Transcript for KIOTR Chat - 3/24/07
Topic: General Discussion / Kiotr Fanfiction

 

 

Amokitty

Evening everybody! Tonight's Chat will be a little different because Astonishing X-Men isn't due for its next release until May 2nd. That means our discussion this evening will be about anything and everything!  :D

 

xakko joined.

 

 

xakko

hey there!

 

xakko

i'm early!

 

Amokitty

Hellooooo Nurse!

 

Amokitty

Nothin' wrong with being early! :)

 

xakko

i never was that fashionable, late or otherwise

 

Amokitty

Me neither!

 

Amokitty

How's it going?

 

xakko

not too badly... last weekend off for a while,save for easter nuttiness

 

xakko

how's by you?

 

Amokitty

Doing good! My hands smell like Pina Coladas though..... :D

 

xakko

oh? inebriated kitty?

 

Amokitty

Nope!!! It's the shampoo that was used to bathe my dog! I just got home half an hour ago from the groomers! Heh.

 

xakko

heh! is that how they keep the dogs sedated long enough for a bath?

 

xakko

so, did you have many people who said they would show tonight?

 

Amokitty

hee, not sure how they do it, but Molly came back with a bow on her collar and much praise for being so good. I was in shock. Really? MY dog? But they swore she was an angel. :)

 

Amokitty

Hardly anyone confirms when it comes to these things, but Darkstorm said he'd be here, and I think Rose mentioned she'd come too.

 

xakko

ah... i'm hoping Kirayoshi comes, i loved that new bit to his story

 

Amokitty

Kirayoshi, you, and Mel have all written wonderful snippets in just the last couple of days!

 

xakko

thanks... did you get to see the costumes?

 

xakko

I wish I'd presented them better. I can't color worth a darn

 

Amokitty

Yes, I did. I love Kitty and Peter's. It's far more practical than what you usually see, but still stylish. You do a great job with your art.

 

Amokitty

I loved Cyke's costume too! It had some similarities with Quitely's version, but was distincly yours.

 

xakko

I don't think I'm going to color my Belasco... I really don't want to ruin it. I just have no sense of light and shadow

 

Amokitty

I loved the Belasco one! I noticed that he had two arms though. Was that intentional?

 

xakko

yeah...

 

xakko

in one of the stories with him - and i'm thinking it was the novel - he'd gotten his other arm back and i was going with that.

 

Amokitty

Ooooohhh! It's story related, isn't it?!

 

Amokitty

Whoops! Just answered that, huh?

 

xakko

did you read the novel with Dracula, Belasco, the X-men and Excalibur?

 

Amokitty

I didn't. Now I'm sorry....

 

xakko

It had its moments - "Soul Killer" is the title.

 

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xakko

hi Rose!

 

MadR

Hiya

 

Amokitty

Howdy, Ms. Rose!! How's tricks? :D

 

Amokitty

Long pause... you there, Rose??

 

xakko

she's typing...

 

xakko

and still?

 

MadR

So here's a plan: we find out if Marvel Entertainment is publicly traded, gather all the sane people from LJ, CBR and Livewire to buy stocks, and start complaining about the publishing delays as investors. Whattya think?

 

Amokitty

Dammit, I'm with you!!!! YES!

 

xakko

worth a shot.

 

xakko

except isn't it part of a mega-corporation

 

Amokitty

I mean Joe Q thinks with dollar signs rather than integrity anyway.....

 

xakko

i take it back - Marvel Entertainment is publically traded

 

xakko

MVL on the NYSE

 

xakko

i thought it was part of Warner Brothers or something

 

Amokitty

DC is part of Time-Warner.

 

MadR

I actually saw that in a magazine as a 'dealing with customer service technique' believe it or not.

 

MadR

Guy bought ten shares of stock in a company...airline, I think...that was giving a friend the runaround, so he could complain to Investor Relations. Then sold the stock as a small profit a couple of days later.

 

Amokitty

Really? god knows Marvel's 'customer service' sucks pretty bad. I think he's made it blatantly clear what he thinks of the X-Men and its fans. How he gets away with it is beyond me. God knows the other titles aren't pulling in the dough like the X-Men family is.

 

xakko

well, don't worry about that, shari. joey q will probably use the forthcoming EVENT to shape the X-books to something more his liking.

 

xakko

i had a running daydream this week about buying Marvel and firing Joey Q

 

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Amokitty

You know it's not just Quesada either...

 

Amokitty

Hey Mel!!

 

MadR

Hi Mel.

 

xakko

hiya MR!

 

melodyrider

Hi everybody!

 

melodyrider

How's it going?

 

xakko

speaking of EVENTs, Rose, did you hear about David Eddings?

 

Amokitty

Axel Alonso said he wanted to shake things up too. I've read in the past about fans being worried about that.

 

MadR

Xak: nope

 

melodyrider

Xakko has suddenly acquired my full and undevided attention

 

xakko

he blowed himself up a bit

 

Amokitty

Can't speak for anybody else, but my day's gone great. :)

 

Amokitty

Please elaberate!!

 

MadR

Oh, the car thing? Yeah heard that.

 

melodyrider

Thanks you amo! I was having trouble finding the words

 

MadR

You do not test for gasoline with a lit match!

 

melodyrider

*laughs* no, no you do not

 

Amokitty

I may have found 'em, Mel - but I sure can't spell 'em!!

 

xakko

it made News of the Weird - he was draining the gas from a car he was putting in storage, then noticed a puddle of liquid. not knowing if it was gas or water, he threw a match at it

 

melodyrider

Judging from my first few posts, neither can I :)

 

MadR

Burned down his garage and attached office....

 

Amokitty

Wow. Just..... strange.

 

Amokitty

I hope his manuscripts for upcoming stories are saved!

 

xakko

anyway, how's everyone's writing coming along?

 

MadR

Definite senior moment there.

 

xakko

i hate to say it, because i love love love the Belgariad, but he hasn't had an original story in years.

 

MadR

I'm working on Essential Colossus...coming along slowly.

 

melodyrider

Yay Rose!

 

xakko

you just finished your latest chapter, right MR?

 

Amokitty

All right!!

 

melodyrider

Xakko, have you read Regina's Song?

 

MadR

Not quite, but I'm getting there.

 

melodyrider

Yup, I'm editing it right now, but FF.net won't let me log in, so I won't be able to post it *slaps FF.net*

 

xakko

that's the one i haven't. i got a little depressed with the Elder Gods

 

MadR

Everybody see Kirayoshi's snippet of Bloodlines: Family Runion?

 

melodyrider

Loved it!

 

MadR

Reunion.

 

xakko

i'm trying hard not to piss off Shari with the character i'm bringing in soon

 

Amokitty

Oh yes, indeed!

 

melodyrider

Can't wait to see the whole thing

 

Amokitty

Ummm...... huh? Whaddaya gonna DO to him, anyway?!!!!

 

Amokitty

Don't hurt him!

 

Amokitty

heh, heh.

 

xakko

gah

 

xakko

um, maybe i'd better change that one plot bit... er, it may be too late

 

Amokitty

*laughs*

 

melodyrider

Fear the Amo! :)

 

Amokitty

*laughs harder!*

 

xakko

let me as you this: if you could pair Illyana with anyone, who would it be?

 

MadR

brb

 

xakko

and while you are thinking that - what about Rachel?

 

Amokitty

I think you know this, Xak. You, me, and Joey had a discussion about this during a previous chat, quite a while back.

 

Amokitty

Franklin! Poor, dead, Franklin!

 

MadR

Bak. Hm. Illyana/Doug Rachel/Nightcrawler?

 

Amokitty

Sorry, I should have stated that RAY needs to be with Franklin....

 

melodyrider

High five's Shari!

 

Amokitty

hands Rose a No-Prize.

 

MadR

shrugs, grins

 

melodyrider

I so wanted her to become Franklin's babysitter, just to see her get weird and shy about it

 

Amokitty

High fives all around! ::coolsmile

 

xakko

Franklin is still a kid, makes it hard to pair them up.

 

xakko

i am going to have to make a decision about where Kurt goes in the story, and i'm torn

 

Amokitty

I would love that, Mel! An uneasy feeling, and yet so much pure love.... Awwwww. :(

 

xakko

would Rachel work for Reed, given his evil machinations?

 

Amokitty

Korvus might have potential down the road, but right now he's just a lame plot device.

 

MadR

Mel, and Franklin would have a crush on her, which just makes everything worse. That would be perfect.

 

melodyrider

She might work for Sue

 

xakko

true, that

 

melodyrider

Especially if Katie Power got jealous Rose! Getting fic idea :)

 

MadR

There's someone on LJ...Sionan or something? writing Rachel/Sinister.

 

Amokitty

Exactly, Rose!

 

Amokitty

Sionnain?

 

xakko

Rachel/Sinister?????

 

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Amokitty

Hi there, honey!

 

MadR

That's it! Sionnain. On Likeadeuce's friendslist.

 

amocat

howdy

 

MadR

I haven't read any, but saw the fic with headers come up while I was lurking.

 

Amokitty

(my husband is joining in, and sees us, but we can't see him yet... )

 

MadR

Hiya Amocat

 

amocat

hey rose.

 

melodyrider

Hello Amocat!

 

Amokitty

If only I could type faster...... sigh.

 

amocat

hey melo.

 

amocat

hi xakko

 

amocat

I'm working on the inviso thing... :-)

 

Amokitty

I still haven't mastered that one yet, sweetheart.

 

Amokitty

This room can do cool things. If only I could remember it all!

 

xakko

heyas amocat, welcome aboard

 

xakko

* is still trying to see Mr. Sinister as any sort of romantic figure

 

Amokitty

Rachel/Sinister sounds kinda sick.... I could see HIS attraction, but HERS???

 

Amokitty

After all, she is a Summers!

 

MadR

The total freaking out of Scott?

 

Amokitty

That sounds about as weird as the pairing that was suggested in ComixFan. Peter/Emma.

 

xakko

yeah... gah.

 

Amokitty

Xak, didn't you mention that made you want to vomit?? LOL.

 

xakko

yup.

 

xakko

it's just not where 616 Colossus could ever be. Callisto, maybe, given their history. But Emma? Really?

 

MadR

I can see a talented author making Sinister/Rachel work, with a lot of redemption or dark-fic worldbuilding, but Peter/Emma? Nope.

 

Amokitty

I'll never buy Callisto. Never. The way that came about was the most contrived BS - at least I think so, at any rate.

 

melodyrider

Yeah, Peter/Emma is just... no

 

xakko

that he was amnesiac and she was transformed?

 

Amokitty

Peter would have to respect the one he loves. How can one respect Emma?

 

xakko

unless I_C_E_F was just doing it to irritate the Hunn...

 

Amokitty

Xak, yeah.... but Peter was so radically transformed, he stopped being himself all together. the American Peter Nicholas was kinda superficial.

 

Amokitty

Forgive my ignorance, what is I_C_E_F?

 

Amokitty

Oh!! Never mind!

 

xakko

ice cold emma frost

 

Amokitty

The idiot poster, isn't it? Ha!

 

xakko

we're talking about comixfan...

 

Amokitty

That place is so inhospitable lately. More so than usual.

 

xakko

then again, i hate to say it, but my opinion of most bulletin board posters is at an exceedingly low ebb right now.

 

xakko

i imagine they think the same about me, although i see that they don't argue many of my points

 

Amokitty

Mine too. It's made me sad to go to CBR. It's ugly now.

 

melodyrider

I've missed out on a lot of what's gone on there lately

 

Amokitty

Oh god, Mel..... it's awful.

 

xakko

i think i would be a lot happier if i could just make myself like Mike Carey

 

Amokitty

Avoid the Claremont threads at all costs.

