Transcript for KIOTR Chat  -  March 8th, 2008
Topic: Uncanny X-Men #496

Many thanks to Humbly_Here for including the Russian language links within the transcript.

 

amokitty

Good evening, everybody.  Tonight’s chat concerns some controversial information in this month’s Uncanny X-Men issue.  Many believe it spoils the ending to Giant Size Astonishing X-Men #1, but regardless, we’re discussing ALL aspects of it.  Consider this a warning for what’s ahead….

     
 

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xakko

hey there

 

amokitty

Hi there Xak! :) Happy to see you tonight!

 

xakko

back at you

 

amokitty

Is your mood over the latest Kitty news any better? Mine has improved a bit with the new stories that came out this weekend.

 

xakko

I'm... clinging to a bit of denial, I think. It was nice to get new writings tho'.

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xakko

I've been struggling with my next BoM section

 

xakko

hi Jeremy!

 

J_Harper

Hey there.

 

amokitty

Jeremy! You're here! Hi there! :)

 

J_Harper

I hope you all are well.

 

amokitty

I am! A little pissed still, but otherwise okay. ;)

 

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J_Harper

Can't blame you, but what else can you expect from Marvel these days? :(

 

MadR

Hiya.

 

amokitty

Hello Rose dear!!

 

xakko

hi Rose!

 

J_Harper

Hey Rose.

 

MadR

Let's get it over with: Uncanny 496: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

 

amokitty

Ha!! So true.

 

amokitty

Xak says he's in denial. Hee.

 

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MadR

Hi Deb!

 

xakko

heya dear!

 

deb

hi

 

amokitty

Hi Deb! Great to see to you tonight!! :)

 

J_Harper

Hello.

 

MadR

Oh, I think we're all moving to Egypt on this one. Of all the bonehead cliched moves....

 

deb

::smile

 

xakko

well, likeadeuce has a point - Brubaker writing out of character is not out of the question

 

amokitty

Oh, you saw that did you?

 

xakko

of course, I'm probably Bru's biggest detractor.

 

J_Harper

It hasn't been outright said she's dead, has it? I know all indicators are pointing to it, but it hasn't been stated?

 

amokitty

I really think that the possibility of this being a red herring is doubtful. Even if I'm wrong, Kitty is STILL out of the picture for god knows how long.

 

xakko

no, it hasn't been stated in the comics, and Mike Choi has stated that #496 is not meant to imply that definitively

 

MadR

It hasn't been outright stated, but if the subtext was any clearer...it'd be text.

 

xakko

but a breakup seems even more ridiculous

 

amokitty

I think Mike Choi was smoking something when he said that he thought Peter cried due to Kitty breaking up with him. That makes zero sense.

 

MadR

Especially with Piotr mentioning his dead parents, his dead sister, "My darling, my Katya..." and tears running down his face.

 

J_Harper

Well, I'm just wondering if it is a death -as in she killed explicitedly, on panel, poor Peter weeping over her corpse - or if it is a MYSTERIOUS DEATH, no body found... The later would be slightly more palpable. Just slightly.

 

xakko

If it turns out to be true, Bru's handling of Kurt is inexcusable

 

J_Harper

Well, remember, we're living during the reign of king Joey da Q the First, where logic and consistance and respect for continuity has no place in the world.

 

amokitty

I think Bru isn't allowed to give away too much. Which definitely answers why last issue was so WEIRD.

 

MadR

I have a very faint hope they're going to knock the ship off collision course, without Kitty being able to get off, and she's lost in space somewhere. But that's because I'm in denial.

 

amokitty

Remember, we can't give Whedon too much credit here. Kitty is more than likely dead.

 

MadR

Where the hell is Lockheed, is another question. Has he been seen in any of the Post-Breakworld comics?

 

xakko

I'd prefer something that also resolves the Lockheed mess

 

MadR

Xak: Jinx!

 

amokitty

There's been no mention of Lockheed in Messiah Complex or anything else for that matter.

 

xakko

gah, I owe Rose a beer

 

amokitty

Ha!! :)

 

J_Harper

Maybe he's flown off to be in mourning...

 

amokitty

God knows it looks like Peter is....

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xakko

hi starsinger!

 

MadR

Hiya Star!

 

starsinger

hello!

 

amokitty

Well hi there, Starsinger! Good to see you!!

 

starsinger

what's up?

 

deb

I should type more. maybe I'll get a beer out of it too

 

J_Harper

Hello.

 

amokitty

Deb! So funny. I could use one too.... ;)

 

xakko

you have a whole bottle of Capt Morgan upstairs, dear

 

starsinger

okay, what'd I miss?

 

deb

::biggrin

 

amokitty

Ooooh! Now a rum and coke sounds pretty good.

 

xakko

to quote Rose, "AARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!"

 

amokitty

Yep. We're not a bunch of happy campers, Star.

 

xakko

that some of us are on Egyptian rivers

 

amokitty

*laughs*

 

xakko

and watching out for crocodiles

 

MadR

We're pretending Uncanny 496 NEVER HAPPENED.

 

J_Harper

I'm pretty much done with Marvel. Hell, i think I'm pretty much done with comics.

 

starsinger

I'm all for that

 

MadR

brb

 

xakko

best case scenario - absolute best - is that Kitty needs time away to find herself due to lingering effects of Emma's mind**** and Lockheed's betrayal

 

starsinger

We'll just make Peter Kitty's future for them

 

xakko

works for me

 

amokitty

I really don't think it's a coincidence that Peter is drinking in a bar and grieving for the woman he loves. Brubaker is trying to say something with that, I think. Only Peter never cried in the bar for Zsaji.

 

J_Harper

Peter never really loved Zsaji, though.

 

starsinger

hey, Unquiet Dreams has definitely been keeping me happy

 

amokitty

Exactly. So when the woman he REALLY loves dies, he loses his composure in public completely.

 

xakko

Peter thought he did - nearly staying on the Breakworld. but once he was written by a competent writer...

 

amokitty

Unquiet Dreams has made this dreadful week bearable.

 

starsinger

when is that last issue due out?

 

starsinger

AXM I mean

 

amokitty

April 9th.

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starsinger

I just haven't been able to bring myself to write any Kiotr lately

 

xakko

hi Tomaka

 

starsinger

hey, tomaka

 

amokitty

Well, Hi Tomaka!!! Long time no see! :)

 

Tomaka

hola all!

 

J_Harper

Well, if Kitty's really dead, then the only good thing I can think of the situation is that Ellis won't be getting his mitts on her.

 

Tomaka

I know! It's been a while!

 

xakko

or Cornell

 

starsinger

well, we don't know yet, she could just be lost in space

 

Tomaka

I blame it on being in a bizarre time zone

 

xakko

Cornell is MUCH worse than Ellis

 

amokitty

ha, I thought that too, Jeremy. Mean of me I know but oh well!

 

J_Harper

I can't bring my self to read that excerpt Amo put up on her blog.

 

J_Harper

What Cornell wrote.

 

amokitty

Cornell is also on my shit list. I'm telling you he is OBSESSED with Kitty!

 

J_Harper

Talk about unprofessional.

 

MadR

Bak

 

Tomaka

Ah, so i take it we're discussing the potential disappearance of Kitty in the next issue?

 

xakko

that git is actually saying that Brian isn't not an alcoholic - he just likes to drink

 

starsinger

ouch

 

MadR

Cornell answering interview questions as himself and Wisdom in turns: cutesy or clinically insane?

 

starsinger

all of the above?

 

Tomaka

or totally brilliant?

 

xakko

I really don't think he "gets" Wisdom.

 

amokitty

Cornell knows that Kitty is out of the picture in 616. So WHY does this man make sure to bring her up at every damn opportunity?! He's like a dog with a bone. They're OVER. The fact that he 'cleverly' doesn't mention by name is supposed to do what...?

 

J_Harper

He's a dipshit.

 

MadR

I'd feel better if I thought it was a meta joke on Wisdom being the biggest Marty Stu in Marvel....

 

amokitty

‘Kitty's name’ - I mean.

 

Tomaka

I have no idea who Cornell is, but my opinion of him will go with the general consensus here

 

starsinger

I'm as lost as you, Tomaka

 

Tomaka

Woo! I'm not alone!

 

xakko

he's the writer of the Wisdom mini series, and will be writing "Captain Britain and MI-13"

 

xakko

which is replacing New Excalibuer

 

xakko

he also wrote for "Dr. Who"

 

amokitty

Paul Cornell is the writer of the Wisdom mini and the upcoming Capt. Britain and MI13 series. He makes sure that Pete mopes over Kitty constantly. Ugh.

 

MadR

He's the guy writing Pete Wisdom who had him refer to Kitty, what is it, 7 times now?

 

starsinger

wisdom really needs another girlfriend

 

amokitty

Wisdom needs therapy.

 

J_Harper

Wisdom has turned into a creepy stalker guy.

 

Tomaka

wonderful, everyone loves a mopey British guy

 

xakko

he's got a wife

 

xakko

whom he cheated on with another member of his team

 

starsinger

that's obviously not helping

 

amokitty

I LOVE British men. LOVE them. LOVE Brit literature. HATE Cornell's rendition of British heroes.

 

starsinger

I don't think anybody can figure him out

 

MadR

I do like the tragic drama that Kitty was his True Love, and Piotr was Kitty's...but in RL this would be bordering on stalking. What was that throwaway bit about him calling Kitty once a week?

 

amokitty

Cornell is the one who can't figure him out, Star. You KNOW Ellis is cringing when he reads this crap.

 

starsinger

okay, not making jokes about long distance phone calls here

 

xakko

I just wonder if that's why Ellis made Ultimate Pete the Leader

 

amokitty

*laughs anyway!*

 

Tomaka

Pete as a stalker....well, there are worse things he could be

 

xakko

deb is going to go get Puff her veggies

 

J_Harper

I know this may be too pat of an answer, but stalkers tend to be losers. As much as I didn't care for Wisdom, I feel that he's got too much self-respect to devolve into such behavior.

