee so it wasn't a bust by any means.

xakko

found an Astonishing Kitty pic

Amokitty

And Lou Ferrigno looks YOUNG. He must have great genes or a fabulous plastic surgeon. Mark got to meet his childhood crush - Erin Gray. I laughed so hard.

J_Harper

Snort. How does Erin look?

MadR

sounds like it was a great con!

Amokitty

Frickin awesome. She must have a great plastic surgeon too! :D

MadR

maybe that green paint is good for wrinkles.

J_Harper

Heh.

Amokitty

LOL

darkstorm5000

I don't Mark's the only one that could apply to.

Amokitty

I'll have to look into sharing the Kitty pic. Maybe just privately with you guys rather than posting it publicly?

xakko

hah, i was never that into Buck Rogers.

J_Harper

Sure. It's not like its obscene or anything.

xakko

private would be better, methinks

Amokitty

DS - ha! Were you a buck Rogers fan too?! :)

darkstorm5000

Even funnier, I was really into Silver Spoons!

Amokitty

*dies*

xakko

LOL!

MadR

I loved Buck Rogers...

J_Harper

She was in Silver Spoons?

MadR

Ha! Silver Spoons, that's right....she was the secretary?

Amokitty

Wasn't Gil Gerard hot, hot, hot? *giggling now*

Amokitty

Yeah!

MadR

Funny, you could see the influence on the early X Men space stuff in Buck Rogers.

darkstorm5000

I was old enough at the time to find her interesting, but not 'old' enough yet to really understand why?

MadR

The clothing, the head-dresses for the women. The bird-people aliens....

Amokitty

Aw, DS did she make you feel all funny and warm inside?? *Cracks up. You wouldn't be the only for sure. the pics she was signing showed her in her skin tight silver spandex space outfit. And she damn near looked the same!

MadR

Late 70's Fabulousness in general.

J_Harper

Christ, I speak of that asshole and he posted in that friggin' thread. I'm trying to resist curiosity.

MadR

Don't look, Jeremy!

J_Harper

Yeah, I'm trying not to.

MadR

Be the bigger man, walk away.

Amokitty

Rose: exactly. Yet, it didn't look really kitchy at all. It's like it's suddenly cool again if the response to her was anything to go by. It's not Princess Leia the fanboys drool over.

J_Harper

I deleted Chikara Fans from my notebook for a reason, anyway.

Amokitty

JUST Pricess Leia anyway..... ;)

xakko

* nods

Amokitty

Jeremy, your blood pressure won't thank you for this...

MadR

I did watch the Buck Rogers pilot not waaay too long ago, got from the library. FX held up pretty well....just the disco music really dated it.

Amokitty

Laughs. That, and the sound effects.

Amokitty

Battlestar Galactica views the same way, I think. :)

J_Harper

You know a series is bad when it makes Original Battlestar Galactica look pretty good in comparison.

xakko

HA!

Amokitty

Yep. :)

xakko

* still remembers playing "Battlestar Galactica" with his family and friends

xakko

* was Apollo

MadR

Hee. But I do still love it for all it's cheesetastic glory, for what it was trying to do....

Amokitty

Mark still has his lunchbox with Apollo on it.

xakko

i had a toy viper and cylon raider, and a cylon action figure... and an... ovoid? the green thing with 4 arms

MadR

I still have a bunch of the tie-in novels.

xakko

the sad thing is i don't remember much about the show at this point.

xakko

mostly just Lorne Greene

Amokitty

I must say Stan Lee damned near charmed the crap outta me. He is the coolest guy with a hearing problem I've ever seen. I thought about you guys a lot that day, wishing you could be there...

J_Harper

That's neat.

xakko

yeah... wish we coulda been there too

xakko

sounds like it was a great time

darkstorm5000

Ditto

MadR

it was meant to be space opera on a grand scale.

xakko

(tho' - you'd never get me to cosplay, methinks)

MadR

sounds like you had a great time.