 

xakko

heck yeah

 

MadR

And this is why I stick to LJ and the few people I know are sane, literate and polite.

 

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Amokitty

So why is it different? Why is the atmosphere better at LJ??

 

melodyrider

Hello Jeremy!

 

MadR

Hi Jeremy!

 

J_Harper

'Allow.

 

Amokitty

Hello Jeremy!!!! Woot!

 

xakko

hi jeremy!

 

J_Harper

Hope everyone here is well.

 

xakko

tolerable.

 

Amokitty

Things are great! :)

 

MadR

Plotting a hostile takeover of Marvel Entertainment.

 

xakko

except apparently i have a ff.net stalker!

 

Amokitty

That is, if you can excuse the Astonishing delays....

 

MadR

A stalker!?

 

J_Harper

Ticked about the Sabers, Xak? At least you have a hockey team that isn't run by miserly incompetents. ;)

 

Amokitty

huh???!!

 

J_Harper

Stocker?

 

J_Harper

Stalker.

 

J_Harper

?

 

melodyrider

How does someone stalk on ff.net?

 

MadR

Flamey-abusive reviews in every story?

 

xakko

no, someone told me they would find me if i didn't update soon!

 

Amokitty

LOL!!

 

J_Harper

Heh. Well, I guess that technically is a threat.

 

xakko

well, they did threaten minions!

 

MadR

Heh. Yeah, I've had a few of those in other fandoms

 

Amokitty

Minions??

 

melodyrider

I want minions...

 

Amokitty

Me too!!

 

xakko

and JH, kinda bummed about the game, but you can't win 'em all

 

xakko

i just want to run Marvel for a month

 

J_Harper

Could be worse. You could be a hockey fan and be living in Boston right now. Go Bruins. Yawn.

 

xakko

well, maybe a decade or two

 

Amokitty

I want you to, too Xak. Quite badly.

 

MadR

Lotto tickets? is the second phase of my plan.

 

xakko

heh, the owner of the Bruins is from Buffalo

 

Amokitty

Let's hear more of the plan, Rose! We buy stock and Lotto tickets.... then what? :D

 

J_Harper

Yeah, I know. And he's villainized around here. Boston use to be a big hockey city. MA. use to be a big hockey state. You can thank Jacobs for the decline of hockey love around here.

 

xakko

he's probably a Sabres fan. He lives in the same town as my grandparents

 

xakko

first things first- Joey Q gets fired.

 

J_Harper

Heh.

 

MadR

Take over the comics industry, of course. Cut the big Events books, push up the ordinary publishing schedule...

 

J_Harper

So, has Marvel announced some new trechery now?

 

xakko

second thing, i call in Craig and Chris and give them six issues to undo their damage.

 

J_Harper

If I was running Marvel I wouldn't let Mark Millar within 100 yards of a superhero title.

 

Amokitty

We now know the reason for the delays. and we don't like it one bit.

 

xakko

we expect the upcoming X-event to do to Mutants what Civil War did to the Avengers and Fantastic Four

 

J_Harper

What delays?

 

Amokitty

The Astonishing X-Men delays.

 

xakko

correction, JH - Millar can do Ultimate books only

 

J_Harper

Oh yeah. Lia told me. Q has Cassidy working on something else right now.

 

Amokitty

If only someone would undo House of M and Civil War!

 

xakko

Ultimate becomes the playground, 616 becomes focused on consistent characterization

 

J_Harper

Eh. Well, I wouldn't cancel the Ultimate books, but I'd deffinitely have a low tolerance policy towards them if their numbers drop.

 

Amokitty

Yep! The new Fallen Son book is more important than Joss, Astonishing, or the fans! :(

 

J_Harper

What's Fallen Son again?

 

xakko

death of captain america mini

 

xakko

(reaction to it, anyway)

 

MadR

Run a few books as 'comic' comic books, like the Power Pack books.

 

Amokitty

A new series that deals with Civil War fallout. Am I right, guys?

 

J_Harper

Will there be a picture of Tony pissing on Steve's grave?

 

Amokitty

ha!!!

 

J_Harper

God, how will they ever salvage that character.

 

xakko

apparently our futurist who allowed him to be moved without protection (even the big vest that Timothy McVeigh got) is distraught

 

Amokitty

Tony is pretty much worthless as a hero now.

 

melodyrider

I can only think noble sacrifice at this point

 

MadR

You know that Civil War will be erased by the time Downey Jr's liveaction Iron Man movie comes out.

 

xakko

except there are people who love that crap

 

J_Harper

And I hate Millar anyhow. I honestly despise the man for a comment he made, but, considering his style of writing, is perfectly in character for him.

 

Amokitty

We can hope, Rose. BTW, it's Downey and Paltrow's movie now. Boy did THAT surprise me.

 

Amokitty

What comment, Jeremy?

 

xakko

i would almost want Kurt Busiek to be EIC

 

xakko

but i do want him writing, possibly an X-book

 

J_Harper

He said that anyone who plays video games are pedophiles, and he compared online video game play to the practice of grooming, or said that he was reminded of grooming.

 

xakko

the WHAT NOW?

 

J_Harper

My friend Joe has sworn he'll knock the man's teeth out if he ever meets him. And I'm damn well tempted to get in his face and dare him to call me a pedophile.

 

MadR

that is not earth logic

 

J_Harper

He's an absolutely ignorant fucker, and I have no use for him.

 

Amokitty

Huh. My husband never struck me as a pedophile.....  Wow, I guess I learn something new every day! Thank you so much, Mr. Millar!!!!

 

J_Harper

And this is a guy that's one of the primary architects of the Marvel universe right now.

 

MadR

Well that explains a few things

 

Amokitty

He and Bendis.

 

xakko

Bendis is tricky for me

 

xakko

i love some of his stuff, i hate some of his stuff

 

J_Harper

He's made this comment twice. I think both times during interviews at CBR.

 

J_Harper

Bendis I can take or leave. I know I wouldn't be giving him so many books and so much say so on story direction.

 

xakko

i love (or loved) Powers, liked much of Ultimate Spidey, and found Alias to be a great read...

 

Amokitty

My god. He's insulted a huge percentage of his readership or their families. Why is this not more widespread knowledge?

 

MadR

Okay, so Mark Millar is going on the Not To Buy/Support list with Frank Miller and Dan Didio

 

J_Harper

Quite frankly, I think I'm about done with Marvel. I'll stay with Captain America for a while, 'cause honestly its a good book. Runaways too. But I think Dark Horse will be getting almost all my money from now on.

 

xakko

no DC for you, Rose?

 

Amokitty

Dan Didio, while no saint - is STILL not as bad as Quesada!

 

J_Harper

I got to admit, though, World War Hulk looks like it could be a lot of fun.

 

MadR

I got into DC comics more because of Booster and Beetle...just in time for that big killoff

 

xakko

I dunno, Infinite Crisis pissed me off as much as Civil War

 

melodyrider

Gotta love some good old fashioned Hulk smashing

 

J_Harper

Heh. :) We're fans. Fans seem to do nothing but get pissed off. ;)

 

xakko

I'll still get Justice, tho'

 

MadR

And I'm not on Girl Wonder or anything, but the Stephanie stuff is starting to piss me off.

 

Amokitty

52 just killed off Isis, too. Why are they doing this? Is death the new black, or something?

 

J_Harper

Was it as gory as Osiris?

 

xakko

does anyone remember the Isis TV show?

 

Amokitty

*laughs* nope! Not as bad as that!

 

J_Harper

I have vague memories of that and Shazam from when I was very young.

 

J_Harper

Lia will hopefully be popping in at some point.

 

MadR

He apparently said again, at a con, that Steph wasn't a real Robin.

 

Amokitty

Sorry that I might've spoiled that for you, Jeremy!

 

J_Harper

Eh, don't worry about it. I'm not reading DC right now anyhow.

 

Amokitty

Oh Mighty Isis!!!! :D Oh yeah, I remember all right!

 

MadR

Very vaguely remember the Isis tv show

 

J_Harper

Though I have to pick up the new Sandman Mystery Theater limited. God, I loved that series.

 

Amokitty

I'm glad Lia can come!!

 

J_Harper

My girlfriend is such a geek. ;) She was wearing a Supergirl t-shirt while I was out there. Old School Supergirl, with the skirt and the Jane Fonda hair. :)

 

J_Harper

She likes that Supergirl a lot better than the anorexic bimbo flying around now. ;)

 

Amokitty

Was it Kara in her old shorts and sandals outfit?

 

Amokitty

Whoops! too slow!

 

MadR

Oh, the new supergirl origin was an interesting idea that fell flat fast.

 

J_Harper

No sandals. Red high heel boots.

 

Amokitty

But she still looks better than Power Girl!

 

xakko

anyone read "Fallen Angel"?

 

J_Harper

Are they canceling Supergirl, or retooling her? I think Lia mentioned something about that, but I can't remember it now. :/

 

xakko

isn't she with the Legion right now?

 

Amokitty

I have, Xak. They're in a box somewhere.

 

Amokitty

Fallen Angel I mean.

 

MadR

Don't really know anything about Supergirl's future.

 

MadR

Wouldn't be surprised if they're retooling again tho.

 

Amokitty

Tell us about your trip, Jeremy. If you want to, that is.

 

J_Harper

Sure! It was a lot of fun. I met Lia's friend Corrine again. We went to the Aquarium at the Pacific, the Getty, and then the Santa Ana Zoo and the Discovery Science Museum. We talked a lot and enjoyed each other's company and had a very good time.

 

J_Harper

Also we saw a lot of puppies and she wants me to buy her one now. :)

 

J_Harper

My girlfriend is a puppy fiend.

 

Amokitty

The Getty, that's fantastic. I've always wanted to go there.

 

xakko

sounds amazing, Jeremy

 

Amokitty

Awwwww, puppies.

 

J_Harper

Second time I've been there. Spent a lot of time there. We probably won't go again next time I'm out. Lia will be coming out my way in September.

 

MadR

Sounds like a great trip

 

J_Harper

She's thrown down a gauntlet that I have to pick up though. I have to run an role playing game for her.

 

Amokitty

Fantastic news, Jeremy.

 

Amokitty

Now THAT should be interesting! heh.

 

J_Harper

I mentioned on the trip that I have to run a game for her, and she said that I always say that and never do it. So she's going to end up gaming this September. A birthday treat, I hope.

 

Amokitty

Then her birthday is in Sept.?

 

J_Harper

She also gave me a Valentine's day gift, which was also a very late anniversary present - a digital camera.

 

J_Harper

Yup. Sept. 20th.

 

Amokitty

Niiiice gift!

 

J_Harper

Yeah. :) She also got me a collection of Mary Jane Loves Spider-Man. I got her Mutts 5 and a book called Sword and Blossom.

 

xakko

coolness!

 

J_Harper

Funny, Q doesn't like Mary Jane with Peter in 616, but has no problems flogging the relationship elsewhere.

 

Amokitty

I hope you guys have a blast in Sept. You can play tour guide then!

 

J_Harper

Yesh. :) Been two years since her last trip out here.

 

Amokitty

Joey Q doesn't like anything but Avengers related stuff.

 

J_Harper

Joey da Q is a moron.

 

J_Harper

I'm sorry - Intellectually Challenged.

 

Amokitty

the company Mark works for is based in MA. He might go there this year, and if he does then I'm going to go too. Never been to the East coast....

 

xakko

didn't the writer to that just leave for DC? Sean McKeever?

 

J_Harper

You realize that if these chats are far more read than we think, we'll probably never work for Marvel OR DC. ;)

 

xakko

(we just picked up the little digests - it's good stuff)

 

xakko

it was Joey Q that hacked kiotr.net!

 

Amokitty

LOL!!! We're in so much trouble now...... hee!