 

starsinger

me too

 

MadR

How is Princess Puffball, Xak? Recovered from the vet visit nicely?

 

starsinger

as much as I felt he wasn't right for Kitty, I didn't hate him

 

Tomaka

I never much cared for the man

 

xakko

I dunno - self-loathing hidden behind arrogance seems to be what I get from Pete

 

xakko

Puff is fine. And a pisspot. She broke containment today and snuck under the couch.

 

J_Harper

His relationship with Kitty actually doesn't bug me too much. Piotr's reaction to it does. :/

 

starsinger

and Puff is a...

 

xakko

bunny rabbit

 

J_Harper

but that's an old horse I've flogged too many times in the past.

 

starsinger

thank you

 

starsinger

I had a bee land on my badge at work and just sit there Friday

 

J_Harper

He may dislike himself, but I still don't think he'd be the type to stalk.

 

amokitty

Wisdom is interesting when written well. But Cornell has turned him into a pathetic sort of man who'll sleep around because he can't have the woman he dumped years ago. And the fact that Cornell makes fun of Colossus every chance he gets, makes HIM look like a hack.

 

Tomaka

I've had hummingbirds try to get nector out of my snorkel while swimming...

 

starsinger

that's different. I'm sorry, Tomaka, I work at the Fort Worth Zoo

 

amokitty

Agreed Jeremy. Excalibur #92 is the cause of all this stupidity.

 

Tomaka

Ah, gotcha :P

 

Tomaka

just thought we were talking about funny animal moments :P

 

J_Harper

Yes. Exactly. Wisdom may hate himself, and is a bad man, but I'd never think he was pathetic.

 

starsinger

that too

 

amokitty

Oh we talk about everything, Tomaka. And all at once too. :)

 

J_Harper

One can only hope this unprofessionalism will eventually bite Cornell in the ass.

 

starsinger

this is very true. Not mentioning major writer's block in Kiotr stories

 

MadR

The hell of it is, you could write a decent love triangle plot with Piotr, Kitty and Pete. But it has to be done perfectly or it would come off as creepy and pathetic.

 

starsinger

omg, dirty mindedness going here, what if (alternate universe going here) she married both of them!

 

Tomaka

two husbands named Peter...that could get confusing

 

MadR

Hee!

 

starsinger

could be fun though

 

J_Harper

Christ, isn't there a sex fic out there that had Kitty in a threesome with Piotr and Wisdom?

 

amokitty

I think Cornell will reap what he sows when Capt. Brit & MI-13 fails spectacularly. I predicted months ago that this series would be canceled in short order. I just know I'm right.

 

starsinger

no idea, haven't really explored adultfanfiction.net though, could be one there

 

J_Harper

Wisdom shed readers copiously as it evolved, didn't it?

 

Tomaka

Oh I'm sure there's one out there somewhere...

 

MadR

Probably is a sex fic. I'm talking about Pete Wisdom as the tragic character who gives up the woman he loves to the man she loves....because he wants her to be happy.

 

J_Harper

I thought someone in our circle here mentioned it once...

 

amokitty

I'm thinking of returning to writing my old Kiotr smut story to console myself. I need SOMETHING to get me through this, you know. ;)

 

xakko

amokitty fic?

 

J_Harper

Oh, I know Rose. I'm just reacting to Starsinger's comment about Kitty marrying the pair of 'em.

 

MadR

I'm wallowing in Unquiet Dreams to get through it.

 

amokitty

I vaguely remember something about that story. Wasn't it at Luba's site?

 

amokitty

I write stories for myself, Xak. :)

 

xakko

no fair not sharing

 

starsinger

i dunno, a lot of those stories get a little bizarre, amo

 

amokitty

Not good enough to share. It would look pretty paltry compared to all of you. Besides it's pure porn. *laughs*

 

starsinger

nothing wrong with that, amo!

 

amokitty

*laughs LOUDER!*

 

xakko

my favorite Puff picture - http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e178/xakko/?action=view&current=DSC0465220-51-38.jpg

 

starsinger

aaaawww, Puff's cute!

 

J_Harper

Is Puff still trying to muscle Deb out of being the number 1 lady in your life?

 

amokitty

Check out those mutton chops!

 

Tomaka

p\Poop, I can see the picture...

 

Tomaka

can't**

 

xakko

Puff has calmed down since her operation.

 

J_Harper

that's good to here.

 

xakko

(she still likes me best)

 

starsinger

You know, I hate leaving a story mid-stream, but Stryker's Revenge has taken a back seat to another project

 

amokitty

Yay for that. I know she was driving you and Deb up the wall for a while there. Glad she's doing better.

 

starsinger

what was the problem?

 

J_Harper

But she's not trying to bite deb, or anything like that?

 

amokitty

That happens all the time, Star. Just ask Xak! heh.

 

MadR

Stories do that some times, Star. You get stuck, or come up with something else to write.

 

starsinger

yeah, but how often is it a story that's been bouncing around since high school, please don't ask how long that's been

 

xakko

when Puff hit puberty, she seemed to harbor some rather... amorous... designs on me

 

J_Harper

Heh.

 

starsinger

wow, that was...delicate. so you got her fixed?

 

amokitty

Poor Xak. *cracks up*

 

starsinger

Meredity McKay? Oops, sorry, rerun of Atlantis

 

xakko

yes. she's been spayed. it prevents ovarian cancer in bunnies

 

Tomaka

Since I can't see the photo, what kind of animal is Puff?

 

xakko

she's a bunny rabbit.

 

Tomaka

and she was hot for you, was she?

 

MadR

McKay and Mrs Miller, Star?

 

amokitty

Writer's block is almost always temporary, Star. Have faith. Try something else for a while. Your muse needs amusement is all.

 

xakko

oh, quite. she used to court my hand.

 

starsinger

his sister giving up Rodney's real name

 

Tomaka

Can't say I've ever had the privilege of having a rabbit hit on me

 

MadR

Jeannie was such a jerk in that episode.

 

Tomaka

I had rabbits before...I wanted to make slippers out of them when they died...

 

starsinger

I am so missing sci-fi channel, still no cable

 

amokitty

Puff can such a sweetie though. I take it she's back to her normal self?

 

amokitty

Oh Star! That sucks.

 

xakko

almost, amo. a little calmer.

 

xakko

(sorry to hear that, star)

 

MadR

I've kind of given up on Stargate Atlantis....sigh. At least Marvel is just annoying and not outright offensive.

 

starsinger

I really hated it when they killed off Jacob/Selmak

 

amokitty

That was a disgusting tease with Beckett! Stargate sucks for doing that to me.

 

xakko

I dunno, some of the stuff we're being asked to swallow is pretty offensive to me. *cough* selling your marriage to the devil *cough*

 

starsinger

I don't think that any of us are going to forgive what they did to peter/mj that just, still fuming

 

amokitty

OMD. Oh, how the mighty House of Ideas has fallen.

 

Tomaka

Movie and TV writers are sort of scrapping the bottom of the barrel in terms of ideas...

 

MadR

There's some seriously skeevy racism and sexism issues. Not to mention the producers not getting that references to Teyla being 'some sweet little Island princess' are both at the same time.

 

starsinger

well, I still love Jericho

 

amokitty

True, Tomaka. All the re-makes are getting a little old....

 

xakko

has anyone caught "Eli Stone"

 

starsinger

little bit

 

amokitty

Knightrider, anybody? Geez....

 

Tomaka

I saw the Eli Stone pilot

 

starsinger

Jericho is...wow

 

MadR

Eli Stone isn't bad, little overkill on the whimsey.

 

Tomaka

ugh, I adore KITT, but I hated the movie-thing

 

MadR

Loving Jericho, Terminator: SCC.

 

Tomaka

Yes, I'm right into the Terminator

 

xakko

it felt way too much like a male Ally McBeal to me

 

Tomaka

My roommates hate it though

 

xakko

(I only ask because my co-worker knows the producer)

 

MadR

Even that though....I'm betting all the cool 'Cameron isn't a human in a robot suit' ambiguity we're seeing as fans is TPTB trying to show she's evil.

 

amokitty

The same one who knows Mark Guggenhiem, Xak?

 

Tomaka

I liked Eli Stone, but not really enough to go out of my way to watch it

 

MadR

I catch Eli Stone sometimes just because it's on after Lost.

 

starsinger

okay, the only series that I really and truly didn't like this past season was Caveman, that was not funny

 

J_Harper

I don't watch tv. :/

 

starsinger

all right, that just might tell you how much television I actually watch

 

amokitty

I watch precious little of it, myself.... :)

 

Tomaka

I like Chuck. It's probably one of my favourites

 

MadR

Total TV couch potato here. If I'm awake, the set's on.

 

Tomaka

Adam Baldwin is a sexy sexy man

 

amokitty

Yes he is!!!

 

starsinger

Hey, Indiana Jones 4 is what I'm really looking forward to!

 

MadR

Although I've been watching a lot of old show on videotape and deciding what to keep lately. Tremors, Hill Street Blues...

 

xakko

Marc Guggenheim is the producer, amo

 

Tomaka

Ironman!

 

xakko

yes, she calls Marc her brother-in-law, and keeps threatening me that he wants to meet me

 

amokitty

Oh! Gotcha, Xak. heh, heh

 

MadR

Anyone watch the new Spider-man cartoon on the CW? I saw a firefox news review of it.

 

starsinger

okay, gotta go, roomie wants on, talk to you later. Please, read my original piece and review, link is on my page on fanfiction.net. Need input bad

 

xakko

when is that on, Rose?

 

Tomaka

I didn't even know there was a new Spiderman show...