Amokitty

I saw a Thor costume that was one of the best costumes I've ever seen period. Makes you wonder how much that stuff costs to make.

Amokitty

Rose, it would've been better if y'all could've been there. I can't tell you how often I thought of you guys.

J_Harper

Heh. Lia wanted to go to a con dressed up as Black Canary. It would be an easy costume, and I'll admit she would have been impressive.

xakko

(i guess to be honest i should say never get me to cosplay *again*)

xakko

*hangs head in shame

J_Harper

I use to joke if she did that, I'd go as Kevin Matchstick. I don't have the physique, but I would have brought a damn big baseball bat.

Amokitty

Fishnets and Bolero jackets are easy to find. there were a lot of black canarys that day. Plus, one good Phoenix and one dark.

J_Harper

Lost my only picture of her when my old cell phone died. Pisses me off a bit.

Amokitty

Oh Xakko.... the can of worms you have opened..... you must confess my child.

xakko

had a xakko outfit to an Animaniacs voice actor tour

xakko

not a good one, but there you have it

Amokitty

You know you don't need that, right Jeremy? :)

J_Harper

Yeah, but it still ticks me off a little.

Amokitty

Does Deb have a pic? (notice I'm not asking YOU...)

MadR

Hate to be the next one to turn into a pumpkin...but.....

MadR

goodnight all.

xakko

g'nite rose

J_Harper

Take care, Rose.

xakko

nice to chat with you!

darkstorm5000

Goodnight Rose!

MadR

Great chatting with you guys again.

xakko

it was pre-Deb

Amokitty

Rose, it was great to see you! Many many thanks for stopping tonite. We'll do it again soon. :)

xakko

so no pics extant, i belioeve

MadR

seeyabye.

J_Harper

I meant to ask you about your fluffballs...

Amokitty

bye!

J_Harper

Rose.

MadR left.

J_Harper

Oh well,.

Amokitty

Foiled in my plan to blackmail Xakko!! Dammit all!!!

J_Harper

Heh.

J_Harper

brb.

Amokitty

Wonder who else I could possibly get to do my bidding by hook or by crook? *rubs hands together melevolently*

xakko

bwahahaha

Amokitty

I'm eeeeeeevil, you know.

xakko

i just did some google searches... fortunately nothing is coming up

xakko

lol

Amokitty

Pfft. thanks a lot, buddy! Now stop doing that!!

Amokitty

DS. Surely I can dig up some dirt on you...

xakko

ha

Amokitty

Or I could always try Ye Olde Guilt Trip....

darkstorm5000

I doubt it. Although, I did dress up as a poor-man's Jedi for Halloween this past year.

xakko

ha

Amokitty

I just want a Kiotr story so badly. *sniff*

xakko

i just need to buckle down, but... they do say that tvtropes will ruin your life... and it does!

Amokitty

Ooooh really?? Saw a LOT of those (along with a lot Boba Fetts) at the con.

xakko

i swear, every time i try to start up again, i think of what trope i'm engaged in and it all turns to FAIL

Amokitty

Pleeeeeeeze??? *bats lashes with lip trembling*

darkstorm5000

As far as writing, I've kind of been at a crossroads about whether I want to continue with it or not for the last few months

Amokitty

I'm not above degrading myself for the greater good you see.

Amokitty

I know you're not alone, DS. There isn't a thing going on now that's inspiring at all. I pray that Kitty's return somehow changes that. Btw, did I mention that Fraction was at the con too? He looks to be about 20. Scary.

Amokitty

Takes himself WAYYYYY too seriously.

darkstorm5000

Wow. I thought he'd look a lot older for some reason (never seen a pic of him)

xakko

no kidding

J_Harper

Back.

Amokitty

One of the nerdiest guys I've ever seen, swear to god.

xakko

did you see his advice to people who complain about Magneto pulling the Giant Magic Space Bullet back to Earth?

darkstorm5000

What'd he say?