 

J_Harper

I hope you enjoy the trip, if you come out. It's quite nice out here, if I do say so. :)

 

MadR

Thus my plan to eventually own both companies. Is Evil Genius.

 

J_Harper

Heh. :)

 

Amokitty

I wouldn't doubt it, Xak! That whole thing was pretty weird.

 

Amokitty

i wish to God that Rose DID own both companies!!

 

J_Harper

Well, I doubt it was any Ketes. Probably some opportunists from Eastern Europe or India who noticed the site and thought to make a run for it.

 

xakko

but, then i can't own Marvel!

 

J_Harper

Lia would like to be editor in chief at Marvel. She think she'd be better at bullying the writers than actually writing.

 

Amokitty

At least those bastards didn't get very far.

 

xakko

if the Ketes really wanted to hack it, they would have defaced it, i imagine

 

melodyrider

Sucks that they did it, no matter the motivation

 

Amokitty

Well, I think they could use a little bullying too.

 

J_Harper

Eh, lets not get Kete paranoid. Back in Ranma 1/2 fandom, there was this writer, fairly good, named Greg Sharpe, who blamed every hack attack or glitch on his website on fans of a character he hated. It made him look like a doofus.

 

Amokitty

I'll be forever surprised that anyone would even bother with my site. It's not like it's huge or anything....

 

J_Harper

For something that isn't that huge, it does get some pretty good traffic.

 

MadR

I wasn't really serious about the ketes doing it, just trying to cheer Amokitty up after the hassle of dealing with it

 

J_Harper

:)

 

Amokitty

Nah, I doubt it was a Kete. If only because they love Kitty too! ;)

 

xakko

ditto... like i said, if there was serious enmity there, it would have been obvious

 

xakko

i bet Ketes use the site too, for the gallery

 

Amokitty

Exactly, Xak.

 

J_Harper

Is CBRF still a cesspool of Colossus hating?

 

xakko

not exactly, based on the Colossus vs. Juggernaut thread

 

Amokitty

Not too bad. the Colossus/Juggernaut thread was popular.

 

Amokitty

yeah, what Xak said!

 

MadR

So, ten years of Buffy The Vampire Slayer. Who read the season 8 comic?

 

melodyrider

*raises hand*

 

J_Harper

Haven't paid attention to it.

 

Amokitty

Claremont though..... it's seriously bad there at CBR now.

 

J_Harper

Claremont getting whacked?

 

melodyrider

I even wrote a review on LWW

 

MadR

I've seen a few scans, any good?

 

Amokitty

CC is getting the crap kicked out of him at CBR.

 

J_Harper

What for?

 

xakko

well, the haters are out en masse, but his defenders are fighting back

 

xakko

mostly it's ugly as hell

 

melodyrider

I enjoyed it enough to pick up the rest of the opening arc

 

Amokitty

It’s just because he's Claremont and for no other reason. It's brought out the ugly like it's goin' out of style. People are getting really vicious.

 

melodyrider

I especially liked Xander in it, and Dawn *snickers*

 

J_Harper

He's the new Stan Lee!

 

J_Harper

;)

 

Amokitty

*chuckles*

 

J_Harper

Use to be everyone kicked the shit out of Stan.

 

MadR

Xander's Sgt. Fury joke. the best!

 

Amokitty

CC is OUT. Carey is IN.

 

J_Harper

Hell, I guess they still do. Guy named Andrew Rilstone - very smart guy, big Kirby fan - can't resist taking swipes at Lee.

 

MadR

I saw someone on scans daily saying they thought Dawn looked too much like Kitty in Astonishing.

 

Amokitty

Giant! Dawn cracked me up! "She slept with Kenny, I just know it!" Ha, ha!

 

MadR

which cracked me up because I always mentally cast MT as Kitty in a live-action X Men Evo.

 

J_Harper

Oh, Lia told me today that Shadowcat will be in the new Wolverine cartoon - her voice actress has been cast. Same woman who does Batgirl in the new Batman cartoon.

 

Amokitty

Michelle has turned out to be so lovely. :)

 

MadR

Ooh cool! So maybe possibly some kiotr eventually!

 

J_Harper

Maybe. They haven't done all the casting yet. Only three, so far - Wolverine, Cyke and Kitty.

 

Amokitty

I heard that, too. And the Wolverine voice is being done by the same guy who did Logan's voice in X-Men Legends I and II

 

melodyrider

Wow, suddenly the Wolvie cartoon got a lot more interesting!

 

MadR

I just hope the art is decent.

 

J_Harper

Eh, can't be worse than the FF cartoon - I heard that was dreadful. CN got rid of it pretty damn fast, too.

 

xakko

pretty awful. C & C must have been bringing their New X-Men game and not their Evo game

 

MadR

Oh, and just picked up Excalibur Classic 3: I always match Jossverse and X-Men archetypes up.....Courtney Ross is a lot like Lilah Morgan.

 

J_Harper

Crosstime Caper. Did it have the Mars/Barsoom arc in it?

 

MadR

Not yet, I don't think....

 

darkstorm5000 joined.

 

 

MadR

They did have the bipedal Lockheed dragon-man, so I have to go back and reread that one fic of Jeremys...

 

Amokitty

Hiya DS!!!! :D

 

xakko

hey there DS

 

MadR

Hiya DS

 

J_Harper

Yeah, that's the Barsoom arc. :)

 

melodyrider

Hi DS!

 

darkstorm5000

Hi everybody!

 

J_Harper

Hi there!

 

Amokitty

If they've got Capt. Lockheed then it sounds like the Warlord from Mars stories might be included.

 

melodyrider

I loved that arc. Kitty still has the knack for storytelling, that's for sure

 

J_Harper

Kitty beat up the chef and running around in the skimpy costume that she wasn't comfortable in but Rachel was fine in. :)

 

MadR

Yep, it is.

 

Amokitty

Wolf of Marharz. When?????? *looks hopeful*

 

J_Harper

I have to write Burning of His Blood first.

 

Amokitty

Oh??????? Do tell! Please?

 

J_Harper

It'll be the first post-Deathless piece. Won't be what kicks off the round robin, but should be interesting. Piotr dealing with his feeling for Kitty. A short character piece.

 

J_Harper

I meant to start it by now, but I've been lazy. Maybe tomorrow, I'm not gaming.

 

Amokitty

*does happy dance*

 

MadR

Yaaay!

 

melodyrider

That's awesome news Jeremy!

 

Amokitty

You're a good man, Jeremy!!! *wipes tear*

 

J_Harper

You make me blush.

 

xakko

glad to hear that, Jeremy

 

Amokitty

:D

 

xakko

of course, we know that oldprydefan has gone back to work on Paper Flowers too

 

J_Harper

Yesh.

 

Kirayoshi joined.

 

 

J_Harper

I honestly thought she was burned out.

 

Kirayoshi

hey all!

 

J_Harper

Hey K.

 

MadR

Hi Kiray

 

Kirayoshi

Sorry I'

 

Kirayoshi

I'm late

 

xakko

hi K!

 

Kirayoshi

Whassup?

 

Amokitty

K!!!! You sly dog! Teasing us with Bloddlines: Family Reunion snippets!

 

MadR

Loved the Family Reunion snippet

 

Kirayoshi

Thought you'd enjoy.

 

melodyrider

Hello Kirayoshi!

 

Amokitty

I did! *swoons*

 

Kirayoshi

This week I'm working on the big Kitty/Illyana sequence

 

melodyrider

Yes, when will you have more?!

 

J_Harper

They're actually being civil to one another.

 

Kirayoshi

Well, Peter didn't walk from Salem to England without stopping in this one, so he's in a better frame of mind.

 

xakko

heh

 

Kirayoshi

Plus he's gettin' some! ::biggrin

 

melodyrider

HA! :)

 

Amokitty

And that's how it should've happened in the first place, jeremy. Which reminds me of the rumors going on at ComixFan.... Have any of you heard about the possibility of Ellis coming on after Whedon?

 

J_Harper

That tends to mellow men. We're shallow that way.

 

xakko

so why is Wisdom being civil?

 

Kirayoshi

More like resigned.

 

J_Harper

Bah. I'll believe it when I see it.

 

xakko

GAHGAHGAHGAH!

 

Kirayoshi

He blew it and he knows it.

 

J_Harper

Lia thinks that Vaughn is being groomed for Astonishing. At least that's her hope.

 

Amokitty

yeah, I'm ready to tear my hair out thinking about that one.

 

Kirayoshi

Plus he has no desire to flatten his fist on Peter's Abs of Steel!

 

MadR

Ellis's admitted that he screwed up characterization-wise. That's one point in his favor.

 

xakko

i don't trust BKV based on his Runaways/Astonishing one shot

 

Kirayoshi

I know Vaughn's doing a Faith arc for Joss' new Buffy comic book.

 

Amokitty

But Ellis never really fixed it, did he?

 

MadR

Brian K Vaughan though

 

MadR

at least I know the man can write angst.

 

melodyrider

brb

 

xakko

he put in the "hysterical slaps" comment, but other than that, no

 

Kirayoshi

Believe it or don't I'm actually looking forward to a Spider-Man oneshot that's supposed to come out this summer.

 

J_Harper

Eh, I think he'd put a lot more thought into a series than a 11 page one shot done quickly.

 

Kirayoshi

A Spider-Man/Red Sonja crossover.

 

Amokitty

He didn't write Kitty well in Ultimate I thought. With Peter, Vaughn did nothing, basically.

 

J_Harper

LOL!

 

Kirayoshi

You hear about that one, J?

 

MadR

Spider-man Red Sonja? Now there's a crossover....

 

J_Harper

Because there's nothing there in Ultimate Peter. He's gay and... that's it.

 

xakko

how would you feel about Greg Rucka (throwing a name at random) taking over?

 

Kirayoshi

From what i read, it's based loosely on an old Spidey/RJ meeting in the old Marvel Team-Up.

 

J_Harper

Yeah. Howard lists were all abuzz about it. Well, maybe not abuzz. But a few people are dropping the book.

 

Amokitty

Yeah, I guess it's because Ultimate is so boring there's nothing to be written.

 

Kirayoshi

The spirit of Kulan Gath took over a human host in present-day New York, and sent demons to fight Spider-Man.

 

Amokitty

Ultimate PETER, that is.

 

J_Harper

Most of the hard core Howard-ites don't follow Red Sonja anyhow.

 

Kirayoshi

Meanwhile RJ appears, having taken posession of MJ Watson.

 

Amokitty

Rucka did great with them in X-Men Unlimited. He could work.

 

Kirayoshi

The old issue was a classic Claremont/Byrne issue from before their run on X-Men.

 

MadR

brb

 

J_Harper

I probably won't bother. Red Sonja doesn't appeal to me very much. And she doesn't have the advantage of being tied in with the Hyborian Age anymore.

 

J_Harper

I read Conan still, but never bothered with the new Sonja.

 

Amokitty

What does everyone think of the Illyana situation in New X-Men?

 

Kirayoshi

Not certain.

 

Kirayoshi

Gimme a few issues, I'll have an opinion.

 

Amokitty

I'm scared, quite frankly.

 

darkstorm5000

I'm keeping an open mind

 

Kirayoshi

Oh, OT, did I miss all the Tony Stark bashing in this chat?

 

J_Harper

Well, I did wonder if Cassidy would be drawing a picture of Stark pissing on Cap's grave.

 

Amokitty

Any story of Illyana returning without K&P involved, is just silly to me.

 

J_Harper

Like K&P wouldn't drop everything and go check this out.

 

Amokitty

We bashed a little K, not much though. YET! heh, heh.

 

xakko

that Kyle is a Colossus fan perplexes me

 

MadR

I bet all of Tony Starks involvment in Civil War will be rettconed for the movie.