 

amokitty

And what do you tell her, Xak? That you want him to sign your new copy of Young X-men in blood? ;)

 

Tomaka

bye!

 

amokitty

Bye Star! Thanks for swinging by! :)

 

MadR

Saturday, 10 Eastern, I think. The guy behind Gargoyles is supposed to be doing it, and put Hudson and Broadway in as cameos in the first ep.

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MadR

I didn't see it, just skimmed the review.

 

Tomaka

I'm a little hesitant on the thought of a new Spiderman Show...considering the current Fantastic 4 is just...odd

 

xakko

she already got me 4 signed trades by him... I don't even know if I'll be getting Young X-men

 

xakko

Deb has announced a moritorium on X-comics in the household

 

J_Harper

Heh. Had an idea for an Gargoyles fic. First appearance of the Steel Clan. During the fight, blasts of energy come down from the sky to take out the drones. Iron Man shows up - he's pissed at Xanatos 'cause he managed to steal some Stark Tech to make the drones and his Goliath battle armor.

 

J_Harper

Had that idea a while back.

 

amokitty

Why Xak? Is she upset about Kitty?

 

xakko

yup

 

deb

you can get them i just won't read them

 

MadR

Cool crossover idea!

 

Tomaka

I loved Gargoyles back in the day

 

Tomaka

Mind you, I love just about anything remotely Star Trek related

 

MadR

Sigh. Still working on my reread of Uhura's Song....

 

J_Harper

The gargoyles would fit well into the marvel universe.

 

amokitty

I'm angry too, Deb. I'm very seriously considering whether I want to give Marvel any more of my money. But then there are plenty of Kitty and Peter appearances in the near future to consider. It's going to be a hard decision.

 

J_Harper

Hard to believe Kagen's dead. I don't think she was that old, either. Shame she just stopped writing. Sometimes a writer just runs out of ideas, or has said all he or she wanted to say.

 

xakko

yeah, Wolverine: First Class is going to be hard to pass up

 

deb

it would give spidey someone to talk to while he waited on buildings for crime

 

MadR

Buying things with Kitty and Peter in them would be voting with our wallets.

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xakko

hey there mel!

 

xakko

ltns!

 

amokitty

Mel!! so happy to see you!! Howdy!

 

J_Harper

Hello.

 

MadR

I think she got too sick to write...I heard she had lyme disease on top of the breathing difficulty that killed her.

 

melodyrider

*waves* hello!

 

Tomaka

now I'm confused, do we know for sure that Kitty isn't going to be around after BGI #1?

 

MadR

Hey Melodyrider!

 

J_Harper

Damn... All I know is that, back when I was getting Asimov's, she just disappeared. I know she sold one more story to them, but the last story I read of hers was The Nutcracker Coup.

 

amokitty

Well it certainly looks bad for Kitty right now, Tomaka. Based on Uncanny #496 it looks like Peter is mourning his dead girlfriend.

 

J_Harper

And after that, nothing.

 

MadR

Nutcracker Coup was the last thing by her I saw, too. I was always hoping for another Trek Tie-in or a sequel to Mirabile. I love Mirabile....c'est la vie....

 

Tomaka

hmmm...interesting...and very sad. I'm still hesitant though...Whedon also has surprises. It's not like him to leave so many obvious clues to her death

 

J_Harper

Mirabile is fun. I regret not picking that up, when it was available years back, 'cause I never managed to read all the stories in Asimov's. I think I read four or five of them.

 

amokitty

You're right. But the way this has been dragged out, everybody has deduced a lot of what's happened already. So trying to figure out the end is looking easy. Brubaker's handling of Peter in this issue adds to the fire.

 

J_Harper

Let's see, I remember the Return of Kangaroo Rex, the one with the bats, the one down on the farm with the first Thingamabob, and Frankenswine.

 

J_Harper

I know there was the very first story, and there was one called the Flowering Inferno, both of which I missed.

 

MadR

What drives me crazy is that there's a hint that a...very Lockheed like pet animal, come to think of it, is actually an intelligent native of the planet...and now we'll never know.

 

MadR

Loch Moose Monster.

 

J_Harper

Was that the first one?

 

MadR

Yup, that was the first one.

 

J_Harper

Okay.

 

amokitty

The big question is, WHY is Peter suddenly wanting to go home and visit his parents' graves? Why is he crying in this issue? Why are Logan and Kurt tagging along and showing concern for Peter? This looks like Kitty is deader than a doornail.

 

melodyrider

Or at least they think she is

 

MadR

And Peter lists Kitty with his parents and Illyana, as people he's lost. And the other three are dead.

 

Tomaka

maybe Kitty leaves the X-Men?

 

Tomaka

as unbelievable as that sounds...

 

J_Harper

No. I don't buy Peter acting like that if that's all too it. And I really don't see him acting like that if she dumped him, which I think is very, very unlikely. She's probably dead or lost.

 

amokitty

Heh, that's just it. It sounds farfetched that Kitty would leave the love of her life. Not after saying that she was happy when she and Peter last made love.

 

xakko

Kitty wanting to leave the X-men is VERY believable. Kitty leaving Piotr, after everything in Astonishing, is much less so

 

xakko

and, frankly, if she left the X-men, I think (based on his experiences) Peter would be happy to leave with her.

 

Tomaka

yes, I doubt he'd just let her go

 

MadR

And it's Joss Whedon: nobody gets out alive.

 

amokitty

Exactly. Now that they have a real solid relationship, it's not believable that either would voluntarily give it up. Unless of course you have a Meggan like scenario on your hands.

 

Tomaka

I adore Joss Whedon for many different reasons, but I also abhore the man for many more

 

MadR

He's good at what he does, but the man has a sack of personal cliches that he keeps returning to. And this is one of them.

 

xakko

and he can't write SCIENCE fiction

 

J_Harper

?

 

deb

this is the only joss whedon story i've read or scene. it's making me not like him if that's how it ends

 

xakko

he struggles with the science part

 

deb

oh yeah and firefly too i forgot

 

Tomaka

This is how most of his stuff ends

 

MadR

Science Fantasy rather than hard science fiction. Though I like science fantasy too.

 

Tomaka

I've learned to not get attached to his characters because odds are they'll die

 

Tomaka

too bad I liked Kitty before Joss came along

 

amokitty

Not a lot of people are crazy for what's going on in Buffy either, Deb. It's looking like Joss may make Buffy switch teams. The weirdness is getting worse.

 

MadR

He likes the contrast of a character finally being happy before having something awful happen to them.

 

deb

i saw one episode of buffy when i was home sick but i didn't know who anyone was

 

MadR

This usually means a UST couple gets together and then one of them dies.

 

amokitty

Buffy the tv series is mostly good. A lot of folks just forget about the last couple of seasons. Buffy the comic is trying my patience.

 

Tomaka

Just take Wash from Firefly/Serenity for example

 

xakko

so... any comments about Brubaker's writing of Scott/Emma?

 

MadR

Giles and Miss Calander. Xander and Anya. Wesley and Winnefred....

 

amokitty

Every time I hear Wash's name, I wanna say Poor Dead Wash, like people say Poor Dead Doug...

 

MadR

I liked the bit about Emma learning things from the background noise of telepathy. Even if the Celestial thing is causing confusion.

 

MadR

I like telepathy as a power, and I like exploring the dramatic uses of it.

 

xakko

his Emma is so Emma-lite that she's turned into Jean-lite with blonde hair and bad fashion sense

 

amokitty

I don't like Bru's Emma. She's way too much like Jean.

 

xakko

jinx

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xakko

hi DS!

 

deb

yay more beer

 

amokitty

Damn it! Now I owe Xak....

 

melodyrider

Hi there, DS!

 

MadR

Hiya Darkstorm!

 

amokitty

Darkstorm! Hey you!! How's it going?

 

darkstorm5000

Hi everybody!!! ::biggrin

 

J_Harper

Hello.

 

Tomaka

Hi!

 

darkstorm5000

Oh, I'm good.

 

amokitty

I'm beting the farm that Bru reveals so much more of everyone's thoughts on Kitty next issue. By that time Giant Size AXM will be out.

 

amokitty

What worries me is that with Messiah Complex over with, will we get to know more of anyone else's thoughts about Kitty? Storm's for instance?

 

Tomaka

Well folks, it's getting a touch late here, so i'm going to head off and get as much sleep as possible, considering we're bouncing forward an hour tonight

 

melodyrider

Good night, Tomaka!

 

Tomaka

good night all!

 

MadR

Marvel isn't good at that. Siryn not getting to react to Banshee's death

 

MadR

G'nite Tomaka

 

amokitty

Yes indeed! Everybody set your clocks forward! Goodnight Tomaka! Thank you for coming! :)

 

darkstorm5000

'Night, Tomaka!

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melodyrider

Siryn's reaction to Banshee's death is sort of a different animal. PAD's being very deliberate there

 

MadR

Maybe I'm remembering wrong. I thought it was different books and he wasn't told in time....

 

melodyrider

Sort of. He found out about it as Deadly Genesis was coming out, and made a specific request about her reaction because he was planning a story around it, but it didn't quite turn out over there the way he asked

 

MadR

Unless I'm thinking of something in DC comics. I usually try to avoid the Comics Writers....not good for my blood pressure.

 

xakko

maybe Ted Kord dying?

 

xakko

and... was it Barbara who didn't react to it?

 

amokitty

So much gets left unanswered. Or forgotten. Or outright ignored. Take Cornell ignoring Brian's alcoholism. He made little disguised digs at Claremont. What sucks is that Capt. Britians continuity will suffer for it. Why does editorial allow this? Writers do terrible things to my blood pressure, too.

 

MadR

Someone closer than Ted and Babs. Family, so having a lack of reaction really showed up...and the writer complaining they killed off the character in another book and nobody told him, that he WOULD have written a funeral scene if it made his deadline....can't remember

 

J_Harper

Because Joey da Q doesn't care. He thinks that continuity is a shackle that stifles comics and is shrinking their audience.