Amokitty

No, and I'm scared to ask, but I'll go ahead and bite.

Amokitty

Plz share with the class!

xakko

hold on, let me find the link

Amokitty

Sure.

darkstorm5000

brb

xakko

gah, i think it was a "cup o' joe" or whatever... still looking

Amokitty

While Xak is searching I'll ask if either of you have gotten any ideas on how you could've improved the story Fraction wrote. Would you take Mags out entirely? Would Scott and Emma have a more realistic need for involvement?

darkstorm5000

back

xakko

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=24962

J_Harper

I think Gail Simone once wrote that the more vocal critics of comic writers are in truth just jealous and want their jobs.

Amokitty

Thank you much, Xak. :)

xakko

does NOT want to write comics. well, i don't think i can - i like happy endings ::lol

Amokitty

I very strongly disagree. I mean who hasn't thought the same thing of some episodes of their favorite TV show? From people who've never even wanted to be a writer at all. a story is a story is a story - regardless of the industry its in.

xakko

y'know, one thing i really hate is that Marvel has scrapped "Comic Book Time"

xakko

and is going to run into the issues DC has to keep their characters from aging

Amokitty

Is this official Xak? No 4 years to every one and all that?

xakko

officially, no.

J_Harper

To give Gail an excuse, I think she was reacting to some of the ad hominen attacks aimed at Devin Grayson at the time. I think a few posters at Comic Book Resources pretty much said Devin slept her way to her writing gigs.

xakko

but the number of events detailing that "a year has passed" - or more - make it difficult to say we're still on it

xakko

i can see that

Amokitty

My ignorance is showing, but I have to ask who Devin is. What does she write?

J_Harper

Say what you will about her run on Nightwing, but that was uncalled for.

xakko

she wrotew Nightwing for a while

J_Harper

Yeah, and it was a very controversal run for a number of reasons.

Amokitty

Okay, that rings a bell. Good to know. :)

darkstorm5000

I saw a little about this on S_D

xakko

I read that she through Nightwing through a Daredevil-esque gauntlet

xakko

threw

xakko

sheesh

Amokitty

Do people really think that there's a casting couch at DC? You're kidding.... right?

J_Harper

Hey, you know how sexist comic fans can be.

J_Harper

Especially the no-lifers.

Amokitty

oy.

J_Harper

Hell, there was an actual quote in some how to draw super-heroes by a fan - if her breasts aren't as large as her head, then she isn't a real female. Something to that effect.

xakko

oh dear

Amokitty

Typical.

J_Harper

And before you ask, yes, the book said this was a stupid thing to say.

Amokitty

Thank god. I sometimes wonder if fanboys actually live in the Stone Age.

J_Harper

Cripes, all this trivial bull I have in my head.

J_Harper

Have you ever run into it, Shari?

Amokitty

Don't we all? for the stuff that entertains/amuses us?

J_Harper

Point.

xakko

did you see this shortpacked? http://www.toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=242&itemid=15589

Amokitty

Thankfully, no. Not even as teen. The comics shops I've always gone to had owners who respected women (and our money). I DID run into a kid a couple of years ago who was flabbergasted at seeing me on my normal Wednesday pick-up day, who looked at me and then the owner and said, "wow, you get GIRLS inhere?!?" I laughed my head off.

J_Harper

Snort.

J_Harper

Oh God! Hah, that's funny, Xak.

darkstorm5000

Maybe that was more of a statement about them, than anything

xakko

and true

xakko

probably because they don't want to make a new sculpt, but also... well, you know

J_Harper

Shari, something like that happened at the gaming store I go to. I only heard it second hand, but a young woman walked in, and one of the regulars, who's maybe not all there, started to shout 'my god, there's a woman in here!' He kept on saying it until said woman left shortly after. He did not exactly improve his rep in the store because of that.