 

darkstorm5000

Is it definite they won't be appearing, seeing as K&P made brief cameos in the last NXM issue?

 

J_Harper

Who knows? Its just appalling that Marvel and Millar flat out stated that Stark and his faction were RIGHT and that justifies all the shit they pulled.

 

Kirayoshi

I could see the last page or so of Joss's run on AXM: the team heads back home and Illyana greets Peter and Kitty at the door.

 

Amokitty

Plus, how are we supposed to believe that the X-kids are supposed to be the ones to potentially hand Belasco's ass to him, when the first team of X-men failed? don't understand that at all.

 

xakko

because C & C's superpowered X-23 can beat anything

 

Amokitty

Wouldn't that be nice? Never happen though. Joe Q is out to get us! ;)

 

Amokitty

I know, I know. Her and Hellion are unbeatable. I get it alreafy.

 

Amokitty

Already, I meant.

 

J_Harper

Plus lets not forget the stupidity of those mass murderers now called Thunderbolts can cause a whole bunch of property damage and no innocents get even scratched, yet in the final fight the anti-reg side, which has very few heavyhitters, end up killing a whole bunch of civilians?

 

xakko

the two least interesting characters are driving their run

 

J_Harper

Double standard much, Marvel?

 

xakko

the weird thing is that i thought Millar was leftwing

 

Kirayoshi

Something tells me that the pro-side is being set up for a much bigger fall within a year.

 

Amokitty

It'll be interesting to see where Ellis takes the T-Bolts.

 

J_Harper

Hulk kickes Tony ass in World War Hulk.

 

Kirayoshi

And by the time the smoke clears, DoFP will no longer be a hypothetical exercize.,

 

Amokitty

brb.

 

MadR

Maybe they're setting up to do another big Event Specktacki-tacki-ular....Days Of Future Past 2009

 

Kirayoshi

Between the new T-Bolts, Hulk, the Initiative and Namor, no one's gonna trust anyone with powers, pro- or anti-.

 

J_Harper

Nah, Millar ain't leftwing. He's an idiot. But I all ready beat that horse.

 

J_Harper

Brubaker said, and I don't think he was joking, that Millar just hates America.

 

Kirayoshi

I tend to be "radical middle" although in today's political climate I guess that makes me far left.

 

xakko

pretty much, K

 

xakko

was it Brubaker who said that Millar was a commie who hated america?

 

Kirayoshi

Dumbest moment in CW, IIRC, was Sally Floyd chewing out Captain America for not having a MySpace page.

 

xakko

i'm so glad i skipped it

 

Kirayoshi

Geez, what are we doing here, trying to out-crazybitch Ann Coulter?

 

MadR

Yep, not missing anything by skipping Civil War

 

J_Harper

And don't forget, Millar has decided that Cap. is 'out of touch' with America because he doesn't know anything about MySpace or American Idol! Please... Cap leads gods into battle and have faced down things like Kang and Thanos. You think some silly bitch would leave him flatfooted?

 

Amokitty

Is it possible to do that with Ann Coulter? Nobody tops her. Nobody. She's sick.

 

J_Harper

Nah, Brubaker didn't say anything about Millar being a commie - just that he hates America.

 

MadR

brb

 

J_Harper

It was from an interview conducted by CBR.

 

J_Harper

Plus, as everyone has pointed out, a reporter from the Village Voice would most likely be on anti-Reg side of things.

 

Kirayoshi

Anyone see this new Robin Hood on BBC America?

 

Amokitty

It sucks (for me) that Civil War won't end anytime soon, thanks to Fallen Son. It just goes on, and on....

 

MadR

Kirayoshi: I've seen Robin Hood, didn't like it

 

J_Harper

It sold. It sold well. I honestly don't blame Marvel for trying to capitalize on it.

 

Amokitty

Haven't seen it yet.

 

xakko

didn't see it, sorry

 

xakko

well, they publicized it enough. hell, got on Colbert at least three times about it

 

Kirayoshi

This one's a little more animated than Kevin Costner, at least.

 

MadR

First episode, the escape? OMG swords don't work that way!

 

J_Harper

I'm an arrogant fucker - I think I could have done a better job with an event.

 

Kirayoshi

I think Rob Leifeld could have done better with that event!

 

MadR

Plus the Sheriff strangling the canary was over the top.

 

Amokitty

LOL. I heart you, Jeremy. I really do. Ha, ha!

 

melodyrider

back. I don't doubt it, Jeremy. We should have some kind of 'fic event.' that'd be fun

 

xakko

the EVENT-mentality will really hurt comics in a year or two

 

J_Harper

Oh hell, I know I have some talent. I just need to start exercising it in practical ways.

 

Kirayoshi

It's like the 90s all over again!

 

xakko

y'know, right before Marvel went BANKRUPT?

 

Kirayoshi

And the comic book market dropped when the investors left!

 

J_Harper

Well, the fact that they were owned by a corperate cutthroat that was looting the place didn't help matters back then...

 

Amokitty

I agree, Xak. At some point people will realize that they're being manipulated with the mantra of "You must buy all the event books and all of their tie-ins!!!! You must go broke!!!"

 

J_Harper

That didn't help either.

 

MadR

TV; watching Dresden Files, Blood Ties, Andy Barker PI. Looking forward to Drive.

 

xakko

the saturn commercial with Cake's version of "Mahna Mahna" keeps playing at me

 

Kirayoshi

Cake?

 

melodyrider

Short Skirt/Long Jacket

 

Kirayoshi

Same band that did that wonky version of "I Will Survive?"

 

melodyrider

Among other fun songs

 

Kirayoshi

I heard the song, didn't know it was Cake.

 

J_Harper

Anyone see the Red Bull commercial with the superhero in it? Started a big debate on RPG.Net - someone said that it reminded them too much of poor Kitty Genovese.

 

melodyrider

Arco Arena's one of my personal favorites, though

 

J_Harper

BRB.

 

xakko

yeah... it's off an album called "For the Kids"

 

Kirayoshi

I heard about that one.

 

xakko

at least, it sounds exactly the same.

 

Kirayoshi

It was on Smallville, so I missed it.

 

xakko

(the album is cool, has Sarah McLachlan doing "Rainbow Connection" and BNL doing "La La La La Lemon"

 

MadR

I usually tune out commercials to read or write so I missed all of these.

 

Kirayoshi

I found a killer version of "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band" by Polyphonic Spree on YouTube the other day.

 

Amokitty

I haven't even watched a lot of tv lately. I did see 300 yesterday though.... And I'll see Premonition tomorrow.

 

Kirayoshi

Good, bad or indifferent?

 

Kirayoshi

Favorite line from a trailer this year: "Then we'

 

Kirayoshi

Then we'll fight in the shade."

 

Amokitty

Mostly good. A bit of a political bent, but not overkill. The acting was solid. The testosterone was a bit much, however! LOL.

 

Amokitty

Lots of dismemberment, wasn't there?

 

melodyrider

I think I saw a documentery yesterday that mentioned that line is taken from historical record

 

Amokitty

Why did they call it the Battle of Hell's Gate, rather than Thermopylae?

 

MadR

So Frank Miller managed to stop typing whores whores whores whores long enough to write a decent script? ob/Shortpacked

 

Amokitty

LMAO!!!!!

 

Kirayoshi

Thermopylae means "Hell's Gate" or "Hot Gates", so that actually pans out.

 

xakko

heh... the sad thing is i learned of the battle from reading X-men

 

Kirayoshi

Fall of the Mutants, right?

 

xakko

yup

 

Amokitty

The main female character kicked ass, becase as a Spartan woman she gave birth to a REAL man! Hee!

 

xakko

which is also why i still think Neal Conan needs to be in every X-men movie

 

Amokitty

Well that certainly makes sense! Thanks, K!

 

Kirayoshi

Spartan women were tougher than most non-Spartan men at that period, IIRC.

 

MadR

Who says fandom isn't educational?

 

Kirayoshi

Go read Larry Gonick's "Cartoon History of the Universe" books.

 

Amokitty

Well, I know it wasn't too terribly factual, but the movie as a fictional piece was interesting.

 

Kirayoshi

Good general overview of world history in comic book form.

 

xakko

i read that in college, about the same time as i read "Watchmen" for the first time

 

melodyrider

I imagine there are quite a few people who know their nations because of "Yakoo's World"

 

melodyrider

Yakko. Sorry

 

Kirayoshi

Hey, I remember basic math and can recite the preamble of the US Constitution thanks to "Schoolhouse Rock"!

 

xakko

having met the guy who pointed out all of the errors in that song... um, ok, i'm a geek

 

J_Harper

I haven't seen 300 yet. I'd like to.

 

xakko

I can name all the capitals and presidents thanks to Animaniacs

 

Kirayoshi

Oh I loved the President's song!

 

Amokitty

oh and K! I was wondering, did you think the traitor in 300 was a dead ringer for Sloth in Goonies? I swear I saw a resemblance! heh.

 

J_Harper

I also want to see TMNT and The Last Mimzy. God, I never thought there would be a movie based on the work of Hank Kuttner and CL Moore.

 

MadR

Went to an Egyptian exhibit at a museum once and could only pronounce place-names that had been on Stargate.

 

MadR

Oh god, the Last Mimzy!

 

Kirayoshi

"Kennedy gave us Camelot, and Lyndon Johnson took his spot, Richard Nixon, he got caught, and Gerald Ford fell down a lot!"

 

xakko

i nearly went to a screening of "The Please Please Pleese Get a Life Foundation", the Animaniacs "tribute" to their internet fans.

 

MadR

After what happened with Bridge To Teribithia....

 

Amokitty

Unpack your Adjectives..... my favorite!

 

xakko

they screened it for a collection of those very fans

 

J_Harper

Have you read any Kuttner, Rose?

 

xakko

the album had "John Kennedy he got shot so Lyndon Johnson takes his spot"

 

Kirayoshi

The cartoon was tamed down, methinks.

 

MadR

A long time ago. Mimsy Were The Borogroves sticks because it was so damn creepy

 

MadR

Either they Disneyfied the ending, or there are going to be a lot of upset parents.

 

Kirayoshi

May I assume that the movie bears little more than a passing resemblance to the original story?

 

J_Harper

I heard they toned it down a bit. I haven't read that story, but from what I understand Kuttner can go from whimsical to grim in a very short amount of time.

 

Kirayoshi

I heard that Terebithia was actually closer to the book than most movie adaptations.

 

xakko

also, they mistakenly identified Jefferson as writing the Constitution, and that Warren Harding "he does fine"

 

Kirayoshi

Harding's line was more for the rhyme scheme.

 

MadR

Kids find educational toys from the future and evolve mentally past they point their parents can comphrend them

 

xakko

oh, and that the one in charge, plain to see was "Clinton, first name Hillary". all were changed for the cartoon

 

J_Harper

In fact, I know it personally - I read a story called Wet Magic by Kuttner. Starts out as a rather whimsical story of Arthurian magic returning during World War II. Towards the end it got very serious and grim.

 

Amokitty

Having never read the Terabithia book, but seen the movie, it was good. Sad as hell, but decent.

 

Kirayoshi

Some local critics called it Pan's Labyrinth Lite.

 

xakko

they changed it in the cartoon to "it's Warren Harding next in line, then Calvin Coolidge he does fine" - at least he wasn't as scandal ridden

 

MadR

The thing with the Terabithia trailers made it look like light fantasy, like Harry Potter and a lot of people were suckerpunched by the death.

 

J_Harper

I don't think that's fair. Pan's Labyrinth was an incredible film.

 

J_Harper

Ah well.