 

melodyrider

At least he's on his way out

 

J_Harper

? He is?

 

amokitty

he is?!!

 

xakko

Quesada's leaving? really???

 

xakko

when?

 

xakko

can we have a party?

 

xakko

will there be cake?

 

melodyrider

hehehehehe

 

amokitty

woo-hoo!!! Party!! :D

 

deb

and beer??

 

MadR

I swear if I won the lotto....ooh, Queseda's leaving?

 

amokitty

yes, there must be beer!!

 

xakko

champagne

 

deb

i'm just here for the running gag

 

amokitty

I'm just cracking up here....

 

J_Harper

I wouldn't party. Not until I know who was replacing him. The way things are going, it would probably be Bendis or Millar.

 

J_Harper

If he is leaving. Or was this a joke?

 

melodyrider

No, as I understand it, he really making his final bow sometime this year as EIC

 

xakko

Millar could conceivably be worse

 

amokitty

Oh, this is wonderful news!! Of course the damage is done.... :(

 

J_Harper

Millar would be worse. A retarded Garth Ennis. Wouldn't that be a great replacement for EIC.

 

amokitty

Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

 

melodyrider

And his replacement is Loeb, actually

 

MadR

Had to change the channel Chef At Home came on and it's too late for me to get hungry.

 

amokitty

Really? I thought he was still busy with Heroes?

 

J_Harper

Huh. Why is Quesada leaving? Is he being kicked out, or is he voluntarily stepping down.

 

J_Harper

And where did you see this?

 

amokitty

Midnight is always snack time, huh? I hear ya.

 

xakko

hrmmm.

 

xakko

dunno how I feel about that.

 

MadR

Can't watch a cooking show without that pavlovian response.

 

melodyrider

I'm not sure where it was announced. I heard it from OPF

 

amokitty

LOL. I know what you mean, Rose! Food Network has a lot to answer for too! ;)

 

amokitty

How is Oldprydefan, Mel?

 

J_Harper

Well, I don't know much about Loeb, but I think a lot of the comic book fans over at RPG.Net will be happy. One Last Day, or whatever it was called, did not fly well there.

 

melodyrider

She's good, thanks! I'll let her know you asked!

 

amokitty

It didn't fly well anywhere, I don't think.

 

MadR

Discovery Home. Chef At Home, Liscence To Grill, Cooking In Brooklyn. Never really got into Food Network. Loved Dinner Impossible and now that's been cancelled because of the chef padding his creds/

 

xakko

Ian was asking about you, Mel (before I forget)

 

amokitty

Good to hear she's well. Give her our best, Mel!

 

J_Harper

How are people doing on the writing front?

 

melodyrider

That was nice of him! How's he doing, Xak?

 

MadR

I've been plodding away on my fic.

 

amokitty

yeah, and I LIKED Robert Irvine too... That was very unfortunate. He seems like he would be smarter than that.

 

xakko

he's been busy of late. trying to stir up traffic to LWW (that isn't spammers)

 

MadR

That Maryland Rennfaire episode cracked me up.

 

xakko

I think he and Rebecca are supposed to move back to the US this summer

 

amokitty

I should probably pay LWW a visit. :)

 

MadR

Trying to deal with pig-iron knives and an oven with no temperature control.

 

xakko

as for writing - I'm totally stuck on Book of Magik right now. I can't get this one scene to flow right.

 

xakko

the NPR gag I was going for made no sense, and I may need to scrap it

 

amokitty

The Survivor episode was really good too. Talk about improvising! We know the guy can cook, so it makes no sense to make stuff up.

 

melodyrider

OPF says thanks and hello back, btw :)

 

amokitty

Lovely! Hiya Susan!! :D

 

MadR

I still really suck at trying to write anything long and plotty. Short little fluffy humor or character pieces are easier for me.

 

amokitty

And I'm just writing porn.... ;) :D

 

xakko

that you won't share

 

amokitty

Ha!! hey i'm not trying to be mean! I'm afraid you'll never think of me the same way again! LOL!!

 

xakko

hey, I couldn't write a smut scene to save my life

 

xakko

so no one put a gun to my head and tell me to write porn

 

MadR

Speaking of...ahem....Unquiet Dreams is up to Kitty and Piotr's honeymoon. We've got a great new Author there.

 

amokitty

It's a little scary, but I think sometimes I might be a little TOO good at it. what do you suppose this says about me?!! Lord....

 

J_Harper

I've written porn. Two Ranma 1/2 stories, one of which may be the best thing I've ever written for the fandom. Then there's Dreams of Fire.

 

J_Harper

Though, for the Ranma 1/2 story, I did crib the plot from Phil Foglio, so maybe he deserves some of the credit (or blame) for that one.

 

xakko

do you find yourself getting caught writing linear-ly? or are you able to jump around when you get stuck?

 

amokitty

Dreams of Fire is NOT porn. It's something FAR better. :)

 

J_Harper

I can't jump around. I must start at the beginning and plow my way to the end. Writing something piecemeal is absolutely unnatural for me. The thought of it freezes me up.

 

MadR

I tend to come up with random scenes and lines all over the place, the trouble is in knitting them together linnearly...

 

amokitty

Unquiet Dreams is getting REALLY good. I'm hoping that Author 376 shows up tonight.

 

MadR

I told Author about the chat when you announced it....dunno if Author's a him or her.

 

deb

xakko will have to answer later. puff is kissing his forhead. she wants attention. we're both looking at computers and not her

 

J_Harper

I tend to get caught in idea echo chambers, though. For example, I have a hard time trying to come up with an idea that doesn't involve one of the mythics. I have a partial idea for a Peter grieving, but my imagination wants to drag Solevey Razboynik into it, I really don't want to do that.

 

amokitty

I got a message from author 376 today. Apparently Sinister is easy for her to write. You'd think it would difficult. He/she does a fantastic job of writing Sinister as a civilized sounding monster.

 

MadR

The way it bounces from happy Kiotr fluff to Sinister being...heh, sinister is amazing. Doesn't lose momentum in the tone.

 

amokitty

Naughty Puff! No need to be jealous. We barely see your owners while YOU get to seethem all the time! You must learn to share!

 

MadR

Don't want to get stuck in a stylistic rut, eh Jeremy?

 

amokitty

But, but... I LIKE Solovey! *pouts*

 

melodyrider

Maybe Puff should join the chat too :)

 

J_Harper

yeah. Sometimes I feel sort of bad, or arrogant, using so many original characters.

 

deb

i don't know if she can type

 

J_Harper

but, as I think I"ve said, most x-villains bore me to tears.

 

amokitty

Which reminds me.... my dog has her own e-mail address now. Mark did it on a lark, but it's REAL.

 

deb

she has tried to eat my laptop

 

melodyrider

She can just bound over the keyboard ;)

 

MadR

I do things like ' wow, a 1602 Piotr and Kitty story would be cool!' and then blanch at the sheer amount of research that would take.

 

J_Harper

I like Solovey, too. I wish I gave him a bigger in Deathless.

 

J_Harper

bigger role.

 

amokitty

Your oc's are so damn good Jeremy. It's not you've shoved them down our throats or anything, you know.

 

darkstorm5000

I don't know why you'd feel like that? If you gots 'em, flaunt 'em

 

deb

there was a guy who got a credit card offer for his dog and he got the card

 

xakko

it's weird - Kit's and BoM were linear, but the HP xover is a jumble of scenelets right now

 

MadR

Nods, Jeremy's OCs are fantastic. And a lot better than some of the canon villians.

 

amokitty

Well, you can imagine how shocked I was when I got an e-mail from Molly! Mark thought it was hilarious. So last night I sent 'her' one back!

 

J_Harper

I dunno. Maybe just hearing that Mary Sues are evil and bad all the time has prejudiced me. I know that my villains aren't Mary Sues, but still, people are coming to fan fics to read about characters they know, not new characters.

 

xakko

I don't think that necessarily applies to villains, jeremy

 

MadR

I hate that idea about original characters being mary sues. I come to fanfic to read good stories.

 

xakko

but creating a compelling bad guy is as hard as creating an original protagonist

 

J_Harper

I've been toying with the idea of Kitty and Peter fighting a horde of 30 Days of Night/13 Bullets/99 Coffins style vampires.

 

amokitty

Good point, Xak. No one expects villains to compete with established heroes for fans. There's no competition there.

 

xakko

just look at the lame villains in recent X-men titles- Ord, Danger, Pandemic, Vulcan, the Children... do ANY of those really interest you?

 

amokitty

Oooooh! Vampires! I'm SO all over that! Mega cool.

 

MadR

Most of my favorite fics have a bunch of OCs joining the cast. Junior Carter-Kord in the Mulletverse. Joviana in Minion. Danila in Deathless, hee.

 

J_Harper

Not really, though I don't think Ord is so bad.

 

J_Harper

One day I'll write an original fantasy about Danila. I have it all plotted in my head.

 

amokitty

Those villains illustrate how lame and lazy the current crop of writers are. There’s nothing original in those original characters.

 

amokitty

Rose makes a great point too. Like ANY character, if written well, then that's all that matters. Nothing Mary Sue about it.

 

J_Harper

BRB.

 

xakko

I see the problem with Mary Sue-ism. It's just an overused cliched criticism

 

amokitty

Danila needs a real home. I can picture him and Illyana fighting over stuff like siblings!! :)

 

amokitty

And both characters are a bit on the dark side.

 

xakko

I've stumbled on so much HP fanfic with the American witch who becomes the fourth member of the Golden Trio after two paragraphs

 

MadR

And it's another thing about coming from big media fandoms. One pairing tends to predominate, and most of the fic is about and only them. Even if you love them, reading fifteen stories about the same two characters every day gets damned dull.