Amokitty

BOOBS! Like Mark says – “Everything's better with boobs". If your day sucks, it gets better with boobs. Now if THAT isn't sexist, I don't kow what is. But he says it with such reverence.... *sigh*

J_Harper

i like boobs (he says quietly and humbly).

J_Harper

And I think it's been bandied about on RPG.Net that everything is better with lesbians. Or maybe i just imagined that.

xakko

heh

J_Harper

This Willis draws a pretty cute Kitty. Both pre and post-enhanced!

xakko

i would say that most men do NOT get better when they get BOOBS... personally

xakko

and need a manziere. or a bro.

Amokitty

The kid who said to me that got shown the error of his ways by the owner. He very kindly told the kid the latest quarter financial specs and what percentage of comics from his store was bought by women. At the time it was like 15 percent, which he said was nothing to sneeze at. 15% is quite a bit.

J_Harper

Snort.

J_Harper

The owner was polite about it. Depending on how obnoxious someone was about it, I don't know how I would have reacted in his place.

Amokitty

Maybe Mark just says that because I'm well endowed and he's appreciative. I just don't know. Poor boy means well. *sigh*

xakko

hums Monty Pythons "Henry Kissinger" song.

xakko

(you've got nicer legs than Hitler, and bigger t*ts than Cher)

Amokitty

LOL. I love it!

Amokitty

Now I'm thinking about singing the praises of comfy cozy chairs...

xakko

lol

xakko

erk, brb again

Amokitty

NOBODY expects blah, blah, blah. ;)

J_Harper

Sigh. I owe you a book, Amo.

Amokitty

Shoot. Was gonna ask how Puff was doing.

Amokitty

Sweetheart, that's okay. It's not like I don't already have plenty to lust over. Seriously. *nods*

J_Harper

I promised to send you Kuttner's The Dark World, and never got around it.

Amokitty

Oh! *laughs* I thought you were talking about the EW magazine! LMAO

J_Harper

I think I still have that somewhere, if you want it.

xakko

hey Amokitty, did you hear about DiannePA?

J_Harper

I lost your address, anyway, when my old laptop fried. Could you e-mail it to me, and I'll try to get it out to you soon? The Dark World.

Amokitty

No. Is there something I should know? And why is it I'm afraid to ask??

xakko

oh... gah

Amokitty

It's okay, Jeremy! There's no rush or anything. :)

xakko

she was killed in a hospital explosion in the Ukraine a couple months ago.

xakko

(her sister as well)

Amokitty

I… I'm at a loss for words here. Jesus.

xakko

yeah...

Amokitty

I know she could be occasionally unpleasant sometimes, but I feel really bad. this is awful..

darkstorm5000

Who was she? (If you don't mind my asking)

xakko

she was the Personal assistant and good friend to one of the founders of Liverwireworld.com

xakko

she'd moved back to the Ukraine to be with her sister.

Amokitty

How is Ian handling it? Poor Ian.

xakko

he's getting by OK, but he was pretty shocked and inconsolable for several days

xakko

she also ... won? came in second? ... in a writing competition I ran a couple years ago.

Amokitty

An explosion? In a hospital?! that's insane.

darkstorm5000

Oh. My condolensces...

Amokitty

Didn't Rebecca win, and Dianne come in 2nd? Or vice versa?

xakko

i think they did both, in back to back years

Amokitty

This is just shocking. wow.

Amokitty

I mean hospitals do not just explode for God's sakes. at least they don't here.

xakko

it's apparently happened a couple times - oxygen tank, i believe

Amokitty

Twice????? Obviously they don't have OSHA like standards or anything do they? So sad.

xakko

yah

xakko

i didn't mean to drag the chat down, but i just thought you should know

xakko

the worst thing for me - after that horrible fight over Winnie-the-Pooh - was that she had sent a gift along with Ian and Rebecca for me and Deb

Amokitty

No, I completely understand. I have to laugh when I think of the sex advice she once gave me. Talk about THE expert, lol. I'm sure she'll be greatly missed.

xakko

* nods

Amokitty

Wasn't Furious friends with her too?

xakko

Furious had... to say a crush on her would be putting it mildly

Amokitty

Yeah, I suspected as much.

xakko

but he took it as hard as you can imagine

xakko

the whole thing reminded me of Joey

Amokitty

Jesus. This is just terrible. Funny when you think of all the people you "know" online, and yet don't really know anything about...