 

melodyrider

But there's death in Harry Potter, too

 

Kirayoshi

LALALALA Haven't seen it yet LALALALALA please don't spoil LALALALALA

 

Amokitty

I certainly was, Rose! My nephew wasn't happy about that, either1

 

J_Harper

Don't worry I won't.

 

J_Harper

I'll just repeat that it was incredible and leave it at that.

 

xakko

Rosebud is the name of his SLED!!!!!

 

Amokitty

LOL.

 

Kirayoshi

I had a teacher once accidently spoil the ending of "Dead Poet's Society" before I could see it.

 

Kirayoshi

And they all did it on the Orient Express

 

xakko

oh gah. i would've skipped the movie had i known the ending.

 

MadR

If I spoiled anything, I am so sorry....

 

MadR

I'm so used to being last to see movies.

 

Kirayoshi

I saw a trailer for Stardust recently.

 

J_Harper

Hey K. are you going to use that line of mine in Family Reunions, the one I have Piotr saying to Pete?

 

xakko

i'm looking forward to that, K

 

Amokitty

Didn't you mention that you dislike the movie going experience, Rose?

 

Kirayoshi

"But which one of is she waiting for?"

 

MadR

yup. Rather wait to rent the dvd

 

Kirayoshi

I enjoy going to movies myself.

 

xakko

i like going, but Deb's not so keen anymore.

 

Kirayoshi

Something about actually going to a theater makes it more of an occasion.

 

MadR

and of late, haven't even bothered to rent, I've been going through the librarys massive collection

 

Amokitty

Yeah, I'm with K. I love the big screen and loud noise.

 

Kirayoshi

I have Netflix.

 

Amokitty

me too!

 

Kirayoshi

Tried watching NightWatch, but the disc was scratched.

 

MadR

Last movie I saw in a theater was My Cousin Vinny

 

Kirayoshi

May request another copy.

 

xakko

we still have "Robotech: Shadow Chronicles" we bought last week that we haven't watched

 

melodyrider

I love the group environment of the movies. If the audience is loving the movie, I will too

 

Kirayoshi

I saw "Curse of the Golden Flower" last month.

 

J_Harper

No, that ain't mine. Mine was like this -Piotr mentioning he regretted his assault on Pete, and Pete saying something very snarky about that.. Piotr takes a breath, then says - "Wisdom, I commited a violent vicious act against you, and for that I owe you much. But I do not owe you EVERYTHING. Do not push your luck.

 

xakko

i haven't been to a theatre since.. gah... i don't remember

 

Amokitty

I think some movies SHOULD be seen on a big screen, but that's just me.

 

Kirayoshi

Had a free pass and the expiration date was in a week or so.

 

J_Harper

Pete - Or what, you armor up and put me in the emergency war again?

 

Amokitty

has anyone read the latest Wisdom?

 

J_Harper

Piotr - Do you really think I need to armor up to beat the hell out of you?

 

Kirayoshi

Oh, that one.

 

MadR

Means I can make my own movie marathons.

 

Kirayoshi

I'll have to remember that.

 

J_Harper

Feel free. You mentioned you wanted to use it.

 

MadR

Nope, not reading Wisdom.

 

Amokitty

Remember when we said that Pete might be selfish in bed? Well it looks like THAT got tossed out the window. Wonder if Cornell reads these transcripts? LOL!

 

J_Harper

A few chats ago.

 

J_Harper

Oh?

 

xakko

i haven't. Sword is Drawn is very hyped about it, so i'm guessing it would piss me off

 

Amokitty

It's almost like the man set out to prove us wrong!

 

Amokitty

Wisdom got on his knees and made Maureen Raven a very happy woman.

 

darkstorm5000

I thumbed through a few pages of the first issue, that's about it

 

J_Harper

LOL! All right, so he's a better man than I thought.

 

Amokitty

Sword is Drawn pisses me off constantly.

 

xakko

i guess he doesn't know Wisdom as well as his fans think he does then. I'm fairly sure Warren Ellis is a selfish lover.

 

Kirayoshi

Hmm. Maybe being dumped by Kitty taught him a lesson in how to treat a woman.

 

MadR

At least we know Piotr made Kitty go all to pieces for the very first time.

 

xakko

i think i made that comment on one of the boards (cbr)... and yes, i believe he does read them

 

xakko

it was totally his fault.

 

Kirayoshi

I like to think so, yes

 

Kirayoshi

Oh, c'mon, you knew that was coming!

 

J_Harper

Snort.

 

Amokitty

All Hail Peter the Great!!!

 

xakko

i counted on it

 

Amokitty

great in bed that is..... ;)

 

MadR

I really want to see, in canon or fic, Kitty making a Pro/Con list of reasons to stay involved with Piotr....Pro: orgasm that dropped me two floors.

 

xakko

wouldn't it be hilarious if somehow Ellis was put on Astonishing and CC wouldn't relinquish control of Wisdom?

 

J_Harper

LOL!

 

Kirayoshi

Anyone with IFC, go there now!~

 

Kirayoshi

Strictly Ballroom, one of the funniest movies in twenty years!

 

xakko

instead, i get a documentary on Vietnam on Fine Living

 

Amokitty

Wow, that would be the Karma train taking Ellis for a ride, wouldn't it?

 

xakko

for a second there i got confused... given the plans CC hinted at with the character Karma

 

Amokitty

Loved Strictly Ballroom! *hums Love is the Air....* :)

 

Kirayoshi

Strictly Ballroom for the record is an early Baz Lurhman directed piece.

 

xakko

so Cannonball is a fan?

 

J_Harper

I don't know if I mentioned it in a previous chat, but there was a thread on RPGNet talking about Peter, and that in all honesty Peter would be highly sought after by various X-Women. Hell, various women period.

 

Kirayoshi

Less pretentious than Moulan Rouge or R&J. And a lot more fun.

 

MadR

They did a Strictly Ballroom parody on Hercules The Legendary Journeys, didn't they? Never seen the movie, added it to my library list

 

Amokitty

In real life, you'd have to beat the women off Peter with a stick, Jeremy!

 

xakko

i think his early naivete was a turnoff for some

 

xakko

Nereel and Fahe knew better, of course

 

Amokitty

Yeah, because he's not "suave" like Gambit? Brother.

 

Kirayoshi

I still wanna hear Kitty and Peter compare past romances.

 

Kirayoshi

Kinda like that one ep of Friends.

 

MadR

With the Essential Colossus thing I'm working on his obvious crush on Storm and how she lets him down easy. Little Brother.

 

J_Harper

Heh. Well, one comment someone made - Storm, Betsy and Emma would be scratching each others eyes to get a taste, and Northstar would be mooning around the mansion on his off days. ;)

 

Amokitty

Can't wait to read this. Will we see it soon?

 

MadR

As soon as I can finish writing, spellcheck, and post. Maybe next week or so...if I push myself.

 

Kirayoshi

I still want to see Peter's take on when he first met Kitty.

 

xakko

actually, and there's that Emma thing again, i don't see Emma that interested. she'd admire, but his personality would be a turnoff, i think

 

MadR

Been lazy and rereading Tanya Huff's Blood books when I could be writing.

 

Amokitty

This is true, Jeremy. The man is built like a god, and looks like one too. All the women would keep him from getting lonely or despondant for sure!

 

Kirayoshi

We got Kitty's POV at the time, what was Peters?

 

J_Harper

I think Emma would not be adverse to trying Peter out. ;)

 

MadR

I don't think Peter really notices Kitty at first....I know there's a line 'Why is she looking at me so strangely' after they escape from Emma's goons

 

Kirayoshi

Oh trusting, naive little maroon1

 

Amokitty

Didn't Emma say how good looking he was? Mentioning his chisled jaw?

 

Kirayoshi

!

 

Kirayoshi

Was that Emma or Cassandra?

 

J_Harper

It was Emma.

 

xakko

"if you like chiselled, unbelievably handsome men" or something like that

 

Amokitty

yeah, that's it!

 

Kirayoshi

A few months ago, I stumbled onto an odd pairing for a fanfic/

 

Kirayoshi

Kitty Pryde/Ron Stoppable.

 

xakko

lbut Emma just spent all that effort pulling Scott to the dark side, does she have the energy to corrupt Peter?

 

J_Harper

Lia will hopefully be with us shortly.

 

J_Harper

She just binged me.

 

Amokitty

Wonderful!!! :)

 

Kirayoshi

J, Lia, get a room!

 

J_Harper

Heh.

 

melodyrider

That would make it easy for Ron. He could still call her "KP"

 

xakko

she binged you? are you a narcotic?

 

Amokitty

So Rose is getting her next chapter out soon, Xak just posted one.... K, when is your next chap coming out? Mel when is yours??

 

Kirayoshi

I'm working on it, Amo.

 

Amokitty

*Cracks UP!*

 

J_Harper

Heh. No, she IMed me.

 

melodyrider

Mine should be up as soon as FF.net let's me log in

 

Kirayoshi

And don't forget, we may even have signs of life from OPF's Paper Flowers!

 

Amokitty

You mentioned it was wonky.

 

MadR

Oh, and Kira: The Adventures Of Pete And Pete chapter title was brilliant.

 

Amokitty

Wasn't that cool of OPF to tide us over like that?

 

Lia joined.

 

 

Kirayoshi

That was just the title for the snippet.

 

melodyrider

Hi Lia!

 

MadR

Hiya Lia

 

Amokitty

Hi Lia! Great to see you!!!!

 

MadR

K: still brill.

 

Lia

Hey guys! How is everyone?

 

Kirayoshi

The working title for the chapter is "Dancing about Architecture"

 

Kirayoshi

Lia!

 

Amokitty

Better now that you're with us! :)

 

xakko

hi Lia!

 

J_Harper

Shweetie!

 

xakko

hey Shari, do you still have your questions for Lia from our last chat?

 

Amokitty

I do, and was just about to ask them!

 

Kirayoshi

Lia it's been a long, long time your still a sight, ya---!

 

Kirayoshi

Just seeing if anyone remembered Dio.

 

Amokitty

If Lia doesn't mind me asking a couple of questions about her work, that is....

 

Lia

Sorry I'm so late! I've been extra busy lately, but I missed all you guys.

 

xakko

y'know, i remember Tenacious D's song "Dio" more than Dio itself

 

Amokitty

We missed you too! :)

 

xakko

but since you missed the interview process, you have to participate now!

 

Amokitty

Lia, Jeremy mentioned that you were working on several projects. Care to tell us about any of them? Please???

 

Lia

I don't don't know if 'working' is the right term. More like 'starting and then never finishing'. I really need to get more disciplined about writing.

 

xakko

offers Lia his "stalker"... *giggle*

 

Kirayoshi

I hear that!

 

J_Harper

snort.

 

melodyrider

heh

 

MadR

There's this novel in 90 days thing I've been trying. Write four pages a day.

 

Amokitty

Do you plan to collaberate more with Jeremy, or are most of these stories authored by you alone?

 

Amokitty

Pardon my messed up spelling!

 

Lia

Probably alone, since were both busy and it's hard to get us on the same writing schedules. I have one Evo story in the works about Kitty and Peter having their first proper conversation, and one set after the astonishing team comes back from Breakworld, and another thats from Logan's pov thats just a short one shot about his and kitty's friendship.

 

xakko

oooh, and now i have to wait for these? darnit.

 

Amokitty

Well that ties directly into my next question! Do you have a favorite period of Kiotr? The young and in love period, or the adult one? Lord knows I love both!

 

Kirayoshi

weren't you and J talking about a possible sequel to Muir that would take a tangent from continuity?

 

Lia

Good memory, Kirayoshi. We talked a little, I think but nothing concrete. Correct me if I'm wrong, Jeremy(although you know that never happens);)

 

J_Harper

No, it never does. ;) I remember something about Kitty and Illyana arguing, Illyana having come to ask Kitty to help her kill Forge, and then Peter comes stumbling into the room, looks at the two, says "you two are the most beautiful things I have ever seen" then collapses.