 

amokitty

Xak, are you writing more snippets or concentrating solely on BoM?

 

xakko

right now, I'm just trying to get the NPR scene right.

 

MadR

I think there's a difference between Original Characters and Self-Insertion too....I don't mind if someone wants to write a thinly disguised themself joining the characters on their adventures. I might not read it, but there's nothing wrong by definition in doing it.

 

xakko

there's a beat I want, but, like I said, it pushes credulity and I need to compensate for that or drop the scene

 

amokitty

Rose, I know you're like Don Quixote with pairings (I'm a bit like that too). :)

 

MadR

If I could find a way to bet on it I'd make a mint. The one character/pairing I love is the one nobody else on the planet wants to write. heh.

 

amokitty

I like what you're doing with the civilians so far. Engrossing stuff.

 

xakko

I was thinking about writing a scene where Kitty lays a beatdown on Dumbledore for leaving Harry with the Dursleys

 

deb

my battery is running out. I'm going to have to shut down for the night

 

deb

g'night

 

MadR

the demon calling that one woman meat. shivers.

 

amokitty

Deb it was good of you to come! Thank you. :)

 

MadR

Night Deb!

 

deb left.

 

 

melodyrider

Good night, Deb!

 

darkstorm5000

Goodnight Deb

 

J_Harper

Back.

 

xakko

i'm not entirely sure, but I think I got that from Inferno

 

amokitty

An American at Hogwarts would be shocking and very interesting. With Kitty's guts, that place would never know what hit it.

 

xakko

the idea of the demons craving human flesh, anyway

 

xakko

I'm somewhat intimidated about writing in the HP universe, especially since most of where I would be going would be outside the scope of the books

 

MadR

And a lot of what I like in fanfic is exploring the world the PTB set up but didn't use. I remember one HP story with Harry going to America and speaking to Wizarding Congress that I read a long time ago.

 

amokitty

And then Jeremy can write his story of vampires craving human blood and it's Kitty and Peter to save the day as well. These possibilities are sounding SO good.

 

amokitty

Thinking outside the canon box makes great stories.

 

xakko

i agree, i just don't want to screw it up.

 

J_Harper

:) There's a line in that story, after the attack on the New Hampshire resort Peter and Kitty are staying at, where Peter says he's never seen or fought vampires like that. Kitty thinks about it for a moment and says "What if they're mutations?" The idea disturbes both of them.

 

amokitty

On the flip side, you can also take canon and follow it like Mel is doing, but give it a good twist that no one saw coming. I love surprises. :)

 

amokitty

That idea INTRIGUES me. heh.

 

amokitty

Jeremy

 

MadR

The neat thing about fanon is that it doesn't really have any rules. If you're going outside what the PTB laid out as canon, you can make up whatever you need as long as you can justify it halfway logically.

 

J_Harper

Maybe I'll get to it someday. I haven't felt like writing for a long time, though. :(

 

amokitty

‘Jeremy's idea’. Man is the typing off tonight!

 

amokitty

We miss your writing Jeremy.

 

melodyrider

Hear hear!

 

MadR

We do miss you Jeremy, but I know you can't force it.

 

xakko

yeah... you're definitely one of the Kiotr greats

 

J_Harper

You make me blush. :)

 

amokitty

BRB.

 

xakko

speaking of Kiotr greats, did anyone hear if Kirayoshi was going to make it?

 

MadR

Kirayoshi couldn't make it due to his work schedule

 

J_Harper

That's too bad.

 

MadR

Amokitty said something about trying to work it out for our next chat.

 

MadR

Oh dear lord, it's snowing again. Anyone seen the Fenris Wolf lately?

 

xakko

I shoveled twice today. :(

 

J_Harper

Heh. Just rain out here. though we've gotten our share of snow. At least my old co-workers at Aramark will have had a good winter's sale this year.

 

MadR

I can't remember the last time we got snow this late in March. Should help the drought.

 

J_Harper

Oh, Rose. The only mistake I saw in your story, Dragon Elder - and it's only a small detail - is that the canonical monster books were called Monster Manuals. But like I said, it is but a small, niggling detail.

 

J_Harper

Every once in a while, the publishers will call one of them a Fiend Folio. TSR and WOTC like alliteration when it comes to their general critter books. :)

 

MadR

Oh, thank you! I'll change that!

 

xakko

I remember the first Monster Manual and Fiend Folio.

 

J_Harper

I think I still have copies of both floating around.

 

xakko

* feels old

 

amokitty

Did I miss anything? :)

 

xakko

I think my joints are creaking

 

MadR

The thing with writing something you know nothing about is that you don't even know what to look for to start researching.

 

MadR

And once I found The Bogatyrs Of Old Kiev ALL I could find about it was that it was the title of an article in a Dragon magazine. It just worked so well as a role-playing game for the story I decided, what the hell, I'd use it.

 

amokitty

that was a nice touch, Rose!

 

J_Harper

Makes a great name for a module. Hell, a springboard for a lot of the background material in Deathless came from GURPS: Russia. GURPS books are so well researched a lot of professional writers use 'em for source material.

 

MadR

I did a half hour of Googling 'dungeons and dragons' and reading through the hits....and then wrote the story during the commecials while watching New Amsterdam.

 

MadR

I've heard that a lot of fantasy writers use roleplaying sourcebooks, yeah.

 

xakko

no sense reinventing the wheel...

 

amokitty

Mel, I wanted to ask your opinion on Uncanny. I'm curious. Do you think it spells the worst for Kitty?

 

amokitty

On another tack, does everyone have a favorite story idea that keeps Kitty ALIVE? K's new chapter today makes me think of this.

 

xakko

that matches the events of Uncanny 496? hrmmm

 

amokitty

Yep. :)

 

melodyrider

I'd hate to make too many guesses in the middle of an arc, but my gut tells me they're mourning her loss, though I don't know for sure if it means she's actually dead

 

amokitty

I'd like to think that maybe Kitty is in a coma or some other soap opera like illness.

 

MadR

I'll have to see what Whedon actually does with his last gasp. For right now, I'm going with my Never Happened. The snippets I've been writing for Astonishing. Kitty goes off to help Lockheed out with his homeworld problems, after recovering from straining herself phasing too much on Breakworld.

 

MadR

....I have a Wild Guess on how they're going to kill her, though.

 

melodyrider

What's that, Rose?

 

MadR

Kitty's going to phase the bullet-ship THROUGH earth and the strain of it will kill her.

 

amokitty

Even if she isn't dead, the way this is coming about - She might as well be, because SOMETHING terrible has happened. and now she's in limbo or dead.

 

darkstorm5000

I've been thinking something along those lines too about Kitty and the bullet

 

MadR

Sigh, yeah. Whatever the actual ending is, we know Piotr and Kitty are not going to get the happily ever after. At least not until some other Marvel editorial staff decides to bring her back as a stunt event.

 

amokitty

But if that's true then Kitty charging alongside Peter on the Giant Size cover is very misleading.

 

melodyrider

I have my doubts, there. I don't see how she'd even know when the bullet's close enough to Earth to even try that sort of thing, and it aslo doesn't answer the question of exactly what the metal on Breakworld has been doing to her

 

xakko

well, if Brand really croaked in AX24, then it's already misleading

 

amokitty

True.

 

MadR

And we had the Emma Kissing Wolverine cover....

 

MadR

Selfless Suicide is one of Joss's cliche plots too. Buffy jumping in The Gift...Doyle and that demon-killing bomb-thing. That's what made me think of it.

 

amokitty

There's also no way anything will Lockheed will get resolved. Not in one issue, giant sized though it may be. Too many danglers!

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JHarper

Hello.

 

amokitty

Joss stated that something shocking would happen. Kitty leaving the team isn't shocking. Of course Kitty dying at at this point isn't shocking either...

 

JHarper

Had a brown out, knocked my computer out. There seems to be two of me in here, now. :)

 

amokitty

Couldn't stand being away, jeremy? ;)

 

JHarper

Heh.

 

MadR

Snort. We'll get Joss explaining what happened in dangling plotlines during one of the Dollhouse interviews.

 

amokitty

heh, heh.

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JHarper

Is that on yet? The dollhouse?

 

MadR

Not yet. Writer's strike messed it up a bit.

 

amokitty

Hi there, humbly here! Welcome!!

 

humbly_here

Hi!

 

JHarper

Hello.

 

xakko

hi humbly here!

 

MadR

Hi, Humbly!

 

amokitty

Humbly here, are you a long time Kiotr fan?

 

darkstorm5000

Hi there Humbly Here!

 

MadR

Stuff like Joss announcing that Faith's last name was Lehane how many years after Buffy was off the air....he DOES that.

 

humbly_here

Hello all! For the last five years of my life I have been dedicated to the pairing, considering my young age, it feels long, though I have so much to learn.

 

melodyrider

Hi Humbly!

 

melodyrider

*chimes in late*

 

amokitty

Well, I'll bite. How old are you, if you don't mind my asking?

 

humbly_here

I'm not supposed to give it out, I'm not even eighteen.

 

amokitty

You can giv eit out to us! but only id you want to. :) I, myself, became a Kiotr fan at 15! :D

 

amokitty

Lord, please excuse the typing! Oy.

 

xakko

I was 14 I think

 

humbly_here

I recently turned seveteen, and have loved the couple since I was twelve.

 

JHarper

Okay, NOW I feel old. ;)

 

humbly_here

Sorry, Jeremy.

 

amokitty

heh, heh. :)

 

xakko

hey, it's awesome to see a newer generation learn to love the couple

 

amokitty

It's good of you to join us, HH! :)

 

humbly_here

I have to say, this whole conversation is a bit surreal for me. I've been reading everyone's work on FF for quite some time before I was able to get up the nerve to actually join a chat.