Amokitty

Yeah, I was thinking the exact same thing at the exact same moment. :)

Amokitty

How would I ever know if anything happened to any of you? This saddens me more than I can say just thinking about it.

xakko

so... anyway... that's the worst news of the year

xakko

deb would post for me, i know, but if both of us went... yeah, it's a terrible thing to think about

xakko

when i get around to making a will, i will include some sort of online notification thingy

Amokitty

That's an extremely good idea. The thought of never knowing is simply.... geez. I wish there a way of getting word out, but privacy is important too. fine line there.

xakko

one wonders if that's becoming more commonplace with the explosion of internet communities

darkstorm5000

That may become the next thing, some sort of system/service for this kind of situation, with everyone continuing to have more extensive online lives?

Amokitty

I was reading an article about internet communities replacing physical ones. That the intimacy of conversations online is just as valid as those in "real life". That friendships and romances that happen online are really just as important, and as time goes on it will become the norm.

xakko

Facebook Nation?

Amokitty

At least in internet communities you share things with likeminded people instead being forced to get along with your neighbor whom you may have little in common.

J_Harper

Folks, I'm beat. I'm going to head out. I hope to talk to you all later.

Amokitty

Ugh. Farmville somehow gave Mark a trojan so bad, he vowed never to go back. Every freaking person I know wants a pink cow. Good gravy.

Amokitty

Jeremy it was wonderful of you to join us tonight!! Thank you ever so much. I've missed you. :)

darkstorm5000

Goodnight, Jeremy!

J_Harper

:)

xakko

heh

xakko

g'nite JH!

J_Harper

Goodnight, all.

Amokitty

Sleep well and all that. :)

xakko

great to see you

xakko

and good luck with the job search

Amokitty

Night!

J_Harper

Thanks. Bye.

J_Harper left.

xakko

glad i never Farmville'd

Amokitty

My sister-in-law is threatening me with great harm if I don't join Facebook. I don't wanna be a sheep1

xakko

i did Superhero City for a while, but gave it up.

xakko

i only joined for the games, but now i actually know what the hell is going on in my family

Amokitty

I won't Twitter just out of principle.

xakko

well, yeah, that's just weird to me

darkstorm5000

I think I've looked at Facebook maybe once or twice, but that's as far as I've gotten.

Amokitty

Give it a year or two. It'll follow Myspace into the virtual void.

xakko

but Facebook - well, aside from my cousins inane posting of song lyrics and work schedules, it's nice to know when my niece and nephew had a soccer game

darkstorm5000

But to alot of the people I know and/or work with, it's like I'm some kind of anomaly (at least that's how I feel) for not using it

xakko

i shouldn't call it inane - they're teenagers, and its what is important to them

Amokitty

Important for the MOMENT. And it's for that very reason I can't be bothered. It's all so fleeting, plus, my life just isn't important enough to tell every little boring thing in it. I'd lose my friends and have nobody left to read them. Doesn't Kevin Smith have like a million friends or something? I like him a lot, but no. Just no.

xakko

well, that's the thing - i post a status update maybe once a month

xakko

something stupid about the Sabres or whatnot

xakko

but i also get updates about the nightly streaming that Enter the Haggis is doing, with a link to it

Amokitty

I've heard about John Mayer's tweets and get pissed every time. But people seem to think that what he has to say is like important or something.

xakko

or have Barenaked Ladies point out the location of their new single

xakko

and that's kinda cool

Amokitty

They're coming to Vancouver this summer. Still don't have my passport - tho Mark does. I need to just get the damn thing.

xakko

yah

xakko

so it definitely has its uses.