 

Lia

I liked the period when they were younger best, mostly because there were no Ketes back then and they hadn't screwed up Peter's characterization yet.

 

Kirayoshi

I'd go with prior to having every thing dumped on him post-Australia.

 

Amokitty

I'm with you on that, Lia! No cheating or breakups or the like.

 

J_Harper

It was just a seed - I have no idea where we would have gone with it, since we don't really outline when we collaborate.

 

Amokitty

I'd like to ask a question of everyone now that you all are here!

 

xakko

42!

 

Kirayoshi

There was more of a maturity about him, but he hadn't become so world-weary.

 

J_Harper

Heh.

 

Kirayoshi

Two in front, two in back and one in the glove compartment!

 

melodyrider

Gah, I'm too sick to keep up with everyone's funny

 

Amokitty

What other characters/pairings would you like to write about? It can be books, movies, comics, or original.

 

xakko

gah, sorry to hear you're ill, MR

 

melodyrider

Harry/Cho

 

MadR

Ooh, too many.

 

Kirayoshi

Buffy/Willow.

 

Kirayoshi

Minority opinion, I know.

 

Lia

House/Cuddy

 

xakko

write about... hrmmm... i can't say, really.

 

Kirayoshi

I wouldn't inflict House on anybody!

 

melodyrider

Thanks, Xakko. Been fighting it for a couple weeks now. Yesterday it finally wore me down

 

J_Harper

I actually haveno other pairings in mind. Though I've actually been thinking about writing some John Carter fan fiction.

 

Amokitty

It's good of you to join us, Mel. Didn't know you were sick!

 

melodyrider

Thanks, Amo!

 

Lia

You don't like House, Kirayoshi!?

 

Kirayoshi

And of course Peter/MJ

 

Kirayoshi

That's Parker, not Rasputin!

 

xakko

i like other properties, but can't think of any that i would want to write abouit

 

Amokitty

Bronchitis is going around. Be careful, Mel....

 

Kirayoshi

One of these days I may actually get back to Goblin Wars.

 

melodyrider

I'm being good, and Amanda's keeping me in line, too :)

 

MadR

If the Viktor/hermione lj comm wasn't so dead lately, I'd be more tempted to try that one.

 

darkstorm5000

back

 

Amokitty

Is Amanda Mrs. Rider? LOL.

 

J_Harper

You wouldn't write about Cameron/Dr. Pretty Hair, sweetie? ;)

 

Kirayoshi

House, IMO, is a very cool character, but the way he's played he can only go for so long without either softening, and thus jumping the shark, or totally going nuts.

 

xakko

as i said at the beginning, i am torn between pursuing a Kurt/Rachel or a Kurt/Amanda or neither in Book of Magik

 

Kirayoshi

The way he is now, I wouldn't want to see any poor woman have to deal with him.

 

melodyrider

Lol Amo!

 

Amokitty

All the comms are dead, Rose. Not sure what's going on!

 

Kirayoshi

He's like Frank Burns, only with actual medical skill.

 

MadR

And with the end of stargate Sg-1 coming up I might be tempted into fixit fic.

 

xakko

Frank Burns eats worms!

 

Amokitty

I'm fuddy duddy traditional, I suppose. I like Kurt with Amanda. At the end of the day, I wonder if Rachel can completely dispel that Kurt used to be thought of as "Uncle Kurt".

 

Kirayoshi

They finally cancelling that show?

 

Kirayoshi

I had no idea!

 

Kirayoshi

What is Claudia Black gonna do now?

 

J_Harper

I think you're being unfair to House, K. No way he's like Frank Burns.

 

MadR

Yep. Ten last episodes of Stargate Sg-1

 

Amokitty

she's guest starring in Dresden Files tomorrow night!

 

J_Harper

Burns was a hypocrit. House, while unlikable, isn't quite like that.

 

melodyrider

Looks like it's time for me to sign off.

 

MadR

Claudia Black's on Dresden Files tomorrow...so at least Scifi is finding her work

 

Amokitty

Claudia, I mean.

 

Kirayoshi

Have I ever mentioned how much I love Farscape?

 

Amokitty

Me too, K!!!! Crichton rules!!!

 

melodyrider

I had a great time chatting with you guys. Talk to you again soon!

 

MadR

There's another pairing I'd write. Vala/Aris Boch.

 

Lia

Jeremy, you better be careful. You know better than to say anything bad about my House. ;)

 

J_Harper

Take care of yourself, Melodyrider.

 

MadR

Oh, gn'te Mel

 

Amokitty

.... Scorpius rules too.

 

MadR

Hope you feel better

 

xakko

g'nite MR

 

darkstorm5000

Have a good one Melody

 

Kirayoshi

Nite, Mel.

 

melodyrider

Will do. Night everybody!

 

melodyrider left.

 

 

Amokitty

Take care of yourself, Mel1

 

Amokitty

Darn.

 

J_Harper

Heh heh heh. I know, I know. I've become use to the fact that you love House more than I. ;) Ijust can't compete with Mr. Laurie.

 

Kirayoshi

"Fear accompanies the possibility of death. Calm shepherds it certainty."

 

Kirayoshi

"I love hanging with you man!"

 

Amokitty

I love Harvey!

 

Kirayoshi

I heard they wanted Hugh Laurie for the role of Perry White in Superman Returns.

 

Lia

Yeah, but he was too busy. Singer knows him from working on House

 

J_Harper

Really?

 

xakko

Harvey? Where? looks around for a 6 foot invisible rabbit

 

Amokitty

Frank Langella was a poor choice, I thought.

 

J_Harper

Dracula was Perry White? I didn't know that.

 

Lia

He was a better choice than Kate Bosworth as Lois

 

Amokitty

heh, heh. Farscape Harvey. :) Great, GREAT show.

 

Kirayoshi

I say wait until Smallville is done, and then just cast everyone from there in a Superman movie!

 

Kirayoshi

Except Lana. SHe must die and Kristen Kruek must never work in Hollywood again.

 

MadR

Y'know, I've never seen a decent Lois...Dana Delany in toon verse was okay....

 

Kirayoshi

I'll admit to liking Teri Hatcher, but she did get a little stupid in later seasons..

 

J_Harper

A feverent hope of one person on RPGNet was that Clark kisses Lana then sneezes while doing so, blowing her in half.

 

MadR

But Candice Bergen's sitcom, Murphy Brown...is closer to Lois Lane in my head than any portrayal of the actual character.

 

Lia

I like Erica Durance. It's a shame they always push her to the side on Smallville

 

xakko

Ian (venuscameback) hates Superman

 

Amokitty

I think Erica has great chemistry with Tom Welling.

 

Kirayoshi

Meanwhile would someone stop casting Sarah Michelle Gellar in horror movies?

 

J_Harper

Gellar is April O'Neil!

 

Amokitty

*laughs at K* Mark and I were just talking about that the other day!

 

Kirayoshi

Now if they'd have a kung-fu battle between Buffy and Ziyi Zhang, that would be worth seeing.

 

MadR

Did we really need another TMNT movie? Just because we have CGI instead of Ernie Reyes in a rubber suit?

 

Amokitty

I thought Jeanty drew a Gellaresque Buffy in the comic.

 

Kirayoshi

The first TMNT movie was actually fairly entertaining.

 

J_Harper

My friend Joe enjoyed it a lot. I trust his taste.

 

Kirayoshi

The sequels were pure dreck though

 

J_Harper

I'd be interested in seeing a Usagi Yojimbo movie.

 

Kirayoshi

I still want a Bone movie, dammit!

 

MadR

I liked the third, where the turtles go back to Feudal Japan. But I have no taste.

 

J_Harper

Is Gellar in another horror movie?

 

Kirayoshi

I think I saw a commercial for The Return on DVD.

 

Kirayoshi

that was her latest live-action role.

 

J_Harper

Ah.

 

Kirayoshi

Plus the new Buffy comic is out.

 

MadR

You watch Boreanez in early BtvS episodes and in Bones now and you can really see how much he's grown as an actor.

 

Kirayoshi

Haven't seen it yet. Is it worth my money?

 

Kirayoshi

Around the waist, you mean, Mad?

 

J_Harper

Ouch.

 

Amokitty

Oh Lia! I've been meaning to ask you.... who do you think won't return from Breakworld? I've gotten everybody else's theories, and I'd like to hear yours!

 

MadR

Nope.

 

Kirayoshi

I'm thinking either Hisako or Peter and Kitty.

 

MadR

Joss is going to pull a fast one...it'll be someone we don't expect.

 

Lia

Emma getting left behind would make my dreams come true. Well partially. I'd rather see her killed painfully. But I think it'll be Scott, because that would be the only big shakeup, and most of his family is in space anyways.

 

Kirayoshi

Latest rumor is that Rachel will be staying in space with that guy she met in the current arc.

 

Kirayoshi

So much for the Kurt-Rachel pairing.

 

Lia

Peter and Kitty seem too obvious, which is why I'm thinking (and hoping!) it won't be them. Joss doesn't like to do what people expect.

 

Amokitty

it seems like everybody is thinking Hisako, Peter, or Kitty though, K. and for that reason alone, I want it to be Beast. Not that I hate, Hank. I just want everybody to be wrong!

 

Kirayoshi

I can see Kitty and Peter returning, and Kitty's pregnancy becoming a big sub-plot in the Endangered Species arc planned for later this year.

 

Amokitty

I hope you're right, Lia.

 

Lia

I'm hoping if Scott stays it'll be a way for him to meet up with the Phoenix again.

 

MadR

Joss does have patterns in his writing...the fact that Kitty and Peter took a time-out gives me hope they'll both survive, at least.

 

Lia

Plus, it leaves the question of who'll be team leader now that Scott, Storm, Jean, and the Professor are gone.

 

Kirayoshi

Or even if there will be a team.

 

J_Harper

Kitty's way overdue for it.

 

J_Harper

Being a leader.

 

xakko

i like the X-Men #200 cover theory

 

MadR

Kira: Mutant Children Of Man type thing?

 

Amokitty

Thing is, in Giant Size Astonishing there's supposed to be a gathering of almost every hero in the MU. What would bring them together do you suppose? I thought a funeral or a wedding.

 

Kirayoshi

If this is indeed the final generation of mutants, is there a reason for the X-Men to continue?

 

Amokitty

Good point, K.

 

Kirayoshi

From what I understand, Wanda's whammy at the end of HOM made mutant births impossible.

 

Lia

They said Endangered Species thing takes place before the Astonishing arc

 

xakko

darnit

 

Kirayoshi

Hopefully this will be taken care of with Endangered Species.

 

J_Harper

You know, the way everything is out of synch with Marvel, I'm wondering if they may do their own 1 year later...

 

Lia

I think it was the only place they could fit it in, which makes me think it's because one of the characters won't be there anymore, so it makes me think it won't be Hisako.

 

Kirayoshi

Personally I like the idea that they're exploring with Rogue's team, having them relocate away from the mansino.

 

Kirayoshi

All the teams should vacate the mansion and live in downtown New York.

 

Amokitty

if Kitty, Peter, or Hisako die, it won't bring everyone together. What makes this happen is confounding me something terrible.

 

Kirayoshi

Seriously, I suspect that more people fear mutants, not because they're mutants, but because they all live in an armed compound in upstate New York, with more firepower than David Koresh's wet dreams!

 

Lia

The students should vacate the mansion! How many have to die before they figure out Xavier's is unsafe?

 

Lia

Hee hee! Good point!

 

Amokitty

K, you're too funny!

 

Kirayoshi

I'm serious, have them live among humans.