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melodyrider

Join the club, HH. It was quite interesting for me to chat with Xak and Jeremy and everyone the first time I showed up for a chat, too :)

 

xakko

(really, jeremy and rose and melodyrider and Darkstorm are just regular folks)

 

MadR

Well, you're certainly welcome!

 

xakko

(who just happen to be great writers)

 

amokitty

Aw, no nerve is needed here. None of us bite! Personally, I'm glad you came! It's reassuring to know that the fandom is growing and attracting younger people.

 

xakko

(and the others who aren't here too)

 

JHarper

It's okay. Everything make me feel old now.

 

humbly_here

I came, primarily, to give you all a link for a few russian language-help sites.

 

amokitty

LMAO. Poor Jeremy! but think of it this way! You're getting to reach to more of your fans.

 

JHarper

yes. When I see a kid or a teenager with a comic book somewhere, it makes me feel a bit better about the hobby. I hear so much doom and gloom about how the fanbase of comics is graying, that seeing proof against it is good.

 

JHarper

True. :)

 

amokitty

Karasho, HH! Please do!

 

humbly_here

I've been steadily learning the language over the past two years and have a friend who visited Russia for five years, so I thought I might be able to help.

 

MadR

More research material! Yay!

 

JHarper

Any help is good help.

 

darkstorm5000

I'm sure it will be

 

MadR

You can tell I use Berlitz Russian For Travellers, can't you? Heh.

 

humbly_here

Great! The first link is for a podcast that I found only a couple months ago; it's quite helpful for beginners Russian. http://www.speakingruss-ru.1gb.ru/index.html

 

xakko

it beats using babel fish, rose

 

amokitty

Very interesting! I was thinking of getting Rosetta Stone to help improve my Russian, and no doubt this will be a big help too. Thank you!

 

humbly_here

The other site I primarily look to reminds me of a site Illyana might have shown Kitty had Prof. X not taught everyone the language. http://www.hello-world.com/Russian/EN_Russian.php

 

amokitty

Well you just righteously rock, you know that? :)

 

humbly_here

Haha. Well, thank you.

 

xakko

thanks much, HH

 

amokitty

I gotta ask HH. What is it that makes you a Kiotr fan?

 

darkstorm5000

And this'll keep me from having to rely on those old Russian pick-up-line websites ::tongue

 

amokitty

DS! *dies* Who ever knew...? :P

 

JHarper

Thank you.

 

darkstorm5000

That was a LONG time ago, though

 

humbly_here

I have to admit, being the young one I was, I was first brought to the world of X-men by Evo. which I now see as sad, due to the lack of depth that I believe they placed into the majority of the characters. Though, with Kitty being the main heroine of the series I took notice of her quite quickly.

 

humbly_here

I always loathed the representation of she and Lance though, so I researched her character and was brought into the true cannon universe. That, my nw friends, is when I fell in love with the couple of Kitty and Peter.

 

amokitty

Lance who?! *kids*

 

JHarper

:)

 

humbly_here

The interaction that they share is so true to life that I simply adore them.

 

amokitty

i always thought that Lance was a poor knock off of Wisdom.

 

JHarper

they click. They simply due. My only wish is that we could have seen 'em click more often, over the years.

 

xakko

*whew*... saved myself another jinx

 

amokitty

Ha!

 

JHarper

Ah well. Folks, I hate to do this, but it's going to be three here in a half hour. I'll bid you all adieu.

 

melodyrider

Have a good night, Jeremy!

 

amokitty

Crap. I keep forgetting about Daylight savings... good night Jeremy. Thank you so much for coming tonight, my friend! Be good and Stay well!

 

JHarper

Thank you. G' night all.

 

humbly_here

Well, it was great to talk with you Jeremy, goodnight!

 

MadR

Evolution was a fun introduction to the X Men...almost a sitcom version, wasn't it?

 

darkstorm5000

It was nice chatting with you, J!

 

MadR

G'nite Jeremy!

 

xakko

g'nite jeremy!

 

JHarper

G' night all! :)

 

MadR

I hate to, with a new chatter, but I should be going too.

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darkstorm5000

'nigt, J!!

 

amokitty

Aw!!!

 

xakko

sorry you have to go, Rose... g'nite!

 

MadR

Almost three, and I have a driveway to shovel tomorrow....

 

melodyrider

You have a good night, too Rose! Until next time!

 

humbly_here

Well, Mad, thanks for allowing me the surreal opportunity while it lasted.

 

amokitty

Rose, thanks for visiting! Have a nice weekend, dear! :)

 

darkstorm5000

Have a good night, Rose!!

 

MadR

Good night all. Nice to meet ya, Humbly, and thanks for the russian link!

 

MadR left.

 

 

amokitty

HH, just stop by earlier next time! We certainly hope you do!

 

humbly_here

I promise you, I will!

 

amokitty

Evolution is by its very nature, limited. Like any tv show or movie. To me, even the books are getting rather limited these days.

 

humbly_here

I think that they simply set themselves in a corner to begin with. They didn't have much room to turn and now, they're stuck there.

 

amokitty

Good point. Plus you have sponsers to answer to in a tv show. I do wonder what the difference will be in the upcoming Wolverine and the X-men cartoon will be.

 

amokitty

At least we know that Kitty and Peter will be in it!

 

darkstorm5000

Hopefully getting proper music clearances, for starters

 

amokitty

*laughs*

 

humbly_here

I haven't heard too much about it as of yet, but when I saw Peter nearly three minutes into the trailer, that was all I needed to know I would be glued to the television when it shows.

 

amokitty

So far, all we know about this new 'toon is that DoFP plays a role and so does Emma....

 

darkstorm5000

I'm definitely curious about what their roles will be on this Wolvie-led team? And with Piotr, will he 'officially' be on the team (for a change)?

 

xakko

yeah, he hasn't been part of the animated X-men since "Pryde of the X-men", aside from that one photo in Evolution

 

amokitty

Well, I didn't see Gambit, so the Acolytes might not be around. Maybe Peter is one of the good guys now? *looks hopeful* But what worries me is Kitty's age. She looks 12. If there's any truth in that.... no Kiotr. :(

 

humbly_here

Unless, of course, they want all Kete fans stating that they were right all along about peter wanting to take the jailbait.

 

xakko

ugh

 

amokitty

ARRRRGGHHHHHH!!!!! Kete is an ugly, ugly word to me right now. Cornell is a bad man and a lousy writer. I don't suppose anyone here saw Cornell and 'Wisdom' accept an award recently, did they?

 

xakko

was that a real award?

 

amokitty

Supposedly.... yes.

 

humbly_here

With the way X-universe seems to be going lately, I wouldn't put it past it being real.

 

darkstorm5000

I read it, but all I got from it were incoherent internet ramblings that didn

 

darkstorm5000

..didn't make much sense to me.

 

amokitty

yeah well, I'm TIRED of Cornell making Colossus the butt of his jokes. I'm really really tired of him having Wisdom harp about Kitty. Is there a reason that Kitty's name is never out and out mentioned when he does this? Does editorial not like it, so he trys to 'skirt' around it, but still tongue in cheek try to tie the 2 of them together in his conversations???

 

xakko

I thought he was pretty explicit in "Wisdom". regardless, it is pretty sad.

 

xakko

hold on, have to put the bunny away

 

amokitty

good night, Puff! Sweet dreams!

 

amokitty

It's really nagging at me that even though it's looking like Kitty dies, we'll have a lot of other younger Kitty's for consolation. That's the reason why I'm thinking it'll be a long, LONG frigging time before she (616 Kitty) ever returns.

 

darkstorm5000

It does seem like that kind of a set-up. Sort of like what we're seeing with the multiple, alternate MJ's in the MU to offset the 616 MJ being MIA.

 

amokitty

Excellent point, DS.

 

melodyrider

My impression with the younger Kittys in other stories is because of the role she originally represented. She's being introduced in that incarnation for the same reason Dick Grayson is *always* Robin when he's introduced anywhere but in the regular DC continuity, where he's Nightwing

 

amokitty

Yeah, but Dick's alive and well in the DCU, not just Tim and Jason.

 

xakko

except, of course, Kat in Exiles, where CC is trying to be all mysterious about her past, and her role

 

xakko

other than computer geek

 

amokitty

She is SO a bad guy! I just know it!

 

amokitty

Cat Pryde's X-men are all dead but her. Now I wonder why....

 

darkstorm5000

I haven't been keeping up with Exiles since the reboot. What new clues have been given about this mysterious Kitty's past?

 

amokitty

Nothing. She's barely been in the book to tell the truth. Looks like CC will focus on her in either issue 6 or 7. Can't remember which.

 

xakko

Cat, sorry.

 

xakko

well, it's 3 o'clock... I really gotta get to bed.

 

melodyrider

G'night, Xak!

 

xakko

nice seeing you all.

 

amokitty

Something I've been meaning to bring up.... I asked a long time ago what everyone's favorite x-artist was, but don't think I asked who your favorite writer was.  Oh dear, Xak's going1

 

humbly_here

Good night, it was great to speak with you.

 

amokitty

Good night, Xak! Take care, and thanks for coming! :)

 

darkstorm5000

'Night Xak!

 

xakko

(not Whedon! unless he manages to surprise me!)

 

xakko left.

 

 

amokitty

I'll have to ask that question when the whole gang's here, won't I?

 

melodyrider

You will!

 

amokitty

:)

 

darkstorm5000

I was really enjoying Whedon's AXM stuff, up until everyone went into outerspace. It seems like things started getting spotty after that. And now...

 

amokitty

Regardless of what happens to Kitty, we know now that it's a sure thing that Whedon's run ends on a very sour note. and yes, I think it will color my perception of his entire run. I AM grateful though for Joss bringing them back together. I just wish he'd let 'em STAY together.