Amokitty

LOL

xakko

it also has me not wanting to see certain members of my family, since they insist of sharing their political views

darkstorm5000

Are John Mayers' tweets as 'charming' as his RL interviews?

Amokitty

Mark's family tends to the extreme right. Even his niece. I get pissed when my e-mail is spammed with rhetoric from well meaning 'loved ones' who think their priority in life to convert me. It simply doesn't register that I'm entitled to think what I want just like they do and not make any apologies for it. Ugh.

Amokitty

sorry Xak. You hit a hot button there.

Amokitty

Gonna shut it now.

xakko

no kidding. and no worries

xakko

i'm just not looking forward to the next get together on either side of the family

Amokitty

Gotta love those big family dinners! Woo-hoo!

xakko

i mean, my one aunt used to be my favorite of my dad's siblings... and now i don't want to be in the same room with her

Amokitty

I've been rather lonely lately, and you know what? I've found out that it isn't the end of the world.

xakko

'cause i'm afraid that i'll scream something like "Jesus's followers were COMMUNISTS!"

Amokitty

cracks up.....

Amokitty

It's a conspiracy I tell you!!!!

xakko

it's funny because it's TRUE

xakko

unless the Conservapedia Bible project has erased the Acts of the Apostles

xakko

ok, gotta get off my own soapbox

Amokitty

Well, not even Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John agreed on everything. they weren't always consistent.

Amokitty

*pets poor harried Xak*

xakko

agreed. Luke's Sermon on the Plan was scads more liberal than Matthew's Sermon on the Mount

Amokitty

True dat. Nobody can even get the Nativity right.

xakko

they totally leave out Brian.

xakko

* laughs

Amokitty

Yeah! Always look on the bright side of life and all that...

Amokitty

:D

xakko

heh...

xakko

oh, so i did my most ambitious cooking attempt ever today (yesterday here)

xakko

* spent 4 hours making Cincinnati Chili

Amokitty

Are you finally learning how to cook, dear? did you burn your house down? Is Deb still breathing?

Amokitty

How many alarms is that??

xakko

it's not spicy at all

Amokitty

My favorite kind!

xakko

it's got cocoa and cinammon in it

Amokitty

My white chicken chili kicks some serious ass.

Amokitty

Mmmmmmm.

xakko

and we think it's the same stuff that my in-laws favorite hot dog place uses as a topping

xakko

so we'll find out tomorrow - you have to refrigerate it overnight and then skim the fat away

Amokitty

Like coney sauce? Or actual chili?

xakko

it's actual Cincinnati style chili

Amokitty

Never head of it.

xakko

it's generally served over Spaghetti, oddly enough

xakko

with shredded cheddar

Amokitty

Oh! I have to heard it!!

Amokitty

But is it any good?

xakko

i'll have to let you know

darkstorm5000

Well, guys, I think I'm going to call it a night

Amokitty

Just didn't know it was indigenous to cincinatti

xakko

ok... glad you could make it

xakko

have a great night!

darkstorm5000

You both too, talk to you again soon!

darkstorm5000 left.

Amokitty

Darkstorm, thank you a hundred times over. I really wanted you to be here!! :)

xakko

i was researching chili to prove to Ian that beans aren't necessarilly essential to chili

Amokitty

F*ck!

Amokitty

Why? Why me?

xakko

you need to type just a *little* bit faster...