 

Amokitty

It will remain unsafe as long as Kyle and Yost write an X-men book I fear.

 

J_Harper

Oh, Amo. I wanted to talk a little about the Seth pages - was it just me, or was Kitty being a bit of a brat?

 

Kirayoshi

Make them deal with mutants on a daily basis and realize that they're real people too.

 

Kirayoshi

"We're Here, We're Freaks, Get Used to It!"

 

Kirayoshi

It wasn't you, Kitty was being a bit of a brat.

 

MadR

Not that that's worked completely with RL minorities....

 

Kirayoshi

IIRC, Claremont wanted to make Kitty the team's new loose cannon during that arc.

 

xakko

she has had brattish tendencies for much of her career

 

Kirayoshi

It could work better than the old status quo which lead to CW and the SHRA!

 

Amokitty

That was Kitty's bone claw and brat phase, Jeremy. It's true! She was a little bitch. No other way to put it. Sobered up pretty quick though once Lobdell killed Peter though!

 

J_Harper

Okay. And there was not much to Seth, was there?

 

Kirayoshi

Plus I think everything CC tried to do at that time was derailed by the X-Men movie, and Joe Q's efforts to shoehorn the book into that mold.

 

MadR

Maybe that would be a good reversal of Civil War...a string of innocent low-power mutant abuses/murders that get people outraged......

 

Kirayoshi

Which may explain Mel's subplot idea where that Kitty wasn't the real Kitty, or an AU version or something.

 

J_Harper

I'm thinking that Tugarin is going to play him like a violin, once/if I get to that point.

 

Amokitty

Nope! Seth was a plot device and nothing more. That Neo heritage thing he mentioned caused a disturbance in the Kitty-Force at ComixFan recently! ;)

 

Kirayoshi

Have you started on that writer's guide for the round-robin, J?

 

MadR

brb

 

J_Harper

Byrne once mentioned something about Claremont not being able to write about normal women, and that he challenged him to write Kitty as a normal young girl.

 

Amokitty

Oh now I'm intrigued, Jeremy! Tugarin and Seth you mean???

 

J_Harper

Yes. Tugarin needs a cat to get a chestnut out of the fire without being burned.

 

Amokitty

*squeees like a silly fangirl...* :D

 

Kirayoshi

I know I'm intrigued.

 

J_Harper

Without Tugarin being burned, that is. Tugarin wouldn't give a damn about the cat.

 

J_Harper

Tugarin's attitude towards mutants and humans is something similar to the Eternals.

 

Kirayoshi

In that he's better than the lot of them?

 

J_Harper

I mean the Eternals attitude towards Civil War.

 

J_Harper

Pretty much. Tugarin is descended from dragons, which were civilized and powerful when men's ancestors were still chipmunks scurrying away from dinosaurs.

 

J_Harper

He's something of a racist.

 

Amokitty

Well you DID say that Koschei was small potatoes compared to Tugarin....

 

J_Harper

No, Koschei is more powerful than Tugarin. But I think you'll end up hating Tugarin because he's far more hands on than Koschei ever was.

 

J_Harper

Hating him more than Koschei, I mean.

 

Amokitty

The anticipation is gonna kill me. any idea of when you'll put us out of our misery?

 

Kirayoshi

I dunno. trying to brain-wammy Kitty like that was pretty dispicible.

 

J_Harper

:) Well, I leave it for you to decide when I get to writing about Tugarin.

 

J_Harper

I honestly don't know. Hopefully Burning of His Blood will get me to start things again.

 

J_Harper

I need to start writing more anyhow. I need to get disciplined myself.

 

J_Harper

Though I keep saying it but never do it. :/

 

Kirayoshi

Same here.

 

Lia

Me too.

 

Amokitty

It's hard to wait, but good things are always worth it! I'll wait forever if need be. (but hopefully I won't have to wait that long to read Knight and the Maiden. ;) )

 

xakko

it's scary when i'm one of the most prolific of this group

 

J_Harper

You've been very good about writing regularly, Xak.

 

Amokitty

Xak, what about that cliffhanger with Peter in Limbo?

 

xakko

i just don't have the breadth of your ideas

 

xakko

yeah, um, i have a couple options to work with - that his reflexes are better in armored form, or the magic resistance of his armor

 

Amokitty

Well I hope it saves him fron getting skewered!

 

xakko

or, well, that Belasco would just want to toy with him, but that contradicts my earlier statement that he learned that lesson

 

J_Harper

Well, I did have Koschei call Belasco a bungler. ;)

 

Amokitty

If Peter is already in this much trouble, I shudder for Kitty and the others!

 

Kirayoshi

Oh brother!

 

xakko

well, i've split them up, and they'll all have to struggle to survive.

 

Amokitty

Rose, is Essential Colossus going to feature Peter writing letters home, and mention more of his family life? Or is it gonna be all about the X-Men life now?

 

Amokitty

Xak, sounds like it will harken back to the Magik limited series then. You mentioned the desert...

 

xakko

i'm trying to tie in several limbo related stories.

 

xakko

i keep forgetting about the Prometheum Exchange tho'

 

Amokitty

Not Black Sun I hope! ;)

 

Kirayoshi

Only good thing about that: I could easily see Doom trying to call Kitty's marker.

 

xakko

if i can retcon that, i will

 

Amokitty

*sigh* and that wasn't much better, was it? I mean Dr. Doom and Soul Sword?? Oh the stupid.

 

J_Harper

Folks, I hate to do this, but I'm pretty faded right now. I'm going to head out.

 

xakko

g'nite jeremy... it is kinda late

 

Kirayoshi

I'm getting there myself.

 

Kirayoshi

I should be taking off.

 

Kirayoshi

Later all.

 

Amokitty

Jeremy thank you for letting know about your new project!!! thank you so much for coming!! :)

 

J_Harper

Yeah. 2 Am here. I'm going to go see how much snow we've gotten so far and then go to bed.

 

Lia

Night guys! Sleep well.:)

 

xakko

looking forward to the new stuff, JH

 

J_Harper

NP, Amo.

 

Kirayoshi

Peace out!

 

Amokitty

K, it was wonderful of you to come!

 

Amokitty

Night!

 

Kirayoshi

Glad to.

 

J_Harper

Good night everyone. Take care K.

 

darkstorm5000

Have a good night Jeremy and Kirayoshi

 

J_Harper

Good night, sweetie. :)

 

Kirayoshi

And you, J.

 

Kirayoshi left.

 

 

xakko

g'nite K too!

 

Lia

Night, honey.:)

 

xakko

gah, missed he was leaving as well

 

Amokitty

*waves!*

 

J_Harper

:)

 

J_Harper

Bye!

 

J_Harper left.

 

 

Amokitty

I wonder if Rose is still with us? she never answered my question.... hmmm....

 

Amokitty

Lia, I was wondering. What is your favorite story of Jeremy's? And what is your favorite with your own work?

 

Amokitty

DS, I'd like to know the same from you.

 

Amokitty

DS, regarding your own work, I mean.

 

xakko

i think rose said "brb" a little bit ago

 

Amokitty

Oh! I missed that! Whoops. Things go fast here, don't they?

 

xakko

they can, yes

 

Lia

Hmmm...hard to say. I love all of Jeremy's work, and Deathless is the most complex. But I really have to go with Muir, just because us writing that story together was the reason we got to know each other.

 

Amokitty

I love Muir for the same reason I love Kit's Laughing. It gets deep inside Kitty and Peter's heads! I always want to know what they're thinking!

 

darkstorm5000

From Jeremy's, outside of Deathless, I'd have to say The Best Revenge. From mine, I'd have to say A Force Unleashed, just because of the whole scope of all of the characters that I got to include in it

 

Amokitty

With a Force Unleashed.... well it had everybody (even Lockheed!).

 

Lia

I've never read a bad Kiotr story by any of the people who chat here. I wish I could say the same about the rest of the people on ff.net!

 

Lia

I can't stand the people who can't even spell Colossus right, even when he's the main character.

 

Amokitty

I haven't even been to FF.net lately.... it's definitely lacking.

 

darkstorm5000

I used to try to scan ff.net regularly, but I haven't really done so in awhile

 

Amokitty

ha! Or just as bad - they can't spell PIOTR right! If I had a dime for every time someone said "Poitr".... I swear....

 

MadR

bak. stupid dogs. stupider raccoon.

 

Lia

I guess it's better than Rouge!

 

xakko

i look in from time to time. but mostly i just wait until i see notification one of your stories come up (by that i mean the chatters here)

 

MadR

Oh darn, missed Jeremy and Kirayoshi....

 

Lia

You have dogs, Rose?

 

MadR

Two bichons

 

Amokitty

what are your dogs names, Rose? if you don't mind me asking? they sound like they're fun1

 

Lia

Oh, those are so cute! I love dogs.:)

 

MadR

Frannie and Fraser. Brother and sister, same litter. Mom was a Due South fan

 

Amokitty

I love them too! Mine came back from the groomers just before chat time! heh.

 

xakko

Due South was cool

 

xakko

we have both soundtracks

 

Lia

What kind do you have?

 

Amokitty

me?

 

Lia

Yeah.. Sorry, shoud have specified.

 

Amokitty

Or am i "barking" up the wrong tree? har har...

 

Amokitty

Yeah I stink!

 

Amokitty

:D

 

Lia

You get points for effort!

 

Amokitty

Molly is a year old Lab/Boder Collie mix with a sad beginning, but lives in style these days!

 

xakko

it's too late for puns

 

Amokitty

*laughs*

 

MadR

Stupid newbie question: can I scroll back without messing up the chat for everyone, or would that only be my screen?

 

xakko

or too early. i forget

 

Amokitty

Border Collie, I meant to say!

 

xakko

your screen only, rose

 

xakko

or i'd be messing you all up all the time

 

Lia

Molly must be a smart dog. Those are really intelligant breeds.

 

Amokitty

I'll bring up the transcript tomorrow! promise!

 

MadR

I think aol's chatrooms were different.

 

Amokitty

Molly has her bright as well as her stupid moments.... but she's the most loving dog you'll ever meet. That dog just plain loves everybody!

 

MadR

EC: Will have Piotr writing home some, and some of his childhood in narration asides/flashbacks.

 

xakko

i don't remember ever using the AOL chatroom... i started on IRC.

 

Amokitty

Oh thank you, Rose!!!

 

Amokitty

jeremy mentioned you want a puppy, Lia! I hope you one! :)

 

Amokitty

"get" one. Geez! this is the worst I've been in a while1

 

Lia

Actually, I already have one. A very grumpy, disgrunted, spolied one, who would not put up with a new pet. But I really love dogs. Especially dachshunds

 

xakko

i've been blurring words in my new chapter... i'm writing a scene with Dani and Amanda...

 

darkstorm5000

That sounds very interesting, the two of them interacting

 

Amokitty

My dog loves other dogs. Cats too! She gives one of our cats kisses all the time!

 

Lia

My dog cries when she's sees another dog, or walks past them without even noticing them. She a little neurotic.

 

Amokitty

I don't think it's ever been shown with Dani and Amanda together and interacting. That'll be interesting for sure!

 

Amokitty

What's her name, Lia?

 

MadR

I'm going to have to fudge canon a little on the letters. I think it's the Motherland scan you put up, Amo, that says Piotr didn't write home much....

 

xakko

i'm glad no one's caught on to my weak link yet. i was really worried

 

Lia

Angel, because she's white. My sister named her. It doesn't really fit her personality.

 

Amokitty

It also says he didn't write home much in Uncanny #109, too I think. Doesn't mean he never wrote at all though!

 

Amokitty

Lia - LOL!

 

xakko

also in 210, when showing his pictures to Illyana, i believe...

 

Lia

But for Peter, not writing home much probably means he only wrote once a day!