 

melodyrider

Well, the Eath doesn't get blown up. Can't be *that* soure :)

 

melodyrider

Except for my spelling, that is

 

amokitty

If this Uncanny issue is anything to go by, then there's a reason that Peter is acting so devastated. Whatever it is can't be good. Peter is alone now. Kitty is in trouble. My OTP is in trouble. Look at how Jean's been dead. This isn't a good time for Kitty and Kiotr fans right now.

 

melodyrider

I'm not sure Jean's a fair benchmark for that. They have to be careful about brining her back because when they do, they have to deal with the Phoenix and the Alpha Female role she plays in the X-Men. Kitty, on the other hand, can be brought back without that level of pathos

 

amokitty

Very true. But when Jean returns (and god knows when that'll be!), I'm betting she'll be depowered. No writer other than CC seems to know how to handle her as Phoenix. What stinks is that she and Scott can't get together anytime soon. Emma seems to have a huge following these days. Still can't believe SHE'S in the cartoon and not Jean.

 

darkstorm5000

Seems like a way of them getting to avoid the Phoenix-issue here as well

 

melodyrider

Depowering her would be an excellent idea when they bring her back. If they choose to do that, however, popular demand will instantly be taken up to give her those powers back. At this point Jean and Phoenix are effectively synonymous

 

amokitty

Exactly.

 

darkstorm5000

Well, I think I'm going to call it a night also

 

amokitty

So, who wants to bet that Peter will hook up with Callisto/Nereel/Somebody New in just a few months? If past experience is anythig to go on... ugh.

 

humbly_here

Goodnight, darkstorm, thanks for letting me absorb some of your knowledge!

 

melodyrider

Good night, DS!

 

amokitty

DS, I'm so glad you came! Thank you, my friend!

 

darkstorm5000

I don't know how much I let loose, but you're more than welcome to it

 

darkstorm5000

Thanks! I'm glad, as always, to have the opportunity to be around such a diverse and interesting group of people. Have a good night and good rest of the weekend!!

 

amokitty

good night! :)

 

humbly_here

G'night!

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melodyrider

I'm not expecting anybody to do that with Peter. I'd be very surprised if something like that happened

 

amokitty

So, HH. It sounds like you've read most of the writers who are/were here tonight?

 

humbly_here

I would oficially boycott the show should that happen. Oh, yes, faithfully.

 

amokitty

I guess I'm just down on Marvel, Mel. I'm expecting the worst now... I also fear that Kitty won't be mentioned after she's gone. Messiah Complex came and went without a WORD on Kitty. I wonder if it's going to get addressed at this point.

 

amokitty

Do you enjoy fanfic, HH?

 

humbly_here

Depending on who is writing, yes, I will be able to find it very enjoyable.

 

melodyrider

I'm sure it was no accident she wasn't mentioned, but considering the type of story MC was, I'm not sure I can think of any scenes that would have made sense to slip a mention of her in that would make sense, or a scene they could afford to remove in order to address the issue

 

 

amokitty

It seems as though there's been an information blackout on Kitty, so it's easy for me to jump to conclusions. Now that we have an idea of what Peter is going through, I DO wonder if Wisdom will make a note of Kitty being gone. There was no reaction from Kitty when the world thought Wisdom was dead. It'll be weird seeing the X-Men go on without her.

 

amokitty

Heh, now I'm just rambling.... as a fan, this situation kinda sucks. I wish i could be more articulate about it.

 

humbly_here

I try to keep my hopes up with the recognition that Peter, as well as the rest of the X-men, displayed no where near the ammount of emotion I believe they would had their love, surogate sister and daughter passed away.

 

amokitty

Have you read Uncanny X-Men #496, HH?

 

humbly_here

Partially. I had to leave before I could finish the issue, but from what I've gathered, there wasn't enough emotion poured into their characters if they were grieving the loss of her. ...Obviously, I really want Joss to give a good ending to his run.

 

amokitty

Well, in the issue Peter was crying over Kitty. Something I feel is significant. I think it means something terrible has happened. I want Joss to end on a high note, too. Badly, in fact. I'm interested in your opinion of Whedon's portrayal of Kitty and Peter. What was good and bad for you with Joss' writing?

 

amokitty

Mel, I'm curious of your 2 cents, too. What is good as well as bad for you with Whedon's run?

 

melodyrider

The run its;ef or just the way he wrote Kitty?

 

amokitty

Whedon's portrayal of Kitty and Peter.

 

melodyrider

I think it's been fantastic, overall. It's been great to see the wayPeter has made it clear her needs are important to him and the respect he's expressed for her feelings

 

humbly_here

Personally, I loved Joss, if only for bringing them back together; by doing such, he earned my respect. However, this constant turmoil of whether or not the two would truly end up together had me wishing that I knew him personally so I could tell him to stop making me worry with every issue put out. The only problem I truly had with his writing was that I felt he made Peter seem too much of the "Poor little Russian Farm boy" that he has truly grown from. The majority of the time, however, I simply loved watching Kitty and Peter fall in love with one another once again.

 

melodyrider

I also think the drama between them during Torn and resolved in Unbreakable was handled in a way that was engaging without being gratuitious, and I'll be very surprised if Joss doesn't manage to include a scene where Kitty tells Peter she loves him at some point in GSAXM

 

amokitty

I absolutely agree Mel. I'll be shocked if Whedon doesn't have those two declaring their love for one another before doing something awful to Kitty. This is one of those things that has always been implied and even admitted to with others. But strangely, they've never admitted it on-panel to one another. He made sure to give them a real relationship and righting a wrong in the process, so it makes sense for him to right this wrong as well. At least before he pulls the rug out from under them that is.... ;)

 

amokitty

And HH! I share your frustration and turmoil with wondering when the axe was going to fall with every issue! I liked that Joss gave Peter back his sense of humor, but I would've loved something a little more in-depth with his character. I'm glad that Kitty got her moments though. Joss has a handle on her like nobody's business, aside from Claremont himself.

 

amokitty

Do you write fanfiction, HH?

 

humbly_here

Oh no.

 

humbly_here

I'll leave that department to the professional righters, such as yourselves.

 

humbly_here

*writers

 

humbly_here

I have a lot to learn before I jump into all that FF has to offer.

 

amokitty

heh, heh. Not me! But I must agree with you that level of writing that comes from the writers who visit here are on a par with the best professionals out there! :)

 

humbly_here

I'd say, in all honesty, they're superior to the majority of employees at Marvel if only for the fact of knowing how to handle not only continuity of a character, but the depth that they deserve to hold within their person.

 

amokitty

Beautifully said! You sure you're not a writer? ;)

 

humbly_here

Haha. No, not in fanfiction, anyway. ::smile

 

amokitty

May I ask if you're an American? You have a poetic way of speaking that makes me wonder if another language is your mother tongue. English can be a very blunt sort of language, and your choice of wording is very descriptive and articulate.

 

humbly_here

No, I've been born and raised in the West-Coast. I am often asked that very question, though.

 

amokitty

You're very intelligent and mature for your age then. :) And, you're west coast like Melodyrider and me! Cool.

 

humbly_here

Well, thank you! It's very cool, indeed.

 

humbly_here

::biggrin

 

amokitty

Melodyrider has written a novel as well as fanfiction. You mentioned that you haven't written fanfiction, but do you write for any other genre? Poetry, or short stories, perhaps?

 

humbly_here

I often write poetry, though it is only read aloud when a specific occasion calls for it, such as a funeral, graduation, or birthday party (in which the guest of honor has requested one).

 

amokitty

Ah! I knew there something there!

 

amokitty

There WAS something there, I mean....

 

amokitty

I'm so glad you found us and came by! :)

 

amokitty

If you have any requests for specific issues, HH, let me know. I'll be sure to post them here.

 

humbly_here

I feel completely juvinille in admitting this, but I've been with you all for quite some time...nearly two years now, to tell the truth.

 

amokitty

Well then, I'm very glad that you've decided to not lurk a minute longer! You probably know us a lot better than we know you if you've been reading the transcripts. So now you'll have to let us get to know YOU. :)

 

humbly_here

Haha, that's probably true. Alright then, I'm an open book...hopefully. I pretty much follow the rules and my mother prefers if I don't give out specfics to those who I haven't met outside of the world wide web.

 

amokitty

Understood (and I completely agree). We don't get TOO personal around here, but in future don't hesitate to tell all concerning your likes and dislikes in fandom! If something gladdens or upsets you, vent your voice here if you wish. It's always great meeting more Kiotr fans!

 

humbly_here

Well, I will say that I dislike slash, particularly when dealing with Kitty or Peter. I don't take care if it was published, Peter's time of being gay is taken away from my mind. He belongs with Kitty and only Kitty....Also, Zsaji is a weak point for me that could have me rambling for hours at how much I despise her exsitence.

 

amokitty

Oh, you will be SO at home here. We could probably bitch all day on the stupidity of Secret Wars! LOL.

 

humbly_here

HAHA! That's wonderful to hear!

 

amokitty

Do you have most of Kitty and/or Peter's appearances?

 

humbly_here

Truthfully, no. I have a surogate father, though, who collects every comic book which Marvel is currently printing and has them sent to his house the moment the nearest comic-book store has them in their possesion. He has deemed me his "Pryde" and therefore, whenever I spend even the slightest bit of time at his house, he has the comics ready for me.

 

humbly_here

In that sense, I suppose, you could say, "Yes."

 

amokitty

ha!

 

amokitty

I was telling Rose just today that I thought a lot of younger fans have a harder time of it because it's so costly to read K&P's entire history together. It's one of the reasons I have this site. That's cool that your hobby has adult support. :) My grandma encouraged mine.

 

humbly_here

Yes, it's extremely helpful. Two other friends only help the cause by purchasing me a few issues every now and then. Though neither are primarily Kiotr shippers, they encourage me in my delight.

 

amokitty

Have you been to the Kiotr comm?

 

humbly_here

Oh yes, many times.