Amokitty

Darkstorm, I'm sorry I was late, and hope you read on the transcript that i'm glad you made it!!!

xakko

or they can read the transcript

xakko

:)

xakko

i always do

Amokitty

*sigh* I suck. I just suck. That is all.

xakko

no you don't

Amokitty

Do you ever laugh out loud at reading the transcript? I do. Even if I already laughed at most of the stuff before, I still find it funny. Or I'll pick up on something I missed and snort.

xakko

and we do love you

xakko

yes, i sometimes miss things when we're live

xakko

and have found some great ideas to add to stories

xakko

if i were writing them now (GAH)

Amokitty

God knows I love you guys. I was thinking the other day about the good people who these things, and wonder what on earth they must think of us.

Amokitty

Who READ these things You know me, as it gets later my typing gets worse...

xakko

well, yeah. sometimes i worry about people who do read them without attending

xakko

i mean, if you wanted to attend, but couldn't, sure

Amokitty

Yes, exactly that.

xakko

but... otherwise it seems like voyeurism

Amokitty

I mean sometimes the odd fan shows up, and I can't help but wonder what they think of it all.

Amokitty

I'm a world class lurker, myself.

Amokitty

:)

Amokitty

Or at least I was. Haven't done much of that lately.

xakko

i gathered, if you hadn't heard about Kari (DiannePA)

xakko

does this mean you don't have any new Twilight fanfiction recommendations to share with Deb?

Amokitty

Was that her name? Like I said, it's difficult to really know people online.

xakko

Kari, yes. And Black Widow was Catherine

Amokitty

Ha! I do actually! It's a human story though. It has 50, 000 reviews. I didn't think that was possible.

xakko

holy crap

xakko

now i am jealous

Amokitty

Yeah, you and everyone else.

Amokitty

;)

xakko

i'm just excited when someone reads their way through Kits or BoM each month

Amokitty

Is it still getting traffic?

Amokitty

Your stories, I mean? People are searching and finding your stuff? :)

xakko

yeah

xakko

apparently someone in Israel read the whole of BoM this month

Amokitty

You know I think that came out wrong... lemme try again.

xakko

fanfiction.net has wonderful stats pages now

Amokitty

Most stories get traffic because they're "in-progress" and updated, but the ones that are complete get fewer unless one is specifically looking for a character/charcter pairing and using the search function. So I think it's cool to know there are still people looking Kitty and Peter stories.

xakko

it lets you know how many different visitors read your stuff and where they were from

xakko

for example, this month i've had 69 visitors who've had 165 hits

Amokitty

My site does that too with a monthly report, but I haven't looked at that for a long time. I was always surprised by it. Gratified too. It felt good to know that something I did garnered somebody's interest somewhere.

Amokitty

Do you know if your stories get bot traffic?

xakko

no idea.

xakko

but for the most part, it seems genuine. i like to think

Amokitty

does the interest inspire you to want to write on those lunch breaks of yours again? :)

xakko

sort of, but not enought to actually do it.

xakko

i'd like to say i'm doing research but that would be a lie

Amokitty

LOL

xakko

the funny thing was that i'd started to think of a whole "time travel" aspect to it

Amokitty

Well, if Deb ain't interested in being your beta, you can still count on me should need arise!

xakko

that they were projected back in time

xakko

if i can get motivated. it's the one new years resolution i haven't kept :(

Amokitty

Right. I remember. Kitty would be PO'd that she was 14 again if I'm correct.

Amokitty

Good news is it's still early in the year. :)

xakko

well, the idea was to try to align it better with the years the HP books reflected

xakko

and i would almost have been able to do that, accounting for Marvel time

xakko

but it ended up being a few years off

Amokitty

You mean that thing they won't acknowlege anymore?

Amokitty

Marvel time that is

xakko

yeah, but it worked for me

xakko

Dan Slott was a big fan of it

xakko

what with Ben Grimm's "bar mitzvah" for 13 years as the Thing

Amokitty

It IS your story though, it fits if you want it to, but I know youre a stickler for continuity.

xakko

well, the time travel would also explain why they can't call in reinforcements

Amokitty

Yep.

xakko

gah, brb, potty break!