 

MadR

I think I'm going to do something like he writes a fair number, but terse letters because he's also 'not good with words' in canon.

 

xakko

could they be unsent letters?

 

Amokitty

Is Angel a dachshund, then?

 

Amokitty

didn't Peter allude to unsent letters, before? Was it Uncanny #210???

 

MadR

Maybe...have him struggle with finishing 'em and reveal that he's mailed very few.

 

Lia

No, she's a terrier/sheltie mix. She's really adorable, but dumb as a brick.

 

MadR

For some reason I want to flip through my Pratchett books for Captain Carrot's letters home to the mine....

 

xakko

i love captain carrot

 

Amokitty

Ha! My last dog was a Sheltie mix. Had her for 17 years, and I miss her so very much. :) Incredibly beautiful dog. but then most Shelties are.

 

MadR

"Dear Mama and Papa. Today I fought aliens and won, else I would not be here to write this letter. Then we all went to New York City and shopped at the degenerate decadent capitalist Macy's. I bought shoes.

 

Amokitty

I just spit up my Coke!!!! :D

 

Lia

LOL! That's an awesome letter, Rose!

 

Amokitty

*giggles!*

 

darkstorm5000

Sounds almost like a non-dysfunctional Borat

 

MadR

How is the irrigation system in the back forty? Did Arkady fix the truck yet? And please tell me if the lost sheep from the Buryat village has been found. See included cartoon of me and the aliens for Illyana. Your loving Piotr

 

Amokitty

Never that movie, but oh the things I've heard!!!!

 

Amokitty

I love that letter with the passion of a thousand suns! Grinning ear to ear here!

 

xakko

oh, that was awesome, Rose!

 

Amokitty

Man, I'll need a translator for the transcript! Never SAW Borat....

 

Amokitty

I suck, and I'm sorry guys.

 

xakko

you don't suck...

 

xakko

we caught your meaning

 

darkstorm5000

I haven't seen the movie either, but I've seen more than enough around the web

 

Amokitty

I couldn't type tonight if my life depended on it!

 

MadR

I haven't seen Borat either.

 

xakko

i figured it wouldn't interest me much. too negative for my tastes

 

Amokitty

YouTube is full of Borat stuff. Kazhakstan is NOT happy about this.

 

darkstorm5000

Seems like most of the punchlines are just for shock value

 

MadR

Captain Carrot from the Discworld comedy/fantasy series by Terry Pratchett...he's from a small mining community, moved to the city to be a watchman, and writes letters home that downplay the magical mayhem in the Night Watch, much more concerned with mining.

 

Amokitty

Staying focused on the stuff that REALLY matters, right? ;)

 

xakko

his approach to spelling is quite amusing tho'

 

MadR

In the EC I am playing Piotr up as a much more naive, 'stolid child of the soviet' though....because he's sixteen and he's never been out of Siberia before.

 

MadR

Vimes's line about Carrot's punctuation...pin the comma on the sentence....

 

Amokitty

So why do writers continue to write him as a dumb country bumpkin?

 

Amokitty

It's almost like they want to box Colossus in, and never let him acknowlege that he's experienced incredible things.

 

Amokitty

Oh, and matured, too! they forget about that.

 

Lia

I think because they don't know how to handle him with all the baggage he collected over the last decade, so the just rewind to when he had an easier, more solid personality to base their characterization off of.

 

MadR

yep. There's even a panel with Warren thinking that he dismissed Piotr as a hayseed when they first met...but now he thinks he's the wisest man he knows.

 

Amokitty

Which is weird when you come to think of it. Fans are always carping on Kitty not being written mature enough per Whedon.

 

xakko

CC got it right. Whedon... barely writes him. the others... i hated Ellis and his sterotypical Russian angle

 

Amokitty

Yeah, Rose. That happened in Uncanny #140. My geek is on tonight!!

 

Amokitty

Not every Russian is morose and depressing.

 

xakko

i always had the feeling that Piotr should be a Buddhist

 

Lia

Most writers forget he has a sense of humor too, just one that's a little wry.

 

Amokitty

Interesting, Xak. I would have never thought of that.

 

xakko

well, not always, 'cause i didn't know what Buddhism was about when i first came to like Colossus...

 

xakko

but the wisdom of few words, the ability to look at things clearly... it reads "Buddhist" to me

 

Amokitty

Illyana has that kind of humor, too. I somehow doubt we'll see this in New X-Men though!

 

xakko

* wants to crawl under a rock.

 

Amokitty

Xak dear, why???

 

xakko

upcoming magik arc

 

xakko

i had this idle thought the way Ian kept telling me to give the arc a chance that Yost and Kyle were directing it to appease people like you and me

 

Lia

Yeah, considering how the New X-Men writers have treated other established characters, I don't have a lot of faith in them.

 

Amokitty

Wow, we need to add Lia to the "20" list.

 

xakko

i've run into about 27 of the 20 by now

 

Lia

what's the 20 list?

 

Amokitty

Not sure if you've read the Craig Kyle interview on LiveWire World, but Kyle thinks only 20 people aren't loving his work. the nerve.

 

Lia

Hah! I think the number might be just a little bit higher than 20.

 

xakko

i think he said that there were 20 people on the internet complaining about it

 

MadR

way more than 20

 

Amokitty

He implies that his work is so good that EVERYBODY but a disgruntled few are enjoying it. It comes off as incredibly arrogant.

 

Lia

That's probably because there are only 20 people left who think his book is even worth talking about.

 

xakko

the numbers are better than Nunzio and Christina's at this stage. then again, their big "guest star" was the ghost Jeffrey Garrett, and they've had William Stryker, Nimrod, and Selene

 

Amokitty

I wish that were true, Lia. CBR has been in small wars over this. Most people seem to be in Kyle's favor but there IS a sizeable minority. Whether they want to fess up to it, or not.

 

Lia

Didn't they want to bring in Illyana, and the editors said no?

 

Amokitty

I thought that CC wanted Illyana, but was told no. Probably wrong about that, though.

 

xakko

yes... which is why they used her in the HOM issues and left an out

 

Amokitty

didn't they leave an out for Doug, too?

 

xakko

i don't remember.

 

xakko

he was back at the school, i thought

 

Lia

That's sad. Kyle and Yost are probably drinking buddies with Joey Q. It seems like that's the only way to get any power in the Marvel offices.

 

xakko

their day job is producers in the animation division

 

Amokitty

You just nailed it, Lia!!! Joey Q is surrounded by cronies!

 

xakko

so they are higher up in Marvel than a normal writer...

 

xakko

plus they see eye to eye with him over X-23

 

MadR

Didn't they create X-23 in X Men Evolution?

 

darkstorm5000

Yep

 

Amokitty

By that reasoning, shouldn’t Whedon have more control over Astonishing? Right now, it's looking like he doesn't have much.

 

Lia

X-23's concept kinda creeps me out. She's Wolverine, but with boobs, so it's ok for the fanboys to fantasize.

 

MadR

It's a shame, X Men Evo was so good, that the've vcome to this

 

MadR

And the typing makes typos at three am....

 

Amokitty

I'll accept anyone if they're written well. but she hasn't.

 

Amokitty

Now I don't feel so bad! ;)

 

xakko

her original mini wasn't too bad. NYX lost me, tho'

 

Amokitty

thanks, Rose! hee.

 

MadR

Don't suppose anyone's a Bujold fan

 

xakko

and they way she's totally taken over New X-men bothers me

 

Amokitty

Well as far as New X-Men, I don't think she's garnered my interest.

 

Amokitty

I've only read a tiny bit of her work, Rose. sorry.

 

Lia

It wouldn't have been as bad if they had just written the characters out or pushed them to the side to make room for the new team, but they killed them off so pointlessly.

 

xakko

i don't know if i've read anything by her, Rose...

 

MadR

There's a whole new take on the clone of a main character raised by enemies plot in her Vorkosigan books.....

 

xakko

Lia, they were trying to set the "dangerous" tone... which Carey is picking up, that the death of ANY mutant is a tragedy now.

 

Amokitty

That's when it becomes a respect issue, Lia. They didn't care what fans thought. Not enough to make them realize that it does harm to the fandom when writers pull stunts like that. It cause a lot of division and flaming between "sides".

 

MadR

I'd love to do something like that with the X-23 plot in fanfic someday, as an au.

 

MadR

Any hype is good hype mentality

 

xakko

but Joey Q must love that... the numbers are better, and there's no such thing as bad publicity

 

MadR

I can see these idjits congratulation each other because Captain America's death made CNm and the Colbertt Reptor

 

xakko

and apparently the two are very personable, if i could choke down the gag reflex long enough to talk to them

 

Lia

I got the dangerous tone thing, but they killed so many kids it almost became a parody. And they killed children, pretty shamelessly, while making the X-Men look like callous idiots. It just made me angry with them. I like the book before they took over.

 

Amokitty

It's all just one big publicity stunt. It's empty of any redeeming value.

 

Amokitty

Xak!!! Laughing my ass off and right onto the floor!

 

xakko

oh god, that came across badly, didn't it

 

Amokitty

Kyle wants the kids to be just as bad-ass as the regular teams. So what is the difference between them? What's the hook that gets people involved with it? They don't come off like students really.

 

Amokitty

Xak, not TOO bad. Your anger is justified. At least, I think so.

 

Amokitty

I get all the X-books but I don't really read them anymore. I still haven't read the latest Uncanny. I can't relate to the characters anymore. Even though they're mutants, people identified with them in some way. that's gone now.

 

xakko

i REALLY hope Korvus dies

 

Lia

I second that!

 

Amokitty

Third! Cause that is contrived beyond belief! The Pheonix sword is a bunch of hooey!!!

 

darkstorm5000

Not a fan of his, huh? ::huh

 

xakko

i think i dislike Brubaker on an X-book almost as much as the New X-men team

 

MadR

Guys, I hate to be the next to go, but i'm falling asleep sitting up here, so.....

 

MadR

I'm gonna call it a night. Nice chatting with y'all.

 

Amokitty

He's not bad, but the way he's been given his backstory is..... meh.

 

xakko

yeah, it's 3 am... i think i need to go too

 

xakko

g'nite rose!

 

Lia

I think it's different because all the X-Titles seem so cold now. It doesn't have that same optimism or sense of family it used to. I think what made people relate to it was that even though these characters were outcasts, they still had a place where they belonged and a reason to fight.

 

Lia

Night Rose!

 

MadR

G'nite Xak. Nite all!

 

Amokitty

You were really kind to stay up so late with us, Rose. thank you dear! :)

 

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darkstorm5000

I think it's time I called it a night too

 

Lia

Me too. I'm getting pretty sleepy.

 

xakko

i had a blast as always, so thanks again Shari!

 

xakko

(and Mark too!)

 

Amokitty

Aw, DS! I was hoping we'd get some info on your Connection story!

 

Amokitty

Thank you all so much for coming tonight! It's appreciated, my friends!

 

xakko

g'nite!

 

Lia

I was really great talking to you guys tonight! I can't wait to see all the new stories!

 

darkstorm5000

Well, I really need to start back working on it, so I can have something to talk about, I suppose

 

Amokitty

Night, Xak!!

 

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Lia

Take care, guys! Night.:)

 

Amokitty

Lia, thanks for answering my questions! :)

 

Lia left.

 

 

Amokitty

Good night!

 

darkstorm5000

Good night, Shari

 

Amokitty

DS, thank you! :) Good night, and have a nice Sunday, okay?

 

darkstorm5000

Ok, you and Mark do the same

 

Amokitty

Will do!

 

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Amokitty

This was fun! Thanks to everyone for joining in, and sharing tidbits of their current or upcoming projects for us fans. 'Til next time, everyone! Good night. :)

 

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