 

amokitty

Awesome. You should join up. Just asking you to consider it. It's always good to have another opinion there. :)

 

humbly_here

It's truly amazing. It helps me catch up on so much about my favorite couple if I've let something go under the radar. I'll definitely think about joining. After all, I've been reading it for long enough.

 

amokitty

Fair enough! :)

 

humbly_here

If you don't mind my asking, how long have you been reading K/P?

 

amokitty

Heh, heh. almost Twenty five years.... *sigh…*

 

humbly_here

Wow...That's so awesome!

 

melodyrider

About nineteen years for me

 

humbly_here

You both astound me.

 

amokitty

My collection is one of my many prides and joy. And boy, do I relate with what Jeremy was saying earlier. I feel OLD. I was a girl when I first got into it. Tonight I find out that the both Mel and me have been fans for longer than you've been alive.... Feeling your age there, Mel? LOL.

 

melodyrider

Only because my birthday's coming up :)

 

amokitty

Oh that's right! Near or on St. Paddy's day, right?

 

melodyrider

Very near!

 

melodyrider

The day before :)

 

humbly_here

You have no reason to feel old! It's more of importance that you should feel on your shoulders. The way I see it is similar to that of a strict Chineese house-hold; those who are elders are only considered more wise with each passing year.

 

humbly_here

Wow, that's very soon. Happy pre-Birthday, melodyrider!

 

melodyrider

Thank you, Humbly!

 

amokitty

hear, hear!! Happy EARLY Birthday, Mel! I hope we get to hear your voice again for your birthday! :)

 

amokitty

We are wise in the Tao of Kiotr!!! :D

 

humbly_here

Oh yes, very much so. The young one bows before your royalties.

 

amokitty

*cracks up*

 

humbly_here

::biggrin

 

amokitty

Yep, you're gonna fit in just fine here!

 

humbly_here

That's quite a relief to hear. I had even doubted coming on tonight.

 

amokitty

I hope we don't come off as intimidating in the transcripts!

 

humbly_here

Oh not at all! It's simply immaturity on my own part mixed with the knowledge you all hold on this subject.

 

amokitty

Sounds like you know quite a bit yourself.

 

humbly_here

Not nearly as much as I would like to. I often forget the number of various issues or, worse yet, confuse them with others, confusing those around me as well.

 

amokitty

Pfft. I do that, too! In my case you can only read so much before things get jumbled.

 

amokitty

I have so much stuff it gets confusing after a while....

 

melodyrider

That comes with time, though. When you continue to come back to favorite issues, and see certain things in a deeper light, a familiarity with the whole tends to come with it

 

humbly_here

I'm dyslexic, so everything gets jumbled just about as soon as my eyes get to it. ::happy

 

amokitty

Then it's like Mel said. You read the issue more than once, and come away from it each time with something new. These things tend to better stick with you from each subsequent reading.

 

amokitty

The numbers thing though. I totally relate. Any issue after Uncanny #250 or #275 and I have to put my thinking cap on.

 

humbly_here

Well, Melodyrider, since you are also wise in the Tao of Kiotr I trust your words to come to pass.

 

amokitty

Agreed.

 

amokitty

have either of you read the latest Buffy issue?

 

melodyrider

I did, yes

 

melodyrider

I'm quite intrigued with the surprise villain

 

humbly_here

I haven't been able to reach it yet. But please, don't be afraid to spoil it for me! I'd love to hear about it now.

 

amokitty

The shocking thing for me was Buffy sleeping with her subordinate. Satsu. I was convinced that Buffy only liked men. Seeing her in bed with Satsu.... didn't make sense to me.

 

humbly_here

..She what? How-How did this happen? Was it just a witch to a panel or was it obviously leading to this point and I was completely oblivious? (Please, forgive my outburst, but I thought the same as you, amokitty.)

 

humbly_here

*switch

 

amokitty

And yeah, seeing Xander say "How's it going... Master", that was unexpected!

 

amokitty

HH, I didn't see a lot leading to this, no. Satsu and Buffy have been working closely together, but this seemed to come out of left field. Seeing Xander walk in on them in bed was priceless though!

 

humbly_here

Wow...I suppose if I were to completely miss this issue it would an understatement to say that I missed quite a bit. I'll have to get my hands on it as soon as possible.

 

amokitty

Kirayoshi sounded pleased about it (and I thought he might! :D) He says it's a step up from some of the guys she's slept with! ;)

 

humbly_here

Sad, yet very true.

 

melodyrider

I think a case for that much could definately be made

 

amokitty

Can't argue with that!

 

amokitty

You haven't mentioned when you'll post another chapter to Adventures of Kitty Pryde, Mel. Are you waiting for Astonishing to end first?

 

melodyrider

I was at first, but now I just don't quite have the impulse. Which is a shame because I have the next two arcs plotted out to fill the story up to issue 25

 

melodyrider

I'm hoping that when I have some more free time to devote to writing I'll manage to attack the next issue and that will get my momentum going again

 

humbly_here

Melodyrider you have to continue to update! I love the story and fanfiction simply won't be the same without it continuing.

 

amokitty

Is it the thought that Kitty could likely die, that possibly takes some of the enjoyment from writing it? Or am I barking up the wrong tree? (and I tend to do that a lot, actually).

 

melodyrider

Thank you HH! I certainly will continue it. I can promise that much at least

 

humbly_here

Thank you!

 

melodyrider

Kitty's ultimate fate has played a major role in my desire to continue the story, I can't deny that

 

amokitty

Well thank goodness for that! It would suck immeasurably if we fans were deprived of fantastic fanfic Kitty as well as 616 Kitty!

 

amokitty

I'm serious, Mel. Fanfic is the thing that will keep us all going.

 

melodyrider

Definately. We can all use more good fanfic *nods*

 

amokitty

There is precious little good fanfic as it is. You must do your part. Besides.... your fans are going on withdrawal. ;)

 

melodyrider

Ouch, the guilt! :) I am letting it linger too long, aren't I?

 

humbly_here

WAY too long.

 

amokitty

Weeeellll. Maybe just a bit. But no need to pack your bags! No guilt trip here!

 

melodyrider

Would it help if I mentioned Illyana plays a major role in the next arc?

 

amokitty

OMFG. Yes!!!!

 

amokitty

*happiness*

 

humbly_here

You had me just about jump out of my chair with happiness.

 

melodyrider

hehehehehehe Thank you again!

 

amokitty

Now that is just uber cool, Mel. It's NICE to have something to actually look forward to!

 

melodyrider

Well, I hope everyone likes the way I do it without contradicting what they've done with her so far *nods*

 

melodyrider

After all, her return this Summer is one of the things I'll greatly looking forward to in the comics

 

amokitty

What they've done with her lately is a joke, and you're worried?!!

 

humbly_here

Too true.

 

melodyrider

Good point :)

 

melodyrider

One jinx narrowly avoided >.>

 

amokitty

LOL!

 

humbly_here

Haha.

 

amokitty

Kirayoshi. I must owe that man a MILLION cokes.....

 

amokitty

Everybody and his brother types faster than me you see. :) I'm ALWAYS jinxed.

 

humbly_here

Ah, that would make sense then.

 

amokitty

Mel, are you planning to add more of Lockheed in your story? And if so, will we see him in spy-mode, as it were?

 

melodyrider

Hmmm. Good question. I don't have any specific plans for him at the moment, though I expect I will slip in little hints now and then. The second part of the Parent-Teacher Day story is probably the most overt about his role as a spy as I'm expecting to get, at least until I catch up to the start of "Torn"

 

melodyrider

It's hard to believe all these stories I'm writing basically take place between that arc and "Dangerous"

 

amokitty

And it's kind of silly too. Everyone has had to write it like that. Endangered Species, WW Hulk, all the Quest ofr Magic stuff.... EVERYTHING has had to happen before Torn. But as Xak has mentioned, not all of it works.

 

melodyrider

No, and that's truly unfortunate. If Astonishing had been handled more in line with the other titles, this entire epic really should have lasted only 18 issues and would have been done two years ago

 

humbly_here

I'm sorry to say, but I have to wake up early today, so I best be off to receive a fewhours of sleep. Good night to the both of you; I hope that you have a wonderful conversation!

 

amokitty

Humbly, thank you for deciding to join us! Take care okay? Hope to see you at the next chat, as well as at the Kiotr comm! good night! :)

 

humbly_here

G'night!

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melodyrider

Actually I'd probably best be off myself. It was nice chatting with everyone tonight!

 

amokitty

Yeah, Daylight Savings is going to make it difficult to sleep normally. It's 1:30. 2:30 really. heh, heh... :)

 

melodyrider

We'll adjust, though. We always do *nods*

 

amokitty

Mel, I'm so glad you came! Thanks for the hints on your upcoming story. It's always great to have you here!

 

melodyrider

No problem, Amo! Thanks for being such a wonderful host, as always!

 

amokitty

Pshaw! ;)

 

amokitty

Goodnight, Mel! :)

 

melodyrider

Good night, Amo!

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amokitty

 

This was an interesting night! Opinions seem to be somewhat divided on whether our beloved Kitty lives or dies. In less than a month we'll find out for certain, and the sparks will undoubtedly fly at our next Chat (so don't miss it! come one, come all!  That means you too, Kirayoshi ;) ). Wish we could've discussed more on Book of Magik as well as Unquiet Dreams, Auld Lang Syne, Essential Colossus, and Stryker’s Revenge. Not enough time in the night folks, sorry! But I'd like to thank Xakko, J Harper, Madripoor Rose, Deb, Starsinger, Tomaka, Melodyrider, Darkstorm5000, and Humbly_Here, for joining in tonight and giving us all some food for thought after this troubling Uncanny issue. Next month, we'll have a get together that could be celebratory relief.... or a possible wake...  See you next time, everyone! Good night!

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