Amokitty

One of the things I loved best (aside from the Peter and Cedric friendship which you already know about, lol) was your choice of villains. I liked the angle of Doom with Voldy. It gives the story that sense of greatness to it. A theatricality that BoM had too.

Amokitty

Ok1

xakko

back again

xakko

well, Doom was just a scene, like the one with the Illuminati. the other villain really was going to be Rasputin

xakko

and i would've killed him the f*ck off

xakko

for good.

Amokitty

You know it was one of the things that ticked me off about Kitty's return too - the complete lack of anything that made it seem *important*. The whole gravity of the situation was lost.

xakko

just Magneto's "redemption"

Amokitty

Wait a minute. You would've killed Doom? that's brilliant!!! I'm rolling!!

xakko

i do commend Fraction for admitting that he miswrote Prof. X's reaction to Magneto

xakko

nonono, Rasputin

Amokitty

Okey dokey.

xakko

you can't kill Doom. it's always a Doombo

xakko

bot

Amokitty

Yeah...

xakko

i was going to have Voldy AK a Doombot, actually

Amokitty

I would like to see that. Maybe off Kristoff too (j/k).

xakko

ha

Amokitty

Never knew what happened to him.

Amokitty

Is he still a kid??

xakko

not sure at all

xakko

and i didn't keep up with DoomWar or whatever it was called to find out

Amokitty

Me neither.

Amokitty

Weren't thinking about killing off a certain trio member too, if I recall? lol

xakko

i'd toyed with it, but, i dunno... i hate character death

Amokitty

Honestly character death spits on the face of canon. It really does. It's a complete lack of respect to the writers who came before and fans past and present. Everybody treats death like a joke, and I cant help but wonder why

xakko

yeah

xakko

and i don't have hard feelings towards Ron.

xakko

(still think he's the most realistic character Rowling wrote in the series)

Amokitty

Forgive me, but I simply cannot like the character. Can't do it. It's just me.

xakko

that's fine. teenage boys tend to be unlikable.

Amokitty

realistic as in kind of a selfish brat?

Amokitty

Sorry.

xakko

yes

xakko

teenagers really do tend to be selfish

xakko

and bratty

xakko

from what i recall... lol

Amokitty

I know teens, like children, tend to be a bit self absorbed, but hopefully not selfish - just the asshole ones. ;)

Amokitty

You know like the kid at the playground on the swing who yells, "Mommy! Look at me!" while swinging as high as he/she can go. :)

xakko

he just reminded me of a bunch of kids i knew - and worked with in retail

Amokitty

Oh god.... retail. I have nightmares over my sentence in retail.

xakko

trying to get the kids in high school to take their job seriously... was a lot like talking to a "Ron"

Amokitty

Got my first "real" job at 16. I HAD to take it seriously - I was working as a receptionist in Juvenile court for the counselors there. Being a juvenile myself, I found it funny.

xakko

whoa...

xakko

i started at 17 at 7-11

xakko

and, frankly, i didn't take it seriously

Amokitty

:D

xakko

gah

xakko

so, it's midnight here...

Amokitty

Never really got to be immature as a kid. Maybe that's why I can't stand Ron????

xakko

that explains a LOT, actually

Amokitty

Well, it's midnight for me anyway.... don't want to think what it is for you!!! heh.

xakko

ha!

xakko

i must be tired if i'm thinking in PAcific Time

xakko

point taken...

Amokitty

Precisely. :D

xakko

so, we up for Uncanny 523 chat?

Amokitty

Yes, Xak. Count on it. :)

xakko

Groovy!

xakko

and don't be a stranger, k?

xakko

we missed you lots

xakko

and hope things turn up for you

Amokitty

My only fear is that we'll have little to discuss Kitty-wise. Unless some of you are fired up and want to share tidbits to upcoming stories that right Fraction's wrongs.

Amokitty

I missed you too. Lots. Heaps. Piles even.

Amokitty

heh, heh.

Amokitty

I really did.

xakko

now there's a thought.